Does Ryan Braun’s suspension tell us anything about what’s coming for A-Rod?

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Braun picked the best possible time to serve his suspension. (Mike McGinnis/Getty)
Braun picked the best possible time to serve his suspension. (Mike McGinnis/Getty)

On Monday afternoon, the baseball world was rocked with the news of Ryan Braun’s season-ending suspension stemming from his connection to the South Florida performance-enhancing drug hub Biogenesis. The 2011 NL MVP effectively admitted to taking a performance-enhancer(s) without being specific — “I have made some mistakes,” he said in a statement — and agreed to a modified suspension term (65 games, officially). So, just like that, he’s done for the year.

Naturally, Alex Rodriguez is now firmly in the PED/Biogenesis cross hairs. He and Braun were said to be MLB’s top two targets given their past indiscretions — A-Rod admitted to using PEDs in 2009 and Braun successfully appealed a suspension back in 2011. That made them public enemies number one and two. One and 1A, really. Now that one is suspended, the focus shifts to 1A.

Before we can figure out if Braun’s suspension impacts A-Rod, we first have to take a second to fully understand the situation. Braun met with MLB’s investigators recently, at which point they laid out the evidence they have against him and reportedly proposed a plea agreement. Braun’s camp eventually decided to accept the settlement and skip the appeals process. The timing is crucial for the following reasons:

  1. Braun is hurt: He’s been dealing with a nerve problem in his right thumb/hand pretty much all year, including spending close to a month on the DL.
  2. The Brewers stink: Following Monday’s loss to the Padres, Milwaukee has the third worst record in baseball at 41-57. They are total non-contenders and were prepared to sell long before Braun’s suspension.
  3. Braun’s salary: The suspension is without pay, and Braun was scheduled to make $8.5M in 2013. That jumps to $10M next year and $12M in 2014.

By accepting the plea agreement and serving the suspension now, Braun gets to rest his thumb and lose the least amount of salary possible. The Brewers aren’t contending, so his absence won’t hurt their chances either. If he was going to be suspended — obviously he felt that was inevitable based on the evidence presented by MLB during their interview, otherwise he wouldn’t have accepted the plea deal — this was the best possible time to serve it.

(Streeter Lecka/Getty)
(Streeter Lecka/Getty)

With A-Rod, the circumstances are a little different. Yes, he’s hurt right now and the Yankees pretty much stink, so in that sense getting a suspension out of the way now seems like a good idea. On the other hand, Alex’s contract is front-loaded, which is not common at all. He’ll earn $28M this year, $25M next year, and $21M in 2015. By appealing and potentially pushing the suspension back to next year, A-Rod will be saving himself money because his salary will be lower.

“My understanding is he’s trying to make a deal,” said a source to Wally Matthews yesterday. A-Rod’s legal team has been reportedly mulling over a plea deal in recent days, but the nature of that deal is unknown. T.J. Quinn reported yesterday that MLB’s evidence against Alex is “far beyond” what they had for Braun, so chances are a settlement would be much more harsh. We’ve seen a 150-game suspension suggested at one point, but who really knows. The general consensus seems to be that they want to hit A-Rod with the stiffest penalty possible.

As far as the Yankees are concerned, I’m not sure if there is a “best time” for Alex to serve the suspension. Is it better to have him serve it this year — while he’s hurt and the team is a fringe contender at best — just to get it out of the way? Or is it better to wait until next year, when they would save a huge chunk of his salary towards that all-important $189M luxury tax threshold*? There’s a case to be made for both scenarios and I’ve gone back and forth between the two already.

So, to answer the question in the title, I don’t think the Braun suspension tells us anything about what A-Rod will have to deal with other than a) MLB means business, and b) it’ll be hard to discredit former Biogenesis chief Anthony Bosch. That was probably Alex’s legal team’s primary plan of attack, to discredit the guy who reportedly tried to extort a six-figure payout from A-Rod before getting into bed with MLB. These are two different (but similar) cases and it’s impossible to know if the two sides will work out a plea deal or go the suspension/appeals route. Braun’s suspension was just first of what figures to many, but unfortunately it really doesn’t clarify anything as far A-Rod’s situation and its impact on the Yankees. We’re left in wait and see mode, as we have since the start of the Biogenesis investigation.

