Jun
15

Yankees drop fifth straight; Angels win 6-2

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Source: FanGraphs

We’ve reached the point where the Yankees look so washed up and non-competitive that all you can do is laugh. The losing streak reached five games on Saturday — they’ve also lost 13 of their last 20 games and are ensured of a losing road trip, not that it really matters — and as an added bonus, Mark Teixeira suffered an “aggravated right wrist” and will return to New York to get checked out by the team doctor on Sunday. Sure, why not? Let’s recap the 6-2 loss:

  • Cy Hanson: Is anyone really surprised the Yankees made Tommy Hanson, he of the 4.12 ERA (5.68 FIP), look like a frontline starter on Saturday? Of course not. He struck out a season-high eight and faced the minimum three batters in four of his six full innings. The Yankees scored their only two runs in the third, when Jayson Nix followed Brett Gardner‘s run-scoring triple with a run-scoring single. That’s all. They only had three other runners in scoring position in the entire game, and one got thrown out trying to steal third. For the fourth straight game and fifth time in the last six games, the Bombers scored no more than two runs.
  • Plops: The pitching staff has carried the Yankees for the first two months of the season, but David Phelps became the third starter to allow at least four runs during the five-game losing streak on Saturday. Those four runs came on nine hits and two walks in six innings, making this one of his worst starts of the year. That’s a testament to how good he’s been, really. Phelps wasn’t bad but he wasn’t particularly sharp either, just one of those imperfect days. It happens. Unfortunately, that means a loss these days. Don’t count on the offense bailing anyone out.
  • Leftovers: Shockingly, the murder’s row of Thomas Neal, Reid Brignac, and Chris Stewart couldn’t get Ichiro Suzuki home from third with no outs in the seventh … in other surprising news, intentionally walking the bases loaded with no outs (!) in the seventh backfired when Shawn Kelley walked in a run … Ichiro went 2-for-4 with two stolen bases and was the only real bright spot for New York. He also made two stellar sliding catches in right. It was vintage Ichiro! for a night … Gardner, Nix, and Stewart all had one hit apeice and that was it. No other Yankees had hits.

MLB.com has the box score and video highlights, FanGraphs some other stats, and ESPN the updated standings. The Red Sox beat the Orioles and the Rays won, so the Yankees are three back of Boston, one back of Baltimore, and one up on Tampa. They’re five up on the Blue Jays. This nightmare ten-game West Coast swing ends on Sunday, when CC Sabathia gets the ball against Jered Weaver.

Categories : Game Stories
  • Dalek Jeter

    My computer decided to update right there in the middle of the 8th inning, so I’ll just say this here.

    Greg, you’re reasons for not pinch hitting cannot be serious. You have to be joking.

    Because a guy might get hurt? Because the team scored more the next inning? Because a guy with a history of greater success than the guy due up is cold (but probably is still hitting better than the guy due up on the season) Come on man.

    • The Real Greg

      The team scoring more next inning is not a reason for not pinch hitting. It probably would have made the move moot.

      So Wells PH and gets the run in. Yankees have tied the game

      With a tie game, I don’t know who comes in the seventh. Kelley did and got burnt.

    • The Real Greg

      And if Wells fails, you’re stuck with having to hit Hafner in the 5 hole with the game tied.

      Now if that was the lead run, I think he would have done it.

      • The Real Greg

        Correction the team would be behind.

        Now that I think about it, that’s probably why he didn’t do it.

        The game would have been only tied and you weaken your offense for the probability of extras.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      You have to be joking. “The guy might get hurt” was an actual excuse given?

      I guess it goes with the “Greg” persona to pretend to be afraid of your own shadow. Whatever. It’s all an act anyway.

      • forensic

        It’s amazing stuff. You should go check out the ‘debates’ on this near the end of the game thread. It was even more Gregish than normal Greg.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Maybe I’ll leave that until morning, or if I’m having a self-loathing moment.

      • http://RAB I remember the CBS years!

