Game 108: Granderson Returns, Part II

Missed you, Curtis. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

Missed you, Curtis. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

For the second time this season, Curtis Granderson is returning to the Yankees following a lengthy DL stint. Hopefully he lasts more than eight games this time. The Yankees definitely need his power in the lineup. Given the way this nightmare injury-plagued season has gone, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was attacked by a swarm of wasps in left field and had to miss six weeks while the swelling went down. Here’s the lineup that will face hard-throwing right-hander Andrew Cashner:

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. SS Derek Jeter
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. 1B Lyle Overbay
  5. LF Curtis Granderson
  6. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  7. 3B Eduardo Nunez yep, third base
  8. C Chris Stewart
  9. LHP CC Sabathia

That actually resembles a legitimate, Major League lineup. It’s been too long. It really has.

The weather is great in San Diego, I’m sure of it. The weather is never not great in San Diego. First pitch is scheduled for a little after 10pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. BigBlueAL says:

    All excited to finally see a decent ML lineup then I see Overbay is batting cleanup and Soriano is on the bench.

  2. Eddard says:

    If CC can’t turn it around against an NL lineup and the White Sox then he’s not going to turn it around this season.

    And I love Nuney getting a shot at 3rd. Better than Nix.

  3. Steve says:

    Lyle Overbay is hitting cleanup. Let’s pump the breaks on the legitimate major league lineup thing

  4. Wheels says:

    Lets go Yanks.

  5. dkidd says:

    time to make up some ground

    now or never!

  6. dkidd says:

    cc should be batting 7th

  7. Cy Pettitte says:

    why are you sliding? stop it.

  8. Wheels says:

    Why slide there Gardner?

  9. forensic says:

    They should give Gardner the Willie Mays Hayes treatment every time he slides into first.

  10. forensic says:

    Pretty terrible slide by Jeter there. Waiting for him to leave the game with a groin injury now.

  11. The Real Greg says:

    Thinking about it, it actually makes sense to put Overbay in front of Granderson because if Grandy was in front, he would be pitched around.

  12. forensic says:

    Nice job, Overbay. Don’t worry about swinging a fastball right there or anything.

  13. Dale Mohorcic says:

    Anyone else not getting announcers? I’m getting game sound but no booth.

  14. Dalek Jeter says:

    …any reason Soriano isn’t in there? I mean are his platoons that terrible that Ichiro should be starting and Overbay should remain in the heart of the order instead of Soriano hitting 4th or 5th?

    • The Real Greg says:

      Three words: Petco Park Outfield

      • forensic says:

        It has nothing to do with the outfield. He’s going to sit one of the OFer’s in each of these games. This one happens to be Soriano.

        It’ll be made even more obvious tomorrow and Sunday when he’s in the OF with Nova and Hughes on the mound.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        Soriano’s UZRs:

        2007: 33.2
        2008: 16.5

        Average for that time: 10

        • The Real Greg says:

          I’ll take the eye test, thank you very much,

          • Dalek Jeter says:

            People’s eyes say that Dustin Pedroia is a better player than Cano because he looks like he’s playing harder. Give me numbers over subjective “eye tests” every day of the week.

          • Dalek Jeter says:

            On top of that, Soriano’s been here, what? A week? I didn’t realize that you either A. have watched every Cubs game of the last few years to develop a strong opinion of Soriano’s fielding or B. have the ability to make judgements on player’s ability within a week. I really think it’s C. He has the reputation as a poor defensive outfielder, therefore he must be.

  15. 28 this year says:

    More hitters, same result

  16. forensic says:

    Grandy’s in midseason form…

    • The Real Greg says:

      Wow. You don’t waste anytime do you?

      Would you rather he not be here?

      • forensic says:

        You don’t waste anytime do you?

        Pot, meet kettle.

        And no, I wouldn’t rather he not be there, but that doesn’t mean I have to enjoy his terrible ability to make contact with any semblance of consistency.

        • Revan says:

          They should have traded him and kept Swish. With Gardner here both of them are essentially corner outfielder’s but one of them has doesn’t have an OBP that sucks every year.

  17. Wheels says:

    Ok CC, get to work.

  18. Capo says:

    CC’s thrown three pitches and hasn’t given up a run yet. Improvement!

  19. Cuso says:

    Hey CC! Let them hit it.

  20. The Real Greg says:

    This ump has a tight strike zone for both pitchers.

  21. Cuso says:

    Enjoy your last 3 games, Evereth.

  22. ThatstheMelkyMesaWaysa says:

    Doug Mientkiewicz is or is not better than Lyle Overbay

  23. Wheels says:

    Great start.

  24. Eddard says:

    Start getting the bullpen up. This is going to be a long night. CC hasn’t improved a damn thing.

  25. SDB says:

    Yeesh. Not even half an hour in and I’m already cringing.

  26. Cuso says:

    The Ump looked like he anticipated calling him safe there

  27. nsalem says:

    oh stop it Eddard

  28. Steve D Fl says:

    really CC ? wtf?

  29. 28 this year says:

    Same cc

  30. Cy Pettitte says:

    so ridiculous. Every CC start is cringe worthy.

