Jul
26

Game 103: The Return of Soriano

By

Alfonso Soriano-002

Nine years and five months ago, the Yankees traded Alfonso Soriano (and Joaquin Arias) to the Rangers for Alex Rodriguez. Today, Soriano makes his return to New York after being acquired from the Cubs for a minor league right-hander Corey Black.

The Yankees were — and still are, really — desperate for power, particularly from the right side, which is why Soriano made sense. He’s a flawed player, no doubt about it, but the Bombers needed another guy who can put runs on the board with one swing of the bat. Having only one player who can do that is no way to go through life in a small ballpark in the AL East. Here’s the lineup that will face right-hander Jeremy Hellickson:

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. LF Alfonso Soriano
  5. 1B Lyle Overbay
  6. SS Eduardo Nunez
  7. DH Travis Hafner
  8. 3B Brent Lillibridge
  9. C Austin Romine

Soriano’s return is the big story, but the Yankees really need a strong outing from tonight’s starter, left-hander CC Sabathia. The team’s nominal ace has a 5.19 ERA and 4.37 FIP in his last eleven starts, which includes 14 (!) homers allowed in 76.1 innings. He needs to be better and he knows it. Tonight would be a good night to start being better.

It’s a little cloudy outside but the weather is fine in New York. High-70s/low-80s with some humidity and no threat of rain. Pretty good baseball weather. First pitch is scheduled for 7:05pm ET and can be seen on My9. Enjoy.

Roster Updates: Obviously, the Soriano trade is official. He will wear #12 with Vernon Wells switching to #22 … Thomas Neal was sent back to Triple-A Scranton to clear a 25-man roster spot for Soriano. The team already had an open 40-man roster spot.

Injury Updates: Alex Rodriguez (quad) did non-baseball activity today and will progress to fielding drills and soft-toss hitting tomorrow … Derek Jeter (quad) continued to hit and run the bases today. He’s scheduled for a check-up and another workout tomorrow. If all goes well, he could come off the DL on Saturday, the first day he’s eligible … Frankie Cervelli (hand) has some soreness and will be re-evaluated.

Categories : Game Threads
  • forensic

    Another day, another pitiful utility IFer heading to Scranton, only to be one weird step away from joining the Yankees.

    They’re going to be broke after paying for all the WS rings after this year.

    • trr

      That be the case, I’d be happy to take up a collection!

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    It’s interesting that the money in the Soriano deal wasn’t structured to minimize luxury tax impact next year.

    Does this mean the Yankees have given up on $189M in 2014?

    Or are the Yankees nearing the limits of what they’re willing to spend this season, and giving themselves less flexibility in the $189M plan next year to save some money this year?

    • trr

      I’m taking a wait and see attitude on that whole 189m thing. If we finish poorly this year ( hope not) cutting payroll might be a tough sell.

    • forensic

      Or are the Yankees nearing the limits of what they’re willing to spend this season, and giving themselves less flexibility in the $189M plan next year to save some money this year?

      Unfortunately, I have no reason to believe it’s not this, which is certainly a bad sign already.

      But hey, they have their OF and (possibly) DH already set for next year’s team, that’s exciting…

  • Jay

    Anyone know the last time the Yankees had a home run?

    • forensic

      The 7th inning of the last game before the ASB.

    • ropeadope

      Wasn’t it Ichiro prior to the All Star break?

  • nsalem

    Tough match-up. CC better come up big. Longoria and Rodriguez have been killing Sabathia.

  • The Real Greg

    So the Yankees have actually outscored the Rays this year in head to head matchups. You know Suzyn,….

    • forensic

      No they haven’t.

      • The Real Greg

        New York and Tampa have split ten games this year with the Yankees outscoring their division rivals 44-38. No, really

        From the preview by Axisa

        • forensic

          Mike is wrong. They’ve split the 10 games but the Rays have the scoring advantage 44-38.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          Those numbers appear to be backwards.

          • The Real Greg

            Okay

  • forensic

    I sat Zobrist on my fantasy team for this game, so feel free to go out and throw a no-hitter CC!

    • forensic

      Well, shit…

    • Gonzo

      Zobrist has been kinda disappointing this year in fantasy. Let’s hope he disappoints this series too.

  • Karl Krawfid

    CC got away with a hanger.

    • The Real Greg

      He did but K’s Longo

      • The Real Greg

        And then Myers

  • Darren

    It would be pretty swell to get a great start from CC and a couple of dingers. We’re certainly due for a tide little 5-0 win, on the way to a sweep.

    For you youngsters, we were 14.5 games back on August 1st in ’78 and we won the World Series. No reason we can’t claw back from 6 back.

    • RetroRob

      That ’78 team was not fielding the lineups we’ve been seeing from the ’13 Yankees! Hopefully the return of Jeter, Granderson and the trade for Soriano will put the offense in the right direction.

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      Everyone is also hell bent that the Red Sox are for real. There is as good a chance that they fall to earth (with very little pitching and riding career years from a couple of highly unlikely guys…) as them finishing with 100 wins.

  • Former ACE MannyGeee

    CC has a string and QUICK 1-2-3 inning. Here’s to 8 more

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      STRONG, not string. Fat fingers.

      • Pat D

        Old, fat fingers.

        • Former ACE MannyGeee

          Definitely not young fingers.