        I remember the Steinbrenner sons years! (GS at whatever capacity was still around in 2009) I was a bit disappointed in the comment of Ken Singleton in yesterdays broadcast. When Michael Kay finally got on the team for always swinging at the first pitch (As Lorenz and Curry said on the postgame) Mr Singleton, (who I feel is the best we have) said that it’s because the pitchers throw so many first pitch strikes, they don’t want to get behind in the count. HMMM. Maybe they’re just concerned about the time the game takes, speed it up for Michael, but, I think that the count would be in their favor if the Yankee batters would only learn the strike zone, maybe draw a walk, instead of only one with 14 K’s. Or find a team they could play that swing at the horrendous pitches Cano, Hafner, Gardner, and Vernon…the KING OF SWING punch out on. I’m just saying.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Yeah.

    Hey, can we liven up this comments section by talking about other random game thread tidbits from 2011? That’s a lot more fun than talking about the current developments, that’s for sure.

    • forensic

      heh, can’t disagree with that.

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Turn out the lights…
    The party is over…
    They say…
    Good things must end…

    Turn out the lights…
    The party’s over…
    Tomorrow, we’ll start the same old thing again.

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Silver Linings: high draft pics next year.

    • Pat D

      Pics of whom? Kate Upton?

      • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

        Jennifer Lawrence

        • Pat D

          Will accept.

          So long as she’s not in Hunger Games attire.

      • The Real Me

        All the girls that received gift baskets from Jeter?

        • MannyGeee

          So much Veterans Presents GIFs

  • I’mI’mVernon4U

    The amount of time it takes for the recap to be up must be inversely proportional to Mike’s frustration. Can’t say I blame him. The sooner I take my mind off the team lately, the better.

    • vicki

      and every loss yields lower marginal (per-recap) pollyanna returns. not to get all standard deviation on y’all.

      • Jimmy

        First ever use of both “standard deviation” and “y’all” in a single sentence.

    • Bavarian Yankee

      tbh I’d rather see more objective thoughts, all the whining is getting pretty silly. We aren’t 12 year old kids anymore, most of us at least.

      • MannyGeee

        Blame ARod

        • MannyGeee

          Reply fail… This was going a little lower… My bad

          • Bavarian Yankee

            well, actually you can use “blame A-Rod” in pretty much every conversation, you’re never wrong with that :D

  • ExitCashman

    Cashman mulls options to boost the Yankee offense:

    Bonuses for pitchers who give up less than 2 runs/9 innings.
    Pry Fat Elvis from the Rangers for top prospects.
    Talk Nick Johnson out of retirement.
    Encourage Ichiro to steal home next time.

    More deep thoughts later.

    • Chris

      I’m surprised you forgot javier vasquez

      • vicki

        johnny damon!

  • dkidd

    not giving up

    not with two wild cards

    not with it being mo’s last year

    not with…

    fuck it, i give up

  • forensic

    Meredith on the postgame about Tex: “I know he’s hasn’t been hitting that he’s capable of, but he was starting to get going…”

    Does she even bother to watch any games and think before her terrible questions?

    • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

      Meh.

      I’ve seen her in person. She’s got a smokin hawt body, with a gorgeous tan. They didn’t hire her because she’s Nate Silver.

      • forensic

        I still don’t get that opinion of her either, but to each their own.

        • http://Riveravenueblues Marty

          Meredith seems a bit “fleshy” to me, in other words in 10 years or less, fat.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Regression.to.the.mean.

    • vicki

      fraid so.

    • Ryan

      Time to drink.

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Penny wise, pound foolish.

    When ratings fail to meet expectations, advertisers get rebates.

    With ratings down 40%, that’s a lot of give-backs. With they way they’re flailing, ratings will collapse further.

    And certainly next year, advertisers won’t pay top dollar.

    This is what happens when you try to play it too cleaver by half.

  • flamingo

    What a week :/

    • trr

      What a weak :/

  • El Johnny D

    Oh god. It’s getting to the point for me, where they’re doing so bad, I want to see them continue to do bad.

    Like, I get disappointed when a Yankee breaks up the no-hitter/perfect game in the 4th or 5th inning.

    • Chris

      Been there for a week

  • BigBlueAL

    I fear Thursday’s loss to the A’s was nowhere near rock bottom for this team.

  • Shittyshittybangbang

    Easy there mike, slow down with the snarky-ness and or criticism. Lest we unfurl the wrath of the immenintly, and prodigiously cranially superior huber humanoids ! Yeah, it’s you whom I direct my ire towards PAT D., key holder of the Internet and everything Yankees ! We’ve been loyal as long and, in many cases, a lot longer than you. Please don’t tell me or anyone else on this site how or if to root or descent. Same goes for you …, fish-head !

