Saturday Night Open Thread

Yankees win sixth straight game, beat O's 5-4
Robinson Cano and Mariano Rivera elected to All-Star Game

Hard to believe it’s already that time of the year, but the AL and NL All-Star teams will be announced this evening (6:30pm ET on FOX). Robinson Cano and Mariano Rivera are shoo-ins for the Midsummer Classic, the Yankees’ only other serious candidates are Brett Gardner, David Robertson, and Hiroki Kuroda. My official guess (and it’s just a guess) is that none of those three get in but Gardner is one of the five guys on the Final Vote ballot. We’ll find out soon enough.

Anyway, here is your open thread for the night. After the All-Star Selection Show, those of you in the Tri-State area will get the Mets and Brewers (Marcum vs. Gallardo) as the FOX Saturday night game. Those of you who live elsewhere will see one of four other games. MLB Network will air a game later tonight as well. Talk about any of that stuff and more right here.

Yankees win sixth straight game, beat O's 5-4
Robinson Cano and Mariano Rivera elected to All-Star Game
  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Biggest win of the year!

    • trr

      Steinbrenner’s real ghost says that after EVERY win

  • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

    I’m going to be in Fenway on 7/20 all I want is A-Rod in the line-up going 4 of 4 with a game breaking HR.

    Please GOD.

  • DERP

    Please no Markakis

    • DERP


  • The Real Greg


    The AL lineup

    • DERP

      The fans pretty much got it right. I don’t think Jones deserves to go but whatever.

      • Get Phelps Up

        Peralta should have started over Hardy too.

        • forensic

          Really, Kipnis and/or Pedroia have a good argument to start over Cano too, though that’s mostly blasphemy here.

          • The Real Greg

            Pedroia certainly but it seems that the Boston community was not interested in voting. From Jayson Stark

            #Orioles sure got out the vote. Nate McLouth got more votes (3,221,179) than any Red Sox player except Ortiz & Pedroia.

          • Get Phelps Up

            The gap between Peralta and Hardy (30 points of wrc+) is way bigger than the gap between say Pedroia and Cano.
            You can also make an equally solid case that Gardner should start over Jones.

            • forensic

              Certainly, not arguing that (Hardy shouldn’t even be on the roster).

              And yeah, Gardner should be ahead of Jones, but if you’re going that way you could also say that Ellsbury should be there too.

              Those are basically the 3 positions (kind of odd that it’s the 3 up the middle spots for some reason) on the AL squad that could be argued about. The others are pretty much open and shut cases.

  • The Real Greg

    C. Gonzalez

    • The Real Greg

      The NL lineup

      eh on Harper

  • Eddard

    If Gardner hadn’t slumped down the stretch he’d be in. Hiroki should be in. Drob won’t be until he’s a closer.

    • vicki

      dial back the trolling. he had an .881ops june.

  • DERP

    Brett Cecil! Nice!

  • The Real Greg

    AL pitchers

    Perkins (Glen)

  • The Real Greg



  • The Real Greg

    NL Pitchers


    NL Bench

    E. Cabrera

  • The Real Greg

    Fan Voting




    A. Gonzalez

  • Neil

    Nunez to 1B once Jeter comes back? Overbay on the bench as a defensive replacement.

    • Steve (different one)

      Jeter to 1B makes more sense….

      Never going to happen of course. Ever.

  • Pat D

    I learned a few things today.

    First of all, I learned I’m never coming to Gettysburg during a reenactment weekend ever again. True, this one (150th) was going to be the busiest ever, but the reenactment today was kind of boring, there are just way too many people, and the layout at the reenactment site is beyond inefficient.

    Second, and more importantly, I’ve learned that I’m definitely heading for an early grave. Because of my weight and other complications that have already developed, my body is rapidly betraying me. Constant pain, soreness and tiredness in my entire lower body. I’m just totally out of it physically.

    The last thing I learned is that the Loch Ness Monster needs tree fiddy.

  • forensic

    In a keeper league, if you had Adam’s (Lind and Dunn) as your other main 1B players (also Ackley and Ike Davis eligible there to see if they start hitting), and could use a big-time starting pitcher, how much consideration would you give to trading away Votto for Shelby Miller?

    I’m just not quite sure if Miller is big-time enough for me to lose Votto. The keeper aspect of having him is nice, but it’s also there for Votto (though his position may be easier to fill than Miller’s). I’m also concerned that they may run into some sort of inning’s limit with Miller and I wouldn’t get as much out of him as I’d like. I may counter with Votto for Darvish instead and see what happens, but I’m not sure he’d accept that.

