Granderson picks up two hits in rehab game


Some minor notes, pun intended:

  • Both OF Thomas Neal and RHP Mark Montgomery were officially activated by Triple-A Scranton, reports Josh Norris. To clear roster spots, OF Cody Grice was sent to Double-A Trenton and RHP Jose Ramirez was placed on the DL. Not sure what’s wrong with Ramirez.
  • Missed this yesterday, but the molten hot 1B Greg Bird ranked sixth on this week’s Prospect Hot Street. We’d be talking about him as maybe the top prospect in the system if he was hitting like this as a catcher, but chances are he wouldn’t be hitting like this if he was still a catcher because of wear and tear. For shame.

Triple-A Scranton (4-3 win over Louisville)

  • 3B Brendan Harris: 2-5, 1 R, 1 RBI
  • LF Ronnie Mustelier: 2-4, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 BB — seven hits in his last 17 at-bats (.412)
  • 1B Dan Johnson: 3-5, 2 2B, 2 RBI — 66/70 K/BB in 103 games
  • C J.R. Murphy: 0-3, 1 BB
  • RHP Mark Montgomery: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 1/1 GB/FB — 16 of 29 pitches were strikes (55%) … 14/12 K/BB in his last 14.1 innings at this level, but there was a six-week DL stint mixed in there
  • RHP Chase Whitley: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 1/1 GB/FB — ten of 11 pitches were strikes … hasn’t allowed a run in exactly a month

Double-A Trenton was rained out.

High-A Tampa (11-6 loss to Charlotte)

  • 3B Jayson Nix: 0-4, 1 K — played seven innings in the field in his fourth rehab game
  • LF Curtis Granderson: 2-4, 1 R — played six innings in the field in his third rehab game
  • CF Mason Williams: 1-5, 1 R, 1 K — threw a runner out at third
  • C Gary Sanchez: 0-5, 2 K
  • DH Peter O’Brien: 1-4, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 2 K — five hits in his last 11 at-bats (.455)
  • 2B Rob Refsnyder: 2-3, 2 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 BB, 1 E (throwing) — 6/10 K/BB in his last ten games
  • LHP Dietrich Enns: 4.1 IP, 6 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 3/2 GB/FB

Low-A Charleston (3-2 win over Greensboro)

  • CF Jake Cave: 2-4, 1 CS
  • SS Cito Culver: 0-4, 1 R
  • 1B Greg Bird: 1-3, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 BB — 14 hits in his last 26 at-bats (.538) with seven walks and six strikeouts
  • 3B Dante Bichette Jr.: 1-3, 1 R, 1 BB, 2 K – eleven hits in his last 36 at-bats (.306)
  • 2B Angelo Gumbs: 1-3, 1 BB, 1 K
  • LHP Tyler Webb: 2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K — 21 of 26 pitches were strikes (81%) … 23/3 K/BB in 16 innings for this year’s tenth rounder

Short Season Staten Island (3-2 loss to Brooklyn)

  • CF Brandon Thomas: 2-4, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 K, 1 CS — nine hits in his last 24 at-bats (.375) with a homer and three doubles
  • 3B Eric Jagielo: 1-3, 1 BB, 1 K — four hits in his last 23 at-bats (.174)
  • RHP Rookie Davis: 4.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 1 WP, 5/4 GB/FB – 30/9 K/BB in 32.2 innings

Rookie GCL Yanks1 (4-3 loss to GCL Phillies in 15 innings, walk-off style) been an awful lot of long extra-inning games in the system lately

  • SS Tyler Wade: 2-6, 1 R, 1 BB, 2 K — reached base three times in seven plate appearances and his season OBP (.475) went down
  • 1B Renzo Martini: 2-7, 1 R, 2 RBI, 1 K
  • DH Dustin Fowler: 2-7, 1 RBI, 2 K, 1 CS — 6-for-12 in his young pro career so far
  • RF Austin Aune: 0-6, 4 K –
  • RHP Brady Lail: 5 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 7/1 GB/FB — 29/4 K/BB in 29.1 innings so far
  • RHP Eric Ruth: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1/0 GB/FB — 21/3 K/BB in 13.2 innings for the undrafted free agent out of Winthrop

Rookie GCL Yanks2 (3-1 loss to GCL Braves)

  • SS Abi Avelino, 3B Miguel Andujar, LF Nathan Mikolas & 1B Drew Bridges: all 0-4 — Andujar struck out … Avelino is still 12-for-28 (.429) in his last seven games
  • DH Matt Snyder: 2-3, 1 BB
  • SwP Pat Venditte: 2 IP, zeroes, 2 K, 1/2 GB/FB — one walk in 10.1 rehab innings so far
  • RHP Joey Maher: 4 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 WP, 1 HBP, 5/4 GB/FB
  • LHP Rony Bautista: 3 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 1 WP, 3/4 GB/FB — the 21-year-old has allowed one career homer in 128 innings since signing prior to the 2010 season
Categories : Down on the Farm


  1. Eddard says:


    Is the lineup they need to work towards. When Jeter/A-Rod have to DH you sit Ichiro and play Grandy in RF, Sori in LF. I just think it will be too little too late after they face Moore, Greinke and Kershaw in the next 3 ballgames.