  • Laz

    This team isn’t dead, but they need to stop focusing so much on the defense, and stop punting 5 lineup spots. Wells, Ichiro, Brignac, Nix have all been terrible.

    • forensic

      Ichiro is far from their biggest issue right now. Why is he still constantly thrown into comments like this? He’s at least producing some semblance of offense at the plate, playing good defense, and has some baserunning.

      • ArchStanton

        I’ve been trying to figure that one out, too.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I don’t even think Nix, Brignac, and Stewart truly belong there either. They are what they are.

        If I was the venom-spewing type, it’d be all over Wells, Hafner, and Youk right now.

        • forensic

          I could put Brignac in the useless group. Nix slightly less so and Stewart slightly less than that.

          But yeah, Wells, Hafner, and Youk (not to mention Tex but there’s nothing they can do about that really) are the poster-boys for the suck that is this offense.

          Robbie playing well below expectations is also a big part of the problem, obviously.

          • Travis L.

            I think Nix and Stewart are playing well for backup guys thrust into full time roles. Its not as though we can expect them to be Martins or McCanns. Like Tilapia said, they are what they are. Hell, they did more tonight than everyone else not named Gardner or Suzuki.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I like keeping a light-hitting SS hidden behind the mattress for when you need one.

          • stuart a

            did not see the whole game or Girardis reasoning fo rnot pinch hitting for Brignac.

            you think anyone has ever told him to reduce his swing? he is a awful hitter, simply awful

      • jim p

        Last 20 games, Ichi 23 for 70 for 3.28; outstanding play in the field, steals bases…. not really been the problem through this. Stealing 2nd and 3rd and having three batters strikeout is not Ichi’s fault.

      • Laz

        Ichiro has picked it up in the past couple weeks, but still he only has a .673 ops in June. LF/RF are historically good offensive positions, and right now the Yankees are so far away from average offense at those positions. They are basically the bottom of the league in offense from those 2 spots. SS I understand you need defense, but these are corner of spots.

    • The Real Me

      It would be nice if they actually had the choice of putting better offensive players in the lineup. Unfortunately …..

  • Chesser

    Of the final 9 Yankee hitters to bat in this game, 7 struck out. The 2013 Yankees: Making a three-run deficit feel like infinity.

    • forensic

      And 3 of those strikeouts were on 3 pitches with one of the others on 4 pitches. Really making them work for it.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    SSDD.

    Perhaps we should start singing old protest songs.

  • CONservative governMENt

    Might be time to see what Kuroda, Hughes and Cano would net in trades.

    Boston pulled it off and guys like Adams, Nuno, Nova need a chance to show whether they are worth keeping around.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I want Kuroda around next year. I expect the Yankees are going to make full court press to keep Robbie. Neither is happening unless I’m reading the tea leaves way wrong here.

      I’d entertain trading Hughes and Granderson if the free fall continues. I guess my understanding as to whether either would be a Type A is limited. If they are, I do wonder whether I’d just rather have the pick.

      • Travis L.

        Grandy might get a multi-year, since his injuries were flukes. Hughes though…not sure if he would give up the expensive one year deal.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I guess I’m wondering more if their respective 2013′s are going to affect whether we can collect picks if they leave.

          • Travis L.

            Yeah, if they turn down the QO, right?

            • Travis L.

              That’s what I meant…Grandy could turn it down and still get a multi-year deal (giving us a pick), but I don’t know if Hughes would give up the QO, even for a multi-year. Depends how how much he thinks he would get for a deal like that. I’m skeptical.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                I’d still risk Hughes take the QO from us, though.

                • Travis L.

                  I guess you are right. Hell, if he takes it, it solves one of the empty rotation spots. If not…

                  #draftpick

          • forensic

            The type-A’s and stuff like that went out with the old CBA, so how they did has no bearing on a draft pick or not.

            Any free agent who spent the whole season with a team is eligible for a QO (as far as I know).

            So, say Chris Stewart were a free agent, they could even offer him one and should he absurdly reject it, receive a draft pick for him.

