Sherman: Yankees did not make an offer to Yasiel Puig

Yankees drop fifth straight; Angels win 6-2
MRI shows inflammation in Teixeira's wrist

Via Joel Sherman: The Yankees did not make a contract offer to Cuban outfielder Yasiel Puig during his free agency last summer. Like many other teams, they simply hadn’t seen enough of him to go all-in. The Dodgers signed him to a seven-year, $42M contract after one workout.

Puig, 22, has gone 20-for-44 (252 wRC+) with four homers and several stellar defensive plays during his two weeks in the big leagues. The Dodgers reportedly outbid the next highest offer by as much as $30M. For what it’s worth, Sherman hears a pair of Yankees scouts filed reports calling Puig an “impact player” soon after seeing him in the minors late last year. New York has become very conservative when it comes to Major League caliber international free agents, but Los Angeles did blow everyone out of the water. This wasn’t exactly a Jose Contreras-esque photo finish.

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  • trr

    Of course we ‘d love to have Puig, but hindsight is always 20/20; I don’t think we can really crucify the F/O on this one

    • LawStudent

      I’ll just continue to be disappointed about Darvish.

      • JohnnyC

        Yu go ahead and do that.

        • first name only male – Retire 21

          I see what Yu did there.

          • Pat D

            It’s Yu!

            • The Doctor

              It had to be Yu.

              • Paco Dooley

                Hah! Yu guys crack me up.

                • Dave M

                  F U all!!

                  Kidding :-)

    • Pat D

      Sure we can.

      As always, Cashman failed.

      :)

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        You can make a joke about it but he did fail.

        • OldYanksFan

          Did the other 28 GMs also fail?
          Or just Cashman?

          • The Real Me

            Just Cashman. He should have known what the other 28 GM’s didn’t. He’s paid more. That’s always the differentiater.

          • Duh Injuries

            Hahaha The Real Me zinged you.

            Here’s another zing:

            WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THE OTHER 28 GMS?

            That said, Puig is an idiot to lock himself up for seven years at $6M a year because what if he has a great year this year then posts 25 or more HR, 90 or more RBI, and at least .280/.350/.450/.800 a year the next six years? No new/reworked contract for you or escape from it if you don’t have an opt-out clause. I’d consider that contract a red flag for why does this guy want SEVEN years of security and only $6M a year? He wants to be in control longer than a typical farmhand. Fuckin’ David Adams will be a free agent before him.

            If I was a 25-year old international free agent, I’d ask for a year and $15M, this way I make say $8M after taxes. I live on $3M (by 75 years = $400K a year age 25-100), grow $2M, buy a house for $2M (or two houses for a mil each), and set up a $1M trust for my unborn two children (college, first cars and starter houses, IRAs.) If I have a great year, I could ask for at least four years (so I’m signed through age 30) and $15M a year / $60M total (since I made $15M in my rookie year.) I’m guaranteed 4 years at $15M a year for $60M total on my great rookie season. If I blow, I have to figure I’ll make at least $7.5M or half what I made in my rookie season the sophomore effort. If I’m great that year, I can still get a minimum 4 years x $15M = $60M.

            Puig is gonna kick himself for taking $6M a year for 7 years if he posts .300/.370/.530/.900 with 30 HR and 100 RBI in 2014.

            • Duh Injuries

              *controlled.

              The Dodgers fucked up. If this guy sucks ass that’s a seven-year $6M a year mini-albatross.

              And is this guy over twice as good as Yohannes Cespedes considering Yohannes took only three years? Probably not.

          • D$1184

            If they scouted him and knew he had potential and had made him an offer and were simply out-bid, I wouldn’t say he failed. The fact that he didn’t even make an offer–fail.

          • ed

            look at the kid..he is bigger than bonds and he is only 22…the kids on juice

        • Pat D

          Someone had to keep that Cashman failed meme alive.

    • Laz

      $42M isn’t chump change either. And 44 ab isn’t very much, we still don’t know what he will do long term.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        True but it might have been a risk worth taking.

  • The Real Me

    Tough to make an appropriate bid if you haven’t scouted someone much. That said, 7/42 is a lot of money. He’s playing great now, but let’s see if he can keep it up. Sure seems like a good deal for the Dodgers at the moment, though.

    • OldYanksFan

      7/$42? What about the posting fee which was at least $30m? Lets say it was $40m. So that’s 7/$82m, almost $12m AAV. He may turn out to be worth it, but there’s some risk there.

      And even if the Yanks did bid, without seeing much of him, there’s no way they outbid the Dodgers.