* No, A-Rod’s salary does not count against the luxury tax while he’s suspended. I don’t know how the calculation works, but I know it doesn’t count. He also won’t count against the 40-man roster, so there’s that.

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  • kenthadley

    I think a 4.5 year suspension would be just fine.

    • Tisha

      please make it so . But, we’re dreaming

    • ajra21

      The day they announced that deal, I said we’d regret it before it was half way done.

      • dalelama

        When it comes Aroid everyone is now The Dalelama.

      • Rick

        You and everyone else on the planet

  • radnom

    Time to eat crow everyone who has been criticizing MLB for pursuing a witch hunt with no evidence.

    Best case scenario (outside of forced retirement), Arod serves the suspension next year and the Yankees can plan for that in the offseason.

    • Crime Dog

      Its not the “no evidence” for me. Its how they got that evidence.

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

        “Buying” evidence has never sat well with me. It opens a lot of really sketchy doors.

        • Future ACE MannyGeee

          slippery slippery slope.

      • ajra21

        If you are a mulimillion dollar athlete, and you take PEDs, I’m not sure you can complain about how the evidence comes to light. You cheated, man up and take what’s coming.

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          But we, as fans, aren’t million dollar athletes. We can complain all we want.

        • Crime Dog

          Yeah I’m not worried about how the athletes feel. More so how I feel. And I’m not a multimillion dollar athlete by any stretch.

      • Rick

        Really? Bosch sold himself to the highest bidder. The guy is a scumbag. Evidence is evidence, who cares how they got it. They didn’t do anything wrong legally or ethically. A-Rod is the one who cheated and tried to do it secretly so he wouldn’t get caught. MLB did nothing wrong.

        • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

          Right. MLB did nothing wrong. Except for the years and years they spent looking the other way while Sosa, McGwire, and Bonds (and then Clemens, and Papi, and ARod, and and and) made a mockery of things while “saving” the sport from a self-imposed death sentence brought about by the strike.

          Other than that, yes, MLB did nothing wrong.

          • Rick

            I was referencing this present situation. What do Bonds and Sosa, et. al have to do with Ryan Braun?

            • wolfgang’s Fault

              & yet I’m confident you still don’t know shit from shinola.

    • Gonzo

      I kinda agree but moreso about the reporters covering this story along the way. A lot of them were right about the story, investigation, and suspensions sought.

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

      It’s still a witch hunt, even if there’s evidence. They are targeting a select few, they aren’t doing anything that will actually curtail PED use. They’re just trying to cover their own asses.

      No one looks good here. Not the players, not the entitled POS Rick Sutcliffe, not Selig, not the owners, not the media.

      • Gonzo

        They have broader testing than the other major sports including the NFL, right?

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          Yep, toughest in American sports. But none of these suspensions are due to positive tests.

          • Gonzo

            Exactly, but you said they aren’t doing anything that will curtail PED use. You don’t think going on a witch hunt will make some players think twice before using?

            • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

              I think all it will do is make players stop associating with scumbags and sketchy clinics, and will make them keep their names off of documents.

              The financial benefits of using PED’s still far, far outweigh the negatives of getting caught the first time.

              • Gonzo

                I agree that the financial benefits outweigh the negatives, but MLB is trying to show a positive test isn’t the only thing that will get you.

                Will that deter all of the players, of course not. But do you really think that it will deter no player? Not one single player?

                I mean, it’s not like this stuff is handed out at Halloween. A scumbag or sketchy clinic is probably going to have to get its hands on something you are using illegally at some point even if you don’t know about it.

                • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                  OK fine, it might deter a few players, if you wanted to take my statement literally.

                  But the needle won’t move substantially.

                  PEDs are a gigantic industry. If you think it’s only scumbags and sketchy clinics involved in this, you’re wrong.

                  • Gonzo

                    If you think it’s only scumbags and sketchy clinics involved in this, you’re wrong.

                    I didn’t say this.