            The only question in the new CBA is if you want to pay the guy the QO should he accept it, which is probably in the $13-14 million range again.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Thanks.

              So what’s worth more to you guys, what you could get for either guy now, or the pick you’d get later?

              Yes, I’d risk Hughes taking the Q! But that’s just me.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                QO. No clue what a Q! Is.

                • Travis L.

                  Couldn’t hurt to see what another team would offer, right? For any of them. The Yanks could just say no thanks and hang on to them.

                • Pat D

                  Star Trek: The Next Generation villain with added emphasis.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    Nerd alert.

                    • Pat D

                      You needed an answer.

              • forensic

                I wouldn’t risk it, not that that’s a big surprise.

                • forensic

                  I also may not even risk it for Granderson, but that’s a tougher decision. Depends more on how he looks when he gets back.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    I’d risk it on both.

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      I would too. Even if by some chance they accepted, on a 1 year deal, it wouldn’t be the end of the world

                    • MannyGeee

                      Yup. Even a mediocre yeah from Hughes will get an offer of more than $13M (total, as in, a multi year deal..)

                      And Granderson is one year a 2 broken hands (both from HBP, for flukes sake) from multiple 40 homer years. He’ll get more than 1/13 elsewhere.

      • CONservative governMENt

        Hughes would require a qualifying offer of $13M or so, no likely no pick there.

        Kuroda is a great pitcher but could be more valuable to another team willing to offer help for the future. He could have a NTC but they need to consider it.

    • Travis L.

      If this keeps up, and since we paid most of the salary owed to him in 2013, could we release Wells at some point (late this season or offseason)?

      I wonder if this type of play shocks the ‘Brenner boys into attempting to sign free agents this offseason…not that I know who would be available (or who would want to come to this carcass of a team).

      • Robinson Tilapia

        The carcass is still the New York Yankees. They’ll attract people just fine.

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          If that were true, how do you explain the huge YES network ratings and attendance drops this year?

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I have to explain that?

            • Manny’s BanWagon

              I thought you meant attract fans, not FAs.

              Players will always play wherever they get paid the most typically so not being able to sign free agents shouldn’t be a problem as long as the Yanks are willing to pay.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Of course, and I kinda followed up on both points below.

                I actually thought you were looking for me to correlate the two.

              • MannyGeee

                There have been MULTIPLE players who have signed in NY over the years despite getting offer for more money elsewhere. Things like: closer to home, easier to get home, preference of their families, more playing time, the elusive “extra year”…

                That said, having a shit ton of money to throw at a free agent doesn’t hurt…

          • CONservative governMENt

            I think he means free agents.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Yeah.

              Honestly, though, I think someone else said it best the other day. Who’s going to get excited over a bunch of random guys on one-year deals?

              • Manny’s BanWagon

                Yep. I’d be more apt to watch a 75 win team full of young players with promise than an 85 win over the hill gang who are on their last leg.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  I can already tell you there’s one casual fan lying right next to me right now who wasn’t paying attention in April because “those aren’t Yankees.”

                  I partially agree with you, unless that 85 win team can make the playoffs.

                  • Manny’s BanWagon

                    IMO, 85 wins isn’t making the playoffs.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      More of a general comment than referring to this season.

          • jim p

            Money. The absence thereof. Cable subscriptions have been falling for 2 years, people can’t afford the expense of going to a ballgame.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              They can afford it in NYC more tha in other parts of the country. The impact is different.

              • jim p

                You missed the NY Times article where 50% of the population is in poverty, or one paycheck from poverty.

                Wage earners can’t afford ballgames anymore, can’t afford cable.

        • Travis L.

          I meant players though. I’m still a fan. I will stand behind this team, win or lose. I just want them to maximize opportunities given. If they continue to slide, I think maybe they should consider moving some of the bigger names and then make a run at them in the offseason (Cano and Kuroda the main focus). That way, its like a win/win. We get whatever we get now, then the player at free agency as we are hoping for anyway.

          The free agents thing is whether other players think they have a shot to win (most big name talents will look to that first, would they not?). Would someone like McCann or Pence sign with the Yankees, even if they feel that the Yankees aren’t contending these days?

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I’d wager conventional baseball wisdom still says the Yankees are never too far away from contending.

            • Travis L.