      • kenthadley

        No posting fee for this guy.

      • Paco Dooley

        Huh? Posting fee? He’s Cuban, not Japanese.

  • John Cocktosen

    Meanwhile they had seen plenty of Youklis and his declining skills but gave him 12.5 million like it was a stick of gum.

    • JohnnyC

      I’m sure you would have given Kevin Maas $12.5 million 2 weeks after he debuted. Because you’re a swell judge of talent.

      • John Cocktosen

        That makes no sense at all.

  • JohnnyC

    Cespedes is an “impact” player. Second time around the league he’s slashing: .236 .301 .476 .777 (114 OPS+). Let’s give it more than 2 weeks.

    • The Real Me

      Yeah, I agree. While a 114 OPS+ isn’t terrible (certainly better than what the Yankees are putting out in the corner OF spots right now), let’s see how he looks after another year of the contract and the years remaining after that as well.

      Still, if he stays away from injuries, you could do worse than Cespedes at, what $9m/season?

    • Kosmo

      What does Cespedes have to do with Puig ? Puig is 22 and is more than likely going to stay in the show. A 5-tool player for 6 million per until the age of 27. If all goes well I´d say the Dodgers got a steal. If not then OK at least they gambled. NY gambled on the likes of Ichiro, Wells, Hafner. That´s close to 30 million tied up for 1 and 2 year deals.

      • Laz

        But there are tons of 5 tool players around the league.

      • Duh Injuries

        Wells $11.5M this year + $2.4M next = $13.9M for 2013-14.

        Ichiro $6.5M this year + $6.5M next – $13M for 2013-14.

        Youkilis $12M for 2013 only.

        $38.9M for three hasbeens, yet the Yanks wouldn’t give:

        – $17M for 2013-14 Russell Martin ($8.5M a year, a $1M raise from 2012.) Figure Stewart is still re-signed as the backup catcher for his paltry $515K for Martin/Stewart (as is) and Cervelli doesn’t get hurt since he’d be in AAA, which means if Martin got hurt when Cervelli did, the catcher from then on would be Cervelli/Stewart, still an upgrade over Stewart/Romine.

        – $16M for 2013-14 Melky Cabrera ($8M a year.) Melky in LF means a two-thirds homegrown outfield with Boesch in RF, no Ichiro or Wells. The outfield would’ve been Cabrera/Gardner/Granderson left to right with the corner outfielders being able to play CF decently if needed.) Spare me “Who’d have been the fourth outfielder?” Ok, Juan Rivera or Matt Diaz for $2M, or Melky Mesa, or Zolio Almonte.

        – $6M for a year of Mark Reynolds at 3B. Hafner could still be the DH. If Reynolds got hurt, Adams takes over 3B, or Nix could since Martin and Cabrera would make up for the lack of a bat. If Hafner got hurt, slide Reynolds to DH/backup 3B and call up Adams for 3B or again, start Nix at 3B.

        $39M total, $900K less than the cost of Ichiro, Wells, and Youkilis.

        If they kept Ramiro Pena, he’d have been the SS to begin 2013. Nunez could’ve further developed in AAA playijng every day at SS.

        AWFUL offseason job by Cashman who should be fired along with Girardi right after the game the 2013 Yanks are eliminated from the postseason, if they are eliminated. I’d fire them if they lost the wildcard game in extra innings and either didn’t pitch Mo or had him pitch only two inning instead of I’d say three innings (you lose him for Games 1 and 2 but hey, win one game where you don’t need a closer and get three outs in the ninth for the save in the other, potential 2014 Yankees closer D-Rob.)

        • Duh Injuries

          *Cabrera/Gardner/Granderson after Grandy returns, and that could be the 2014 Yankees outfield if Grandy took a year and $10M base with all three outfielders in their walk year which means the Yanks could completely remake their outfield for 2015 if they so chose.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Lol a 114 OPS+ is basically Granderson so I don’t know what this is about.

      • FIPster Doofus

        Yeah, really. Since when is 114 bad production?

        • Paco Dooley

          Especially given what he is getting paid – a lot for a guy with no track record, but not a lot by MLB standards for freeagent players.

  • Ron

    Hey don’t forget we signed that impact AAA starter Igawa for practically nothing. He was the SWB all time wins leader so money well spent.

