Yankees make no deals prior to trade deadline


4:35pm: “We had a lot of conversations. Some gained some traction, some were immediately rejected,” said Cashman to reporters. “It wasn’t a deep market at all. It wasn’t a deep pool to swim in. We didn’t get anything to lead us to a deal. We certainly explored it enough. Soriano was the big bat we got.”

4:13pm: The Yankees did not make a single move on Wednesday prior to the 4pm ET trade deadline, multiple reporters confirmed. Brian Cashman will speak to the media shortly, and I’m guessing he’ll recite the generic “we didn’t like the prices,” “we’ll be aggressive on waivers in August,” and “our injured players are better than anyone we could have traded for” lines. Alfonso Soriano, whom the Bombers acquired last week, was the best hitter traded prior to the deadline this summer. Seriously.

Categories : Asides, Trade Deadline


  1. Anthony says:


    Unreal. What a piece of shit deadline and what’s going to sting even more is when Cashman and/or Hal make those lame comments about how Granderson & Jeter are the best deadline acquisitions anyone could get.

    Team needed just upgrades at C (Ruiz, Navaro), 1B (Morales, Morse), and 3B (Young) but they can’t even get that done.

    They didn’t need superstars, just upgrades over the crap they have out there. Makes me sick.

    • RetroRob says:

      I wasn’t aware Morales, Morse, Young and company were traded.

      • Anthony says:

        I’m saying you would think they could’ve handed at least one of those guys. It’s a little fucking discouraging they couldn’t even get one.

        • Tom K says:

          If these players were available, more than one team would have been involved. The fact is that the players ended up nowhere, which means that the teams holding these players were probably looking for a bigger return than what anyone was willing to offer. None of the 5 players in your post are difference makers.

          • jsbrendog says:

            exactly. not only that but the fact that none of them were traded only reinforces what you said.

          • botz says:

            They’d all be better than what we have now. I consider that to be the definition of a difference maker.

            • RetroRob says:

              Agreed, although my original point was that none of those players were moved to any team. That means the asking price was off the charts, which was the basic vibe of the market. In the end, the Yankees go the biggest bat that was moved.

              The second Wild Card has put a damper on trades this time of year. Be interesting to see if that changes over time.

          • JGYank says:

            We really didn’t need all-stars or anything like that. Those guys definitely would have been difference makers. Especially considering they would take the crappy bats out of the lineup and would of replaced them with above average hitters. We just needed a couple of above average guys like Morales and Young to fill major holes in our lineup but we couldn’t get it done. Those guys along with the guys back from the dl would be the solid boost we need for a run.

    • trr says:

      Absolutely no surprise to me.
      There are some real issues with the F/O, aren’t there?

      I think Mike is correct, Cashman will soft-soap everything and
      peddle the usual GM-speak.

      And another very tough game tonight. We needed that game last night. Things are not looking up right now.

      • Anthony says:

        Cashman doesn’t want to trade prospects, he wants to build around them. Ownership views that as “rebuilding” and don’t want to sell that to Yankees fans, so they do a half-assed job of trying to present a team that can be called “contenders.”

        Just fucking disgusted.

        • The Real Greg says:

          But if ownership was really in charge, they would have made another trade.

          • Anthony says:

            Would they? Hal Steinbrenner is going to tell Yankees fans how Curtis Granderson and Derek Jeter are the BEST acquisitions ANY TEAM can make! No need to spend money when they already have all-star talent coming back! And they already made a trade for Alfosno Soriano!


            • jsbrendog says:

              if a sports teams roster machinations cause you to be disgusted maybe you should try to find a better hobby brah

            • D23 says:

              Sheesh. We landed the best hitter available. Grandy is an upgrade over Rios and Pence. It would have hurt us more losing prospects for several guys that really not in our plans next year.

              • nycsportzfan says:

                The yankees needed a bat more then most any team needed anything is the problem. If they had to overpay a tad, then so be it. They are 3.5 out and added Soriano and Jeter, with Grandy coming after that, and Cervelli mid august. Now you add in a Michael Morse, and you’ve really got something. Again, 3.5 games out! I just feel Michael Morse could of been had for a agressive offer, tha still will probably add up to very little when decided.

                I just think a morse, soriano, Jeter, and Granderson could make a big diffrence going forward with Ichiro, Cano, Gardy, and Overbay.

            • Stan the Man says:

              I am not a Granderson fan but he is better offensively than any player that was potentially being offered, so if Cash or ownership says Granderson is the best upgrade out there they are 100% right.

              • JGYank says:

                Ok but what about all the other below average guys in the lineup? You have to fill some of those holes if you want to gain ground since our team can’t hit. Overbay can’t hit lefties, options at third won’t give us much, Wells and Hafner aren’t getting it done, Ichiro is a singles hitter that doesn’t get on base much, and Soriano is only a slight upgrade over Wells. Granderson and Jeter aren’t enough especially considering Grandy is strikeout prone and Jeter is old and both are back from an injury.

        • CP says:

          To reiterate Mike’s point:

          Alfonso Soriano, whom the Bombers acquired last week, was the best hitter traded prior to the deadline this summer. Seriously.

          The problem isn’t with the Yankees. The problem is that there were no hitters available. As offense has dropped across the league, teams aren’t willing to trade what hitters they do have.

        • Mike says:

          That would be a great plan if cashman and his team could actually produce an impact young player once every 10 drafts… And the biogenesis thing makes Montero ( which was a feather in his cap) actually look a lot worse

          • Timmayyyy says:

            Who is the Yankees best player? And one of the best hitters in the game? Cano? They did good with him right? You know what it takes to get some impact players in their system? Some top 10 picks. It is actually ok to be competitive but also rebuild. They are not completely out of it and none of the players mentioned are any good. If as a fan base we would relax and appreciate the last 20 yrs we might actually allow a farm system to develop again for another successful run long term. We have no clue what cashman was being asked to give up so we can assume it was probably a joke and something that in 2 years we would be cursing him for

        • JGYank says:

          I love good prospecs as much as the next guy, but Cashman has to realize most prospects for any organization don’t contribute much if anything at all. Unless you have something really special, you should take the proven talent more often than not.