  31. C.C. picking right where he left off.

  32. Cuso says:

    I would like to commend CC for keeping the weight off this season.

  33. Capo says:

    Wow, he is getting squeezed here. Ump is really not calling any pitches on his right side of the plate. C.C. of course isn’t giving him a reason for leeway either.

  34. BigBlueAL says:

    This is embarrassing.

  35. Dalek Jeter says:

    Hooray a tight strike zone on top of a…struggling pitcher.

  36. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    That’s a strike.

  37. WhittakerWalt says:


  38. forensic says:

    Ugh, CC…

  39. Revan says:

    Looks like next year we’ll be down two aces.

  40. Eddard says:

    And CC walks in a run. He hasn’t learned a damn thing.

  41. The Real Greg says:

    Again, the contract. Yay or Nay at the time?

  42. Wheels says:

    Nice play Robbie.

  43. Eddard says:

    I think we can just count one in the books. CC has already allowed 2 runs and he’s only gotten 2 outs in the ballgame. Girardi will let CC give up 8-9 runs before he makes a move.

  44. SDB says:

    Over in chowdahland… dear god, Heath Bell is trying to protect a one run lead. I might vomit if the Sox walk off again.

    • Pat D says:

      Conquistador Instant Coffee brings a new meaning to the word “vomit.”

      • SDB says:

        I don’t need another new meaning, as it is I live about 30 minutes from the Mass border over in CT.

        Ugh. Please, DBacks, don’t blow this. Please.

        • Pat D says:

          I’m guessing you’re not a Monty Python fan.

          And anyway they held on.

          • SDB says:

            I am, and I’m ashamed I missed that reference. Though I haven’t seen the Flying Circus in a few years. And I’ve been watching more Fry and Laurie lately.

            Well done, DBacks.

            I’ll take 20 minutes off from the Yankees game and go watch Eric Idle in penance.

  45. The Real Greg says:

    I mean I think the Yankees did the right thing by resigning CC. Then again, if they were able TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN ACES we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

  46. Eddard says:

    If CC really wants to help the ballclub he’ll bark some more at the home plate ump and get himself tossed from the game. That’s about the only way he can help right now.

  47. Carlos Danger says:

    I think it’s time for a CC DL stint, WTF? He’s been awful as of late, and that’s putting it mildly.

  48. Wayne says:

    CC may Have lost weight too fast. so his body is not as strong.

    • The Real Greg says:

      That’s honestly what I think. I think his losing weight has thrown his mechanics completely out of whack.

  49. Rolling Doughnut says:

    How did CC give up the runs.

  50. Dalek Jeter says:

    Soriano obviously shouldn’t be the odd man out. Ichiro is not a terrible player…but Soriano is clearly the better hitter. (as Ichiro gets one of his little dinky shit singles)

  51. dkidd says:

    we’re winning this game

    who’s with me?

  52. Fucking Red Sox are gonna do it again, aren’t they?

  53. Cy Pettitte says:

    give him a proper helmet already. every.single.time is goes flying off.

  54. Wheels says:


  55. Eddard says:

    I’ve been saying for weeks to try Nuney at 3rd. They finally do and good thing happen.

  56. The Real Greg says:

    CC can help his own cause here

  57. Cy Pettitte says:

    yay NL, pitchers helping their own cause

  58. The Real Greg says:

    He gets the job done.

  59. CC Sabathia RBI. Well now.

  60. dkidd says:

    sox lose

    last night was their high water mark

  61. Eddard says:

    It seems like everybody except Lyle Overbay has gotten the memo, he only has 1 pitch – the 97-98 mph fastball.

  62. Cuso says:

    Hey. Good inning. What more do you want?

  63. Carlos Danger says:

    Food for thought: CC has better offensive number than Stewart for his career. If this whole pitching thing doesn’t work out maybe the Yanks could have him DH or just campaign to join the NL, one less position to fill. #189alive

  64. Eddard says:

    Is Nuney playing SS?

  65. Dalek Jeter says:

    Everett Cabrera is loco.

  66. The Real Greg says:

    Cabrera bails out the Yankees

  67. WhittakerWalt says:

    What a dumb steal attempt. Throwing out runners is the ONLY thing Chris Stewart is actually good at.

  68. Tom says:

    ARod post game:

    “There’s more than one party that benefits from me never stepping on the field again”‘
    “I think we all agree we want to get rid of PED’s”

    He really just needs to stop talking at this point.

  69. dkidd says:

    is jeter going to have that limp for the rest of his life?

    hurts to watch him run

  70. Jorge Brosada says:

    Just tuned in and I see that CC’s already given up multiple runs. Shocker…

  71. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Nice job Stewie

  72. Dalek Jeter says:

    We give stewart a lot of shit, but dude totally just got concussed for an out. Props.

  73. Winter says:


  74. Cy Pettitte says:

    Gardy! nice.

  75. Carlos Danger says:

    Gardner bailing out the DH pretending to be a pitcher!

  76. vicki says:

    disrespect the gritner cannon at your peril.