          • Former ACE MannyGeee

            These fingers have seen some shit….

            #nohomo

  • Eddard

    This is a must win series. They’ve got some pop now in the cleanup spot. CC needs to step up.

  • vicki

    pretty sure you meant ‘eagerly’, michael.

    • RetroRob

      Yeah, I don’t know what he was trying to say there, but my guess is he picked the wrong word.

  • Eddard

    Jesus Christ. That almost took his head off.

  • Pat D

    Wow. I’m really glad he caught that.

  • Wheels

    What number did Soriano choose?

    • RetroRob

      12

    • forensic

      Roster Updates: Obviously, the Soriano trade is official. He will wear #12 with Vernon Wells switching to #22 …

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      12 from Wells, I heard they made a deal.

    • Wheels

      Thanks fellas.

  • Former ACE MannyGeee

    Wow, lucky play from Hellickson

  • EndlessJose

    Wheels:

    22

  • ExitCashman

    Does Soriano run to first base on a dropped third strike at his advanced age?

  • nsalem

    Rodriguez open base

  • The Real Greg

    Location failure once again

  • The Real Greg

    That’s another hanger. That’s 3 he’s thrown, 2 for outs.

  • Eddard

    CC hasn’t done a damn thing to improve. He’s lucky it’s not 2-0 now.

  • forensic

    If his location is as bad a John and Suzyn are making it out to be, then that 5.19ERA for CC is only going to go up quite a bit.

    • The Real Greg

      And it does

  • Former ACE MannyGeee

    How did Sorianos throw look? I don’t remember if he’s got an arm or not.

  • RetroRob

    If CC’s command is off because of something mechanical in his delivery, then that could also impact velocity.

    Whatever, but hopefully he eventually figures it out.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Hanging everything.

    CC is cooked.

  • Cy Pettitte

    CC is throwing BP

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores

    CC, as per recent tradition, look pretty bad. And the Yanks, as per recent edition, gave up a run within the first three innings.

    Ho hum.

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

      CC does look bad, but almost every pitcher gives up a run within the first 3 innings.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores

        Anecdotally, this has been a really bad trend with the Yankees lately.

  • The Real Greg

    He is in Mike Mussina land right now. Needs to learn how to pitch with less velocity

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Velocity hasn’t been his issue.

      • The Real Greg

        Eh 91 consistent. When he was throwing 93 consistent, he could get away with bad location. Can’t do it now. Also effects the offspeed pitches.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          91-94
          Hanging sliders get hit at any velocity.

  • BigBlueAL

    Jesus Christ, every pitch CC leaves up is getting absolutely crushed.

  • Former ACE MannyGeee

    CC is serving up some fatness…

  • Leg-End

    One in three is hanging right now, come on CC sort it.

  • RetroRob

    CC needs to eat more Captain Crunch.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    awful CC is awful

  • Karl Krawfid

    Trash

  • The Real Greg

    Now that one was not CCs fault. That was a blooper

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      on a fastball down the middle

      • The Real Greg

        Still a blooper.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          Bad pitches generally result in bad outcomes.

  • forensic

    Geez CC…

  • The Real Greg

    And he is cooked. And the worst part is that you can’t blame the Yankees for resigning him at the time.

    • forensic

      Sure you can. There were reasons to sign him, but there were also plenty of reasons to be concerned and not re-commit big money to him at that point.

  • Eddard

    So bad. Just take him out and put in Warren. CC is the biggest bust of the season.

  • Leg-End

    The wheels are coming off early again.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    fucking ridiculous

  • Karl Krawfid

    Turning this shit off.

    Have a nice day folks.

  • Former ACE MannyGeee

    Son of a…

    I wonder if the big man is hurt. Because this shit is getting a little out of hand

  • Cy Pettitte

    well this game is over. CC is such trash.

  • RetroRob

    Depressing start here.

  • The Real Greg

    Shall I call the game?

  • stuart a

    1 and 2/3 innings how many mistakes so far for CC? 3 or 4.. single to FUld is a killer.

    no idea what is going on with this guy.. he threw at least 3 pitches 94 mph..

    train wreck. CC cannot field so that hurts also…

  • ExitCashman

    CC won’t come out until he’s thrown 100.

  • forensic

    Well, this is terrific.

  • Eddard

    If Phelps or Pineda was inserted into the rotation for CC the staff ERA would instantly get better. Those first two guys cost a couple pennies, CC costs $20 million and is a big fat bust.

  • Cy Pettitte

    god dammit I fucking hate this fat peace of shit.

  • Leg-End

    5 runs…..oh boy.

  • forensic

    Are you serious right now CC???

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores

    If the Yankees are buying, they damn well better buy more than Soriano. Otherwise, why buy? Just sell, it’ll help you way more in the long run. Sori is a nice pick-up but very, very far from a difference maker in all likelihood.

  • stuart a

    why would the yanks be caught off guard? cc and pettitte cannot field..

    5 runs for fatty… train wreck…AGAIN

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Warren please

  • Revan

    I feel bad for the fans. Might as well leave now.

  • forensic

    Was that booing for CC I heard in the background on the radio?

    • Smithers

      No, they were saying Boo-urns.

  • BigBlueAL

    Tampa is just so much better than the Yankees its not even funny.

  • Eddard

    BOO HIM OFF THE FIELD! YANK HIM, GIRARDI! PUT IN WARREN!!!!!!