                    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                      ” A scumbag or sketchy clinic is probably going to have to get its hands on something you are using illegally at some point even if you don’t know about it.”

                      It’s implied.

                      My point is that players don’t need to associate with those places directly. And they can stop putting their names on things with the places they do have to associate with.

                    • Gonzo

                      If you think it’s only scumbags and sketchy clinics involved in this, you’re wrong.

                      Emphasis mine.

                      At no point did I imply it was only scumbags sketchy people.

                      If that’s what you read from my statement, I can’t help you.

                    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                      At least, in response to my point, I had to interpret it that way, because my point was that players need to stop associating directly with the sketchy places.

                    • Gonzo

                      I hold you to what you actually wrote and your response, OK fine,…if you wanted to take my statement literally. Then you proceed to add false arguments into what I wrote. Anyone else find this ironic?

                    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                      No one’s getting busted by the manufacturers. It’s only the distributors, who, in most of these PED cases, have been sketchy.

                      I have no sympathy for stupidity, and leaving names on documents at these facilities is stupid.

                      My larger point is that targeting clinics doesn’t do anything to limit PED use, because new ones will pop up, and players will continue to look for them.

                      The only way to eliminate PED use is for much, much harsher 1st time penalties. Minimum yearlong suspension.

                      And you need to penalize the teams too, to give them incentive to make sure their players are clean.

                    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                      If you want to start a pissing contest, I’ve got all day.

                    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                      And my head is a pecker, so I’ve got a head start.

                    • Gonzo

                      My response was to this, …they aren’t doing anything that will actually curtail PED use.

                      I think you conceded that this was hyperbole. OK fine, it might deter a few players… So there was no disagreement between us in the first place.

                      My next problem was that you falsely implied something that I did not.

                      Coming next is just red herrings.

      • Ed

        They got a lead on a clinic that was supplying players with drugs. They followed that lead and are going after everyone on their client list. They seem to be building pretty strong cases and coming in with harsh penalties.

        This is on top of having the strictest testing plan in any pro sport.

        To me, that sounds like they’re doing everything they can. No idea how you see this as “just trying to cover their own asses.”

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          Then why are they selecting only the stars? What about the thousands of guys who are taking steroids or other PED’s just to make it to the majors? Why not make a bigger deal out of them? No one remembers the random AA guy who tests positive one time, but those are the guys we need to be focused on if we actually want to stop PEDs.

          • Dan

            Just because they suspended Braun first, doesn’t mean they’re only going after stars. Remember you said that when Cervelli gets suspended.

            And they do drug test in the minors (and have for a long time–longer than they’ve been testing in the bigs), those guys get suspended.

            • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

              Lets see if they make even remotely as big of a deal out of a Cervelli suspension.

              Minor league guys DO get suspended, but it’s public for a day. If that. There’s none of this public shaming.

              • Ed

                The “making a big deal out of it” is done by the press. The press writes about players that people care about. Generally that means the stars and the local team.

                Why would a random fan care about Cesear Carillo? No one’s going to buy a newspaper to read about him.

      • radnom


        It’s still a witch hunt, even if there’s evidence. They are targeting a select few,

        Bullshit. Back that statement up. They are bringing down a giant distribution lab with solid connections to 15-20 MLB players. Which was made public before the league got involved.

        They had to investigate this, and its not ‘targeting’ anyone that they did. I feel no sympathy for Bonds, Arod and Braun for being involved in giant PED superlabs that get taken down by the government. That is the surest way to be caught.

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          Woah. 15-20 players. Blow me down.

          • Rick

            Just because only 15-20 players went to a clinic that they’re aware of doesn’t mean it’s a witch hunt and those players are being targeted. Your ignorance is painful.

            • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

              Completely agreed. That’s almost an entire roster’s worth of players. This is nothing short of a BIG FUCKING DEAL, or will be by the time all 20 suspensions are handed down.

              And when you add in player backlash to Braun’s sanctimonious denials and the way he sullied the test collector, I think this absolutely will curtail usage going forward.

