Aug
05

A-Rod and Cervelli among 13 players officially suspended for ties to Biogenesis

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As expected, Major League Baseball (finally) announced Alex Rodriguez has been suspended for the remainder of 2013 and all of 2014 for his involvement in the Biogenesis scandal. It’s officially a 211-game suspension, which is basically broken down in a 50-game first-time ban plus 161 games for interfering with the investigation. From the official release:

Rodriguez’s discipline under the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program is based on his use and possession of numerous forms of prohibited performance-enhancing substances, including Testosterone and human Growth Hormone, over the course of multiple years.  Rodriguez’s discipline under the Basic Agreement is for attempting to cover-up his violations of the Program by engaging in a course of conduct intended to obstruct and frustrate the Office of the Commissioner’s investigation.  The suspension, which will become effective on Thursday, August 8th, will cover 211 Championship Season games and any 2013 Postseason games in which Rodriguez otherwise would have been eligible to play.

Because he was suspended under the Joint Drug Agreement, A-Rod can file an appeal and play in the meantime. He will do just that, and, in a twisted coincidence, he will make his season debut against the White Sox in Chicago tonight. Here is Alex’s statement:

“I am disappointed with the penalty and intend to appeal and fight this through the process. I am eager to get back on the field and be with my teammates in Chicago tonight. I want to thank my family, friends and fans who have stood by myself through all this.”

And here is what David Cornwell, Rodriguez’s attorney, had to say:

“It is regrettable that the Commissioner’s office has taken this unprecedented action. Major League Baseball has gone well beyond the authority granted to its Joint Drug Agreement and the Basic Agreement. Consequently, we will appeal the discipline and pursue all legal remedies available to Alex.”

I wonder if that “all legal remedies available” line is an indication a lawsuit for … something, could be on the way. I guess we’ll find out eventually.

It was rumored Bud Selig would suspend Alex using the integrity clause in the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which would have kept him off the field even during an appeal, but that did not happen. Selig & Co. supposedly decided it would improve their case and better maintain labor peace by sticking with the discipline outlined in the JDA.

Rodriguez has three days to file the appeal, which is why his suspension does not officially begin until Thursday. The hearing must take place within 20 days of the appeal and a ruling must be handed down no later than 25 days after that. Frederic Horowitz will preside over the appeal. He was appointed baseball’s arbitrator last June after MLB fired Shyam Das for overturning Ryan Braun’s suspension. Horowitz can overturn or uphold the suspension, as well as reduce the number of games. This isn’t an either/or thing like salary arbitration.

Rodriguez’s camp insisted they would not discuss a plea agreement in recent weeks. MLB threatened to ban him for life using the integrity clause, but that was apparently nothing more than a bluff. A-Rod insinuated the league and the Yankees were conspiring to keep him off the field during a press conference following a recent minor league rehab game. The team responded with a strongly worded statement:

“We are in full support of Major League Baseball’s Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program. We also recognize and respect the appeals process. Until the process under the Drug Program is complete, we will have no comment. We are confident that the process outlined in the Drug Program will result in the appropriate resolution of this matter. In the meantime, the Yankees remain focused on playing baseball.

“However, we are compelled to address certain reckless and false allegations concerning the Yankees’ role in this matter. The New York Yankees in no way instituted and/or assisted MLB in the direction of this investigation; or used the investigation as an attempt to avoid its responsibilities under a player contract; or did its medical staff fail to provide the appropriate standard of care to Alex Rodriguez.”

Union head Michael Weiner contacted MLB on A-Rod’s behalf to talk about a settlement on Saturday, but was rebuffed. Alex contacted the team about buying out the four-plus years and $95M or so left on his contract but was told no dice due to the impending investigation and discipline. Weiner, who indicated a legal battle could drag into November or December, left no wiggle room when saying the union will stand behind it’s highest paid player:

“We believe that the Commissioner has not acted appropriately under the Basic Agreement. Mr. Rodriguez knows that the Union, consistent with its history, will defend his rights vigorously. We must revisit the JDA’s confidentiality provisions and consider implementing stricter rules for any breach.”

Players are not paid during drug suspensions, nor does their salary count against the luxury tax. A-Rod’s suspension would cost him approximately $34.2M if it started today, but his contract is front-loaded and his salaries decrease from 2013-2017. The longer the appeal takes and the further the suspension gets pushed back, the less he’ll lose. The Yankees have not been shy about their plan to get under the $189M luxury tax threshold starting next year, so shedding A-Rod’s $27.5M “tax hit” for all or part of the next few seasons would be a huge boon.

MLB is said to have “mountains” of evidence showing Rodriguez purchased and used performance-enhancing drugs from 2010-2012 with help from former Biogenesis chief Anthony Bosch. There hasn’t been much info on the evidence regarding his attempts to interfere with the investigation, however. Bosch agreed to cooperate with MLB to avoid a lawsuit, though he reportedly tried to extort a six-figure payout from the team’s third baseman first. A-Rod’s army of lawyers will surely look to discredit Bosch.

Considering his age (38), his two surgically repaired hips and overall declining skills, it’s hard to believe Alex will be able to return to the Yankees as a productive player following a lengthy suspension. Thanks to the cash savings, the team would be in a better position to negotiate a buyout of the remainder of his contract after the suspension. Well, it might be easier to swallow, I should say. It’s tough to think the suspension will be anything but a career-ender for A-Rod.

Among the other suspended players is Frankie Cervelli, who received a regular ol’ 50-game ban as a first time offender. His nature of his connection to Biogenesis is unclear. He accepted the penalty and will begin serving the suspension immediately, without appeal. Cervelli is expected to miss the rest of the season with lingering hand and elbow problems, and he’ll be allowed to serve the suspension while on the DL. The Yankees said they “are disappointed” and “it’s clear that he used bad judgment.”

Eleven other players were suspended in addition to A-Rod and Cervelli: Antonio Bastardo, Everth Cabrera, Nelson Cruz, Fautino De Los Santos (minors), Sergio Escalona (minors), Fernando Martinez (minors with Yankees), Jordan Norberto (free agent), Jhonny Peralta, Cesar Puello (minors), Jordany Valdespin (minors) and former Yankees farmhand Jesus Montero (minors). Yasmani Grandal and former Yankees Bartolo Colon and Melky Cabrera were not disciplined after serving 50-day suspensions within the last calendar year.

I wish I could say I’m glad this is all over and done with, but that’s not the case. Not even close. The appeal ensures this will drag on for another few weeks and I’m guessing there will still be regular A-Rod updates even after that. The good news is that we are a big step closer to getting some closure though. The Biogenesis stuff has been in the headlines far too long and is taking a lot away from the games on the field. It’s great MLB is going to such great lengths to clean up the game, but make no mistake, it is coming at a cost.

Categories : STEROIDS!
  • trr

    So, let him play out the rest of the season, we’ll squeeze whatever juice is left from this particular lemon, then leave the husk to decay next year.

    • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

      Icwudt

  • RobA

    The fact that the previous arbiter was fired for overturning the Braun case kind of hurts Arods chances for a fair appeal, no?

    • trr

      Why would you say that?

      • Joe

        Gotta hire the guy that will rule in MLBs interest of course.

        • Andy in Sunny Daytona

          The Players Association can fire arbiters as well.

          • Gonzo

            Bingo. It’s a right that both sides have and can do at anytime.

        • LK

          The union had to approve the new arbiter.

          Also, MLB represents a fraction of any arbiter’s total business. For an arbiter to compromise his integrity and favor MLB could completely jeopardize his career. I expect this process to be nothing less than fair to both sides.

          • trr

            Exactly

          • mac1

            You know that for a fact?

            • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

              Sigh. The general lack of comprehension of our legal system, generally accepted principles for arbitration, contract law, and labor law, is breath taking.

              • Frankbtxt

                Oh, did you really sigh or was that just a way for you to add some extra snark to your response? I have an idea, why don’t you kindly forgive all those who aren’t as well versed in arbitration and contract law as you and maybe explain what you know? Maybe do that instead of coming off like a total prick.

                That would be breath taking. Thanks.

                • Jarrod

                  Well said.

            • Gonzo

              Yes it’s a fact.

              • mac1

                Great, show us what percentage Horowitz makes from mlb vs. the rest of his clients.

                • LK

                  Any arbiter doesn’t get the majority of his business from one client, as that would be a massive conflict of interest. There’s also the fact that not a single player actually went to salary arbitration last season, so this is the first MLB arbitration case since Braun’s appeal, meaning the arbiter would basically have to never work at all in order for MLB to be a large percentage of his business. And the fact that the union can fire the arbiter too.

                  But, feel free to continue to condescendingly ask for information that isn’t actually public to try to undermine a point that is obvious to people who actually have experience within the arbitration process.

                  • mac1

                    You have recited what you read in a book or someone told you.

                    Don’t be so positive about things that you have no first hand information on.

                    • LK

                      I’ve actually worked on high-stakes arbitration cases before. But, I’m fine with you being skeptical. As far as you know, I am just some dude on the internet, after all.

                    • Gonzo

                      Hey LK, it’s not like we are stopping him from researching the topic on his own. Some people choose their position and jam all the facts in their favor regardless of truth.

                    • Caballo Sin Nombre

                      Anyone with an MBA from a decent institution should have taken a basic course on labor relations, which covers arbitration. I certainly had to.

                      You may choose to reject “book knowledge” out of hand, but that would merely make you an uninteresting person with whom to have any further discussion. No one else really wants to recite to you the entirety, or even a subset, of generally accepted, easily accessible human knowledge.

      • Betty Lizard

        Why wouldn’t you say that?

        Hence the three arbitrator situation in many contracts: yours, mine and “ours.”

        • trr

          Because the arbitrator nust be approved by the Player’s Union as well, Betty.

          • Betty Lizard

            Point taken but still not the best situation from the player’s perspective.

            In my opinion of course.

  • Mark from Chicago

    Mike – how can Cervelli begin serving his 50-game suspension this year when he’s not even medically able to play? That seems rather odd.

    • Fernando

      Manny Ramirez, Braun and others were allowed to serve suspensions while injured. This allows the player to serve suspension while injured, which means he does not get paid.

      • Mark from Chicago

        Makes sense…thx

      • RetroRob

        …plus, if they didn’t allow the suspension to be served while the player was on the DL, using Cervelli as an example, all the Yankees would have do to do is activate him, and then he would serve the 50 games.

  • bkight13

    I still think Selig should’ve gone with the “Best interests of Baseball” hammer and kept ARod off the field while the appeals happen. ARod had no choice but to appeal any suspensions and him playing tonite is the ultimate joke of the whole scandal. ARod has just as good a chance of reducing this suspension as he does the BiB suspension. He was never just going to quietly walk away from all that money.

    • jim p

      I’d bet A-Rod will play during the appeal process while on PEDs. Including tonight. What are they going to do? Suspend him?

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        Heh. I double suspend you!!

    • RetroRob

      He attached a letter to the recent CBA saying he would not use the BI clause to suspend a player without hearing. It would have caused more damage if he went that route, and why bother? He has handed down a stiff penalty. A-Rod has the right to appeal. No reason to remove that basic right even if we all believe he’s guilty.

      • bkight13

        How would that fight be any more damaging than seeing Alex play his first game the day he is suspended. I would have worked behind the scenes with the MLBPA to assure them that this was a one time deal. This could be adjudicated in the off season without the circus that will follow the Yankees and MLB for the next month, when the focus should be on the pennant races, PITT, CLE, OAK, Trout, Puig, Harper and Machado.

        • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

          Handing emergency powers over to the chancellor is always supposed to the a one time deal, temporary. That never works out. No effing way is what you’re describing remotely possible. Waaaay too long a history of bitterness and distrust.

          Things are decent today between the league and union, but don’t misread that. But don’t misread that as extending deeper than it does.

          • Dr. TJ Eckleberg

            The Emporer and Darth Vader liked this comment a few seconds ago.

          • VT Yankee Fan

            Too many people insist on making the same mistakes that others have made over and over.

        • RetroRob

          What’s wrong with A-Rod exercising his rights to defend himself and continue to play during that process? That’s the agreement.

          Now if Selig went back on his promise, that would cause potential damage between MLB and the Players’ Union. No need to do that.

          The process is working.

          • Wolfgang’s Fault

            No, it isn’t. It’s been determined by MLB that he’s a juicer and now it’s up to the arbitrator to decide if the evidence holds up and the suspension is just. While that goes on, A-Roid should be forced to sit it out, his salary held in escrow, & if he’s vindicated, he gets the money, & he returns to the game. If not, he serves his full suspension & no harm no foul to the integrity of the game. Whatever time he would be forced to miss should be understood & respected by one and all as being in the best interests of the game. No player who is initially determined to have been guilty of gambling or juicing should be permitted to play while their respective appeal plays out. To do otherwise really is contrary to the best interests of the game.

            • LK

              Guilty until proven innocent, eh?

              • Wolfgang’s Fault

                Hey asshole, he was just found guilty! He’s now appealing MLB’s guilty verdict. The NFL and Patriots should permit Aaron Fernandez to play until he’s proven guilty, right Little Kock?

                • LK

                  LOL. Looks like we’ve got a mature one on our hands!

                  • Wolfgang’s Fault

                    Yeah, & you’re a crusading civil libertarian fighting the man trampling on the virtuous Alex Rodriguez’s “rights.” There’s not enough Charmin’ to wipe you up with.

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      LMAO

                      You’re 100% right. These people rushing to defend the innocent and virtuous Aroid really need to pull their heads out of their asses.

                • Steve (different one)

                  Totally analogous situations, good point.