  • Dave M

    CC really should just retire

  • Cy Pettitte

    fucking boo. this is ridiculous.

  • Leg-End

    Well thats the batting practice out of the way, whens the game start?

  • forensic

    Thank you for that gift Myers.

  • Revan

    Phantom DL Sabathia or something. But knowing Girardi he’ll ride him to 120 pitches again.

    • rich

      He should ride him, maybe he can get injured or something and he’ll be done for the season. His ERA is nearing 5.

  • RetroRob

    Six runs in two innings. That is, ummm, not good.

    Yet I feel a win. Perhaps it’s the wine.

    • ropeadope

      Can’t spell wine without win.

    • vicki

      that’s a lotta wine.

  • forensic

    Hope Warren ate his Wheaties this morning.

  • OldYanksFan

    So….. anything good on TV tonight?

  • stuart a

    Game is over BTW…

    they cannot score so this game is OVER….

  • Eddard

    Soriano ain’t gonna score 5 runs. CC needs to go. He’s not helping the club. Pineda or Phelps could do better for a fraction of the cost.

  • Former ACE MannyGeee

    Wow, that fucking sucked

  • The Real Greg

    Well that was quick.

    Again, I will ask, should the Yankees have resigned him at the time?

    • forensic

      I was actually slightly on the side of being against re-signing him.

      • The Real Greg

        So you didn’t want him back? It’s interesting because at the time it seemed like a necessity.

        Of course if the Yankees had the pitching development like Tampa Bay, it wouldn’t be.

        • forensic

          Just slightly. I totally understand why they did re-sign him, and can’t question it a ton, but the concerns I (and some others) had have shown up the last 2 seasons or so.

  • ExitCashman

    Wow, game over before Alfonso hits

  • stuart a

    you cannot throw the ball down the middle of the plate period.

    how many did CC throw right down the middle of the playe that inning?

    5 or 6 pitches…

  • RetroRob

    Six-run HR, please, Sori.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      bust

  • ClayDavis

    CC completely ruining Soriano’s return

  • Realist

    Game over and lets face it the chances of the playoffs are slim to none with this team.

    SELL SELL SELL

  • blech

    Another big steaming pile of poo left on the mound by Sabathia.

  • Frank

    CC is fading real fast- like falling off a cliff fast. And Yanks have him for 4 more years? Yikes.

    • The Real Greg

      Again, the Mike Mussina problem.
      Took Mussina a long time to pitch with a lower velocity.

      • LK

        Mike Mussina FBv and FIP, 2002 – 2008:
        89.2, 3.64
        89.6, 3.09
        88.7, 3.95
        88.3, 4.01
        88.6, 3.46
        87.1, 4.01
        86.4, 3.32

        The Mussina narrative is overblown in my opinion. He didn’t so much “learn how to pitch with lower velocity” so much as he “had a .340 BABIP in 2007 and then was awesome his last year.”

        There’s also the fact that CC’s velocity has gotten better as the season has progressed, and his results have gotten worse at the same time.

  • Gonzo

    Well that was quick.

  • RetroRob

    CC getting spanked.

    Unnecessary imaging, Michael.

  • Kramerica Industries

    I never really thought I’d see the day where Sabathia was this fucking awful.

    I mean, even the most optimistic people can’t defend this shit right now. Sabathia is legitimately pitching like a minor leaguer right now. Doesn’t even give the Yankees a chance to win the games he starts.

    • The Real Greg

      But the question is why. That is the key.

  • forensic

    John and Suzyn are about one step short of comparing Soriano to a Pujols in his prime. At least they’re not going overboard on his impact.

  • Eddard

    CC’s problem isn’t the lower velocity, it’s the location. He’s leaving every ball up. Andy’s pitching better than him and he doesn’t throw 90. If we do make the playoffs here’s our rotation-

    Kuroda
    Nova
    Hughes
    Andy

    Cut Boone Logan and make CC a $20 million LOOGY.

  • stuart a

    his velocity is still very good. the gun said 94 a few times last inning…

    it is location…and his change is 86, it would be better at 84

  • The Real Greg

    It’s like watching a gigantic train wreck. Seeing the Rays and their EXCELLENT FARM SYSTEM thriving while the Yankees and their CRAPPY FARM SYSTEM struggles.

    • rich

      The Rays are this decades Oakland. All that slurping and no rings. And this year the same thing will happen.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Because rings really tell the whole story.

        • rich

          That’s how we identify winners and losers. They have the same amount of titles during this span as Oakland did during their span last decade.

          • WhittakerWalt

            The playoffs are a crapshoot and the Rays have a much better farm system than the Yankees do. Sorry if you disagree because RINGS.

            • Gonzalo Hiram

              I’d rather have the worst farm system and continue winning rings anytime

              • WhittakerWalt

                Except we have a crappy farm system and aren’t in danger of winning anything any time soon.

    • stuart a

      be horrible for 5 years get david price with the first pick longoria with the 3rd pick, etc..

      • The Real Greg

        That’s gone by the wayside though. We are past that era.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          All/most of the homegrown guys they have now are a direct result of that era.

          • The Real Greg

            Not for the last 6 years.

            And even if they have had high picks in the first round, but they have had success late too. Matt Moore was an 8th round pick in the Price draft.