              And if it doesn’t (say another lab and another 20 guys go down next year) then the league will use it to pressure the MLBPA into even harsher suspensions during the next go round of CBA negotiations.

              • Rick

                I don’t see how the owners can agree to anything less than a lifetime ban or contracts being voided. There is no way Braun, A-Rod, etc. should continue getting paid the enormous sums of money left on their deal. They essentially fraudulently induced their teams into signing them to that contract.

                • wolfgang’s Fault

                  Horse Snot! The teams all signed these guys willingly, knowing there were issues with respect to all of them. If the teams didn’t do their due diligence in light of what had already come to light about usage throughout the game, then they didn’t want to know & deliberately looked the other way. Their own negligence doesn’t make them the aggrieved party. It makes them silent co-conspirators who like Claude Rains in Casablanca are “shocked, shocked” to find cheating going on in their game. As for the fans, most of them only want to win & don’t care how that’s done. Very few have clean hands in all of this. It wouldn’t surprise me if you had warts all over yours, Ricky boy.

      • WhittakerWalt

        It’s really not a witch hunt if the guys are actually guilty. The whole idea of calling something a witch hunt is the the authorities are going after completely innocent people. Like they did in the actual witch hunts.

        • Rick

          Stop trying to be rational, Walt. He’s already convinced it’s a witch hunt and he will not accept any other explanation.

      • Mister D

        The problem being that in a witch hunt, there aren’t any actual witches. Here, there are (or sure seem to be) PED users.

        I would be far more upset about this process if this was being done by government officials with criminal charges pending. These are employees who are, from one point of view, defrauding their employers. Bosch is still scum, but I don’t have a big issue with MLB using every means at its disposal to “get” those that have actually done something wrong.

  • CONservative governMENt

    Hoping it gets delayed for next year – full season.

  • will

    i think it’s better he waits, yankees getting insurance money now, and then next year it’ll go against the cap. So they’ll save even more then. Can essentially resign cano with an off loaded contract at that point.Yankees should thank arod.

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      “Can essentially resign cano with an off loaded contract at that point…”

      Only issue is that the cap goes against AAV. Front or backloading only works when trading for a contract.

    • mike

      saving money for the Yanks…my how the mighty have fallen :)

  • Jeff

    Hope he gets the Pete Rose treatment.

  • Frank

    I’ve always believed, and still believe, A-Rod will never again play for the Yankees. Braun’s suspension just confirms this IMO. We now hear A-Rod is negotiating a deal to save face, money, whatever. He’s a goner. It’s just a matter of how many games MBL decides to suspend him. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if as part of whatever deal A-Rod and his team reach, they also negotiate a buy out with the Yanks.

    • mitch

      I’ve said the same thing since last year off season. He’s played his last game here. Hopefully the suspension is a full year and he just retires, but I’d settle for a year suspension + buyout.

  • CONservative governMENt

    I kind of want ARod to play this season just to see the reaction from media, fans, peers…

    If he gets suspended now he gets to slink away somewhat, like Saruman and Wormtongue.

    • trr

      Will he be stabbed in the back or shot with arrows by Hobbits too?

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

        Neither of which happened in the book, fwiw.

        • trr

          uhhh….way, way off topic here, but Wormtongue stabbed Saruman (actually cut his throat) then was shot to death by Hobbit archers. Did you read the book, Jim?

          • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

            Sigh. I totally misread your post and thought of the scene from the movie where wormtongue stabs sauruman, then gets shot by legolas.

            I’m going home.

            • trr

              LOL, it’s OK Jim!
              I just happen to be a Tolkien freak from way back when

        • Tolkien Geek

          Actually, it does happen in the book, not in the movie. Cf. “The Return of the King,” penultimate chapter “The Scouring of the Shire,” various pages for various editions obviously. Saruman is stabbed in the back by Wormtongue who is shot by the Hobbits as he tries to flee. So that’s that. It’s a weird pastoral coda to the downfall of Sauron, but I think Tolkien wanted it there to show that the end of Evil isn’t the end of all evil, which is to say that after MLB suspends A-Rod they will send the Hobbits after Melky Cabrera and Cervelli.