  2. Naved says:

    Yankees future bullpen

    7th: Dellin Betances
    8th: Mark Montgomery
    9th: David Robertson

    I can dream right?

    • Laz says:

      I’m not terribly concerned. Yankees always seem to be able to find decent relievers.

    • Angelo says:

      Haha, maybe if Montgomery and Betances can keep the walks down. I’d say it’s mostly a dream though.

      • Bo Knows says:

        It took Robertson 3 years to learn how to keep the walks down. It’s not that big a deal for a reliever if he has the stuff to strike guys out, which Betances definitely does

        • Angelo says:

          Congrats for telling me what I already know. I’m just saying what’s likely to happen and what’s not likely to happen.

          Betances and Montgomery being the 7th and 8th inning guys is just unlikely. This doesn’t mean they can’t both be in the bullpen sooner than later, I just don’t see them being the 2nd and 3rd most valuable guys down there. It could happen, but relievers come and go all the time.

          • Neil says:

            I can see Kelleye and Claiborne sticking around.

          • Bo Knows says:

            Then why pray tell did you say “If they keep the walks down” walks aren’t all that important for middle relievers so if you knew that why bother saying that?

            As you know Betances is in AAA, appears to be having success as a reliever and is out of options, I bet their is a 95% chance he’s in the bullpen next year as the 7th inning guy because NY is not going let someone with his stuff and cheap salary go.

            • Angelo says:

              Because I don’t foresee Betances and Montgomery as the 2nd and 3rd best guys in the pen. I never said they’d suck at the MLB level. Two completely different things.

              And what I meant by my comment on them walking guys is that if they manage to have good/great control, then yes, they will both be very good relievers in the immediate future. It’s going to be a lot harder for them to be “very good” if they walk a lot of batters. Not impossible, but 2nd and 3rd best in the pen? I don’t think so.

              • Bo Knows says:

                Once Mo is gone and Robertson takes over, I see the entire situation as being 6/7/8 inning guy by committee, at least for the first few month or so, and even when if it sorts itself out, I think Girardi won’t be as married to the assigned innings because the bullpen will be full of one or two vets and mostly 1st and 2nd year guys.

                • Robinson Tilapia says:

                  He’ll find his guys. Don’t you worry. Kelley’s getting his tryout right now. There may be a vet in the mix we don’t know about. Someone already here could step up between now and the start of the season. I expect there to be a pecking order to start the season, even if things change around through the season.

    • trr says:

      Right now, dreaming’s the best thing we have, so dream away…

  3. Angelo says:

    We’d be talking about him as maybe the top prospect in the system if he was hitting like this as a catcher, but chances are he wouldn’t be hitting like this if he was still a catcher because of wear and tear.

    Well, where would you say he ranks right now with the change in position? I’d imagine that means you no longer consider him the 20th best prospect. Maybe this jumps him into the 10-13 range? I’d place him around #10 or a little lower right now.

    • Danny says:

      Easy top 10 guy in the system, he’ll make some guys 90-100 range when the lists come out.

    • rehobie says:

      20 years old, 2nd in homers in system, .400 OBP and people still look fo warts.

      • Angelo says:

        You’re right. He’s a prospect with no warts. A hybrid between Cabrera, Votto, and Pujols in their prime. Lets not pay attention to positional value, scouting reports, or anything else for that matter.

        The fact is, as great as those numbers look, he’s still playing first base where he’s kind of required to put up those kinds of numbers to even be taken seriously. If he played a different position, we would be having a different conversation, but it’s first base. So if he wants to be a top prospect, it’s pretty much “premium offense or bust.”

      • Samuel says:

        I don’t care where the guy plays as he is going to hit a ton at every level.

        So, if you want “extra value” put him in CF or SS or wherever.

        He is definitely Top 10.

  4. Laz says:

    Aune is making Bichette look pretty legit.

  5. nycsportzfan says:

    I’m excited to watch Brandon Thomas go through the ranks. I’m hoping hes a steal, as suggested.