    • Carlos Danger says:

      It’s shocking to me they didn’t make a move for at least one of the names you mentioned. Instead monitor that waiver deadline Cash, maybe you can get another Alberto Gonzalez! Pathetic effort.

      • jsbrendog says:

        Pathetic effort.

        right. pathetic effort, cause you were there and know how this works. it isnt like they were traded to another team and theyanks missed out. no one was traded. maybe you should take a step back and try to see the overall picture. No one was willing to give up what those teams wanted for those players OR they werent really available.

        this has nothign to do with effort for fuck sake

        • Anthony says:

          One player the Yankees reportedly had interest in was Alberto Callaspo…and he DID get traded.

          They couldn’t even get Alberto Callaspo. Last night, most reporters said the Yankees had major interest in him and he suddenly goes to the freaking A’s.

          • Anthony says:

            And, at tome point, Cashman has to stop blaming the market and take some responsibility.

          • jsbrendog says:

            yeah for grant green. their 8th ranked prospect (3rd by someone else)

            you really wanna give that up for someone shitty like callaspo? think about things before you spout off

          • BFDeal says:

            And the A’s gave up their 8th or 3rd (BA and MLB rankings) for him. Would you have done that?

          • Stan the Man says:

            Oh no the Yanks didn’t get Callaspo they will never win another game again.

          • IRememberCelerinoSanchez says:

            Cashman should get a raise for not trading for Callaspo. He is slashing .252/.324/.347/.671 this year, which is just a tick below his career numbers, which are still below league average (96 OPS+).

            He is a third baseman who doesn’t hit for average, doesn’t get on base, and doesn’t hit for power. Sign me up!!!! And let’s trade Sanchez and Austin for him!

            If the Red Sox traded for him, you’d say he stinks. And you’d be right.

            • Slugger27 says:

              the irony of this post is you seem to have no idea how big of an upgrade a 96 OPS+ or 671 OPS would be.

              • JGYank says:

                Yep. We had Lillibridge there for a while. Nix and Nunez aren’t as bad though but we could still definitely use an upgrade.

    • dalelama says:

      It doesn’t matter they aren’t going anywhere for 4 or 5 years anyway.

    • Laz says:

      But what were the prices those teams wanted?
      I it worth unloading our farm for that crap?

    • Tisha says:

      get used to the broken record. Their #1 hits , “There was nothing available” and that old stand by, “The price was too high”.

  2. Nathan says:

    So if it weren’t for the FO, the Yankees wouldn’t have done anything. Interesting.

  3. Michael says:

    Pathetic effort by the Yankees front office! Doing nothing (buy or sell) says you accept mediocrity. Not acceptable!

    • Stan the Man says:

      They have a $230 million payroll with $100+ million on the DL, yep that is settling for mediocrity.

  4. Mike says:

    Don’t ask me why, but I typed in “Yankees” in twitter to see what people were saying….and seriously, I can’t believe all the Yankees fans who jumped off the ledge. So many incredibly bizarre comments. This this team is not 1 move, 2 moves, or even 3 moves away from being a legit contender, especially when you factor in the moves that the Sox and Orioles made. I guess it’s just hard for Yankees fans to handle ONE season that doesn’t look like WS. I will say, though, that I don’t really understand the Soriano move if they weren’t planning on doing something else — but I guess there just wasn’t anything there…I’m sure they tried.

    • This site is loaded in ledgejumpers too.

      Not like the Yankees were all that active at last year’s deadline (other than Casey McGehee) and everyone wasn’t going FIRE CASHMAN. I support the re-sign Cashman movement myself, as ignorant as it may be.

    • Nat King Kong says:

      You’re sure they tried? Why? Everything we know from this FO this season screams that they don’t want to do anything but wallow through other teams’ dumpsters and pick up some washed-up trash simply to save money. They’re not interested in improving the product they put on the field, clearly.

      • Mike says:

        ok, so who could they have gotten? who is out there? Michael Young? Placido Polanco?

        • Nat King Kong says:

          Are you really trying to say that neither of those guys are an upgrade over what we currently have at 3b?

          Look, I’m not screaming to fire Cashman, or saying I know what these teams were asking for their players, and perhaps not making any move was the best move. But after all the bumbling and mismanagement over the past couple of years — particularly this past winter — how can anyone still think that this FO deserves the benefit of the doubt anymore?

          • Stan the Man says:

            It’s not whether those guys are upgrades or aren’t upgrades it is the simple fact that they aren’t cheap. Teams want something in return and if the Yanks aren’t taking on money to reduce the cost in prospects than it isn’t worth it. Long term the Yanks need prospects to step up, continually trading from the top of the deck for has beens and stop gaps isn’t how you build a winning team.

            • Nat King Kong says:

              We don’t really know if the deals were worth it or not.

              And, again, with the developmental track record of this FO, does anyone have any confidence that their prospects are going to “step up”?

              • The Big City of Dreams says:

                I don’t. Their claim to fame since Cashman took full control is D-rob who is a great reliever and Gardner who is a solid everyday player.

    • ggooglyboogly says:

      I feel like they could have improved at 3B, and they didn’t, I didn’t expect the playoffs this season…. or next, but I was hoping for SOMETHING today just for a little hope haha

      • vicki says:

        i think this is completely legitimate. we’ve had a generation of jeterspeak, “anything short of a championship is failure,” but there’s something to be said for giving the fans something for the balance of the season. a reason to trek up to the bronx, or at least to tune in to YES.

        without leveraging the future, of course.

        • jsbrendog says:

          but there’s something to be said for giving the fans something for the balance of the season. a reason to trek up to the bronx, or at least to tune in to YES.

          oh, you mean, like, being a fan of the team? so you’re saying you don’t want to go/watch/listen if they don’t win? well, then, why do you even bother cause you obviously don’t really care about baseball or the yankees. just rooting for something that wins.