  • VOIII

    Why does F/O get a pass on this? Is it not their job to leave no stone unturned? To not even make an offer is unacceptable. Yu Darvish, Cespedes, Solar, Aroldis Chapman, Puig are just a few of the big name IFAs that were passed on. Add this to the weakness in their first round draft selections and not signing Gerrit Cole this team is in for a nuclear winter… This is the richest most powerful organization in major league sports and the biggest responsibilty BC has is TALENT ACQUISITION! he has done a terrible job on this front since GMS has passed. George made many mistakes with overspending on stars and not focusing on the farm, but it was always at the very least entertaining. To go completely in the opposite direction is insane. George turned 10 million dollars into over a billion dollars and now this organization is trying to reverse course and give it all back. This F/O has let the team age without replacements and is on course for many seasons of losing baseball. While we can’t blame the injuries on BC we can fault him for the current state of the farm and the numerous missed opportunities. It is time for a real Baseball Man to take the reigns… Where art thou Gene Michael?

    • Dalek Jeter

      If by just a few, you mean all of the big name IFA of the last 5 years, sure.

    • Kosmo

      I´d add Ryu into the mix of players NY passed on. NY should have thoroughly scouted Puig. Incompetence.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        No one thoroughly scouted Puig. There was no chance. Scouts aren’t allowed in Cuba and he did one workout after defecting.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Excuses, if the Yankees were for real they’d find a way into Cuba.

          • jjyank

            As we speak, Cashman is launching operation “Bay of Yanks”.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Which will launch a new generation of Cuban Sox fans.

              • jjyank

                Which will in turn develop into the Boston Missile Crisis.

                • Pat D

                  Shit! We’re right out of Kennedys.

            • Strat

              Bay of Puigs?

          • Kosmo

            like you can´t send a Latin American scout on the payroll into Cuba ?

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              From Sherman’s article: “However, Cuba does not allow major league scouts onto the island…”

              • Kosmo

                I doubt anyone working for the Cuban state dept. is going to run a series of background checks to see if you´re a latin American scout working for an MLB team or just on vacation catching a few Cuban baseball games.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  As the resident Cuban, yes, they would.

                  • Dave M

                    Yeah, they would need fake ID’s and a really good cover story. Like they’re making a science fiction movie called Argo :-)

                • jjyank

                  We don’t know that. If it were so easy, I think some teams would have tried that.

                  Also from the article “I contacted executives from 10 teams beyond the Dodgers, and each said their organization declined to sign Puig based on some combination of 1) too little information and too little time to gain more; 2) refusal to pay big dollars based just on workouts; 3) background checks that suggested Puig had a poor makeup; and 4) concerns that his body had thickened some already while not playing for a year.”

                  I’m not saying the Yankees shouldn’t have made an offer, but their far from the only team that wasn’t able to scout him properly.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  It’s also besides the point. Baseball scouting activities shouldn’t need to break laws of other countries, however back-asswards those countries might be.

                  Baseball is still seen as a strong place of pride in Cuba. I’m guessing doing something like this right under their noses would not be taken well.

                  • Dalek Jeter

                    Plus you have to recognize Cuban citizens aren’t legally allowed to just leave the country, especially for destinations such as the US.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                  Do you really think no team has ever tried that before?

                • Dalek Jeter

                  You drastically underestimate the parinoia in communist fascist dictatorial/military run countries.

                • Pat D

                  I mean, really. The only time an American was ever allowed to scout a Cuban player was when Big Stein found out that Costanza was a Communist and somehow cut a deal with Fidel, who was happy to know there was a Communist working for the Yankees.

                  • Kosmo

                    it netted NY El Duque. Good work Costanza !

    • trr

      Basically, VOIII, I’d say you’re looking at MLB 2013 through an outdated perspective . The NYY can no longer dominate the sport through megabucks alone. Sure, they should be major players on the intl. scene, and your point about the team aging out is totally valid. But a return to the GMS years and MO is unrealistic .
      You’d like the team to be “entertaining “? I lived through all the Steinbrenner years and believe me, it is a thin line between entertaining and embarrassing. My vision for this team is a responsible forward thinking organization that acts like what it is – the unquestioned flagship franchise for the entire sport. That includes sucking sometimes as the team transitions. Transitions require abandoning past practices that have failed or become outmoded. So there is some pain involved. To use a somewhat strained analogy , it can be like rehab when you’re injured. You’ve gotta stay the course for it to be effective.

      ….but Gene Michael? You serious ? All due respect to the man for all his contributions to our team , buthisday has passed. Long passed….