            Desmond Jennings 10th round etc.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

              Not for the last 6 years.

              Huh?
              What’s not from the last 6 years. Look at when their good players were drafted.

              • The Real Greg

                I know that. But then I said that even in the drafts where they had high picks, a lot of their players have not come from the first round.

                • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                  Which has nothing to do with “Not for the last 6 years”

      • JobaWockeeZ

        I don’t know if you learned to count or anything but those are only two players. Most of their high round selections actually busted.

        The rest of their team are late first rounders to double digit rounders.

        I blame Cano though.

    • Brian S.

      The Yankees have a decent farm system. Fantastic depth but lack of top 100 prospects to hang with the top 10 farms in the game.

  • Tom

    The really frustrating thing?

    It was 1-0 with 2 out and Jose Lobaton and Sam Fuld coming up. And once again CC struggles with the bottom of the order.

    CC is 30% worse than league average against the 7-9 hitters this year.

    • rich

      I swear I think he is tipping pitches. As well as location. These hitters, especially the lefties are just way too comfortable out there

  • Pasta

    Seriously we can not let CC go out there every fivevdays and throw batting practice.
    Quick hook burnett rules need apply.

  • JLC 776

    Complete garbage. I think CC can learn to be an effective pitcher again, but nothing worries me more than the fact that he is goin through this transition right before we lose half of the rotation in 2014. We need to hold onto Hughes.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      They need upper rotation starters. They have enough back end guys.

  • Curtis Hennig

    Well, that was a depressing inning.

    At least when the team was horribly underperforming last year, there was something to get angry about – that stupid streaky Swisher! goddamn that Granderson, and his batting average! Tex, maybe just maybe you could try not pulling the ball sometime, considering how teams leave the other side of the field completely open against you; etc.

    This team is just sad. I can’t hate the pitchers, even when they fuck up, because they’ve been really good generally. I can’t hate the players, either…they’re pitiful, but utility players, old DHs, and AAA players are supposed to be pitiful when they have to play every day. It’s not Jayson Nix’s fault that he’s starting. Lyle Overbay is bad, but he’s not as bad as somebody saying ‘Teixeira is injured again? Oh, no big deal, I am sure he will be fine and back by May. But just in case we’ll get a dependable backup…Kevin Youkilis, maybe? Okay, I think my work is done, we’re set for the year.’

  • stuart a

    does michael kay even look a the radar gun?

    is he thick?

    he is not only at 91 mph

  • WhittakerWalt

    Is this shit really happening?

    • The Real Greg

      Its been happening for awhile.

      • WhittakerWalt

        I know. I’ve been arguing for two months that people have been giving CC a pass. Every time he gives up 6 runs we hear an excuse parade for how half those runs weren’t “real” runs. Will that happen today? Only time will tell.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    He’s got nothing.
    Let Warren pitch.

    • The Real Greg

      He’ll get to pitch, don’t worry.

      The game is already over so there’s no need to worry about that

  • Pasta

    Sabathia needs a dl stint call it a
    Get ready for it
    QUAD. lol

  • Kramerica Industries

    Holy shit are the people at SUN Sports pretentious morons.

    This network NEVER does game breaks (you know; showing highlights from another live game), but they whip it out tonight when the Rays have a chance to move into 1st place.

    You know, for fucks sake, the Rays have won two division titles since 2008. Act like you’ve been there before.

  • Leg-End

    Can’t buy an out.

  • HateMclouth (formerly I’mVernon)

    Wow. 6 runs and its only the 3rd. CC really getting hammered by the Rays this year. And yet hasn’t his velocity picked up lately? What is going on…

  • Cy Pettitte

    maybe his foot is hurt, he should skip 4 or 5 starts

  • vicki

    not hurt? bad beat.

  • ExitCashman

    10-0 before CC goes…

  • number 21

    Not another big inning please.

  • stuart a

    sabathia does not field his postion that was ok when you have a under 1 WHIP, that is no longer the case.

    he does not hold runners, and he cannot field..Hiroki and Mussina were the exact opposite…

    wow this is getting incredibly ugly, the bile on this site tonight may be epic…

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Romine isn’t doing well to earn more pt.

  • Wheels

    I would be pissed if I paid a lot for tickets to this game.

  • John

    there has to be something wrong with CC .. i just cant seem to understand how he has gotten so bad so fast

  • Kramerica Industries

    Honestly, the sadist in me is hoping for C.C.’s ERA to reach 5 at this point.

    Just for the sheer hilarity of it all.

    • forensic

      I was actually looking to see what it would take to get there. 5 ER this inning without getting an out. Unlikely, but if they just keep him out there, who knows.

      Either way, he’ll certainly have a chance to get there next time out.

  • Cy Pettitte

    why is he still in this game? this is just stupid.

    • Leg-End

      Let him eat it, games over. Save the pen.

  • forensic

    Yeah, just leave him in there. Clearly he’s figuring it out…

    • The Real Greg

      You can when your offense gives you no hope to score 6 runs period and therefore end the game in the second inning.

  • Tom

    3-1 changeup to Yunel Escobar?

    Hard to pitch effectively when you have zero confidence in your fastball. All 3 walks are on chageups.