    By the way Mike, your boy Phillip Ervin , who you did not like much as a prospect is absoulutley murdering the pitching in his first pro season, at whatever low class he started in. Not that it matters, but just thought i’d point that out to ya..lol

  6. Jacob the OG says:

    So is Bird a non prospect? Does he have much potential?

    • Angelo says:

      He’s not a non-prospect, just overall less valuable because he plays first base, so unless he hits really well over the next few years, he doesn’t have much value.

      Basically, he needs to mash to be considered a top prospect.

      • Jacob the OG says:

        Hmm, I wonder if his back was that bad that they could not try him somewhere else like the OF or maybe 3B? Did he not have the tools?

        • Angelo says:

          I’m assuming if they thought the possibility was there, they would have explored it. Either way, if he continues to hit like this it won’t matter what position he plays. Meaning, if he can continue to hit this well at each level of the minors.

        • Bo Knows says:

          There isn’t really anywhere else for him to play, the team has legitimate prospects in the OF, they have Bichette at 3rd, Gumbs at 2nd, he’s not going to be a SS.

          • Jacob the OG says:

            I don’t think that is what stopped them, depth is something you can never have to much of.

            • Bo Knows says:

              If you need a guy to play every day, you have to make room. They have a full outfield in Charleston, they have a prospect at every other position conceivable for Bird. He’s not someone you just play part-time, he has to be on the field everyday.

    • Isaac says:

      He’s as close to a first base prospect as the team has. He’s 20 and raking. He was drafted 5th round as a catcher, but that really didnt turn out due to his knees, but he still has his bat, and I doubt anybody is really blocking his path through the minors if this continues.

    • Bo Knows says:

      He’s 20 and is someone the Yankees spent a lot of money to get to sign, he most definitely is a prospect.

      First Base though has a very high standard when it comes to prospects because it is usually the position of last resort because its the least valuable defensive position, so you have to be capable of a ton of offensive potential.

      Bird has that kind of potential he knows the strike zone, has power that might be considered plus very soon if not right now and is showing he’s capable of hitting for average. If he was at any other position he’d get a lot more recognition, but because he’s a first baseman his value won’t be as high until he shows he can mash AA caliber pitching. That said, if he keeps playing like he has he’ll slip into the top 100 lists.

    • Mac says:

      He’s one of the best 1B prospects in the minors. Some people are right that 1B has the highest offensive bar of any position, but I would say they are taking it too far (other people are taking it way too far the other direction by acting like C and 1B are the same thing). Bird is not an incredible, can’t miss prospect by any means, but he’s a damn fine prospect even at 1B. Bird has the bat to play 1B. Of course it’s all potential, but that’s the same for anyone in Low A.

  7. Isaac says:

    I like the Wade/Katoh combo, already hitting better than Gumbs/Culver

    • Angelo says:

      Sure, but don’t forget that the GCL is inferior in every way to Low-A ball. We might be talking about how awful Wade and Katoh are in a couple of years. Hopefully not though. I have no reason to root against them :)

  8. Bob Buttons says:

    I’m just gonna assume Eric is no relative to George, since there’s no over-reporting on the guy so far.

  9. Isaac says:

    Anyone see MLB.com’s updated prospect rankings? I know its usually off compared to others, but Jagielo was bumped to 5 and Clarkin 9, both ranked as above average, meanwhile Judge was ranked 18th and ranked average.. hmm..

    Plus, Bird was kicked off (??), and Zoilo was ranked 6…

  10. cooolbreeez says:

    I say we convert Eric Ruth to an outfielder and see what happens.

  11. bpdelia says:

    first off is it me or has Williams had a ridiculous amount of assists? it seems like every dotf has Williams throwing somebody out,

    Secondly the Aune situation is truly absurd. It seems fairly impossible to k this much. he’s over 50% now I assume. something is wrong I don’t ever recall an actual pospect struggling this badly. this is the sort of failure that can destroy even the strongest psyche.

    • Danny says:

      Absolutely has to be a mental thing, even if the approach and swing are THAT bad (which they aren’t, has a really nice swing), its nearly impossible to K at such high rates.

    • Manny's BanWagon says:

      Cashman reportedly has been telling people the front office wanted Aune and he was against the pick. He wanted to pick another player and wouldn’t disclose his name though he did say he was raking.

    • forensic says:

      He wasn’t a real prospect, but amazing K numbers always make me think of this beautiful BR page:


      • bpdelia says:

        no he was an actual prospect. a SS drafted high with a supposedly great swing that could add power. he wasn’t an amazing prospect but he was a second round pick and not a money saving pick.

        moving to the OF dinged his value but he was considered a 4 or 5 tool major league prospect coming into the draft.