                • Jarrod

                  The name calling isn’t required but I agree with you. It’s no different to a convicted criminal appealing the judgement, s/he sits in prison while they await the decision regarding the appeal.

                  Thing is, in this case the rules say he can play while appealing. Can’t/shouldn’t change the rules regardless of the douche bag we are dealing with.

    • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

      It’s because Selig is a pussy, through and through.

      He couldn’t get a lifetime ban upheld. It would’ve led to even worse mud slinging than we’re going to see via regular appeal. Backing away from the threat of it also helps reduce the risk of the penalty being seen as an over reach. It would’ve ultimately jeopardized baseball’s antitrust exemption bc ARod would’ve spent untold gazillions on attorneys doing everything in his power to go after MLB and Selig. And it would’ve soured relations between MLB and the PA.

      No. No way does Selig have the stomach for any of that.

      • Betty Lizard

        Personally, I prefer “twatwaffle” (which I regard as appropriate for any gender) to describe Selig.

        • Sweet Dick Willie

          Is that a verb or a noun? Or can I use it as either?

          • Caballo Sin Nombre

            I like it better as a verb, as in “stop the twatwaffling already!”

  • BTG

    What happens if the appeal drags on for a month or so? Will the games missed during the interim be added to the 2015 season?

    • Gonzo

      If held up, yes.

    • 28 this year

      Yes and that is good. Saves the Yankees future payroll money which from my standpoint is more useful considering this season is basically a hope and prayer. Might as well get the benefit of A-Rod’s suspension later and not now when his bat coudl be useful.

  • aluis

    162 on top of the 50 seems excessive. I would not be surprisd if it was reduced considerably. IMHO

    • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

      As I posted below, very much agreed. They gave Melky zero games for the website. Not the same thing obviously, but zero is a bad precedent here if you’re Selig.

    • Matt L

      Could not agree more. From Life to 1.5 seasons is already a victory for the guy. The fact that he can play during the appeal and that the length of the appeal is completely arbitrary and outside the parameters of the CBA, any sane arbiter has to lower the suspension.

    • Jarrod

      Agree 100%. Can’t see MLB getting this to stand up. Expect a significant reduction.

  • RBC

    I thought the arbitrator couldn’t tack on more games to the suspension?

    @Mark – The CBA allows players who are on the DL to serve their suspensions while on the DL.

    • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

      It would be extremely unusual for the arbitrator to add. Almost all arbitration hearings that are not either/or wind up in the middle.

    • Mister D

      Edinson Volquez did this.

  • trr

    Per the article it will be whatever the Arbitrator decides.

  • Jay

    Hey Mike,

    Sorry to nail you with these questions, so if it takes 25 days exactly to get the judgement does that get tacked on to the end of the ban? They keep saying that if excepted it would last until the end of 2014, because he is appealing does the days that he technically should have been serving this year get added to the beginning of 2015?

    • Gonzo

      Yes, if held up in it’s entirety, the ban would bleed into the 2015 season.

  • Fernando

    These will be A-Rod’s last games with the Yankees. I am convinced that the team will look to buy him out after the suspension. Everyone has had enough of this circus already and he pretty much sealed his fate by publicly saying the team wanted to terminate his contract. Suspension or not, he is still going to also get his FULL amount of deferred payments from the Texas Rangers.

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      Odds are he will get his FULL contract from the Yankees. Of what benefit is it to him to take less?

  • thenamestsam

    I’m not a lawyer or anything like it but it seems to me like ARod might have a decent chance of getting this reduced in arbitration just because the length of the suspension is so totally arbitrary and because the additional games for the “obstruction and frustration” portion of the suspension are so much greater than the penalty for the actual violation. Unless they have some serious hard evidence in that regard I find it hard to believe that they’re going to be able to give him a full season on top of the 50 games which mostly seems to be punishment for being such a royal pain in Bud Selig’s ass.

    • Gonzo

      It’s going to be interesting. I wonder if there’s a precedent.

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        This is the problem. The is a precedent: they gave Melky Cabrera zero games for the website shenanigans. Not equating that to what ARod did or the extent, but if you’re Selig right about now you’re wishing you’d tacked on at least something, say 5 or 10 games, for that.

        • Gonzo

          I thought about that. They had a positive test on Melky, and I’m not sure if that changes anything.

    • RetroRob

      It wouldn’t be shocking at all if it was reduced. I don’t know by how much, though, but it could be reduced. My guess is it will. Yet perhaps they will simply reduce it by the number of games played until the hearing. He might play 20 games before the arbitrator’s ruling who will then upheld the suspension through 2014, but not add on the 20 games played in 2015.

      Who knows!

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        This exact reduction crossed my mind as well.

    • mac1

      Yep, where are Melky’s extra games suspended for his web antics?

      • BeanTooth

        Clearly what ARod allegedly did is far worse in the eyes of MLB. It’s nice to think it’s a simple vendetta, but considering how things have gone so far, I’m guessing the evidence against ARod makes what Melky pulled look merely silly and dumb.

        • gc

          More likely MLB chose the “bigger fish” to make an example of.

  • biorevelation

    Could Arod play in a foreign market like Japan while suspended next year?

    • bkight13

      I’m pretty certain that would void his Yankees contract.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Pretty sure it’s the norm for MLB player contracts either outright forbid that or have stipulations that if you get hurt your contract is void.

  • Dalek Jeter

    I’m just saying…hiring and firing arbitrators for agreeing or disagreeing with you screams Fox News’ definition of “fair and balanced”

    • Gonzo

      Not really. If you have a fundamental disagreement with someone about what a contract means in one case, you probably don’t want him handling any of your other cases.

  • Captain Turbo

    The fact the MLB hires and fires the arbitrator shows that this whole thing is farce. Selig should resign in disgrace.

    • Darren

      YUP. Not to say Arod is innocent, but the whole process is so effed up that it’s like watching two pigs wrestle in a pile of shit. Even the winners stink.

    • lightSABR

      As mentioned in the comments above, both MLB and the players’ union have to agree on the arbiter, and either side can fire him at any time. He’s not the commissioner’s stooge.

  • Grover

    All said and done I would rather have Arod at third than anything they have trotted out there this year. I hope he hits the cover off the ball or at least gets the Yanks through to Youkillis’ return and helps get the wild card.

    • Fernando

      Youklis isn’t returning. That was a colossal waste of 15 million.

    • The Other Sam

      Yep, a few fruitless wins takes precedence over, oh I don’t know…morality, integrity, standards. Prorities man.

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        Lulz. Like Selig’s principles and banning ARod for life? Oh. Right.

        How about hypocrisy? Self serving about faces? Oh. Right.

        • YanksFan

          You will please stop with your hypocrisy argument. It holds no water as Slugger & MBW mentioned last week.

          Selig may have known in the 90′s. Players did it. Everyone benefited. Putting aside that steroids were ILLEGAL under US Law.