          • trr

            And in their arrogance they will ignore the hobbits which will eventually lead to destruction of the the whole Biogenesis clinic and all those who profited by it.

            “Oft evil will shall evil mar”

          • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

            This is where I put on my dunce cap and deduce 40 points from my LOTR fandom attribute.

          • WhittakerWalt

            “The Scouring of the Shire” is the second-worst thing Tolkien’s ever written. Second only to anything having to do with Tom Bombadil.

            Two cents.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixiera – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew)

    Might be trolling here but I think that this quad strain is pretty convenient. I think the Yankees will have to answer questions about this, but not to the extent it would be if he was playing 3B for them at the moment.

    • JLC 776

      I think a lot of people are starting to draw this conclusion.

      Now this part might be trolling – Cashman’s “shut the eff up” remark? Were the Yankees planning on making sure he didn’t fully make it back up just in case of this eventuality and ARod’s “I’m fine!” comment almost blew it?

      • Crime Dog

        Think about how quickly trade rumors leak out. Now think about how quickly a conspiracy this big would leak out of a front office. It just seems like too big of a conspiracy.

        • JLC 776

          That is true – I generally never buy into conspiracy theories for that exact reason. But this one wouldn’t surprise me. The quad strain is pretty out of nowhere.

          • mitch

            the quad strain is just the most recent bizarre happening. This started last off season when he needed months of prehab before his surgery that delayed his original return.

            • JLC 776

              A friend of mine just sent me this! It’s gaining momentum! http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....00470.html

            • Captain

              no that was a medical thing. there is nothing bizarre about the decision to attempt to build up strength in that area before the surgery.

              • mitch

                For months after he had just finished playing a season of a professional sport? How much strength could he possibly had to build up?

    • Bo Knows

      No one is going to commit a major felony, that comes with jail time mind you just to keep someone they dislike away. If the team wanted to, they could just suspend him themselves.

  • Gonzo

    There is one thing I would like to add that I think is important. A-Rod added Braun’s lawyer in June. I’m not sure what that means, but I think it’s important to note.

  • SEHumphrey

    ARod might not come back this season or even part of next, but at least the Yankees got Soriano! That will solve holes at 5 positions.

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

      Keep it in the other thread.

      • JLC 776

        Dear God, man – don’t send anyone back to that thread. It’s like Mogadishu over there.

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          Haha I just didn’t want it here too!

  • Gonzo

    Heck, a Soriano trade might be a sign that they Yankees are thinking they are saving A-Rod’s salary the rest of the year at the least.

  • Bavarian Yankee

    let’s hope they suspend him for like 150 games and he retires. Those suspensions are a joke anyway. Ryan Braun laughs about his 2 month suspension.

    tbh you can’t even blame the players, the system is so broken that you’re an idiot if you don’t take PEDs. At worst you’re out of the game for 2 months, at best you get your 200MM paycheck. You basically can’t lose anything if you cheat. I’m honest, I’d very likely do it too. And hey: we don’t even know the real numbers of PED users because like 98% of those will never get caught anyway.

    This doping stuff really, really, really annoys me. I wish they’d just allow it in all sports because as long as money is involved you can’t prevent it anyway.

    • Mike Myers

      “This doping stuff really, really, really annoys me. I wish they’d just allow it in all sports because as long as money is involved you can’t prevent it anyway.”

      This issue is that all minor league players would have to juice to compete….meaning all college players who want to be minor/major players would have to juice. That would also mean all high school players that want to get into the minors/college would have to juice. The health effects would be wide spread….cant have it.

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

        As if those health effects aren’t already present.

        I knew plenty of guys in HS who were on steroids. I saw it.

        • Mike Myers

          that doest mean we should try to protect/prevent people from the health effects

          • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

            All I’m saying is legal or illegal, PED’s are always going to be present at every level.

            I wish it weren’t the case, especially in HS where they have even more negative consequences, but such is life when so much money is involved.

            • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

              The problem is you can say this about any crime or right v wrong situation.

              “Well there will always be X (murder, rape, heroin, whatever) so we might as well just allow it.”

              That doesn’t work for me, sorry.