              I hope so. I would never bet against them. I will have to admit, though, that I’ve been a fan since the 90′s, having not really been able to follow them (the way we do now) until the late 90′s. So, I’ve always known a winning team. I know these guys still have an above .500 winning percentage, but I confess that this is tough to stomach. I am not down though…just frustrated. I have my hope that the team will snap out of this.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                I hear you.

                I actually do remember when players shunned the team because they didn’t want to deal with the Boss……you know, that dead guy who rolls in his grave and would change this all with a snap of his fingers.

                • Travis L.

                  And that’s what I’m worried about, when it comes to this next offseason. I have no doubt that if things continue to trend downward, that Hall and Co. will want to sign someone or multiple someones to attempt to right the ship, but what if those guys don’t want to sign and we are “stuck” with what we have and what’s in the minors….

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    I just don’t think Hal is leaving any sort of particular impression on anyone. He’s an owner with a ton of cash. That’s it.

                    The celery cap would stop someone only because the team might not be willing to meet an asking price.

                    • TomH

                      Whenever Hal speaks, he reminds me of Chauncey Gardiner, in Being There.

                • Manny’s BanWagon

                  It isnt fair to say it was all because of the Boss. . The NY media vultures had a lot to do with it not to mention living in NY and playing in the Bronx.

        • forensic

          They’re starting to attract flies too…

  • Duh Injuries

    Why be pissed about the losing when the Yanks don’t have these ELEVEN 2012-13 Yankees?

    C – Martin, Cervelli
    1B – Teixiera
    3B – Rodriguez, Youkilis, Chavez
    SS – Jeter, Nunez
    CF – Granderson
    RF – Swisher
    DH – Ibanez

    I’m looking at it like this:

    Go homegrown. Reacquire Melky Cabrera for RF and Jesus Montero for 1B. Start Adams at 3B all year. Start Cervelli and Nunez when they come back. Lock up Cano and Gardner. Bring Jeter back if he doesn’t bring himself back. Let’s see what Zolio Almonte can do. Have Romine, Joseph, Mesa, and Mustelier be the bench. Get rid of Teixiera, trade Boesch, let go of Granderson, Youkilis, Brignac, Neal, Nix, Overbay, Hafner, release Suzuki and Wells in the offseason.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      This is a recording.

      This is a recording.

    • Travis L.

      Bong. Down. Now.

    • BFDeal

      This is life, the one you get so go and have a ball, because the world don’t move, to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you, may not be right for some. You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the facts of life..sit ubu sit. Good dog.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Even worked in the outro there.

        *applause*

  • Kramerica Industries

    ‘cripes, now the Bruins win, too.

    As far as sports goes, this absolutely gets a #WorstDayEver hashtag association. Red Sox, Bruins, and Rays won, and the Yankees played like shit once again. (though, seriously, good luck to Alex Cobb.)

    • forensic

      The early reports are just a mild concussion, which is somewhat impressive.

      • Travis L.

        Lucky bastard. Seriously. That’s good news!

    • Mike

      Blackhawks fan?

      • Kramerica Industries

        For this series, yeah.

        I can never bring myself to be ok with a Boston team winning a championship. Thus, gotta support the Hawks in this series.

  • Mike

    Not a bad start by Phelps. Only 1 run away from a quality start. Need to score more than 2 runs.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Only 1 run away from mediocrity!!!!

      Not that it matters with the offensive offense and all.

  • jtb103281

    Cashman has outdone himself this time. He usually builds a team full of .250 hitters who do nothing but hit HR’s along with GIDP, SO’s and pop outs. Now, he has succeeded in building a team with a bunch of .220 hitters who can’t do anything. Congrats Cashman you’re an IDIOT of the greatest magnitude. There has never been a GM who does LESS with MORE than you, as usual. Wonderful off-season, your trades suck, your signings suck (Im not interested in the exceptions, im interested in the rule) and pretty much everything you do sucks. Do us a favor and retire. Stupid schmuck..

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      The sad part is Girardi will probably get most of the blame at the end of this likely 82-83 win season.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I doubt that. It’d surprise me if fingers get pointed at anyone, really. It’s obvious it isn’t Joe, and the FO is too tight to turn in each other…..yet.