          The union finally agreed to testing. Let’s not forget Orza equated roids with cigarettes. They had their sample to see if they could go on. Arod failed it along with numerous others. Once again no suspensions as part of the agreement.

          There is now a signed agreement which much be enforced. Players have been suspended since this new agreement.

          So, I beg for you to stop this in every thread about the subject. There is no context to place this in for your argument to hold water. I’ve spelled it out here just like it was spelled out to you last week.

          • Manny’s BanWagon

            He seems like a halfway intelligent guy though I Have no idea why he must beat this “hypocrisy” theory into the ground when it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

  • bkight13

    With the HoF now out the picture, I think Alex will hang around to get his 3000 hits and top Mays’ 660 HRs. It’s all he has left.

  • LK

    I might be wrong about this, but I thought under the JDA any suspensions are supposed to be confidential until after the appeal process is completed (not that it would matter at this point anyway).

    Well, hopefully we’re closer to the end of all this. If the Yanks do get out of the contract for 2014, I hope it allows them to field a competitive team, because that looks like a long shot right now.

  • Game Overbay

    The *real* lesson to be taken from this whole story is that you can take all of these so called banned substances and pass all of the drug screenings. As long as you cover your tracks appropriately you’re good to go.

    The appropriate solution is to be progressive and allow players to utilize biochemical technology, that is freely and legally available, at their own discretion.

    Also… is it just me, or is that list heavily populated with Yankees/Former Yankees?

    • LK

      Bingo.

      There’s also 2 Mets and Fernando Martinez is a formet Met. The list seems very NY-heavy as well as Yankee-heavy.

      • Brian Strawman

        It’s more Dominican Republic based. These drugs are legal to buy in a pharmacy in the Latin countries.

    • bkight13

      That is part of the reason for such a big suspension. Alex supposedly recruited other guys for BioGenisis.

      And I do not want to MLB to legalize PED’s. If someone wants to start another league that allows it, let them try. Baseball has never needed PED’s, it is better game without them.

      • LK

        “Baseball has never needed PED’s.”

        The late-90s beg to differ.

        • bkight13

          Baseball was back with the Ripken record in 1995 and the Yankees becoming relevant again. The McGwire/Sosa chase in ’98 was big, but it wasn’t the end-all be-all everyone makes it out to be. Baseball never needed steroids, but did a terrible job of looking the other way.

          • Gonzo

            Oh you mean the Ripken that broke one of the longest standing and most sacred records in the game in the 90′s Ripken?

            Not saying he wasn’t clean, but both HR records (career and season) were fresher than the record he broke.

            • Game Overbay

              Every Corticosteroid injection that Ripken got over the course of his career is a performance enhancer that the Iron Horse wasn’t privy to in his time… therefore under the current thought process he cheated to get his record.

              • Kevin

                This!

          • gc

            You’re kidding, right? RIght or wrong, that ’98 home run chase made baseball THE headline and one of the top news stories every single day for a very long time. Ripken’s record was nice and it sure made people feel good, but all he had to do is show up to work every day. This was two guys (three before Griffey faded) who were putting on a show each and every night. The nation was riveted on baseball in a way it hadn’t been for a very very long time.

            • bkight13

              You’re missing the point. There were a lot of factors in MLB becoming strong again in the late 90′s. Ripken, the Yankees, new state of the art ballparks, Fantasy Baseball and YES, all the HRS helped MLB come back from 1994. But steroids were only one of the factors and all the gains made would’ve have happened without them. America has always loved baseball.

              • LK

                I was born in the late-80s, and from my memory the ’98 home run chase was absolutely EVERYWHERE, and no other baseball story even came remotely close. I was living less than an hour away from Baltimore when Ripken broke the record and even there McGwire/Sosa was a much, much bigger story. If you think the ‘roids didn’t help the game become as popular as it is today you’re kidding yourself.

                • bkight13

                  I’m saying it was a factor, but Baseball was already back. It really never went away. Everyone was pissed in 1994 with the lockout, but we all came right back, especailly when the Yankees started winning again.

                  • LK

                    Yes, *we* came back because the Yankees started winning all the time, but MLB as a whole absolutely needed the HR chase to get to where it is today. There’s also the point that many players on those winning Yankees teams, including Andy Pettitte, used PEDs, but we can leave that aside for now.

                  • gc

                    You do know there were a whole lotta baseball fans around the country who couldn’t care less that the Yankees started winning again, right? They weren’t even an instant success in New York! It took until 1999 before the team drew over 3 million fans.

                    1995 – 1,705,263
                    1996 – 2,250,877
                    1997 – 2,580,325
                    1998 – 2,955,193
                    1999 – 3,292,736

              • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores

                I totally disagree. Those other factors helped, but like everybody else I remember that era for the home run chases and Barry Bonds’s monster years. Even the Yankee championships paled in comparison.

                • OldYanksFan

                  I agree. Watching Bonds that last month was absolutely riveting. It was almost otherworldly, watching Bonds take 10 balls in a row, and then hitting a HR on the first pitch over the plate.

              • Caballo Sin Nombre

                I don’t know why you are so fixated on Ripkin. He broke the most boring record ever. This was the baseball equivalent of the Perfect Attendance award that girl with the stringy hair got back in middle school.

      • Game Overbay

        The players of the 80′s throw their coke in the ring
        The players of the 70′s throw their greenies in the ring
        The players of the 60′s throw their speed in the ring

        Oh… and I forgot the most blatant one of all… Corticosteroids!

        How is that *NOT* a PED?

        You take an injured athlete that cannot perform… inject him with this drug… and BLAMM-O… now they can perform. Without that you’d have players on the DL more often, and for longer durations.

        • Game Overbay

          Point is… any athletic endeavor ever, in the entire history of man, has people looking for the next edge to bring them victory… to put your head in the sand and make believe there was some hallowed “pure” era when everything was all roses and sunshine in baseball is total delusion.

          • Celerino Sanchez

            I think you are missing the point. Getting an edge legally – like doing something as simple as getting a good night’s sleep instead of going out partying – is way different than some guys juicing and others playing with only their God given talent. I truly do understand people trying to gain a competitive advantage (how’s about preparing more; watching more video; working harder?) but at some point trying to get that advantage, like this, doesn’t pass the smell test and you just know it’s wrong. If you think it’s all OK I respect your opinion. I just don’t think it’s fair to the guys who aren’t doing it.

            • Game Overbay

              My question for you is…

              Why do you consider Testosterone Replacement, HGH, and even steroids cheating, while things like BCAA supplementation, fast uptake Protein supplementation, NoX, Creatine and Creatine precursors, etc. are not cheating?

              • Celerino Sanchez

                I answered this one in another post below. Here it is again:

                Because some people don’t want to shoot that crap into their bodies when they don’t know the long term effects. Using a new bat is available to everyone without worrying about whether you might be dead 20 years sooner if you use it.

              • Celerino Sanchez

                If it tips the scales but isn’t truly available to everyone (i.e. those who want to play straight) then it’s cheating in my book.