          • vicki says:

            you’re a real holy-roller, kid. that’s the opposite of what i said. i follow baseball, not just the yanks, and i can enjoy a yankee game as a thing unto itself, not as a stepping-stone to the play-offs/world series/championship. i went through the 80s with donnie.

            get of your high horse, king of all fans.

            • jsbrendog says:

              then it shouldn’t matter whether the team “gives the fans a reason to go to the bronxor at least to tnue into yes” cause you know, they’re fans. of the team. which won’t be good forever. you’re not syncing up here

    • JGYank says:

      Honestly I think we are 2 good bats (at a hole like 3B or DH and not including guys back from DL) away from being a legit team. We would have good pitching and average offense. Think about this. CF Gardner SS Jeter 2B Cano Dh Morales LF Granderson 3B Young 1B Overbay RF Ichiro C Stewart. Against righties its not bad. Now this for lefties: CF Gardner SS Jeter 2B Cano 1B Morales LF Granderson 3B Young Dh Soriano RF Ichiro C Stewart. It’s decent and can at least score some runs. No terrible 3B, no Wells not getting on base, no Overbay against lefties. This combined with good pitching can win especially if they got hot down stretch.

  5. The Real Greg says:

    Cashman, for this year, has waved the white flag. That’s what this says.

    Now they did not sell because they have no real pieces to sell. They want to resign Cano, Kuroda has a full no trade, and Hughes is Hughes.

  6. yeayo says:

    This trading deadline shows how disjointed the Yankee upper management is.

  7. Broll the American says:

    The team isn’t going anywhere this year. Don’t delude yourself into thinking that they could have acquired anyone who would have made a difference. They should have sold off a part or two. Build towards a 2015-2020 dynasty not desperately seek the 2nd wildcard slot.

    • The Real Greg says:

      And the interesting thing is people have been saying that and they are still getting on him.

    • trr says:

      That’s just it isn’t it? We weren’t selling, we weren’t buying, just standing pat, expecting the aging cavalry to rescue us this year. I think we all know it’s not gonna be enough. So be it.

      Next year? If they plan on riding the “middle road” as Mike termed it, next year could look a lot like this year except no Mo, a 40 y/o SS, a 40 y/o RF, a complete void at 3B and C. And that’s if everybody stays healthy!

      • The Real Greg says:

        You don’t seem to get it.

        He’s not expecting the cavalry to save the Yankees this year.

        He sees the writing on the wall that it’s just not going to happen.

      • Steve (different one) says:

        Yes, 2014 is going to suck. This has been apparent for about 2 years now, as soon as the $189m was announced. At some point the team needs to rebuild, they’ve kept it going for 20 years. It’s time. Mo and Pettitte will likely be gone, Jeter will be 40.

        It’s going to be tough for a few years. I was just hoping that they had one more run this year, but the injuries were just too much. It’s a completely different team with Granderson, ARod and Teixeira.

      • Stan the Man says:

        This is assuming they don’t spend any money in the off-season?

      • W.B. Mason Williams says:

        Time to start pulling for J.R. Murphy in Spring Training next year. Seems like the kid’s really put it all together this year. Could hit ~.250 with 20 HRs if his production this year becomes the norm.

  8. Mike says:

    Like I said…was a few moves going to push us over the O’s and Red Sox? haha. I don’t get why everyone is pissed. And you can’t just create moves out of thin air…they have to be there. And then if Cashman made a move, then people would be pissed we are sacrificing our farm – and I’m one of them. Michael Young for example. He wouldn’t have been the missing piece so unless we get him for a dude in the NY Penn League then I don’t want him.

    • The Real Greg says:

      The reason is simple.

      Yankee fans are spoiled and don’t want to admit defeat.

      • jsbrendog says:

        seriously, yankee fans are the worst. it’s amazing how many times I get the, are you sure you’re a yankee fan? you’re way too rational and level headed to be one. hint – it is a shit ton.

        • LK says:

          People who are lucky get spoiled – it’s human nature. It’s the same reason many people overseas don’t like Americans, or why someone from the 1800s would think every single one of us is a petulant insufferable piece of shit.

        • Meatwad says:

          “Seriously yankee fans are the worst” I’m glad you’re so level headed. You sound like a tremendous person or maybe the world’s biggest douche nozzle. I’m sure it’s one of those.

    • Slugger27 says:

      people are pissed because they wanted cashman to either improve the team and try to sneak into the playoffs or sell the parts they had and plan for next year. doing neither was obviously going to be the least popular option in public opinion.

      personally, i wouldve traded cano and gotten back as much as possible (obviously).

      • The Real Greg says:

        I honestly think they want to resign Cano, just so they have at least one great player in that lineup next year.

        But this is them selling without saying it.

        • Slugger27 says:

          this is the 3rd person thats said they want to resign him.

          yes, i get that.

          trade him anyway. sign him in the offseason. theres no rule saying you cant do that.

          • LK says:

            I think trading a player and re-signing him afterward is much easier said than done. Even if you tell him you’ll have interest in the offseason, he’s going to be a little pissed you made him live out of a suitcase for 2 months.

    • Nat King Kong says:

      They’re 3.5 games out of the 2nd wildcard spot, of course a few moves could have pushed them over the top. As in, it’s not out of the question.

      What people are pissed about is that they did NOTHING to try and make up a tiny deficit. Nothing. They have no third baseman, no dh, a first baseman who can’t hit lefties, and two catchers who can’t hit anyone. They didn’t need to fill all of those holes, but filling one or two would at least have given them a chance. Now, they really have none.

      And whatever you, yourself, may feel about Michael Young, he is a a genuine major league hitter, something we don’t have currently at 3b or dh.

      • The Real Greg says:

        Do you honestly believe that this Yankees team can win the WS?

        • jsbrendog says:

          if they can make the playoffs yes. i am skeptical they can make the playoffs but the team that wins isnt usually ever the best team but the one who gets hot at the right time.

          if this team gets hot enough to make the playoffs they definitely have a chance to win the WS

        • JGYank says:

          Any team that makes the playoffs can get hot and can overachieve in a few series. It happens all the time. The goal is to get in and go from there.

