Heyman: Biogenesis investigation likely to result in suspensions

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Via Jon Heyman: MLB investigators are convinced there will be at least some suspensions handed down in the wake of their investigation into the South Florida performance-enhancing drug hub Biogenesis. League officials believe they could announce the suspensions before the appeals process begins even though the Joint Drug Agreement says otherwise.

The lack of failed tests means MLB will build their case around “non-analytical positives” and require a ton of corroborating evidence. Former Biogenesis chief Anthony Bosch recently agreed to cooperate with the investigation in exchange for a variety of things, but not before allegedly trying to extort a six-figure payout from Alex Rodriguez. The league also met with primary whistle-blower Porter Fischer on three occasions according to Tim Elfrink. MLB is looking to suspend upwards of 20 players, but the appeals process will take time regardless of when the announcement is made.

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  • Kramerica Industries

    Yeah, yeah.

    Fuck you, Anthony Bosch.

  • mitch

    Why do i get the feeling that the suspensions will be handed out right around the time Arod is set to return?

    • A.D.

      Yeah, they really need to hurry up and deal them out already, want to get the A-Rod suspension going while he is rehabbing

    • trr

      Doesn’t matter, with all the appeals wxpect this to stretch into 2014

  • Gonzo

    This story keeps getting wilder by the day.

  • Pat D

    ESPN’s story today about that Fischer guy sure was interesting. Seriously, go read it and you’ll see just how desperate and pathetic MLB has been with this whole thing.

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      That’s the way business is conducted if you’re serious about weeding out cheats. You have to do unsavory things with unsavory people since pretty much everyone involved is somewhat of a criminal.

      The same people who say MLB is on a desperate witch hunt often were the same ones who criticize MLB for turning a blind eye to the PED situtation in the 90s.

      • Pat D

        And?

        That’s kind of the whole point. MLB allowed the situation to get out of hand in the first place, so the fact they’re resorting to such methods to punish people is pretty fucking ridiculous.

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          What would be pretty fucking ridiculous would be if MLB just brushed this under the rug and continued to let Arod and Braun juice up.

          If you had a son playing college or minor league ball and he couldn’t compete with the juiced guys unless he did it too, you’d be singing a different tune. Last thing the world needs is for MLB to turn into cycling where you have no chance unless you cheat

        • radnom

          That’s kind of the whole point. MLB allowed the situation to get out of hand in the first place, so the fact they’re resorting to such methods to punish people is pretty fucking ridiculous.

          You seriously blame “the league” for Arod and Braun being involved with this PED super clinic with the past few years?
          PEDs are common in every sport, nothing could have prevented it. The time for crucifying is over. There is no one to blame for PED useage in 2013 MLB other than the cheaters themselves. And every time one gets caught its a good thing.

    • Coolerking101

      If you find that disturbing, don’t read anything about the CIA, FBI, US Attorney or the criminal justice system in general. Par for the course.

      • Pat D

        I don’t find it “disturbing.”

        And last time I checked MLB isn’t the federal government.

        • DaveJohnson2346

          Guess, we know whom Pat D voted for a few months ago… Thanks for imposing the fixed “re-election” of the tyrant.

          Nothing more disturbing than reading O zombies like Pat D applaud the endless civil rights violations of the Dear Leader & his IRS mafia.

          • WhittakerWalt

            OMG. Get lost with your dumb politics shit. Go comment on Yahoo.

          • WhittakerWalt

            But since you brought it up, I guess you just lurved the massive civil rights violations that were the hallmark of the Bush presidency. Or do you only care now that we have a brother in the White House?
            Don’t bother answering.

  • Hassey

    I hope Wells gets suspended

    • Gonzo

      Ok, I laughed.

    • SDB

      Is MLB testing for performance deflating drugs?

  • Bill

    So Arod flew Bosch out to Detroit in the middle of last years playoffs for some, ahem, “help”

    I don’t really care about PEDs but Arod is a lying, cheating scumbag of epic proportions…

    However, he is OUR scumbag.. and im rooting for him to come back and mash, though he’ll need the juice for that im sure

    • DaveJohnson2346

      Finally, an honest RAB reader who supports A-Rod. He is a proven lying and cheating scumbag who shames our franchise with each passing day.

      However!!! He is the best option possible at third base and because of his mighty league average righty bat we welcome him home no matter what.

      Damn you evil Selig!!! Why do you go after proven liars and immoral individuals. Leave poor victims like Mr. Rodriguez & Mr. Braun alone!!!