  • The Real Greg

    I actually have thought about that theory. If him losing his weight threw his mechanics out of whack. because he was so used to pitching with a lot of girth

  • JonS

    So what to do about CC? Clearly the #NotAnAce things is solidified now, but even worse, he’s not even a 2. He’s been pitching like a low 3-4.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      ERA well over 5 over the past 13 starts.
      He’s been pitching like a bad 5.

    • Wheels

      He needs to do the Rocky III training montage with Apollo Creed to get his groove back.

    • forensic

      His ERA is now 5.67 in his last 13 starts. That’s not even close to a 3-4. That’s the kind of thing that would get you sent to AAA as a younger player and maybe released (or demoted to the bullpen) as a cheaper, older player.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Or traded to Pittsburg for a bag of balls.

        • forensic

          True.

  • RetroRob

    …perfect setup for the grand slam HR from the Legend of Sam Fuld.

  • RetroRob

    CC will not give up a run for the rest of the year.

    This wine is good.

  • Shittyshittybangbang

    It’s called a “change-up” ! You see, what you do is grip the ball all the way in the palm of your hand, wrap your fingers loosely around baseball …., and then release it like a fastball. Desired effect is to keep hitters off balance. Example ? See The Rays rotation. They’re taught this pitch from day one.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      CC’s thrown 15 so far.

  • HateMclouth (formerly I’mVernon)

    Its a minor miracle they got out of that without giving up any more runs.

  • Mike Stanley

    WAY TO HOLD ‘EM AT 6-0 CEESE, HANG WITH EM

  • stuart a

    he is in a pitching slump. all the hits were bad pitches over the plate the guy is not throwing 88.. he has thrown how many pitches at 93 or more? 10 or 12??

    you cannot throw the ball down the middle of the plate.

  • The Real Greg

    E. Get injured again

  • Kramerica Industries

    Yay for no perfect game/no hitter.

  • Crime Dog

    I think they’re just doing Soriano a favor. Showing him what being with the team’s like now. Tomorrow they’ll win 2-1 with all singles. He’s gotta see the ups and downs obviously.

  • Mike Stanley

    Soriano having his first AB with his team down 6-0 is something he’s used to after the last 10 years.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Yay for no shutout.

  • RetroRob

    DFA Stewart.

  • forensic

    Start the comeback!!!

    • forensic

      And nice to see Girardi actually play Romine again instead of just instinctively putting Stewart back in.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Not a shutout!!!!

  • number 21

    Romine hitting the ball well at least.

  • Wheels

    Well, good to see Romine continue with his good hitting.

  • Mike Stanley

    Hey, play a rookie through struggles and they may come out of it, WHAT A CONCEPT

    /Yankees’d
    //Unlike every other org

  • Elton Cod

    There was so much scrappiness to that run. Brent Lillibridge is an American hero. He may not be very good, but he knows how to poke one into the gap and then hustle to second on a ball in the dirt. He manufactures runs, like Americans manufacture cars.

    • Lukaszek

      But then Detroit happens to America, and now you can’t manufacture runs no more. The Yankees have essentially become Detroit.

  • forensic

    Romine’s off the interstate too.

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Cashman Failed

    $100 million and 4 miserable years left on cc’s contract

    • stuart a

      i am sure you were against resigning CC…

      I will fetch your blog comment to that affect right now!!!

      CLOWN

      • Former ACE MannyGeee

        Yeah, CC wasn’t worth the money… Said nobody ever. And when he opted out and re-signed he was far and away the best pitcher we’d seen in pinstripes since Clemens. Yeah, he was.

  • Elton Cod

    This is the beginning of the comeback. We are going to get 8 more consecutive singles and tie the game up.

  • Crime Dog

    Josh Pettitte (Andy’s son) tweeted that David Cone needs to “stop commenting on Yankee games”. Does anyone actually feel that way? I think Cone is one of the better announcers on YES, maybe even the best color guy.

    • Wheels

      Josh Pettite needs to stop tweeting.

      • Crime Dog

        Well, yea haha. Only reason I saw it is because someone RT it into my timeline.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Let’s be honest. There’s not a lot of brains in the Pettitte family.
        Coney’s a fucking brilliant broadcaster.

    • rich

      Cone makes the broadcast a respectable one. He and Singleton should do the broadcast for every game IMO

      • stuart a

        agree.. kay has no clue; the count, velocity, etc.

        no clue..

    • forensic

      I think he’s pretty overrated, personally. Not a big fan of him calling games. I know that’s the minority opinion here though.

    • Eddard

      Josh Pettitte is a clown who obviously didn’t learn about class from his father. Cone is well respected and knows what he’s talking about. He doesn’t need some 20 year old telling him that he can’t talk.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Already zapped the tweet too, it appears.

      Stupid kids and their social media tendencies. I’ll never get it. I’m not exactly an older person myself, but I at least know that hell to not say.

  • Dan

    Crasnick is reporting that the Phills will listen to offers on Lee. Do you guys think the Yanks should go after him? There’s a good chance that Hughes, Pettitte and Kuroda will all be gone next year. There aren’t any other frontline SPs available. If there’s a $189 cap, they could still be under due to those 3 SPs being off the books. If there’s no cap, then it’s really no issue, and anyway he’s only signed for 2 more years and a vesting option.

    If I’m the Yankees, I’d be willing to give up DePaula, Austin and a mid level prospect and take on a bulk of his salary. Would that be enough?

    • Crime Dog

      I’m ok with not taking on another massive contract, especially for an older pitcher. Even though Lee is a boss.