      • fat jeter says:

        If I hear one more person claim that being 3.5 games out of the wildcard with any sort of optimism in their voice I think I am just going to lose my fucking mind. We are also 4 games over .500, need to climb over 3 other and better teams to get that wildcard spot and have an 11% chance of doing so this late in the season. Also, who really wants that fucking bullshit wildcard spot anyway? This team is just not built for the long haul. The team, as currently constructed, is the team we are going to war with for the next 2 months. What happens first, we plummet to .500 or below or somehow remember how to win enough games to climb over Cleveland, Texas, and Baltimore? Oh yeah, the run differential now stands at -8. The Yankees are a mediocre team and will remain one until they find a jewel or two in free agency and/or learn how to draft quality players and develop them long enough to either net something in a trade, or better yet, have them make an impact at the MLB level. I am not dumb enough to blame the front office for not going after players in a ridiculous sellers market — and I’m sure as shit not dumb enough to think Michael Young, Ruiz, Navarro or any of that other shit would have made fuck all of a difference. This season was lost over the winter, much like 09 was won over the winter. The rash of injuries that happened really only exist to help us all distance ourselves from the reality of this simply being a bad year and a sign of things to come for Yankee fans. The only real issue I have with the inactivity at the deadline is the fact that they simply did nothing. They didn’t get better and the didn’t get worse for the sake of getting better in the future. Which leads me to believe that there really is not much of a long term plan and these guys are all kind of flying by the seats of their collective pants. It is clearly difficult to run a franchise of this magnitude and appease a very demanding if not childish and entitled fanbase (yes, I count myself among the children), but a decision to buy or sell needed to be made. and unfortunately, not making a decision was one of the worst one’s they could have made. there is a real sense of desperation and mistrust from fans to the front office and probably within the front office itself. I certainly have not given up, I am just not going to get my hopes up.

    • 461deep says:

      Yes, some BS management comments on why no deals despite needs will be made. I don’t blame Cashman as recently he has been second fiddle to uppers. Hughes and a mid to low prospect could have gotten Morse I’ll bet as Morse health issues lowered his value as a full time player so platooning with Overbay and DH on occasion would be a fit. Empirical view, Empire may be for sale soon.

      • Steve (different one) says:

        How does Hughes for morse make a lick of sense for Seattle?

        • Stan the Man says:

          How does trading for Morse make any sense? How is it people are clamoring for the Yanks to make a move but don’t want scrap head trash, yet clamor for them to trade for scrap heap trash?

      • jsbrendog says:

        Hughes and a mid to low prospect could have gotten Morse

        your trade proposal (obviously) sucks

    • CashmanSUX says:

      “Sacrificing our farm”???

      WHAT farm? Just one of MANY reasons Brian Cashman should have been fired LONG ago.

  9. Greg says:

    nothing worth buying available that would make this team much better. Michael Young and his -.06 WAR? Really? Couldn’t buy anything good because we don’t have the prospects to do so. And don’t forget the $189M cap. Get ready for mediocrity.

  10. Gonzo says:

    Not many top tier prospects exchanged hands this deadline.

  11. jsbrendog says:

    so what youre saying is the yankees made the best offensive trade this year?


    • fat jeter says:

      Based on their immediate needs, yes, Soriano was probably one of the better moves made. Unfortunately, it is simply not enough and should not really warrant consideration as a “good move”.

  12. Frank says:

    Not surprised at all. The division is taking shape and it’s a 3 horse race. Yanks on the outside looking in. Yanks know it and most rational fans do as well.

  13. Mandy Stankiewicz says:

    Braves were reported interested in Hughs via MLBtraderumors

  14. King George says:

    The true irony is that some (read: most) of you that are clamoring for the Yankees to make trades and criticizing them, while not taking into consideration the prices of some of the players they were targeting/selling.

    How do we know the Phillies didn’t say, “OK, you want Michael Young? We want Manny Banuelos, Gary Sanchez, and Slad Heathcott.”

    How do we know the Mariners didn’t say “OK, you want Mike Morse? How about you give us JR Murphy and Rafael De Paula?”

    How do we know the Braves wanted Phil Hughes and the Yankees proposed Brian McCann and they scoffed?

    We don’t know anything. So shut the fuck up about knowing the various trades they didn’t follow through on since you don’t know what the prices were. And the funny thing is, many of you talk about the future of the team, yet some of these teams probably asked for solid future prospects and the Yankees probably balked, thus preserving the future.

    • Slugger27 says:

      your argument appears to cater to those who are mad they didnt buy.

      im mad they didnt sell.

      • King George says:

        I addressed that in the bottom with the Hughes scenario. Bottom line is nobody knows what was offered up. And let’s further attack your issue head-on.

        What if the Yankees were approached by a team like the Rangers and they said “We like Robbie, we’ll give you Pierzynski and Ogando.” Would you do that?

        What if the Yankees were approached by a team like the Diamondbacks and they said “How about Miley and Kubel for Cano?”

        Would you take those deals? I’d rather them not make a move then get raped and pillaged by a team, maybe it’s just me. We don’t know the packages so it’s completely irresponsible to say “Oh the Yankees owe it to their fans” or “The Yankees didn’t make any moves and are committed to mediocrity.” They could have gotten horrible offers, and I’d rather stand pat than take a deal that isn’t fair.

        • Slugger27 says:

          i think youre taking it to the extreme, but i see your point. personally, i find it hard to believe they couldnt get a good return for cano. look at the market for hitters. it was the worst i can remember since i started following baseball in the early 90s. maybe its not some monster package that a guy under contract for longer would get, but its still better than getting nothing and playing out the season when theyre the 4th best team in the division.

      • Bubba says:

        I was in the sell camp too but the Yankees really only had four chips to sell: Kuroda, Cano, Hughes and Gardner. They will probably resign Cano which is a mistake in my opinion. Kuroda could have not wanted to be traded. Hughes is well… Hughes. Gardner is inked in as our everyday CF for next year.