              At some point, if you decide something is wrong, you try to prevent it. That could be via education, punishment, whatever. But you try to prevent it.

              Now if you don’t think PEDs are wrong, that’s a different argument. I wouldn’t agree with that either, but it’s a different argument.

      • Rolling Doughnut

        The problem, of course, is that steroids have disastrous effects on health.

    • http://twitter.com/matt__harris Matt :: Sec110

      For the last time: AROD WILL NOT VOLUNTARILY RETIRE AND FORFEIT 100+ MILLION DOLLARS. NEVER, EVER, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

        He could claim he’s not healthy enough, and collect on the insurance. But that would be one hell of an insurance claim.

        • jsbrendog

          yeah but no insurance company is paying out anything without a thorough check up and inspection and what if he passes? insurance fraud too now?

          • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

            I mean people already call him AFraud. Wouldn’t even need a new nickname.

            • JLC 776

              I’d call that a win all around.

          • Mister D

            I’ll shoot him in the leg for $1000000.

            • Plaxico Burress

              *lurks*

      • mitch

        I’ve always agreed with this, but if he was suspended all of 2014 I don’t think it’d be such a ridiculous thought. He’d only be owed $60 mil and will not have played for two seasons (after multiple injury-filled seasons of declining play). He’d be coming back at age 40, and he’s already made like a billion dollars. Is it that crazy to think he might just walk away from it all?

        • LK

          Not many people walk away from $60M. Under any circumstances.

          • bkight13

            Dave Chappelle and Jerry Seinfeld did. McGwire also walked away when he was still making huge money. The 300m ARod has already made is important to consider.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

    I still would prefer zero game suspension and that MLB just move on, but that ain’t going to happen.

  • Chris

    For luxury tax purposes, it would be nice if he serves whatever suspension he gets next season. However, I doubt he cares about that and it may be best for him to take a plea deal and start his suspension this season (assuming they offer a deal he would accept).

    It’s quite a unique situation in that Braun will almost certainly come back and be a very productive player. ARod has ongoing hip issues, is much older, and would be insane (in my opinion) to walk away from the remaining money owed him. Since his hip is strong enough to play the field, he’s certainly got very little chance of convincing insurance companies he can no longer play.

    If ARod played for another team, I would find this whole saga interesting. Being a Yankees fan, I just find it wearying.

  • CP

    I get why MLB is so focused on Braun (challenging the testing system and getting off on a technicality), but I don’t get the issues with A-Rod. Sure, he’s and asshole and tested positive before, but so did a lot of people. It just seems like he’s an easy target to vilify so they go after him extra hard.

    • JLC 776

      The name. His name is still one of the biggest in baseball. So it gets a message across.

      Fact: there are exactly zero articles written about baseball in the last five years that don’t reference ARod’s contract at least twice.

    • Plaxico Burress

      He actually tested positive for PEDs exactly the same amount of times that Jeter, Mariano, Joe Dimaggio and Babe Ruth did – combined.

      He ADMITTED to doing them, but never pissed dirty. If he had failed a test, they’d have hung him to dry many moons ago.

      • ShawRoberVeria

        He only admitted because it was leaked he failed the ’03 test.

  • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

    Please just let this end quickly.

  • CashmanNinja

    I am done with A-Rod. I was a huge A-Rod supporter when the media was all over him years ago. I even gave him a second-chance after he “admitted” to his PED usage a couple of years ago. But enough is enough. The guy is always in the spotlight for something. It was bad enough when he was playing like garbage last year during the playoffs. It’s 1 thing if he was hurt, but to be flirting with girls in the stands during the freaking game was annoying as hell. He could have been an all-time great, but there’s no way that happens now after all of these allegations and proof. He screwed up his legacy. Yes he put up some amazing numbers, but how many weren’t aided by ‘roids? I don’t even care what punishment he gets. All I hope is that it’s long and we don’t have to pay him. I honestly wish they’d just ban him.

    • lou from the bronx

      Alex was great for us in 09 embarrassing opposing closers in the playoffs. Good times

  • lou from the bronx

    No brains all braun

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    I’m in the camp that says there’s no way in hell A-Rod hangs em up and decides not to collect on every last cent of his contract.