      • Dan

        One thing to remember with Lee, is that he hasn’t logged that many innings for his age. He’s pitched over 700 less innings than CC, despite being a year older.

        Plus, there could be some money as part of the trade. Say $5 million per year. That would put him at $20 million for each of the next two years he’s under contract (which I think is pretty reasonable for him, even with his age). They could probably put all of the salary relief to next year and get him for $15 million, which would be great value, especially with the goal of $189m.

    • stuart a

      pass. another over 33 year old pitcher..

      you insane…NO

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      I think I’d roll the dice on Pineda and a bunch of kids along with CC over that kind of contract. I always thought we dodged a bullet with Cliff Lee’s contract. He’s been decidedly not worth that kind of money.

      • FIPster Doofus

        Lee has been excellent since signing that contract. He’s elite.

  • forensic

    Suzyn: “He’s still got that big, heavy bat.”

    Apparently she didn’t bother to follow anything that happened last year.

  • RetroRob

    No one is wondering why the Yankees need a RH’d power hitter, Michael.

    • Vernon Wells

      But what about me?

  • The Real Greg

    Failure Cashman

    /obligatory

  • Kramerica Industries

    And thus ends the tease.

    • The Real Greg

      Eh, not really a tease because of the deficit

      • Kramerica Industries

        A base hit would’ve made it 6-3, and, #Yankees0ffense or not, that’s a ballgame.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    /shouldhavegotRiosinstead

    • The Real Greg

      Not even worth the joke because the Yankees were never going to get Rios.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        that is the joke

  • WhittakerWalt

    At this point the best thing we can hope for from CC is to get his bat into the lineup more often. At least there’s the chance he’ll run into one every now and then, which is more than can be said for the rest of this godforsaken team.

  • forensic

    What an awesome trade!

    :-)

  • The Real Greg

    Although he looked pretty good in that at bat. He didn’t chase pitched like he used to.

  • Wheels

    Shucks Alfonso.

  • your mom

    Hellickson with the gutsy 3-2 change-up. Props to him, it worked out.

    • The Real Greg

      It’s his best pitch, that’s why he threw it. That’s why that out was more about Hellickson than Soriano.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Yeah. If a guy has the nerve to throw a 3-2 changeup and gets you, that’s just nails. Not much you can do about that.

  • stuart a

    swisher with his 11th tonight 33 rbi’s. hitting 245, he is a nice complimentary player.

    you think cleveland will regret that $50 mill deal? Nah, he is good in the clubhouse!!!!

    • Brian S.

      Plus he’ll be clutch for them if they make the playoffs.

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      I am absolutely shocked he’s playing as bad as he is. That said, woulda loved to have him back, just not at $50M

  • stuart a

    btw no 1 discussing hellickson at 92 on his fastball, how can he win at that speed???

    oh, shit…i forgot location matters in pitching and real estate.

  • Kramerica Industries

    That SI cover just reminds me of the irritation that was the end of Soriano’s, and the Yankees, 2002 season.

    Sori was sitting at 39 HR with 11 games to go, and started swinging away trying to get to 40/40. Instead, in addition to not hitting #40, the guy became an out machine down the stretch, and in the playoff series against the Angels. Really, it still remains a sore spot that a 103 win team crapped out in four games in the ALDS. At least it was against another legitimately good team, I guess. Those 2002 AL playoff teams were all 95+ win teams.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Soriano was not the Yankees biggest problem in that series. The Angels setting a postseason record for hitting was the problem. Our pitching stunk.

      • Kramerica Industries

        He wasn’t the biggest problem at all. Didn’t really try to say that. He just didn’t help.

        But, yeah, holy shit. The 8th inning meltdown in Game 2, blowing a 6-1 lead in Game 3, and then the 9-run inning in Game 4? That series was a fucking nightmare. Fucking Rally Monkey.

        • WhittakerWalt

          Soriano really shit the bed the next year in the WS against Florida. He was a fucking automatic out, and was swinging at literally anything.

    • BigBlueAL

      Soriano hit a HR in Game 2 vs K-Rod that woouldve won the game if it wasnt for El Duque blowing it in the 8th inning.

  • The Real Greg

    That seems to be another issue with CC. One very shitty inning and then he’s fine.

  • Shittyshittybangbang

    And then, to boot…., H.P. ump is calling strikes on balls a foot outside to Yankee lefty’s. great receiving by Lobaton, but as a consequence, Ichiro had to swing at a “ball” a foot outside. Smart pitcher.

  • Kramerica Industries

    More baserunners. Hellickson’s doing all he can to rescue the Yankees in this game.

    Hey, you know. Take advantage of it.

  • nsalem

    I think Hafner is due

    • your mom

      Due to be DFA.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    not a strike

  • The Real Greg

    That was not a strike

  • The Real Greg

    Such a piece of garbage.

  • The Real Greg

    That Ibanez Hafner switch, in hindsight of course, was probably the worst move of the offseason.

    • stuart a

      true and historic. i would bet Ibanez finishes bad but we will see.

      24 homners, the yanks could not use those…

      i would have signed hafner and let Ibanez walk also..baseball hard to predict..

      • Brian S.

        I’m glad we don’t have those 24 home runs. Because you can’t hit those in the playoffs.