        • Slugger27 says:

          what does re-signing cano have to do with it though? trade him to what contender wants to rent him, and then sign him in the offseason. they wouldnt even have to give up a draft pick (not that it should matter for someone of his talents)

          • Bubba says:

            It is probably easier to resign a player you didn’t just trade though it might not be a huge factor I grant you. There is something to be said for not trying to get too cute.

    • Nat King Kong says:

      How do we know the Mariners didn’t say, “OK, you want Mike Morse? How about you give us Joba’s trampoline and Joe Girardi’s binder” and the Yankees scoffed, put their hands in their pants pockets, stared at their feet, coughed nervously, began whistling and calmly backed out the door?

      See, two can play at that game.

      • King George says:

        That’s just. We don’t know. That’s my point. So stop crying when you don’t know what was offered or who the players named were in any deals. You don’t really have a leg to stand on. You and others crying about why Cashman didn’t improve the team, don’t really know the parameters of any deals that were talked about. So until you do (unless you’re Brian Cashman or Randy Levine), please stop the lunacy.

        • Nat King Kong says:

          Now I’m “crying”?

          I’m not crying, self-appointed King of All Fans.

          I’m criticizing YOU for whining about anyone who disagrees with you, waving your little fists and telling everyone who disagrees with you to “shut the fuck up.”

          You’re rude and self-important. You don’t know any more than anyone else, so why don’t you take your own advice.

          You know, just because you call yourself a king doesn’t actually make it so.

  15. Rick in Philly says:

    Just because the Yankees didn’t make a move doesn’t mean that the front office wasn’t actively trying to find things. Criticize the market or the selling teams, not the effort that you presume was not made.

  16. The Real Greg says:

    If you want to criticize Cashman, criticize his drafting and developing which has led the Yankees to be in this position, with the exception of the ARod contract.

    • CashmanSUX says:


      And just think, TWICE since 2007-08, Cashman has been widely PRAISED for, and I quote, “rebuilding the Yankees farm system.”

      Both times that rebuilt farm system crapped out almost entirely. But did you ever hear any of the people who praised Cashman criticize him when it turned out he accomplished nothing… again?


      • Stan the Man says:

        The rubuilt farm system landed players like Granderson, Pineda, Vasquez, Nady, Marte and others. They only gave up Montero, Jackson, Tabata, Cabrera, Kennedy, and others and typically when you trade 5+ out of your 10 top prospects you will need to rebuild it again. It could be argued that all of those trades were losses to the Yanks.

  17. Nat King Kong says:

    So, because those who disagree with you don’t know all the details of the negotiations, they must “shut the fuck up,” but you, who know exactly the same (or don’t know exactly the same) can spew out of your buttocks any opinion you like?

    I think your user name has gone to your head.

  18. CashmanSUX says:

    Why should this deadline be any different than Brian Cashman’s pathetic winter? Or his pathetic deadline last year? Or his pathetic winter the year before that?

    It is nothing short of incredible that Brian Cashman has led the Yankees into their current abyss and STILL has his job. I can only assume Hal Steinbrenner doesn’t give a sh*t about ANYTHING but “saving” money.

    Fortunately, attendance is way down and the Yankees TV ratings are down 40% and falling. If they aren’t even going to try, F*CK ‘EM!

    • jsbrendog says:

      It is nothing short of incredible that Brian Cashman has led the Yankees into their current abyss and STILL has his job. I can only assume Hal Steinbrenner doesn’t give a sh*t about ANYTHING but “saving” money.

      dayton moore, jerry dipoto, doug melvin, terry ryan, ruben amaro jr.


      seriously, dayton moore.

      • Anderson Silva says:

        Who cares about other franchises? That shouldn’t matter on the decision making process of the Yankees

    • pat says:

      Current abyss?

      • CashmanSUX says:

        Yes, abyss.

        The major league roster is loaded with sh*t Brian Cashman scraped from the bottom of somebody else’s dumpster. Every time somebody gets DFA’d, Cashman jumps like he’s trying to line up another fake ID or back-alley abortion for one of his “girlfriends.”

        Organization has ZERO depth. NONE. You can talk about the number of injuries all you want, but the truth of the matter it, from the very FIRST injury (Derek Jeter not ready) Cashman’s Yankees were forced to plug in some pile of dumpster crap nobody else wanted – see Jayson Nix.

        Their farm system is crap. As usual, the Yankees best alleged prospects are at the lower levels and the closer they get to the show, the faster they fall apart. Been that way for a decade+.

        • CashmanSUX says:

          So… ya… abyss.

          Why do you think the TV ratings for Yankees games are down 40%?

        • The Big City of Dreams says:

          Their farm system is crap. As usual, the Yankees best alleged prospects are at the lower levels and the closer they get to the show, the faster they fall apart. Been that way for a decade+.


          You can’t criticize the farm on here or you’ll get ripped apart for even suggesting it isn’t a good system.

  19. CashmanSUX says:

    Brian Cashman: “We had a lot of conversations.”

    Talk is cheap, Brian. Just like everything else this steaming pile of dogsh*t you call an organization does.

  20. Chris says:

    With more teams staying in contention due to the expanded playoffs, perhaps it’s time to consider moving the trade deadline back to August 31st.

  21. Steve (different one) says:

    If the Yankees had gotten Soriano at 3:55 today, would the feeling still be that they didn’t do anything?

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Soriano is enough to get them over the hump, but they traded for the best bat on the market. You can only take what the market is giving, unless you want to overpay.

    If the Yankees were getting ARod, Granderson, and even Cervelli back soon, I think they’d have had a decen shot. But they aren’t b/c two of those guys are getting suspended. I was in the “selectively buy” camp a few weeks ago, but once it became obvious that ARod isn’t coming back this year, the air kindof went out of the balloon.

    They still have a shot, but basically everything has to go right from here on out. Granderson has to come back and rake, Soriano and Jeter have to hit, CC and Pettitte need to revert to form. It’s a lot to ask.

  22. The Real Greg says:

    You know the way to get great young hitters and prime top young starters nowadays?