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          I how so. IMO, the toughest part of being manager is managing the pitching staff and bullpen and that’s Girardi’s strength

    • Travis L.

      Relax…you cant put it on Cashman. If I told you that you had to purchase a vehicle with the money I give you, then give you $200. You think you’re getting a Jag? No…you’re getting a POS. That’s what happened. Hal gave Cashman absolutely nothing and then asked him to build a team. Cash did what he could and they have been surprisingly above expectations at this point. Although, they are showing true colors now.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Replace $200 with $230M and you’re getting a whole lot of Jags.

        • SDB

          Well, he did sign a Jag in the first round of the draft.

          • MannyGeee

            Hehehe… Well done

  • WhittakerWalt

    FIVE HITS. Five.

  • Truther

    Mikes rant is looking better and better with each passing day. Eat a fat one Pollyannas.

  • Pat D

    I have to say that the game thread was a lot nicer tonight. I mean, same arguing, but no name-calling or attacking.

    That’s nice.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Shit, look at this thread now. Different opinions being expressed by people who respect each other. Sad trolling attempts completely ignored.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    Can’t wait to see what next year will look like likely without Pettitte, Kuroda, Hughes, Granderson, Mo and possibly Cano with a weak FA market and nothing much likely to be coming up from the farm.

    • Pat D

      I’m guessing something like Atlanta right after Sherman’s men were finished.

      • Pat D

        Oh, and I salute them for their service at that!

        • vicki

          i hope you’re kidding.

          • Pat D

            About Sherman and his men? Absolutely not. He knew how to bring the war to a quicker end. Terror is an effective weapon.

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        Sadly, I agree

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I think the farm situation is a bit better than folks think. Everyone’s too freaked out because Austin and Slade didn’t come out all gangbusters in April. I still think one of them starts knocking on the door at this time next season. You’ve also got your namesake coming back and, hopefully, Ramirez knocking on the door. Who knows how fast Jaeglio and Judge rise?

      We’ll see soon enough what Pineda’s got.

      Other than that, barring some major maneuvering, yeah, there’s reason to worry.

      I still think Robbie and Kuroda are going nowhere.

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        I think it’s a reach to think guys struggling in AA are gonna be significant contributors to the team in 2014. Banuelos is gonna need at least half a season, likely more coming off TJS. Pineda and Ramirez have a legitimate chance to contribute as does Betances out of the pen.
        I think Cano will be back but I’m not so sure about Kuroda especially since I’ve read he wants to,finish out his career in Japan coupled with the fact that the 2014 NYY team is shaping up to be their weakest in about 20 years.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Austin’s looked just fine as of late. Slade’s lines don’t jump out at me, but he’s certainly doing better. If one goes to AAA, and one repeats, it’s not the end of the world. Guys who wind up repeating levels become solid MLB players. Bernie gets over-cited in this case, but I’ll throw his name out there again.

          It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see Austin be part of the conversation in a year’s time.

          I forgot to mention Murphy, as well as our not expecting the production we’ve gotten from Warren and Claiborne thus far. There will be other unheralded heroes.

        • MannyGeee

          FWIW, Betances has been in full beast mode since going to the ‘pen for good. He has a legit chance of being a bullpen contributor at some point… Maybe even this year.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Has to be this year, right? Isn’t this his last option year?

    • forensic

      Yeah, it could be even uglier and less-relateable-to than this squad, which is really saying something.

  • Louis anderson

    Robinson Tilapia: Cuban lover of baseball, thinks he is a genius, and loves to tell people he is married and has a kid. Sounds like someone who is happy to have met a woman in the first place, then talks down to her all day, like he does posters on this blog. What a man.

    • Chris

      Wtf. Hahaha

      • Pat D

        I know, right?

    • Truther

      You sure because according to him he respects others on this blog. One thing is for damn sure if I was wrong about every damn single thing like Fishy always is I would stop posting and embarrassing myself. Hopefully Justin and Patrick would follow suit.

      Don’t worry all “YANKS ARE JUST FINE. Nothing wrong at all. Don’t pay any attention to that White Elephant you see sitting on your couch” Signed Mo, Larry, Curly ERRR I mean Fishy, Patrick, Justin

      • Pat D

        Now that’s right out of order. If anything, I’m Curly.