        • Kramerica Industries

          lol at you, directly or indirectly, being pro-Ibanez here.

          You trashed the shit out of him all season last year, even after he hit the 8th inning grand slam against the Blue Jays.

          • Brian S.

            I don’t want Ibanez on the team. I’m just saying we don’t need home runs.

          • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

            Shit… I remember that… was at the game.

    • Tom

      Russell Martin?

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      In hindsight, sure… On paper I loved the move, but the regression to the mean has been a real bitch.

  • stuart a

    the ball 3 to hafner called a strike 2, killed..

    hafner is looking to get DFA’d in about a week..

    any complaints about hellickson under 92 velocity? nope…

  • Nathan

    I hope CC works on his stuff this off-season and gets his s### straight. I don’t think he can pull up mid-season so I think this CC is what we’re going to have all year.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    Maybe CC is on the biogenesis list and the Yankees could void his contract too.

    • stuart a

      yep that is why he is so muscular…

      also that is not part of the agreement so no chance.

      the loney hit was right over the plate and a changeup…

      michael kay is a moron… again more pitches this inning 93…

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Danny Knobler
    ?@DannyKnoblerCBS
    Updating that note: Only pitcher in majors to allow 7-plus runs in 3 consecutive starts this year: CC Sabathia.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      always good to be a league leader

  • Former ACE MannyGeee

    So, looked like I didn’t miss much while I went to drown my sorrows next door, huh…

    • Shittyshittybangbang

      Yeah, I did the same. Tuned into “Ted” for 20 minutes, fucking hilarious ! That is, of course, as New Englanders go. I needed that !

  • yeayo

    Why is CC still pitching? Does he need to reach a 100 pitches before being pulled? The second he started shitting the bed, CC should have been taken out. Now we are in 6 run hole which is practically game over with this team.

  • Kramerica Industries

    At least the Red Sox are losing?

    I mean, is this the better scenario this weekend?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      I’d think a wildcard spot would be much more realistic.

      • Kramerica Industries

        It seems like the Orioles are trending up and the Sox are trending down, at the moment. Wouldn’t be shocked if Boston fell into the 2nd wild card spot soon. They’ll fall into the 1st wild card spot after tonight.

    • Kramerica Industries

      The unequivocally good outcome is seeing Lackey pitch like shit.

  • stuart a

    still 1 run.. had chnces a bunch of times but nope..

    the usual…

  • SDB

    Meanwhile, for those of us who have CC on their fantasy teams… what the hell can be done now?

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      Drop his ass.

      • forensic

        Those are much harder decisions if it’s a keeper league. Do you give up on his future because of this? That’s a tough call.

        I don’t have CC, but I am going through it with Gallardo.

  • Crime Dog

    This game is so frustrating to watch. The Yankees have had plenty of chances it seems like, and Hellickson takes a minute between each pitch. Brutal.

  • Jacob the OG

    Thought I would drop by and see the comments, read 3 and said fuck it.

    Who’s ready for CC to figure this shit out next season?

  • Shittyshittybangbang

    The Rays t.v.team polling viewers as to whether A-rod will play with Yankees this year. Really ?! Wow, fuck-off Stats. Disgruntled, ex-employee !

    • stuart a

      who cares. they get 20,000 fans to a game…

      no 1 cares why waste your time.

      for the thousandth time the Yanks are the big boys, the little boys always are jealous.
      they do not boo nobody…

  • stuart a

    i may be as fast as overbay who went to the cano school of running hard out of the box.

    lucky ichiro swung at the first pitch last time up, you know home run hitters see there pitch you go for it..

    as mike said today or yesterday league avg or better at 2 postions offensively now with soriano they are league avg or better at 3 spots.

    thats all folks….

  • stuart a

    adam warren has done a good job in games that do not matter. he is not that good. he is a mopup guy…that’s it…

    • Shittyshittybangbang

      And….., now you mooshed him !

  • Tom

    Cliff Lee scratched from his start tomorrow for a “stiff neck”

    Not convinced the Phils will trade him, but I wonder if they are just checking to see if some team will overpay/blow them away with an offer.

    • stuart a

      no thank you.

      that would be a george steinbrenner insane tartabull move.

      pass….baltimore should get him or atlanta…

  • WhittakerWalt

    Third time this year CC’s given up 7 runs. Second start in a row with 7, in fact. And the start before he gave up 8, though only 3 earned.
    So that’s awesome.

  • Lukaszek

    Amazing. 10-1. Just freaking brilliant

  • Kramerica Industries

    Still waiting for James Loney to regress back to being James Loney. Something that still hasn’t happened, for g-d knows whatever reason.

    • stuart a

      this is the highlight of his career.. he is a better overbay….

      rays got lucky with him…he is better then overbay…overbay is a 300 obp best case scenario…

      there is so much dreck in the yankee lineup it is incredible…hafner, wells, lillibridge, the catchers, overbay, and ichiro. ichiro is a singles hitter with a low 300 obp….he should be a defensive replacement and pinch runner…

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    What an embarrassment.

  • stuart a

    as i stated before warren stinks gives up a ton of homers.

    his ball is straight…

    he is a mop up guy that’s it…

    yanks will not score 10 runs total for the weekend…let alone tonight…

    hellickson gave up 1 run over 6 innings and threw a ton of pitches and had many baserunners. difference is yankee hitters SUCK.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Yankees have a very nasty habit of dropping these home series openers to the Rays.