    Draft well. Can’t get it in FA. Drafting is the way of the land. And Cashman can’t do that well, then he doesn’t deserve to be in the FO.

    • pat says:

      Cashman makes the picks himself?

      • The Real Greg says:

        Cashman hires the people who develop and draft and scout. He also signs off on picks. So he has the final say.

        • CashmanSUX says:

          AND, more importantly, he is SUPPOSED to be accountable when his people fail… repeatedly. But he’s not.

    • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

      Totally Agree.

    • Anderson Silva says:

      It’s not just drafting better. It seems like even they choose the right players, they can’t develop them. Most of our prospects take steps back and/or end up hurt. We need better coaches/instructors/whatever down at the farm.

  23. CashmanNinja says:

    On the surface it absolutely sucks that we didn’t make any moves, but that’s just that…the surface. When you look behind closed doors you’ll realize that just because another team makes someone available doesn’t mean they’ll give them away for pennies on the dollar. There wasn’t another “Bobby Abreu” type trade out there. We already did that trade this year: Alfonso Soriano. Other than that there wasn’t anyone to be had unless we overpaid. Yes…we would have had to overpay. Michael Young or Michael Morse would probably have cost something like Mason Williams and a decent pitcher. That’s the way the market is right now. Nobody wants to sell because they won’t get fair value and nobody wants to buy because the price tag is too high. What is Cashman supposed to do? If he grossly overpaid for Young then fans would bash him; if he doesn’t do anything then fans bash him.

    Sometimes the best move is the one you don’t make. It isn’t his fault that nobody was available for a comfortable price. The only real problem I have is not unloading Hughes. I don’t think we could have gotten a huge package for him, but I think it would have been better than the compensation we’d get when he winds up leaving (while also allowing tons of HRs at home). Oh well.

  24. lightSABR says:

    Sigh… anybody else dreaming of what we could have gotten for Cano?

  25. yooboo says:

    So that means Ronnier Mustiler will join with Yankees soon?

    Let him play at 3b and see what happen.

  26. CashmanSUX says:

    It’s clear that no number of horrific mistakes with big-money contracts (CC Sabathia’s 5/125 re-up being the latest), failed drafts, sh*t player development or even his horrific off-field personal behavior will lead to Cashman getting fired.

    Since Brian is obviously bullet proof when it comes to his career, I’m going to begin praying that his rope breaks this Christmas! Let’s see if he’s fall-from-the-top-of-a-10-story-building proof.

    • The Real Greg says:

      I have to stop you there. CC’s contract was not considered an albatross at the time. In fact people were clamoring for it.

      • CashmanSUX says:

        Nobody who paid any attention was “clamoring” for a new massive CC contract.

        Sabathia’s advanced metrics made it clear he was a pitcher headed in the wrong direction.

        His line-drive rate was soaring and he was missing fewer bats, and that was the year BEFORE he opted out. Cashman gave him 5/125 because he had completely failed to find a suitable replacement in the first three years of CC’s deal and he didn’t think he had a choice.

        Now the Yankees are stuck paying a guy who pitches like a #4 starter (at BEST) $25 million a year!

        • CashmanSUX says:

          PS. I say Cashman failed to “FIND” a suitable replacement for Sabathia because I think we have learned by now there’s no chance in hell Brian Cashman farm system is capable of actually DEVELOPING one.

      • trr says:

        what? who? certainly not me

    • jsbrendog says:

      dude, you need therapy

      • The Big City of Dreams says:

        Yea the last line is over the top.

        • CashmanSUX says:

          Over the top for you… But that’s a line every individual draws differently.

          The day Brian Cashman dies will be a great day, as far as I’m concerned… I just hope for one thing. SOON!

  27. JLC 776 says:

    Almost no movement across all of baseball but, no, it’s only our FO that’s completely inept.

    Got it.

  28. D23 says:

    Getting Young would have made us legit? No Grandy is best option over Moreau Pence Young and Rios. 60 games left, Yankees hwve to play at least .600 ball. Legit? Dunno but not impossible. Starts with CC and Andy. Moving forward and one game at a time.

  29. Gonzo says:

    For all the talk about it being a sellers market, anyone else disappointed by some of the returns? Not that I thought they were bad returns in a vacuum, but I thought there would be some decent overpays in what people are calling a sellers market.

    • jsbrendog says:

      oakland WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overpaid for callaspo IMO

      • CashmanNinja says:

        The A’s gave up much, much, MUCH more than Callaspo was worth. I like Callaspo a lot — as a utility guy (or a 3B on this team). But the guy the A’s gave up, while he may never stick at SS, has a great bat. A good team will find a way to get him into a lineup and the Angels did a fantastic job.

        • dkidd says:

          people were saying the a’s way overpaid for lowrie

          obviously bb is in GFIN mode

        • Gonzo says:

          He’s officially not a SS at this point and there are people that wonder if he could stick at 2b. I dunno, he could be a fringy bat for the OF. He turns 26 in 2 months and just hit the majors. Other than him being a 1st round pick (based on the SS position), I’m not seeing it.

      • Gonzo says:

        Really, I heard some scouts weren’t sold on Green for a long time. Was he ever a top 100 prospect recently?

        • CashmanNinja says:

          Not sold on Green as a SHORTSTOP…but his bat looks legit.

          • Gonzo says:

            He’s played 19 games at SS since 2011, he’s officially not a SS. No need to not be sold on him.

            He’s a 25 year old college bat in his second time through AAA. Still sold on the bat?

  30. Dro413 says:


    • JLC 776 says:

      Except for all of those years where he had us in last?

      Do you really think George Steinbrenner is the reason why Jeter, Bernie, Mo, Pettitte, Posada et al were grown from within the organization?

      He did a hell of a job trading for Gary Sheffield though.

    • BFDeal says:

      From 1973-2010 the Yankees finished first every year.

  31. Mike says:

    Is it possible to give Billy Beane all of Arod’s money once he’s suspended to come over here and build our farm system?

  32. EndlessJose says:

    Yes it wasn’t a deep market. When you have guys like Jason Nix and Vernon Wells guys like Young and Morneau look cheap.