                If you disagree that’s OK. Just two differing opinions.

                • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

                  That to me is some bizarre cherry picking blinders you’re wearing.

        • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

          Thank you.

          That said, some people will never get it.

        • bkight13

          All those things existing doesn’t mean Baseball needs them. To look the other way makes the guys trying to do it clean the victims. There are more than enough baseball players in the world to whine about the percentage that needs to cheat.

          • Game Overbay

            Is using new Helmet technology cheating?
            Is using new Bat technology cheating?
            Is using biomechanics and motion tracking cheating?
            Is using new Glove technology cheating?
            Is using new nutritional supplementation cheating?

            Point is, every piece of gear that these athletes wear is a performance enhancer… why is biotechnology singled out as the one avenue of progress that is deemed “cheating”?

            • bkight13

              That’s just stupid. Everyone playing has the same opportunity to use new technology. Injecting illegal drugs into your body that make you bigger, stronger and faster is completely different.

              • LK

                Who didn’t have the same opportunity to inject illegal drugs in their system to make them bigger, stronger, and faster?

                • bkight13

                  Yeah, break the law, risk your career and your long term health. What a great opportunity. I should be rich because I have the opportunity to rob banks and sell drugs. Child please.

                  • LK

                    How many of players who used PEDs were arrested? How many of them “risked” their careers? You really think taking ‘roids in MLB in the late-90s was a risk to your earning potential? Talk about child, please.

            • Celerino Sanchez

              Because some people don’t want to shoot that crap into their bodies when they don’t know the long term effects. Using a new bat is available to everyone without worrying about whether you might be dead 20 years sooner if you use it.

              • Game Overbay

                No… new technology isn’t available to everyone.

                A kid coming up in a poor neighborhood won’t have access to the same facilities/equipment that someone w/ wealthy parents does… so should we mandate the use of the same equipment across the board for all little leagues, H.S.’s, colleges, and the minor league?

        • YanksFan

          There it is being prescribed by a doctor to get the human body to normal levels. Not above those levels.

          You really want to compare coke to steroids? Coke ILLEGAL in the US. It also brings down performance, not increase it.

        • Wolfgang’s Fault

          Take steroids out of the game completely, take weight lifting out of the game almost completely, stress skills, craft, flexibility, nutrition, and more serious commitment to player development going all the way to the sandlot and little leagues, and you’d have better baseball players and much fewer injuries. Years ago, kids were told never to lift weights if they wanted to play baseball. Then sluggers such as Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Killebrew, Frank Robinson, Eddie Matthews (among others) and power pitchers such as Koufax, Gibson, Seaver, Carlton came to capture the games’ imagination, & gaining strength & power, even if it came at the end of a syringe, were the surefire ways to make your bones & bank account in this game. Most of the injuries to players today are due to players getting too muscular and amped up & their arms & legs snapping due to the torque and lack of flexibility. Once the dough went to finding and signing the juicers and gym rats, the average sized players w/skills were judged passe.

    • Chris in Maine

      It would seem to me that that this could be evidence of Arod’s alleged recruitment of players to Biogenesis.

      • C

        The JDA says that the penalty for a first offense for participation in the sale or distribution of PEDs is between 80-100 games. So even if he did recruit players to Biogenesis, I don’t see how he can get more than 150 games (100 for distribution plus 50 for taking PEDs).

        • lightSABR

          Two possibilities:

          1) Penalty for obstruction of the investigation.

          2) Multiple counts of participation in the sale or distribution of PEDs.

      • JRod

        Why in the world would A-Rod actively “recruit” anyone to Biogenesis? It would just expose him to more potential witnesses and make it more likely he’d get caught. Clearly he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but it seems absurd that he would do that.

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    I’m sure he’ll receive a “warm” welcome in Chicago

  • Brian Strawman

    211 game suspension will be reduced, there is no precedent for this random number. MLB will be lucky to get 100

    • King George

      Actually, it’s not random at all. It’s the remainder of this season and next season.

      • LK

        It’s random from the viewpoint of the CBA, which is what the arbiter’s ruling will be based on.

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    Robbie is licking his lips right now.

    189 just got a whole lot more doable for the Yankees.

    • Brian Strawman

      What if Robinson is not clean? Seriously. How are teams supposed to negotiate long term contracts with this question?

      • Deathstroke Heathcott

        Teams should really start negotiating in “PED clauses”. Like some portion of the money is only owed as long as you don’t get caught taking PEDs.

    • bkight13

      I think it makes long term mega contracts even more dangerous. MIL has to live with the Braun stain for at least 7 more years. LA has Pujhols and Hamilton for 8 years. I wouldn’t lock up these older guys especially now that the “natural” aging process is more likely.

  • Chris

    What impact does arod being suspended for all of next year have on the teams luxury tax number? Does his 30+ mil come off the amount, thus assisting (greatly) in the team possibly getting under the 189 mark and resetting their luxury tax amount?

    • Jarrod

      ARod is owed $25mil next year and should the suspension be upheld, he will not be paid and this figure will not count toward the Yankees payroll.

  • Max

    I just want to say that for him to Go about things this way and not just take the suspension is a bit an absolute insult to every fan of the Yankees posting on this site. I don’t care if he hits 20 HR’s and throws us back in the race, his 3 week season takes away from guys like Moe who never did anything wrong and who this season should be about. I am glad we will save money I am glad I never have to talk about A-Roid again after 3 weeks but to go out this way for whatever personal reasons is a middle finger to me as a fan to everyone here. I will be there Friday booing till I am blue in the face I hope that fans can look at this and use his nonsense to bring some excitement to this team even if it is at this expense (sadly the one good thing is the stadium may actually be loud again even if its just fans screaming at A-rod).

    • The Other Sam

      x2. This team may not be much, but they’re out there every game doing the best they can ON THEIR OWN, without drugs. What an insult that A Rod forces his demand to be on the field and the distracting circus that comes with it on the rest of us.

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        Really? The rest of the team is clean? You sure? Why? The testing?

        • The Other Sam

          Just saying they weren’t involved in this sleazy Biogenesis mess. And if Overbay is using the junk, he sure isn’t getting his money’s worth.

          • LK

            Montero has hit worse than even most people on the Yankees’ team this year. You can be on steroids and totally suck. Do you really think Biogenesis was the only clinic of its kind?

      • LK

        You realize Cervelli played in games this year right? And is 4th among position players in fWAR?

    • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

      Not an insult to me. Thanks though!

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      The fact that he is exercising his legal right shouldn’t be an insult to anyone who respects the rule of law.

      • Wolfgang’s Fault

        That’s crap & you know it. No one has any right to be a major league baseball player. A big league player is required to conform to the laws of the greater society around them and the rules of the league they play in. The ruling body of the sport has just moved to suspend this guy for actions he’s taken that violate MLB’s rules. As such, he has the right to appeal, but due to the implications of his offense(s) and how it bears on fair competition and players playing on a level playing field, he should be forced to sit out ’til he’s cleared by the arbitrator.