    Since 2008:

    2008 – dropped two of the three series openers 2009 – ditto 2011 – ditto

    2010 – won two of three 2012 – ditto

    And now they have dropped the first two of this season, too.

    That’s ten out of 17, for those keeping track. Pretty awful.

  • Oy

    Maybe Colletti will take CC’s contract…bah who am I kidding, Yankees won’t sell. They are 3 games out!111!

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    Just when you thought the game couldn’t get any worse, Kate Smith’s screetching rendition of God Bless Amerca

    • FIPster Doofus

      Fucking terrible.

  • SDB

    I’m just going to watch the White Sox game and hear Hawk Harrelson. Just because I think it’ll be less painful than still following this shit.

  • stuart a

    harrelson worse announcer in baseball..

    WORSE..

  • WhittakerWalt

    CC in 2013:

    7 ER three times
    6 ER once
    5 ER twice

    That’s six starts of at least 5 runs. WOW.

    • WhittakerWalt

      That makes 43 runs in 6 starts for CC.
      Just for some perspective, in 1995 Greg Maddux gave up 39 runs all season. Granted, that was one of the greatest pitching years of all time (especially considering all the steroids guys were doing), but damn.

    • stuart a

      maybe that is why his era is 4.50 +

      he has been bad and therfore it effects your era..

      thanks for the tremendous insight…

      • WhittakerWalt

        This from the most useless commenter on the whole site. Gosh, that stings.

        • JohnnyC

          Oh Walt you’re the worse…the worse, he says.

  • Kramerica Industries

    These Rays guys are so excited about being in first place after July 26.

    Again, get a fucking grip. Act like you’ve been there before, because you HAVE been.

  • dkidd

    hope the red sox enjoyed their time in first place

  • stuart a

    if adam warren is in the rotation next year you are a 70 win team or worse.

    kay and cone should stop drinking…

  • Kramerica Industries

    I won’t argue statistics, but since 2008, it seems like the Rays record at Yankee Stadium is significantly better than it is in reality. Wouldn’t be shocked if the run differential is much closer. It’s pretty jarring that the Rays record at Yankee Stadium in that time is only 19-31 (tonight accounted for).

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Figured i’d check in to leave a scent.

    K. later.

  • forensic

    Apparently Gameday has given up on the Yankees (understandably so). During that Stewart AB, they were already showing it as the end of the 8th and running an ad.

  • stuart a

    someone should tell Kay he can look it up it is allowed. stewart is hitting 238 not 250 and his slugging % is barely 300..

    just say he is good defensively but offensively he stinks that would be true but to say that Michael Kay would have to look at stats on occassion..

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Eduardo Scissorhands doing his thing

  • forensic

    Guess it’s not an embarassing enough game without Nunez doing something like that.

  • stuart a

    nunez makes a lot of errors taking the ball out of his glove… i do not understand why but he does.

    kay with some more drivel…

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Really?
    They need to play matchups for Lillibridge with a 7-run lead?

    • forensic

      If Joe Maddon does it, then it must be the right thing to do.

  • forensic

    And after Maddon’s tinkering, they’ve now made it into a save situation.

    • Pseudoyanks

      Unreal.

  • Lukaszek

    The kids are alright today

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    An inauspicious return for Soriano.

    • forensic

      Unfortunately, there may be a lot of these based on his now .284 OBP.

    • THe Real Greg

      Meh he got an RBI. That’s what he was brought here to do.

      • forensic

        He was brought here to ground into fielder’s choices for an RBI while going 0-5?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        He was brought here to hit HR’s, not to ground out.

        • THe Real Greg

          Hit Home Runs, Ground out RBI. Means nothing to me. Getting in the runs is all that matters.

          And they scored 6 runs which is good for them. Butt CC is cooked

          • forensic

            Butt CC is cooked

            Is that like a play on the ‘feces’ nickname that’s been going around? ;-)

  • 28 this year

    O’Neil Effect in for tomorrow perhaps? Like a 3 run outburst tomorrow?

  • THe Real Greg

    Rays should be embarrassed. They had to bring in their closer in a game when your up 6-0

    • forensic

      Using a closer after 6-0 after 1 1/2 innings isn’t that huge a deal.

      Using a closer after 10-1 after 7 1/2 innings is what’s pitiful.

      • THe Real Greg

        Good point.

      • THe Real Greg

        And Cleveland did worse, they blew a 7-1 lead after 4 and are in extras

    • John

      10-1

  • stuart a

    rays still won that is all that matters.

    moral victories mean jack…

    yanks scored 6 runs, have a parade. miracles do happen…

    at least the young guys got some AB’s…

    • forensic

      have a parade.

      YES! It had been so long.

  • JohnnyC

    I still think Phil Hughes is the obvious problem that Cashman hasn’t confronted.

  • Crime Dog

    I understand he was important in April, but it’s time to cut ties with Hafner. Good guy, good teammate (apparently), but he really can’t be taking any ABs. Just let Adams get those ABs or even Mesa. That is, unless Jeter is coming back tomorrow. Then he’s gotta take Hafners spot.

  • Dontshushme

    What happened to cano

    • Crime Dog

      Nothing, just took him out when they were down 10-1 (and Ichiro and Overbay). Just a little rest in a blowout.