  33. Pasqua says:

    No win situation foe Cashman. He would likely have had to overpay for a genuine upgrade (not to mention the lack of deals suggests a less than aggressive market) which would have raised the ire of the fan base, and doing nothing will be seen as a lack of effort and raise the ire of the fan base anyway. No anger here…the reality of the team (and the market) is what it is.

    • CashmanNinja says:

      I mentioned this as well a little while ago. No matter what he did he was going to piss fans off and that’s just silly. Unless a deal was gift wrapped and fell into his lap then there wasn’t any point in making a deal. Why give up so much for guys who simply aren’t worth it? It’s not smart baseball. And all this talk of “George Steinbrenner would have done something” is bull shit. So people here would be alright with Steinbrenner trading away Gary Sanchez, Mason Williams, and a decent arm for a guy who is nothing more than average/above average? No thanks.

  34. Eddard says:

    I just can’t for the life of me figure out why they stood pat today. There’s no way Cashman saves his job now. If it were up to him we wouldn’t have even gotten Soriano. Mariano gives them 20 good years and this is how they repay him, to not even try to make a run in his last season. If I’m Jeter I’m demanding a trade at season’s end.

    • A.D. says:

      If I’m Jeter I’m demanding a trade at season’s end.

      He can just decline his player option

    • Stanislaw says:

      Weren’t you calling this year a ‘lost season’ a few days ago?

      Jesus fucking christ, some of you are so goddamn bi-polar its ridiculous.

  35. Bruce says:

    I’m just disgusted. And I’ll leave it at that.

  36. A.D. says:

    Really surprised not more moves today, seemingly little reason a guy like Morse wasn’t moved

    • jsbrendog says:

      zdruniac or however you spell it is actually, imo, a pretty crappy gm. he is lucky his scouting team has had the chance to draft some crazy talented pitchers.

    • trr says:

      probably asking too much, what other reason could there be for a team/player like that

  37. Carl Fisher says:

    I have already lowered my expectations this year with respect to the Yankees. They did not make a deal but then again Gene Michael did not deal Bernie, Derek, Jorge, Andy, Mariano, etc. and the rest was history! We have three pitching prospects that will surface by 2016 to 2017 in DePaula, Hensly, and Clarkin. Eric Jagielo will be good so we will have a 3B and do not forget other prospects like Judge and others. If we are constantly active in the draft (drafting projected 6′s like Hensly and Clarkin) and raid the international draft with more picks due to not resigning anyone but Cano this year the Yankees could rebuild their farm system. Also, if we do it this way say hello to signing more free agents due to saved cash from building from within. This is called smart baseball and it is time that we do it! The Yankees will be very good by 2016 when most of these young guys are available and better free agents are available!

    • The Big City of Dreams says:

      You have more faith than I do. I just don’t see this organization producing players like that. I hope they do.

      • A.D. says:

        Agreed the prospects listed have ~1 year of minor league service time combined. Maybe 1 of DePaula, Hensly, Clarkin, Jagielo, or Judge pans out

        • The Big City of Dreams says:

          Maybe one does the problem is the Yankees are in a position where they need at least a few of them to work out. A couple of these guys have to be stars given where the team is going forward.

  38. Dro413 says:

    The Yankees were close to acquiring SHIT!! Bullshit trade rumors.

  39. Vern Sneaker says:

    My guess is everyone tried to rob Cashman blind and he wasn’t having any of it. If so, good for him. That wasn’t a very exciting market. I’d have for a true rebuilding blockbuster moving Cano but that clearly wasn’t in the cards.

    • SDB says:

      It’s the Yankees, I doubt a lot of GMs are going to miss a chance to extract whatever they can from a team that’s historically had such high payrolls and a track record of overpaying so often in desperation.

      We weren’t going to see trades like a Wil Myers equivalent for Shields/Davis.

      I wasn’t happy with the results, but looking at some of the other trades, I have no issues with Cashman letting things stand as they are. I’m just hoping Girardi gives Romine a chance to become the main catcher ahead of Stewart, now that he’s figuring out how to handle his bat.

  40. your mom says:

    No surprises here. Who in their right mind thought we’d actually upgrade on all our deficiencies by the deadline? It’s gonna take a minor miracle to sneak past Baltimore and Texas for the last WC spot. Can’t wait for that top 20 pick next June.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      It was going to take a minor miracle to be where this team is right now, yet here we are.

      I don’t count this team out, even if that move we wanted didn’t happen before the non-waiver deadline. It’s still the same dogfight it was always going to be this season.

  41. Troll Hunter says:

    The fact that a team that generates as much revenue as the Yankees is content to give Its fans the garbage they have playing third base should have every fan pissed off. The. Cubs pitchers have more homeruns than Yankee third basemen. What a pathetic joke.

  42. Frank says:

    Sometimes I read these comments and I have to laugh because it shows how little a lot of you know about his game. The Yankees are NOT making the playoffs this year, so why get rid of prospects (when we have so few anyway) to maybe make a run?

    We as fans need to look at the Long Term and this team HAS to get younger.

    There was no need for Cashman to make a move to just make a move. Granderson coming back is better then any move he could make. We got Soriano, so lets see how the next 2 months go

    • jsbrendog says:

      yup, just like the braves would never come back to win the wc or the phils woudl never catch the mets or any number of anything ever. this comment shows how little you know about baseball

      ycpb suzyn

      • jsbrendog says:

        that being said i don’t think they shouldve overpaid or necessarily done anything but to be as close as they are to a playoff spot with what they have and a now healthy jeter and a granderson soon it is more than possible. there are 2 freaking months left.

  43. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Who are we kidding? This team could be nine games ahead in first and people would be still be bitching about the team not doing exactly what they wanted at the deadline.

    Hey, I get it. I love the trade deadline. I was sitting at a meeting and, between 3:45 and 4:00, I did nothing but refresh the MLBTR app on my phone, hoping to get the Michael Young announcement, or some other surprise. The best I got was Bud Norris literally being traded for some Hoes.