    In a separate offer, someone offered me Hosmer, Jose Fernandez, and Zach Wheeler for Votto. Again, there are keeper aspects to Fernandez and Wheeler (and maybe Hosmer), but their teams don’t support them much and there are definite innings limits on Fernandez (maybe Wheeler too). I’m also not big on taking on the extra players since I’m in a little bit of a roster crunch already.

    Anyone feel like giving any input on this quiet Saturday night?

    • vicki

      i don’t know your league’s valuations but i’d want joey votto on my team; real, fantasy, bowling, whatever.

    • Joe R

      I wouldnt do it. Miller I dont think is worth it. IMO you need a top line start with track record. Like a Kershaw or someone. Votto is always going to give you numbers. Especially with it being a keeper league. I agree with your assessment on the other trade as well. Hosmer is underproduced for what people expected out of him and you cant count on the Marlins to give you any wins. You can find better than Wheeler on the waivers.

    • Cool Lester Smootth

      What are the categories? Normal 5×5?

      • forensic

        Nah, it’s a pretty deep league, head-to-head, 23 categories (12 offense, 11 pitching). Votto can certainly affect more categories than a SP can, which obviously works in his favor.

  • vicki

    gallardo could hit third for the yankees.

  • Mick taylor

    Has any player everhit 320 with 50 hrs and close to 200 strike outs? Like Chris Davis is on pace for? I know Reggie Jackson hit 44 hrs with almost 180 strikeouts bit he onlyhit like 260. How can Davis befitting 320 with almost 100 strike outs. Is it because he plays Ina bandbox half his games in Baltimore?

    • Dalek Jeter

      His .369 babip probably has something to do with it.

      • vicki

        indeed. but it’s not crazy out of line with his career .341 babip. and his 26.9 k% is actually down from his career 30.3.

    • Ethan

      He gets a hit or he strikes out is how he can have those numbers. Doesn’t put the ball in play for outs it seems.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Ryan Howard was close to that in 2006.
      .313/58 HR/181 K’s

      • Mick taylor

        Howard also plays in a bandbox if he or Davis played in the old Yankee stadium where it was 457 ft and 461 ft to left center and centerfield as opposed to like 370 to left center and right center in Baltimore and philly , they would hit 30 hrs and bat250.

        • Now Batting

          Howard is a dead pull hitting lefty. Growing up in central Jersey and seeing games at both parks Howard could have had possibly more than 58 in Yankee Stadium.

        • WhittakerWalt

          I always laugh at these hypothetical “this guy would have this many homeruns if he hit in this ballpark” discussions. Like “Willie Mays would have hit 800 homeruns if he played in Fenway Park.”

          Because you can just know that kind of thing.

  • phillymatt

    Congratulations Eric Jagielo on your first homerun


  • Evan3457


  • Mattchu12

    Anybody else hear about Vernon Wells working a bunch at first base today? That could become pretty interesting if he can pull off a half ass first base to platoon with Overbay.

    • Evan3457

      Yes, they mentioned it for awhile in the game broadcast.

    • SDB

      Good for him. He’s been generally average as a player (a good first month balanced out by several weeks of being utter crap), but I love the guy’s attitude – seems to be willing to do whatever’s needed for the team, whether fielding third base on the fly, or something like this.

      I really hope this works out, as I imagine a platoon would help both him and Overbay a lot in terms of their load, while also meaning that Zoilo wouldn’t necessarily go down once Granderson returns.

    • Joe R

      They had clips of him working with Kelleher at first during the game today.

  • Evan3457

    Had to be done.

    OK, bad first inning, but good after that.

    Jeter, like A-Rod, not ready for the majors, going 0-2. But wait, he did walk, so he’s ready to bat leadoff because John Kruk said Brett Gardner doesn’t work the count like Jeter does. Or something.

  • Pat D
  • Get Phelps Up

    Wow, the Angels really blow. It would nice if they could at least take one behind Weaver tomorrow.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Take away Clay Buchholz being the best pitcher in the AL, and somehow the Red Sox get better.

      Fuck me.

    • Len S.

      They might not blow tonight.

      • Len S.

        Well, in the end they didn’t blow. Hate rooting for the Angels.

    • forensic

      At least they showed up in the 9th inning. We’ll see what happens from here though…

    • vicki

      reverse jinx masterfully executed.

  • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

    Am I the only one who just watched the Angels walk off on the Red Sox? Pretty awesome after the Sox blew a 4 run 9th inning lead.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    I am grinning ear to ear right now as I read an article in a local but large newspaper about our show, which is in less than a week.