        Does he challenge the findings that he used steroids/hgh, or is his challenge related to the length of the suspension? The question is important for obvious reasons. If he admits using, & we know he was shown the evidence against him, then he has to sit out until the arbitrator says the suspension is voided or the suspension is completed. He’s exercising his right to appeal, but due to the nature of his offense, he should be forced off the field until the arbitrator rules.

  • Brian Strawman

    The real story, and the reason Mr. Selig is so pissed is that A Rod and the rest just showed the drug test is useless and meaningless. These guys were juicing and were not caught with drug test, their names were in a notebook at a clinic. How many other clinics are there in US and DR? What does this say about Chris Davis? Selig better hope Davis does not come close to 61 HR.

  • Hall and Nokes

    I’m not sure that even a fully vindicated Alex has 211 games left in that body, so does the length of the suspension really matter?

  • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

    As a Yankees fan it’s a bit alarming how many current or former Yankees are caught up in this I count 5 out 12. Which brings me to question the Yankees I can’t believe that no one knew nothing about this.

    Another side bar how does the Montero/Pineda trade look now?

    Montero is now an injured, PED suspended, non- catcher, who bat wasn’t good enough to keep him in MLB.

    I’m NOT saying the Yankees have won the trade because Pineda hasn’t pitched in MLB yet, but still it looks a lot better then when Pineada went down with the shoulder injury

    • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

      For the record I think A-Rod is probably going to play the rest of the year and get 162 games meaning out for 2014. That seems like the fairest thing.

      Wouldn’t be hilarious if somehow A-Rod carries this team to the playoffs or even better a championship.

      I would just love to see that not only as a Yankees fan, but also as human being.

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        Talk about the has been award…wow!

    • mac1

      Trade still looks bad, the question should be what else could have the Yanks gotten for Montro at the time?

      • Deathstroke Heathcott

        This.

  • NeilT

    In 25 days, we’ll know for sure what is happening, right? There’s no further course for appeal (at least as far as MLB goes).

    Assuming the ban gets upheld (and judging by the noises being made by MLB, I imagine it will), would you rather:

    (a) A-Rod mashes during his limited playing time. Say .300/.370/.450 with 6-8 homers. Yanks go 16-9 and drag themselves back into it.

    (b) A-Rod is meh, but better meh than 3B so far. .270/.330/.400 meh with 4-6 homers. Yanks go 14-11, and still stay a just far enough back to not give up yet even though it’s September.

    (c) A-Rod sucks, and gets benched in favor of Nunez/Lillibridge/Adams/whoever. Yanks go 10-15 and disappear down the drain. A resurgent Jays squad looks like relegating them to last.

    • Oy

      Seems very far fetched that a .300/.370/.450 hitter would be worth 6 wins over a below replacement player during the next 25 games.

    • RetroRob

      I would like A-Rod to bat 1.000 when he’s playing for the Yankees.

      • JMK

        Seriously. How is this a real question?

    • Celerino Sanchez

      Seems like it could be as long as 45 days. 20 for the hearing and 25 for the ruling. Seeing how this thing has played out, I bet A-Rod’s people try to put off the hearing until the 20th day. Not sure if the arbitrator would rule quickly or drag it out as well.

  • Celerino Sanchez

    How could Michael Weiner say that MLB did not act properly under the Basic Agreement when all the rest of these guys are basically accepting their punishments. If anything, MLB may have erred on the side of caution. I bet the efforts to obstruct the investigation and to try and buy evidence and destroy it are legit and probably worse than reported. Eventually all of this will come to light. Just like with Don Fehr and the union’s stance against drug testing in the 90′s. Such a bunch of hypocrites. Not that the owner’s weren’t complicit as well. But I’m just so sick of the union leadership rushing to defend the guilty guys while the rank and file have basically said that their sick of the cheaters and want them out.

  • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

    - So much for Selig’s “principles.” Pussy.

    - Assuming Mike is correct and that the suspension breaks down as 50 for drug violation and 162 for obstruction, there is NO WAY the 162 games for obstruction gets upheld since they gave Melky exactly ZERO games for his website shenanigans. Not saying they’re the same thing or done to the same extent, but Selig made a major boo boo here by not tacking on games for Melky. That precedent will come back to bite him. My guess is that that part gets knocked down to 50, for 100 total, or to 100, for 150 total. Max.

    - For those saying ARod would never play another game, how do you like your crow served?

    • Mickey Scheister

      It sounds like MLB has less proof A-Rod meddled in the investigation than Melky did in his, you hit it on the head with the precedent previously set for a comparable infractions. I’d be surprised if even 150 stood up, I can see 50-100 with the 75 middle ground being agreed upon as a compromise.

      • Celerino Sanchez

        If so, then MLB really didn’t have much or they blew it.

        Should have just gone for the whole enchilada. If they really knew they weren’t going for the lifetime ban then they should never have hinted at it. Nothing worse for your credibility than having your bluff called…

        • Bo Knows

          Actually its the perfect tactic to use, hell its a common tactic with most law enforcement agencies to threaten more severe repercussions to get people to relent, even flat out deceive that they have more evidence than they actually do to get people to cop to a lesser penalty.

    • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

      I like my crow BBQ.
      LOL

      • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

        Pulled too?

    • JRod

      This. Also there’s the fact that Melky’s website was a priori proof of his blatant and outrageous attempt to obstruct the investigation, while the alleged evidence of A-Rod’s attempt at obstruction sounds like basically hearsay to this point. Who knows, they may present more evidence, but if they have evidence of obstruction, wait are they waiting for? I agree, the suspension is likely to get knocked down to 100 games, still double what others received.

    • Brian Strawman

      Agree. 50, 100 likely, 150 max

  • Brian Strawman

    According to Ken Davidoff, AROd has hired his own private investigators to dig up dirt on Yankees and MLB. This could get ugly.

    • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

      You mean its not ugly yet.
      LOL

    • King George

      Would you mind linking that? I didn’t see it on his Twitter and it wasn’t mentioned in any of today’s articles. Thank you in advance.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      Glad to see Howie Spira’s finally got work again after all those years!

    • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

      I told him to hire Howie Spira

    • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

      “dig up dirt on Yankees”

      ??? just how many crazy mistresses does Cashman have?

  • Mickey Scheister

    No way it sticks, everyone else gets 50 and A-Rod gets 211? MLB has a lot more to prove than A-Rod does for this to stick. It’ll probably be negotiated down to 100 games and I wouldn’t be surprised to see 50 games after its all said and done.

  • Eddard

    I’ve said all along that what Alex should do is appeal, play the rest of the season, work out a b/o with the Yankees and retire. Both sides get what they want. Selig tried to use scare tactics saying A-Rod couldn’t appeal and play during appeal, and obviously he backed down.