      • VOIII

        TRR, When I mentioned Stick Michael I did not mean reinstating him in the real sense… He is out to pasture I am sure. But having a real baseball man would be a big help. I have been watching this team since 1974 and am well aware of GMS’s faults and the embarrasments. I am also aware of the late 70s teams and how much fun they were to watch… the 80s although void of any championships were always fun. Even though we had to put up with that group of jerks in Shea stadium, the Yankees had some awesome talent. I would agree on staying the course if this team had one. This is a rudderless ship right now… Are they rebuilding? no… transitioning? to what??? reloading? certainly not… This team and it’s fans are in for a long drought. The current CBA was designed to undo the Yankees dominance… it will succeed beyond Selig’s wildest expectations and whether he realizes it or not it will hurt baseball as a whole… Baseball needs a super villian or super hero depending on your perspective.

        • trr

          You’ve hit on the central question – transitioning to whar? The current Business Plan seems to positioning the whole operation as a massive money making organization. I know the score, (no pun intended), all pro sports are a business . They make money or they don’t survive. But lately it’s been beyond the pale with this team – the new stadium, the contracts given to over the hill ‘stars’, the obsequious TV deal all in the name of vacuuming every last nickel out of the fan’s pockets, using the teams storied history as a distraction from all the shenanigans. VO, I’m all in favor of putting the best BASEBALL people in charge. They should be calling the shots, not the businessmen. Do that, and with this team’s location and fan base, they ‘ll never have to worry about $$$

          • VO III

            So basically… we are on the same page. I agree with evrything you just posted.

            • trr

              Yah, pretty much. Here’s what : I’ d hate to see the team turn into what the Knicks and Rangers were several years ago: a collection of big names assembled to put fans in the seats, with predictably poor results on the playing floor

    • TomH

      You offer many of the reasons why it is possible to think of the Yankees as being in organizational decline. In addition to the failures you mention we could include as well the “austerity” that probably underlies some of them (e.g., failures to go hard for international’s).

      There is also the possibility that the Yankees’ scouting itself, as an art, is problematic. They can have (as I’ve read they do) an army of statisticians at work: won’t mean a thing if their scouts can’t tell who has IT and who does NOT. That talent is almost certainly a gift of the gods. A GM has to be able to recognize the talent-spotters who possess that gift.

      On this matter, then, of Cashman, I’m conflicted. He has often seemed pretty impressive, especially in gathering up people like Ibanez, Chavez, and others. However, the farm system itself remains unimpressive, far below that condition to which all teams might well aspire, the St. Louis system.

      As for Hal (who cares about the other guy, the one who watches the ponies?), his comments have that disembodied, unearthly quality of Chauncey Gardiner’s, in Being There. If fans often got apoplectic over George’s antics, they at least saw someone who had brains and forcefulness of personal being.

      It’s not just that I knew I would hate to have to compete against him on anything: I suspect most fans would have dreaded it, as much as probably most rival owners did. As for Hal, if he’s not going to be as volatile as his father, it’s clear by now that he’s also not going to make anyone forget his father either.

      On the present state of the team, of course, it’s very bad, but, still, much of this is owing to losing: 2 third basemen, 2 shortstops, a first baseman, a center fielder, a catcher, etc. This is to say that organizational decline is not quite the cause of this year’s woes. It certainly played some part (Swisher, Martin, other failures to improve over the winter), but the real disasters are injury related.

      Organizational decline itself will probably be most clearly apparent next season. It’s about 405 AD now. The barbarians will really start crossing the Rhine and raiding the Yankee Empire next year.

      • trr

        ….and the Dark Ages followed. Let’s hope not, Tom.

        • TomH

          Yep!

  • jjyank

    They should have made an offer, but it’s doubtful that it would have made a difference anyway. 7/42 is an awful lot to give to someone so unproven. And it seems that the Dodgers were the only team to really go all in anyway.

    That said, I’d love to see the Yankees be more aggressive with IFAs.

    • Dalek Jeter

      6m a year really isn’t that much, especially for a team like the Yankees. I’m not saying they should have signed him after one workout, but the money isn’t that big of a risk. The reward is more than worth that risk IMO. (Then again it’s not my money)

      • jjyank

        In a vacuum when we’re talking about a baseball player, no, it’s not a lot of money. But I kind of think of it like giving your first round draft pick (who you’ve scouted more than Puig) $42 mil, which is kind of insane to me. Now maybe Puig is more talented than that hypothetical first rounder, but he was roughly the same age and probably a greater unknown at the time of the signing. Just seems like a lot, and apparently most teams agreed, since it appears the next offer was ~$30 mil less.