  • Paul D

    Crazy question… let’s say A-rod get suspended, and lets say its for 100 games (both events may not be probable but are certainly within the realm of possibility). Does that mean he is one suspension away from a lifetime ban? if that happens, are the yankees off the hook? Seeing as this is the second time he has been caught, i would actually put those odds at greater than zero.

    • nyyankfan_7

      Or better yet, if that is the case would it be wise for someone to slip some PED’s into ARod’s coffee every day?

    • Coolerking101

      The answer is yes…and it’s also why there is a VERY low probability that MLB actually succeeds in claiming A-Rod committed multiple offenses from this one situation. No judge or mediator would look at MLB’s reading of the CBA and agree such a reading is in line with the intent of the parties. That being said, I’m all for putting the screws to A-Rod and company.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    ESPN reporting that Fischer said Bosch met Arod in Detroit during the ALCS.

    I wonder if Arod needed help hitting or performing for the blonde in the stands he was trying to pick up in between innings.

  • EndlessJose

    MLB wants AROD bad because he lied to them back in 2009.He will get a 100 game ban but it’s a matter if he wins his appeal.Also if he’s cousin was also involved than tha could be bad.

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      Whatever Arod gets will be well earned.

      First time around, I’ll buy the excuse that he made a mistake, that everyone was doing it and MLB and all baseball front offices were turning a blind eye to the situation.

      This time around, he’s no victim. He knew what the penalties were, he knew he’d be crucified if he was caught again after his apology. He did this to himself.

      He’s similar in some ways to Terrell Owens, Alan Iverson and Chad Johnson. When you’re an elite player, people will put up with all the BS that goes along with that greatness. Once you become average however, no one has any use for you whatsoever and that’s where I think many fans and the front office (if they could get out from under his hideous contract) are at this time.

      • DaveJohnson2346

        IETC Infinity!!

        Amen, someone with a sense of morals and standards on this site.

  • NYinTX

    What are the luxury tax implications of suspensions? Does any suspension reduce the average annual contract value for tax purposes?

  • bradfromcleveland

    How exactly was Bosch supposed to help A-rod during the LCS? That’s not how PED’s work. Was Bosch going to give him a booster shot? Was that going to help Arod’s swing? Was it going to help his timing somehow? Was he going to not swing and miss after his “treatment”?

    The whole story this morning was suspect and Fischer is suspect….at best.

    • NYinTX

      C’mon, stick with the narrative. Don’t you know that PEDs turn you into Superman instantly?

      • DaveJohnson2346

        they did for Melky.

        • NYinTX

          They didn’t work instantly for Melky. That’s not how cycling on steroids works.

          • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

            You’re still under the assumption that steroids and HGH are the same thing.

            Welcome to 2013. Cycling is a steroids term. And NO, many current PEDs do not require months of use to take efffect.

            • NYinTX

              I thought Melky got busted for something anabolic like stanozolol not HGH. And yes, I do live in 2013 and am aware how PEDs work.

    • jsbrendog

      anthony boesch’s snake oil, guaranteed to help you hit hr and doubles off the wall

      *not guaranteed for anything.

      ** totally guaranteed!!

  • Coolerking101

    Let’s be clear, this is as much a publicity stunt as it is an actual attempt to go after wrongdoers. Of course MLB is going to TRY to suspend people. MLB’s whole plan is to make a lot of noise and sound big and tough. At the end of the day, however, the only thing MLB will be able to touch are the reputations of bold faced liars like A-Rod and Braun. It seems highly unlikely that most of the suspensions are going to stick b/c the drug provisions of the CBA were not drafted with a situation like this in mind.

    • jsbrendog

      mlb’s approach makes me wonder if their ultimate goal isn’t just to sully the names and reps of these players to try and shift the culture in the sport. i guess what i mean is even if theyre not successful in suspensions they will be successful in dragging all their names through the mud and creating a hugely public negative connotation and hoping to build on and use that to make it even more of a deterrent to using/getting caught?

      \overthink’d

      • radnom

        Their ultimate goal couldn’t be more clear. If they don’t start enforcing the rule, it won’t be followed. Busting up PED superclinics is a proven way to get convictions in U.S. courts, and the burden of proof for MLB suspensions is much less (putting it lightly). They know these guys cheated.

  • Bo Knows

    PED’s aren’t like Popeye’s spinach, one hit is not going to make you superman. It takes cycles to reap the benefits of it in addition to training (steroids). If Arod was using HGH to heal, it takes weeks again to see benefits.

    • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

      Incorrect. Read up before you preach.

  • pat

    Personally, I’m happy Arod was trying to roid up again. At least he cares.

    • jsbrendog

      slow clap.

      • Reuben Sierra’s Chains

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