        On the serious side, before I O:S you, let me just say that you have extreme reading comprehension fail regarding all three of us. EXTREME. I never go about saying this team is just fine. I just don’t vent to this board because I don’t feel it’s necessary. Obviously the team has a shitload of problems. I don’t really see any way to fix them and so I don’t offer any suggestions along those lines. I like having conversations with the sane posters here, but I’m not living and dying with every single fucking game. If you want to do that, fine, go ahead. It’s not for me anymore.

        I’m really only speaking for myself but you obviously don’t read what Tilapia or jjyank say very clearly. But that’s OK. You’re just embarrassing yourself.

        By the way, are you a friend of Troll or are you Troll? Because he has an unhealthy obsession with the three of us. Like borderline stalker level. Oh, that’s right, I’m just going to ignore you from now on so I really don’t give a shit.

        O to the motherfucking S.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I feel left out here. Maybe I should start calling out assholery more. Truther, you’re being an asshole.

    • stanky-wicz.

      Tilapia is a douche bag. Who cares what he says? Take his insults with a grain of salt.

      • Dalek Jeter

        What’s it like having a 3 way conversation with yourself on a message board making fun of people who are actually pretty cool? Does it feel good? Vindicated?

        • Robinson Tilapia

          *hands Axisa a squeegee*

      • MannyGeee

        So much fail. 3x the fail. Dummy.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          So much shouting. So much laughter. Last night’s underwear in my back pocket. Sure sign of the morning after.

          Eternal props from me to anyone who can name that artist without using the Hoigle.

  • dennyneagleshooker

    alot of money is coming off the books:

    Mo @ 10
    Jeets @ 16
    Grandyman @ 15
    Youk @ 12
    Kuroda @ 15
    Hughes @ 7.150
    Pettite @ 12
    Joba & Pronk @ 2
    &
    Robbie making 15

    That is 106 Million off the books & even with a 30M reduction (we’re ~ around 220 and aiming for 189). 75M (say 52 with Robbie being resigned?) give us some money to play with. Figure a rotation of CC, Pineda, Phelps, Nova/Nuno/Warren? and a starter for 10-12. Pick up a corner outfielder for another 12-15 (FA Pence/Choo or trade). Exercise Jeets for 8 or outbid and give him say 12. Some bench parts picking up 5-7. Good shape with still some cash to pay for some parts; maybe even have another 10 to pick someone else up. Wash out Youk with Adams. Bring up Montgomery to replace Joba, Slide D-Rob to the closers spot. Make a trade or two. With all things considered 14% of the payroll is being absorbed by Arod (189 is really 162, the Yanks will never be out.

    • MannyGeee

      While I don’t love your math and am not crazy about the potential of Pence or Choo for $12-15M per, you are making a bucket load of sense. Get through this year, clean up a little next season, $189 is not horribly unattainable, and they won’t be any more ‘out of it’ next season…

      Although, I would rather they spend the money and sink this $189 bullshit, and according to 2/3 of the people above the Yankees are already ‘out of it’, so what do I know…

  • 461deep

    Kuroda wants to retire so trade value limited. Robbie loves the short porch so 6 years at 120 M might do it.
    YES Ratings down big, attendance too so Hal-Hank may not spend big for FA for awhile.
    Tex, Alex, Derek lost year. Grandy may contribute some in second half. Ichiro should be acceptable for the year with all his tools albeit they have faded. Wild car dreams…
    Go Phil in Open.

  • Get Phelps Up

    That news about Tex really sucks. It seems like if he doesn’t need surgery, he’ll need a lot of time to rehab his wrist into shape and be out a long time regardless. Hopefully Youk can come back and be an adequate replacement, so we can devote more resources to finding an OFer (or maybe a catcher, but I don’t think that’s nearly as big of a priority.) If we can stay within ~5 games of the division by the time Grandy, Alex and Jeter return I think we still have a shot. You don’t need a great offense with the staff the Yanks have but you need better than what we’ve been getting.

    • Get Phelps Up

      Also here’s another 2011 game thread :)
      ttp://riveraveblues.com/2011/05/game-41-rain-in-bmore-48426/

      We all remember this game I’m sure.