        But again, it’s not my money, and I would love to see the Yankees be more aggressive here. I’m just saying that I don’t fault them for not topping $42 mil. Would have been nice to know they made a decent offer, though.

        • Pat D

          Puig fits inside a vaccum?

  • Gonzo

    I’m just curious what the Dodgers saw that other teams didn’t in that one workout. I mean, that’s one hell of an offer. Weren’t reports out of that workout that Puig was out of shape?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      He was during the Arizona Fall League, no idea if he was at the time of the workout.

      • Gonzo

        Yeah, I’m not sure if I’m getting the two times confused but I thought he was out of shape for both maybe.

    • jjyank

      It appears the Dodgers were right (so far), but I kinda think it has more to do with the new ownership’s “spend all teh moneyz!” strategy than it does with them seeing something nobody else did.

      Maybe some of both.

    • Shittyshittybangbang

      Makes you wonder whether lo doyers might’ve had “friends” vacationing in the Caribbean. Maybe even Cuba. No, no, my apologies, we all know that could never happen. But 30mm more than the next guy …, hmmm !

  • yesnetworklaurentheassclown

    Felt something sticky under my shoe took and look and found next years catcher. While I opened the garbage I came across our right fielder next year. Get this! While I was in the basement I came acroos another player wait just wait till you see the Yankees first basemen next year! Well I gotta run lotta of stuff to be found the the garbage!

  • Robinson Tilapia

    If “decisions made in hindsight” we’re a criteria for hire, we’d be able to staff the front offices of all thirty teams with blog commenters.

    Yasiel Puig is a superstar after a few weeks, but David Adams is a failure after a month and a half.

  • Nathan

    What is the deal with the Yankees and int’l signings lately. Are they gunshy since the whole Igawa ordeal?

    For years I thought the Yankees were going to go all-in for Darvish and maybe take a chance at Cespedes. I was blown away that they didn’t even bid on Darvish.

    Since they don’t require picks, I would have thought the Yankees would prefer to sign int’l than type-A FAs.

    • Kosmo

      you would think…

    • Pat D

      It pretty much looks that way, doesn’t it?

    • jjyank

      I thought they did bid on Darvish, just not in the neighborhood of Texas’ bid. Am I misremembering?

      But yes, I would like to see them be more aggressive there, as I have stated above.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I think they’re gun shy after Igawa too. I mean, it’s a little understandable, the only player who is even close to the unmitigated disaster that Igawa was is Kazuo Matsui and even he wound up being a 4.5 fwar player for his career.

      • Kosmo

        I don´t agree. Yanks did not scout Igawa or at least not diligently. Igawa has publicly stated that after he signed he met with the Yankee FO and they asked him ´´what kind of pitches he threw“. NY blew the pooch on Igawa.

        • Dalek Jeter

          I’m not saying they didn’t screw the pooch on Igawa, I’m actually saying quite the opposite. They absolutely screwed the pooch. I’m just saying that the fact that they screwed the pooch has made them be more (and way too) frugal with INT FA’s. I was just saying that Igawa was a disaster of epic proportions so it is sort of understandable.

          • Kosmo

            OK then yes I agree.

      • OldYanksFan

        How about Dice-K?
        He cost the Sox $106m for a career 9.2 bWAR over 6 years.
        And he was the best pitcher Japan ever produced (at the time).
        And Iggy had more K’s then Dice-K in 2 years.

        Also, the Contraras deal didn’t work out that well either.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Dice-K had some serviecable years with the Sox:

          2007: 15-12 W-L, 204 IP, 8.84 K/9, 3.52 BB/9, 4.40 ERA, 4.23 FIP

          2008: 18-3 W-L, 167 IP, 8.27 K/9, 5.05 BB/9, 2.90 ERA, 4.03 FIP

          2010: 9-6 W-L, 153 IP, 7.79 K/9, 4.33 BB/9, 4.69 ERA, 4.05 FIP

          He wasn’t worth the money the Sox spent on him, no doubt, but that’s 3 more at least league average season from Dice-K that the Sox got than the Yankees got from Iggy.

  • Russ

    I have no idea where this team will be 2 or 3 years from now , although it’s not looking good right now . The next few years should be very interesting ..

  • Evan3457

    After El Duque, the Yanks signed about 5 more Cuban players, and none of them panned out, Mustelier pending. Wasted money. So now, Cashman has to convince Hal a player is worth the money he wants to bid on the guy. Couldn’t do that with Puig.

    Darvish? Same thing after the Igawa failure.