        • forensic says:

          Um, I wasn’t talking about Aune being an actual prospect or not. I just prefaced my link by saying the guy I linked to wasn’t a real prospect, just that I linked him because of the absurdly bad numbers he put up.

          • bpdelia says:

            lol. OK sorry. even for a non prospect that bref line is unfathomably bad. He can’t even tell women he was a professional ball player because he has to make sure no one ever sees that page. I had said “I’ve never seen an actual prospect fail so badly”. and your first sentence was “he wasn’t a real prospect.”. Ill communication is all. carry on.

  12. yankeepankee says:

    Hi all.
    Is Bird totally out as a catcher in future years?
    Or can be a Jim Leyritz-type, first, DH, some third, catch once in a while..etc.

  13. Wayne says:

    How about robertson , clairborne, whitley and kahnle. What a Great bullpen that would be!!!!!

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Yup. One elite guy (slightly pushing it.) One guy with half a year in the majors. Two guys who’ve never sniffed it. Sign me up now.

      • Angelo says:

        People get prospect crazy and think every prospect with above average numbers in the minors equals above average MLB player. Not sure how anyone could follow that logic and actually believe it.

  14. Troll Hunter says:

    Was at the Tampa Yankee game tonight and have to point out that even though Sanchez had a rough night offensively he did throw out two runners trying to steal second.

  15. Duh Injuries says:

    2014 Yankees bullpen:

    Robertson (closer)
    Clairborne (co-setup man)
    Kelley (co-setup man)
    Logan (lefty)
    Warren (long man)
    Chamberlain (next to last man in the pen)
    Montgomery (last man in the pen)

    • Samuel says:

      Joba has ZERO chance of being with the Yankees in 2014.


    • IRememberCelerinoSanchez says:

      Joba is a free agent. I doubt very much the Yanks will re-sign him.

      Logan, too, is a free agent, and given the Yanks’ new austerity, I can’t see them paying what it would take to retain Logan.

      Also, if Logan, Joba and Mo all leave, I think there is zero chance the Yanks don’t bring in a veteran. Not necessarily to close, and not necessarily someone in his prime, but someone with some experience, someone they can get on a one-year deal.

  16. Duh Injuries says:

    Btw Chamberlain isn’t bad, he’s just not very good hence he’s the next to last man in the pen who could easily be the last man in the pen if Montgomery outpitches him.

  17. That Rauny Bautista stat is pretty amazing. .

  18. Mike in Davie Florida says:

    No chance Joba is on this team next year. Zero. I would be willing to bet he isn’t a Yankee a week from now.

  19. Carlos Danger says:

    At what point will Dan Johnson get a call-up? He has a great eye, hence the more BBs than Ks. The current roster, the way its constructed has sucked for a long time now. The OBP for all non-Cano players are pretty putrid. These under 100 pitches, CGSHOs are embarrassing. I know he’s a lefty but beggars can’t be choosers. This roster is too ultilty player deep. With Haf to the DL coupled with no better options on the trade block, why not see what he’s got. The same could be said for Musty. We know what we have with soon to be healthy Nix and the rest of the ulitilty players, something needs to give.

    “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
    Albert Einstein

    • IRememberCelerinoSanchez says:

      “At what point will Dan Johnson get a call-up?”

      I hope never. He is the text-book AAAA player.

      In 1,551 MLB plate appearances, he’s slashed .237/.338/.412, and in 262 MLB plate appearances from 2010-2012, he’s slashed .184/.313/.374.

      Don’t let the minor league numbers fool you. He’s been doing that for 13 seasons, with a career minor league slash line of .283/.387/.510. It’s just clear now he can’t translate that to the show. 33-year-old guys don’t suddenly figure out how to hit in the majors.

      Throw in lousy defense, and he is just not a guy that would help. Overbay is better.

  20. Robert says:

    Thoughts Cashman wants out…lately comments seem to indicate that

    Someone said we never replaced Matsui n Damon,Why not sign free agents Choo and Elsberry ????

    Nix really raking can’t wait for his return!!!

    • Rick in Philly says:

      Since this is DotF thread, I’ll tell you why from a prospect POV: one or both of those guys is probably getting a qualifying offer. Unless the Yankees manage to drop into the top 10 picks of the draft, they’ll lose their first round pick.

  21. Carlos Danger says:

    Why not sign free agents Choo and Elsberry ????