    But another part of this is:

    Let’s say he doesn’t make it back this year, or when he gets ready to come back he agrees to a plea deal for around 125-150 games.

    That’s going to put him at NEXT August. So he’s going to be a 39 y/o major leaguer that hasn’t played in almost 2 years when he comes back? How is that going to work?

    • hogsmog

      Very depressingly, most likely, for both his supporters and detractors.

    • Future ACE MannyGeee

      Furthermore, if he’s out for 125-150, then he’s back in July-August, then he needs to get his minor league ABs in. If thats the route, he’s cooked in 2014.

  • Reggie C.

    C’mon Arod … bargain and accept a 100 game suspension. Its not 150 so the man doesn’t miss nearly the entire first half which is imperative given the lack of 3B options in the farm and in general FA/trade market. We may never want to have a drink with Arod one-on-one, but the man can still hit above league avg for the position!!

    MLB gets to say they hit their target with a triple digit game suspension so the shot callers can say that the Biogenesis investigation yielded results.

    • Reggie C.

      And really, I’m thinking a 100 game suspension is a best case scenario at this point.

      Clearly, the sooner it happens the better…

      It’ll be a big PR win for MLB if they can suspend both Braun and Arod in the same week.

  • Hassey

    Alec baldwin interviews Gooden:
    http://www.stitcher.com/podcas.....oplay=true

  • hogsmog

    I think if it tells us anything, it tells us that Alex is looking at some sort of tangible punishment, for sure, regardless of when.

  • Duh Injuries

    The Yanks stink? I don’t think so. They’re getting their best pitching since 1985, they just need to hit better. Acquiring Soriano could help them do that. Don’t be so glum.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      The pitching has kept them over .500 that’s true, but the offensive stats are comparable with the 1967 team (adjusting for league averages etc). They do stink, especially after the fluke month of solid performance by the reanimated corpses of the likes of Prank, Ne’er-do-Wells and Overpaid. Now we get SoriaNO, another creaky old guy with mediocre numbers. Admittedly, he’s heated up recently, and let’s hope that continues but I’m not putting any money on it. This year is a bust. Question is what’s the plan for 2014?

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

        “This year is a bust”

        This year can’t be a bust, the vast majority of people expected us to be at or slightly above .500

        That’s exactly what’s happened.

        • Rolling Doughnut

          Stupid exercise in semantics. Try again.

          • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

            You’re writing on an online message board. Choose your language better if you don’t want people arguing semantics.

            • Rolling Doughnut

              Fair enough. I do not define bust to be what the “vast majority” of people think a team’s record will be; rather, I use the record itself as the criterion. For example, even though the vast majority of us think Houston sucks, but I would still consider their season a bust.

      • Future ACE MannyGeee

        Hopefully the plan for 2104 is better witty nicknames from Rolling Doughnut, because those were utter shit.

        • Rolling Doughnut

          Well, at least I can write in complete sentences. Oh, and we’ll be dead in 2104, like the current Yankee lineup.

          • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

            BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN.

  • Greg

    You can be sure about one thing – whatever A(Fraud) does, it will be solely for his benefit – he certainly won’t be talking to the NYY’s about it, or trying to figure out what is best for the team.

  • Darren

    I hope like hell Arod doesn’t serve even one game.

  • your mom

    Okay enough is enough.

    1. Arod won’t retire.

    2. We won’t become sellers and rebuild.

    3. We aren’t making the playoffs.

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

      1. Yup
      2. Yup
      3. Can you tell me other certainties with that crystal ball of yours so I can go make some money?

    • trr

      (sighs)

  • gageagainstthemachine

    Meanwhile, the Brewers front office is laughing their collective asses off…
    “So, wait you’re telling me our guy being suspended is already hurt and can’t play, we’re not even close to the playoff picture anyways, AND the guarantee of our best player not being here the rest of the season keeps increasing our chances at a better and better pick in the draft with each passing remaining game?! You’re kidding, right?! Thanks Bud Selig, you came through for your hometown once again! We can always count on you!”