    • bkight13

      I think Alex wants the 99 hits to get to 3000 and the 14 HRs to pass Mays. Plus he wants all of the money he is due.

  • Greg

    Mike – a couple of questions. First, why not also the 2014 playoffs? Second, is it really 211 games, or just thru 2014? If it’s the former, then the penalty is stayed during appeal, and the 211 games would start when he loses. Which would mean part of the 2015 season. If the latter, then of course he appeals, since every day he’s appealing is a day his penalty goes down.

  • pat

    Good. I hope he appeals and this gets as nasty and dirty as possible. Steinbrenners deserve it for that contract they’re now trying to weasel out of.

  • Jacob the OG

    Fuck pertalta was on my fantasy team! Where else am I going to get that kind of production from SS?

    • aRX

      Same for my team, only substitute Everth Cabrera. All I can say is, thank god Zobrist is SS eligible and I can plug him in, the waiver wire is looking mighty barren.

      They couldn’t have dealt with this a month ago, so the appeal would be done by now, oh nooooo, just had to come down as he rejoins the roster, so that it’s a traveling circus rather than out of sight, out of mind as he rehabs. *sigh*

      Not that I’d ever wish injury on a player, but how much you wanna bet that he will be the one guy that avoids the obligatory setback and plays all the way through this saga?

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    “Its great that MLB is going to such great lengths to clean up the game, but make no mistake, it is coming at a great cost.”

    Nice dramatic ending that means absolutely nothing. What cost? To us, the Yankee fans? It comes at no great cost to the game of baseball. It comes as a great benefit.

    What exactly is the mistake we’d be making by not identifying that today was “bad” for baseball as you imply with that dramatic statement?

    Is A-Rod not being afforded due process? He’s being allowed to appeal.

    Has some fundamental Constitutional right been abridged? No.

    What COST exactly are you referring to with the needless dramatic statement? Because all I’m seeing is your personal sadness that A-Rod ‘s career is effectively over, not that MLB committed some particular crime or stained the game. The “cost” is to A-Rod apologists, that is all.

    • Eddard

      They think MLB looks bad because of the way it’s getting the information. I’ve said that nobody cares about how they get the info, it’s the players who are guilty and that’s all people care about.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Nobody is paying attention to things actually happening on the field.

      • vicki

        in the case of the post-mid-may yankees, that can’t be all bad.

        • Betty Lizard

          Silver lining!

      • Brian Strawman

        The biggest on field player story is Chris Davis, what do you suppose the real story is there?

    • LK

      The cost is that the biggest story regarding baseball for casual fans is, once again, steroids. It’s been steroids for the past decade.

      The original leaker from Biogenesis said there was evidence against NBA players, too. The NBA has done nothing. Therefore the biggest story in the NBA gets to be basketball (what a novel idea). MLB instituted testing; let the testing catch who it catches, and otherwise let’s try to make the lead story about what’s going on on the field for once.

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    On newsstands all over the city

    http://webmedia.newseum.org/ne.....NY_NYP.jpg

  • RetroRob

    Michael Weiner saying he doesn’t believe a decision will be made on A-Rod until after the 2014 season, perhaps November or December.

    Like it or not, he’s probably ours for the rest of the season.

    • aRX

      “The hearing must take place within 20 days and a ruling must be handed down no later than 25 days after that.”

      That’s the middle of September, max. Am I misinterpreting? Or is someone wrong about the time frame?

      • Betty Lizard

        Thank the gods I haven’t read the CBA, but wouldn’t you expect that both sides can agree to extend those deadlines?

      • RetroRob

        Just repeating what Weiner said.

      • Alex B. Badd

        They will delay filing the appeal until the buzzer goes off, so add three days.

  • Wolfgang’s Fault

    Selig should ban himself from baseball in the best interests of baseball, which in no way should be interpreted as me siding with A-Roid on this thing.

    I’m tired of all the bs w/regard to the owners and players’ association turning the game into a non-stop political football if I may mix my metaphors. Both the owners and players need to sit down and hammer out an agreement that defines what is and isn’t acceptable to both sides, & then they need to appoint a completely independent commissioner or even a three (wo)man executive board with the owners, players & fans getting to assign one person each to the board, with the authority & reach to make decisions that truly are in the best interests of the game & baseball’s now completely tattered reputation.

    Having A-Roid play ball games until his “hearing” is decided is just a travesty. No player initially suspended under a PED’s decision should be permitted on the field unless and until he’s served his suspension or been found not guilty following his appeal hearing before the arbitrator. During the hearing time frame, his salary should be held in escrow by the league & if the player wins, the league forwards that money to the now exonerated player. If, however, the arbitrator rules that the suspension verdict stands, the player is ruled inactive as of MLB’s initial ruling date until the expiration of the determined suspension w/all salary due to the player terminated during the suspension time period.

    Clearly, MLB is permitting A-Roid to play because they’re afraid of the possible lawsuit$ they fear they might lo$e if they prevent A-Roid from playing before the Arbitrator rules. For the Player’s Union, they’re backing their “guy” despite the hit it does to the game’s credibility & peripherally, all the other players in the game. For the fans, just another reason to be cynical among many other negative things over the years about the people playing and presiding over our game. Suspend him with pay (held in escrow) until the arbitrator’s decision gets handed down and don’t let him onto a playing field unless/until the arbitrator exonerates him, or this may very well be right up there w/one of the slimiest official decisions baseball has made in my lifetime.

    • flamingo

      I think I remember reading that suspensions, if appealed, are supposed to remain confidential until the appeals process is over – and if the appeal is successful, the suspension is never supposed to be revealed.

      Which is why he’s still playing.

      To my understanding (which may be incomplete), MLB released a statement because the information about A-Rod was already out there. It’s out there because they leaked it, which is… funny.

    • Caballo Sin Nombre

      Yes, MLB is afraid of a lawsuit for doing something that is totally in violation of a legal contract that they agreed to. What a bunch of cowards, afraid of a stupid piece of paper. I’m totally cynical about MLB sticking to their stupid agreements when I, as a paying fan, demand JUSTICE!!!

  • Babe Ruths Ghost

    I would have used PEDs . The fans wanted to see home runs damn it. It’s a business. What am I missing here. Just legalize it and control it just like pot and liquor and tobacco and other controlled substances are. Hgh would fix jeters calf. People want to see jeter on the field not in rehab. Thanks, the babe.

    • Wolfgang’s Fault

      I think wrestling is more your thing. The Ghost (& Coco[a] Butt) of Bobo Brazil awaits you.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Selig and his henchmen.

    Yeah.

    Fuck all of you.

  • http://frankmarcopolos.com ThisTimeFreddie

    It would be cool if Yankee Stadium were completely empty on Friday night, as an A-Roid protest. I mean, that would be NEWS-WORTHY! (Of course, it won’t happen, but still, a boy can dream…)

    • LK

      I find the Yankee offense this year to be more protest-worthy.