    Am I disappointed? Yes. This is like Christmas, and I didn’t want Soriano to be the last present to open. Do I have any idea why the deals didn’t happen? Nope. Am I passing blame? Not when I saw what Callaspo went for. Not when neither a buyer OR seller’s market seemed to materialize at all for anyone. Callaspo got a decent second baseman. Ian Kennedy went for what seems to be a bunch of fodder. Little I read made sense today.

    But, hey, Placido Fucking Polanco was out there! Why didn’t they get him?! Cashman failed! Other than Michael Young, what name that was out there (and, no, your favorite prospect in some other team’s system no one talked about doesn’t count), was honestly an upgrade over just putting Nunez at third, God strike me down for saying that?

    Following the waiver wire may not be as sexy, but it could still be as effective. Otherwise, you don’t need to show up at the stadium. I still will.

  44. RetroRob says:

    I would be more annoyed if I was a Mariner fan and they didn’t cash in a Morales and/or Morse for some prospects.

  45. Coolerking101 says:

    Let’s be honest, trading Cano today was the only chance the Yanks had to get an impact prospect. In fact, it will be years until the Yanks have a player who can come near providing the sort of haul Cano would have brought in.

    While the Red Sox may have lucked into their trade with LA, at least they had the sense and cajones to waive the white flag and call it a year. Hal and co don’t have the sense to do the same.

  46. Adam says:

    I’m so glad we kept our farm system of stud prospects in tact. We have all our young promising hitters to look forward to, like Tyler Austin, Gary Sanchez, Mason Williams and…uh…

    • Stanislaw says:

      You do understand what the word ‘prospect’ means, right? Or am I underestimating your idiocy again?

  47. Gerald Williams says:

    It would have been nice to trade Joba for a bucket of balls. I just can’t stand him.

    It would have been nice to get some value for Hughes (I know it wouldn’t be much), but better then nothing if he leaves next year.

    Young would have been an upgrade, but that won’t make or break the rest of the year.

    Tough market this year guys. Let’s go to bat with what we’ve got and try to make a run. Only 3.5 back, they can do it.

    • Nat King Kong says:

      “Young would have been an upgrade, but that won’t make or break the rest of the year.”

      Remember you said that if we pick up 2.5 games in 2 months and the last game of the season, 9th inning, we’re down a run with bases loaded and …. David Adams at the plate.

    • JGYank says:

      Odds are just not good enough. Too many teams to pass. Lineup still sucks and probably won’t get much better if it even gets better at all. I think this was our last chance to improve and make a run but we whiffed. At least we didn’t mortgage the future.

  48. EndlessJose says:

    It’s funny how Cashman is proud he got Soriano the best bat yet he was against giving up overrated Cory Black for him.The Steinbrenner’s are cheap and Cashman likes to hold on to overrated prospects is why there so many holes on this team.

    • Stanislaw says:

      Dumb ass morons like you are what make me embarrassed to be a Yankee fan. For the love of the god I don’t believe in, pick another team to root for. You’re too fucking dumb to root for the Yankees.

  49. kcmiller8312 says:

    I’ve supported Brian Cashman, but after today, I’m done.

    I think it’s time to move in a new direction with how this team is managed.

    I will still be a fool and watch this team to the bitter because I never give up on the Yankees, but I just don’t want the Cashman regime anymore.

    Our farm system is still weak, the pitching in the system is not very good. I’m tired of being jealous of teams like the Rays because it seems like every month during the season, another young phenom sprouts up and stifles our beloved Yankees.

    Goodbye, Cashman. Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

    • Bo Knows says:

      If your going to play armchair GM, what would you have done? Who would you have traded for in this shit market that would make this team a true postseason contender? This isn’t directed just at you but to everyone who is cliff diving minus the parachute.

      To those who say they should have held a fire sell, what would you do next year when the team sucked? What about the year after, the year after that? It’s easy to talk “complete rebuild” when most of us have never had to live through one, note there is a reason why it took the Orioles 15 years of sucking before they became good, same with the 2 decades the Pirates took, or the A’s. There is also the fact the Royals, mets, Padres, countless other teams have been stuck in mediocrity trying to “rebuild.”

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores says:

        The Yankees, in theory would be rebuilding with money and lots of good young prospects.

        It wouldn’t be great next year, yeah, but honestly I doubt it’ll be particularly good next year anyway. The dynasty years are over. We won’t be good forever, just move on.

    • BFDeal says:

      I’ll take the championship flags over the Rays pitchers.

  50. JGYank says:

    Even if we were sellers, notice none of the big name prospects get traded. Teams want to hold on to them the same way we do when buying. Teams wouldn’t go after guys if they didn’t like the price so we wouldn’t get much for rentals. On top of that most prospects don’t pan out.

  51. Stanislaw says:

    Imagine the explosion here had they traded someone like Sanchez or DePaula for say, Hunter Pence. The same idiots who cry about how much the farm and Cashman sucks would be having a fucking fit. I imagine it would go something like:

    “I can’t fucking believe Cashman traded one of the Yankees best prospects for a rental player! He sucks so much!”

  52. CJ says:

    Great thread but people.. get real. To think that it would be a good idea to make a move just to make a move would be completely dumb and illogical. If you’re one of those Yankee fans that think we can and SHOULD win every year, stop wasting everyboy’s time with your rhetoric. The only plus part on this team is their pitching. And it’s only above average at best because Kuroda is having an outstanding year. Their offense is abysmal. They have no prospects and the injuries are ungodly.

    The last thing this team needs to be doing is to have the “win now” mode. I don’t want them to try and be competitive this year, or next year for that matter because if you look at it logically and realistically, it just simply is stupid baseball operations. I’m more aggrivated they didn’t sell any of the crap they have up at the major league level to get anything. A draft pick, prospects, anything. They should have traded Cano. Another A-rod contract coming up and that’s the last thing they need.

    Get it together people. Cashman and his crew are the brains to this organization. The problem lies with Randy Levine, Lonn Trost and whoever else thinks they can make baseball operation moves.

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