    • Captain

      it was ridiculous that MLB was commending Braun for accepting the suspension. I really doubt any other player involved in this Biogenisis stuff gets that treatment.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    I can’t wait to see Aroid explanation of his PED use in his press conference of shame part deux. It should be a doozy.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    All things considered, I think Braun got off easy. He really is a lying sack of shit especially for his comments about Dino Laurenzi which were completely unnecessary and inappropriate especially considering he knew he cheated.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....-laurenzi/

    • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

      Completely agree. If he hadn’t sullied the guy or gone on such a sanctimonious Not Me WTF? tour then I’d be okay with the 65 games. But given the broader context, and how much it helps the Brewers (he’s hurt, they’re not contending, they save money, better draft pick, etc) I think he got of waaaaaaay to easily.

  • cheddar

    Great read on this whole nonsense:

    http://reason.com/archives/201.....th-the-fed

  • bill

    I feel more sorry for Vicki and Betty Lizard than I do for Arod or Ryan Braun or Bud Selig, that’s for sure

  • Steve Howe

    It’s not like I was snorting blow off the pitcher’s mound during my warm-ups… and these jack-holes keep getting to come back when what they did was to intentionally cheat the game?! If I weren’t already dead from my own vices, I’d be ordering a Scotch on the Rocks and scoring an 8 ball off the corner right now to try and drown my sorrows of this PED nonsense.

    • jsbrendog

      well, didn’t you also carry around an unregistered hand gun with which you also tried to fly as well as exhibit violent and/or mental illness tendencies?

  • jjyank

    I know I’m in the minority, but I don’t A-Rod to be suspended at all.

    • mitch

      i don’t either, but that just seems so unlikely at this point. If he does get suspended i hope it’s for all of next year so they can recoup some money and have the whole off season to plan. If the three options were 1) Braun suspension 2) 2014 suspension 3) no suspension i’d pick 3 followed by 2.

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      Don’t you think he should be punished for what he did?

      • jjyank

        I really don’t care. I’m just so over the PED stuff at this point.

        He’s a Yankee. He might make the team better. I want him on the field.

        • WhittakerWalt

          I’ve been defending him, off and on, for ages. But eventually it just gets to be too much. The fact that he did it AGAIN, after all the mea culpas, after all the “I’ve learned my lessons,” after redeeming himself in 2009, it’s too much. He’s a liar and a creep and he cares nothing about playing by the rules.

          • Manny’s BanWagon

            This.

            I get he’s a Yankee and the primary objective is for the team to win but this stuff shouldn’t be ignored.

            If it was Papi and it was swept under the rug, Yankee fans would be up in arms.

            • WhittakerWalt

              Of course, Papi’s shit does get swept under the rug, but that’s a story for another day.

        • bkight13

          His contract is hurting the team and his performance will never be what it was pre-PED and the injuries that have followed. He is a joke and needs to be gone. I wouldn’t want Aaron Hernandez just because he’s a really good TE.

          • WhittakerWalt

            OK, that’s a BIT of an overstatement. ARod’s crimes, while numerous, were just a result of him trying to be a better baseball player.
            He didn’t kill anybody.

  • cheddar

    Where else in our society does a drug dealer get to cut a deal to rat out his users?

    • WhittakerWalt

      This is pretty much the only situation where the users are bigger names than the dealers. It’s always about catching the biggest fish.

    • bkight13

      Sammy the Bull Gravano killed 19 people and got less than 5 years because he gave up John Gotti.

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        Good work if you can get it.

  • Hall and Nokes

    So if I understand this, a suspension for all of 2014 would free up all of the cap space that Alex currently occupies? How much is that? Isn’t his AAV higher than what he is paid at this point?

  • http://aidanfromworcester.com aidanfromworcester

    Classic jew hunt. Braun is obviously a huge douche though. Surprisingly my fiancé has never heard of him.

    http://aidanfromworcester.com/.....b-players/

    • Hall and Nokes

      “No, not ‘did you take PEDs?’, but ‘Jew take PEDs?’ Jew? Get it?”