    Because the 2014 outfield is spoken for. Gardner, Soriano, Ichiro and Wells. Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to your 2014 NYY outfield.

    • steve (different one) says:

      Wells isn’t owed any money next year. He could be released painlessly. IF the FO was willing to make a real upgrade, and I am not saying they are, Ichiro and Soriano could become 2 halves of a platoon with Soriano also getting time at DH. I have no idea what they’ll do, and I kindof think 2014 is a lost cause no matter what, but none of those guys are blocking anyone.

  22. Wayne says:

    What about those who bring up montgomery and betances! Those guys are not bigger prospects than kahnle or whitley. Betances has had mechanical issues which is why he is still in minors and he is older than kahnle and whitley. Whitley could definitely get called up soon. I believe thiis articles toons he has not allowed an earned run in a month. And many people Have predicted kahnle could be the eventual successor to replace Rivera. claireborne has pitched fairly well. The fact that they are just prospects does not mean they won”t be good. Alot of fans give projections on prospects. Clairborne kahnle and Whitley are all considered high end relief prospects. I do think we will look into signing a possible veteran closer in the offseason. I think valverde is only signed for this year only with tigers but not sure. Obviously it’s not easy to throw kahnle right into the closer situation that is why you need a guy like John wetteland which I think a valverde type would do for kahnle and let kahnle be a middle reliever next year and see what happens. But i meant future bullpen of David Robertson already ,Preston Clairborne ,Chase Whitley and Tommy Kahnle is nothing to sneeze at !! Like I said the prospects are all considered high end!!

    • Angelo says:

      Wayne, I’m sure others have mentioned this before, but it would really help if you organized your comments better so that it doesn’t look like one giant rant. It’s kind of hard to read when someone writes like this.

      Just trying to help you out if you actually want anyone to read these things.

  23. Wayne says:

    Plus Betances had tommy john surgery!

  24. Bronx Bombers23 says:

    “If only Bird wasn’t a first baseman…”

    I am so sick of hearing this crap. So let’s discount the fact that the kid is straight raking the ball, and just say he’s a first baseman, so who cares.

    Same old, same old up here. We know you can’t stand him because he’s not a catcher Mike, but please spare us the caveat of “he’s only a first baseman…” every time you mention him.

    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

      What, if anything, did Mike say that wasn’t totally factually correct? He would be a top 3 prospect in the system were he still a C, but he’s borderline Top 10, at best, as a 1B.

    • CS Yankee says:

      Move the kid up to Tampa for the final month of MiLB. i don’t recall anyone at 1B in Tampa making the recaps this year.

      People do need to be kinder to our 2016 Teix replacement…let’s just hope its way above replacement level. Of course in order for this to happen, he’ll have to change his birth certificate to show 34 instead of 24 in 2016.

      • Bronx Bombers23 says:

        Oh no doubt about that. If Bird was 36, and his best years were clearly behind him, there would be a column on here clamoring for the Yankees to acquire him.

        My points is why are his accomplishments constantly discounted because he’s at 1b? I swear I almost get the feeling the vast majority would be happier if he was batting .210, as long as he was doing it at C, it would be fine.

        If we can have a power hitting 1b, with an absurdly high OBP in the system, I’ll take him.

        • Angelo says:

          I think everyone would take that. The thing is, he’s playing in Low-A. The lowest full season league level. What he’s doing is impressive, but this in no way guarantees he’ll do this in High-A, AA, AAA, or MLB. He’s incredibly faraway.

          And when you consider the fact that he’s a first base prospect, it means he’s going to have to hit very well no matter what happens. If he played a different position, his production could fall off a little, and he could still be considered a very good prospect. That isn’t the case for first basemen.

          I feel like I continue to repeat myself, but for Bird to be an impact MLB player, he’s going to have to continue to produce at a very high level. As much as people love to hug and go crazy for prospects, we have no idea if this will actually happen. Most prospects, even top prospects, fail. It’s too early to believe that this is the type of player Bird will be going forward.

          • Cool Lester Smooth says:

            Exactly. If he played literally any other position, he would be an elite prospect. As a first basemen, the line he’s putting up right now makes him an above average one.

            He has to keep this up through AA to start cracking prospect lists. A 1B needs to have a wRC+ of 125 or more to be considered a good major league player and, unfortunately, a 165 wRC+ in Low-A doesn’t mean that’s who a guy is going forward.

            • Mac says:

              A 125 wRC+ would make you the #10 1B in baseball this season.

              While some people are wrong for acting like there’s no difference between a C prospect and a 1B prospect, others are wrong for acting like every 1B in MLB is Mark McGwire.

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