      • Kramerica Industries

        I think I had a shitload of busy work that night. I don’t even remember watching that game, certainly not in the 15th inning. Another case of 2011 being something of a lost season for me.

        The Lightning were also playing the Bruins in the Eastern Conference Final at this time, but I’m pretty certain they didn’t play a Wednesday game.

      • forensic

        I don’t know how you pick them out and find these all so easily, but it’s awesome.

        And I’m glad you found one that I finally appeared in. I actually do kind of remember being pissed about him taking Colon out of that game. It’s kind of interesting skimming through all the offensive ineptness and RISPfail of that game and comparing it to how they look now.

    • stuart a

      dream on.

      1 of those 2 is 39 and fractured his ankle twice the other is a roid user coming off his 2nd hip surgery and he stunk before the surgery.

      wake up to reality, this team is old and fragile. youkilis, and grandy’s injuries have killed them..

      brignac is hitting about 115 and they did not even want to use the great Vernon wells in that situation. they had no 1b if they moved adams to 3rd and nix to SS…. they are decimated n=by injuries and innefective players. hafner has been awful…

      • Get Phelps Up

        A-Rod didn’t stink before the surgery. He put up a 112 OPS+ last season. But only 57 RBIs…
        It also won’t be hard for Jeter to be an upgrade over Ruben Tejada Nix and friends.

  • stuart a

    cano is not worth 6 years at $20 mill. let him walk take the pick…

    he is not worth it….

    rebuild now….

  • Tom

    Phil Hughes QO? I can’t believe people are saying even if he takes it, it’s not a disaster. It’s a huge risk at ~14mil and given how much people like to say “well he’s young”, maybe he looks at what happened to Lohse last year and says “14mil? Sure and I’ll still hit the FA market pre-30 and the 2nd time around I may not have the QO compensation albatross”(which would help his market value.)

    ~14mil for a #5 (maybe 4 if you squint real hard?)… Forget the name or that he came up through the Yankees system and look at his performance the last 3 years:

    By FIP, here are the people around him since 2011:
    - Phil Humber Games, Ervin Santana, Baked Zito, Brett Myers, Randy Hungry Like a Wolf

    By FIP- (to take out the AL and Yankees stadium impact) here are the people around him:
    - Bruce Chen, Chris Capuano, Phil Humber, Joe Saunders, Kyle Kendrick

    Would you be OK with signing any of these guys (if they were available) on a 1yr/14mil? How about 1/10mil? 1/8mil? Or would you be saying “WTF are they doing!?!?”

    If the 189mil plan is real I just don’t see the Yankees taking that risk, unless Phil went on a huge 2nd half roll. The other issue is what if they want to make a run at either Kuroda or Pettitte on another 1 yr deal? What do you offer Kuroda if Phil takes his 1yr ~14mil QO?

    Maybe the Yankees take that risk as one GM is likely to overpay (and they may bank on Hughes and his agent assuming this and turning down the QO), but if he takes the QO, things get pretty rough if 189mil is real.

  • stuart a

    i tender Hughes absolutely. He walks they get a pick and 1 yr at $16 mill for a 27 year old pitcher who is a good #4, for sure.

    sure arod is better then what they have a 3b so is craig nettles today….whiptydoo…

    cano, nunez, and cervelli just getting those 3 back will help a ton. brignac is a horrible hitter the guy is 28, he will never ever hit unless he totally changes his stance and swing….

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Nettles might last longer than Youk at this point.

  • stuart a

    menat grandy not cano obviously…

  • forensic

    Happy Father’s Day to all the fellow RAB Dad’s out there.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Happy Father’s Day to you as well, forensic!!

    • mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

      Happy Father’s Day to you both enjoy the day.

    • MannyGeee

      Happy Father’s Day, boys.

      Shit, now I got to spend the day with my kids, huh….

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Happy Father’s Day, Manuelito.

  • high heat

    The 2013 New York Yankees: Are you ready for some football?

    • Mike

      I think I’d rather watch paint dry than watch the Jets right now.

  • The Real Me

    Late to the game, but Happy Father Day to all you fathers. (was on the phone with my daughter and forgot to post this. They do get enjoyable again. she’s a great person and I really enjoy speaking with her.)

  • JLC 776

    So, are we sellers yet? And do we have anything worth selling? I think I’m only being halfway sarcastic…