      • flamingo

        Ha, this.

      • Wolfgang’s Fault

        Fortunately, as long as you’re around, there’s still plenty of offense to be found here.

    • SDB

      Maybe the Yankee box score will be completely empty.

  • Art Vendelay

    So if all these guys were using PEDs, but did not fail a test, doesn’t that mean the testing is bogus? There are probably many more dirty players.

    • flamingo

      I feel like if they were really concerned about cleaning up the game, this is the type of information they’d be getting from Bosch.

  • Mick taylor

    Now that the evil arod hasgotten his punishment , now I can listen to espn commentators talkhow proven steroid cheat David Ortiz, who failed a drug test is deserving of the hall of. Fame. Or how i can watch theother red sox cheat, manny ramirez ,who twice tested positive for steroids play for the rangers. Of course Ortiz gets a free pass bythe media because he is a red sox even though he and manny werejuiced when they were the 2 most important hitters on the 2004 and2007 red sox championship teams.those steroids sure helped the sox beat the yanks and indians

    • Oy

      Andy Pettitte. Your narrative is ruined.

      • RetroRob

        How is the narrative ruined? Whenever Pettitte’s borderline HOF case is made, the PED situation always comes up.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I’m on vacation, but had to check this thread out. I’ll make it short and sweet.

    1. The suspension is more than fair.
    2. While he’s actually still playing, I hope he goes 5 for 5 every night with 10 RBIs.

    • RetroRob

      Michael Kay came off his vacation to host his show today.

      We demand Tilapia end his vacation pronto and join the insanity!

    • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

      Dude stop sneak into bathroom to get online you know if Miss Tilapia catches you the suspension will be longer then A-Rod and there are no appeals.

      LOL

      • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

        Enjoy your vacation I think this will still be here when you get back.

  • Oy

    A-Rod hitting clean up with Wells protecting him and fielding 1B. The circus has reached Chicago.

  • stuart a

    adams on roster and not lillibridge and jeter DL also…

  • stuart a

    the hearing will not take place until november….

    they got lawyers and discovery and a lot of info.

    aroid will be able to play the rest of the season, he is gone for sure all next season.

    this is the dopes last hurrah. he is a mega mega psycho narcissist on a level never seen in sports before…

  • stuart a

    i hope aroid helps them win, why wouldn’t I..

    the system is twisted…

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Tough blow to Cameron Diaz, Madonna, Kate Hudson, and assorted strippers.

  • Caballo Sin Nombre

    Justice, I say! JUSTICE! And I call upon the wrath of the Lord to smite thee down, oh sinners, oh adulters of baseball purity, oh fornicators of the faith of the fans; yeah smite thee down as thee stands in thy place of wickedness in the dugout of Satan!

    • vicki

      there is no justice. he was shipped crosstown for robin ventura.

  • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

    Tonight’s New York Yankees line-up

    B Gardner CF
    A Soriano DH
    R Cano 2B
    A Rodriguez 3B
    V Wells 1B
    C Granderson LF
    I Suzuki RF
    E Nunez SS
    C Stewart C

    • vicki

      i figure sori and vern rock/paper/scissor’d to see who’d get the mitt.

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Alex arriving in his chariot

    http://cache3.asset-cache.net/.....slSA%3d%3d

    • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

      smh just smh

    • Wheels

      Too lazy to walk?

    • vicki

      i love it.

      you just keep doing you, alex.

  • dasani

    C’mon guys. THESE ARE THE YANKEES, MLB’s own version of Ringling bros. and Barnum Bailey,I’m sure George is up there loving every bit of this , with Billy laughing at his side. As a long time Yankee fan you just take this as another grain of salt. I love it.

    • King George

      If you like and enjoy this, then that’s really sad. The drama sucks, I just want the team to do well. There’s no place for these shenangigans.

  • David Brown

    I am of the opinion that Rodriguez will get 50 Games or less ( I hope and pray that I am wrong). The only alternatives that I have is to accept him and root for him ( because his success means Yankee success), or root against him ( knowing it hurts the team), or not watch the Yankees until he is gone from the team. I am choosing the will not watch option, ( making an exception for the Mariano Rivera retirement ceremony). I honestly wish the Yankees would have had the guts to release him, even if it meant paying him off in full, as opposed to the Don Vito ” it’s not personal it’s just business” attitude. Even the biggest Yankee hater would have respected them over that. I rooted for this team through the Stump Merrill days of 100 losses, and I would do it again if necessary ( just like I will root for Penn State despite no Bowls until 2016, provided the Cancer of the team is History). Stuff like this is why Baseball has been replaced by Hockey in my favorites list. 1: NFL 2: NHL. 3: CFB. 3a: MLB . It’s that simple

    • Bo Knows

      Do you honestly think the NFL is clean? They might honestly be the dirtiest sport, although no one talks about it. Players have to fail two tests before they are suspended, and they still haven’t even settled for how to test for HGH despite viable tests existing for a while

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Right now — Live press conference on ESPN

  • Wheels

    Gonna be a fun game thread tonight.

  • DavidAdamsIsGod

    Look at this clown. Those pitiful dramatic pauses

  • Bronx Bombers23

    He’s a habitual liar. He’s a cheater. He’s a narcissist. He’s an ass.

    I have been, and will continue to be a Yankees fan until they chuck me in the ground, but I will not support this arrogant, selfish bastard under any circumstances. He can sit up there at this PC, and lie all he wants. He’s a worthless piece of crap in my book.

    I hope the White Sox hit him like a piñata every time he comes to the plate tonight.

    • Brian Strawman

      I respect your opinion but I hope you realize how widespread PED use is in MLB. None of these players failed the drug test. This shows players can use, beat the test and feel confident they will not fail.

    • Brian Strawman

      Is Cano clean? I’d want to be certain before signing his next contract

      • Bronx Bombers23

        I do realize that, and I sincerely hope that each and every one of them are caught and punished to the fullest extent of the current rules under the CBA. I would like to see the penalties stiffened. First offense, you’re gone for a year. Second offense, you’re gone for good.

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      Agree 100%

      He’s a total disgrace

    • Captain

      I bet you typed this out wearing a Pettitte jersey

  • Rick in Philly

    A-Rod’s wearing a Yankees jersey tonight? I’m cheering for him. Just like I’ve cheered for every guy that wears a Yankee jersey. I’m going to sit back tonight, watch the game with the sound off, and hope he hits 3 homers and the Yankees win.

  • RonIthaca

    I will forever be a Yankee fan. That being said, I hope the arbitration process is sped up and Arod gets a lengthy suspension. Then, hopefully, he goes away. I think he will be a constant distraction for this team. There will be questions every night about this. Arod and the team have to know that. The quicker this situation is resolved, they quicker we can go back to focusing on winning games.

  • Captain Turbo

    All you guys that keep saying “I’m a Yankee fan” and that you want A-Rod to go away, you aren’t Yankee fans.