  • EndlessJose

    It’s surpising the yankees haven’t gone crazy in the international players.There best young players are international ones not the crappy draft ones they have.

  • B the Cashman

    Where were would you guys rank our local scouts, international scouts,player development people, and strength and conditioning people among the other 29 clubs?

  • stuart a

    before we fit him for his HOF jacket let’s give him 50 games.

    again the same fans whining of not signing these guys are begging for the Yanks to sign Cano and will be absent in year 3 when Cano stinks….

    • Kosmo

      actually I think NY should be way more agressive on the international FA market. I´m also not begging for NY to resign Cano to anything over 5 years and I might add I´d rather NY look at landing a good 2B prospect via trade. For example Wong or Lindsay.

    • Fernando

      What do you mean “before”? Everybody already inducted him into the HOF based on two weeks.

      Seriously, let’s see him go around the league again and how pitchers adjust to him. The mention of Kevin Maas is appropriate. He started out like gangbusters and was nowhere near HOF material. And didn’t Willie Mays go 0 for 20 in his first action?

      You never know. Basing decisions on limited knowledge is risky and that’s why the Yankees (and most ofthe other teams) shied away from Puig.

  • I Collect Brett Gardner Cards

    Seriously guys, how much longer do the yankees ‘tryout’ brignac?

    when he drops below .100?

    • The Real Me

      Got any viable alternatives? Long or short term that they can realistically get?

      • Mikhel

        Walter Ibarra was not bad at AA, at AAA his numbers fell but he has only played in 6 games (too bad Gil Velázquez played poorly, I really have liked what I’ve seen of him in winter Mexican league).

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    Darvish, Ryu, Cespedes, Viciedo, Puig, Soler, Iwamura, Chapman, Aoki all doing pretty well in MLB or the minors (Soler).

    Considering the changes to the draft not being able to pay overslot and signing caps on young international players, it’s mind boggling how the Yankees have completely turned their back to these kinds of player when all it costs is money, no draft picks or prospects, to obtain.

    • The Real Me

      I largely agree with this. They did pass up on several opportunities to throw “just money” at some international players that may or may not have panned out. Unfortunately the new regime seems to (especially at that time) finding itself. They’re obviously not the “all in, win at all costs” type of ownership the team had under GMS. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it seems they still haven’t figured out who they are. I’m not yet convinced they’re penny-pinching money-sucking types either. Seems they want a competitive team while maximizing profits. That’s very hard to pull off. I hope they figure it out, because every year they make the playoffs is an opportunity to win the WS.

      Remember, sometimes the best teams over the regular season don’t win the WS. (See: Mariners, Seattle, 2001)

      • Mikhel

        To me it seems they are interested in having a bad season, a-la-Pirates, utilizing mostly garbage disposed by other teams, so when the time is right, they can clean the house and the fan base will be happy. That’s what they did in the 1990s before their massive success in the middle years of that decade.

        They’ve forgotten how the fans abandoned them and their ratings fell off a cliff.

        The only difference is back then they had an ancient starting rotation, but the hitters they promoted from the minors were basically the same unidimensional players they have been promoting.

  • Adam

    Cashman was probably hoping Puig was lying about his age and was really 37 years old so that way he could offer him a one-year deal for the veteran’s minimum.

    • Mikhel

      I doub’t that Cashman didn’t have info of the Cuban League where Puig played, it is broadcasted in various countries, even in the US; Puig began to play in 2007 or 2008, and at least out of the US his name was very well known as a young up and coming talent, though he’s getting better every year.

  • The Doctor

    Can’t really blame them on this one, but their new attitude toward big IFAs as a whole is really starting to bother me. Yes, you will get crap outs like Igawa, but you’ll win in spite of them. Recently the big names all seem to be having success. If you don’t take the risk of guys performing poorly, you’ll miss out on potential superstars every time.

    • Paco Dooley

      I agree 100% Igawa seems to have put them off of signing high end IFA talent, but clearly it has been a mistake (and I think Solar will also show them to be wrong on him eventually)

  • Mikhel

    The Yanks were one of the teams that did not attend to Puig’s showcase last year in Mexico, the Dodgers were the more prominent in attendance.

    Puig showed a lot ot talent, but what most present scouts agreed on: he is still too “raw” in some aspects, has a hard throw, good defense, good eye, power, but is too volatile.

    He then went on to play in Puerto Rico and had an overall good winter season.

    Rumours were they were in fact present, but… well, only they know.

  • dan genovese

    and 189 next year…nuff said