  77. nsalem says:

    Randy Jones

  78. Holy hell, there is no fucking way Nunez was out.

  79. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Horrible umps ftw

  80. Jerry Meals not present, but yep, he’s not out.

    There are going to be multiple ejections before the end of this series the amount of crap being done.

  81. Cy Pettitte says:

    are you kidding me? that wasn’t even close

  82. The Real Greg says:

    That was un umpire prejudging the call. That wasn’t close.

  83. Carlos Danger says:

    Not even close. Wow, MLB should start by cleaning up terrible calls. The safe call wasn’t as “sexy” huh? Couldn’t rear back and punch him out? Puke.

  84. The Real Greg says:

    Instant replay next year! Instant replay next year!

  85. Kramerica Industries says:

    Not even PETCO can save C.C. from giving up HRs anymore.

  86. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:



  87. Cy Pettitte says:

    wow. CC please retire.

  88. WhittakerWalt says:

    Another homerun to a shitty hitter. CC is unbelievable.

  89. The Real Greg says:

    It’s like Ivan Nova from last year, except its for homers

  90. Cy Pettitte says:

    this fat shit can’t even cover 1B when the pitcher is running.

  91. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Nice hustle CC
    At least you’re making up for it with your pitching.

  92. YankeeFan says:

    What’s the excuse for CC tonight? Also, again not covering first base.

  93. Kramerica Industries says:

    Whatever (perhaps valid) reasons exist, C.C. is such an awful fielder of his position.

  94. BigBlueAL says:

    Maybe the Yankees should ask Selig to give CC a lifetime ban too.

  95. CashmanNinja says:

    That was a downright LAZY play by CC. I’ve been supporting him, but he was day dreaming and not caring at all. THAT was a bad play. It’s not like the guy running was fast! If it was Jose Reyes I could understand him not even giving an effort, but come on!

  96. WhittakerWalt says:

    PFP time.

  97. CashmanNinja says:

    Thanks CC…that was ALL on you.

  98. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Bullpen please

  99. Cy Pettitte says:

    fuck you so much CC.

  100. Kramerica Industries says:

    C.C. is giving up runs now because of his own fucking defensive incompetence. For love of g-d.

  101. Revan says:

    Why are we not appealing.

  102. CashmanNinja says:

    And why aren’t they at least challenging that play? Just throw over for the hell of it!

    This team is playing LAZY.

  103. Carlos Danger says:

    Wow. CC you suck. Can’t cover first, can’t get out AAAA hitters can’t keep the ball in the park. DL please, I’ll take Phelps or Pineda at this point, his ERA has to be over 6 over the past month and a half now. He’s been very bad for a while now.

  104. Kramerica Industries says:

    Ho hum. C.C. sporting a nifty 2.50 WHIP and 9.00 ERA so far tonight. Par for the fucking course.

  105. Cy Pettitte says:

    4.77 ERA. 4.77 ERA and you’re making $23mil a year. 4.77 ERA. please die.

  106. CashmanNinja says:

    CC used up all his energy on that last play. He’s probably going to be too tired to go another inning now. He’s probably mad Overbay didn’t run in, field it, and chase the runner down before he ran to 1st.

  107. Cuso says:

    Stewart is going yard here.

  108. WhittakerWalt says:

    Only three more runs and it will be your usual CC start.

  109. Holy shit this team sucks says:


  110. Cy Pettitte says:

    can’t even bunt correctly. fuck off.

  111. Dalek Jeter says:

    These fucking umpires

  112. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Horrible umpires
    Not even arguing though?

  113. Revan says:

    Does Girardi just not care anymore?

  114. Kramerica Industries says:

    The umps are really just shoving sticks up the Yankees asses tonight, aren’t they?

  115. W.B. Mason Williams says:

    Holy shit are they kicking us when we’re down…

  116. YankeeFan says:

    Can’t even get a bunt down.

  117. A.D. says:

    so now you don’t need to catch the ball to get outs?

  118. teddy says:

    these umps are a joke

  119. Cuso says:

    Not that it matters, but we’re getting jobbed by this Ump crew.

  120. Capo says:

    Are the umps on SD payroll tonight? seriously, this is just ridiculous call after ridiculous call.

  121. Holy shit this team sucks says:

    Is anyone on that team awake?

  122. 28 this year says:

    Must be nice to have unlimited job security without actually having to do the job right.

  123. stuart a says:

    officiating is just horrible…

    nunez out at 1st is laughable.

    sabathia is simply horrible…

  124. Holy shit this team sucks says:

    Thank The Lord this team didn’t sell at the deadline. They should be right in the thick of the race come September. And besides, this farm system is crawling with talent. Zero need to restock it.

  125. Carlos Danger says:

    Geriatric Jeter, my deceased grandfather runs faster than that bum.

  126. Marc406 says:

    terrible umping… not unlimited job security though

  127. Tom says:

    So CC has faced 22 batters so far – 11 have reached base.

    He’s actually kind of fortunate that the Padres have made a couple of outs on the bases and it’s only 4 runs at this point

  128. stuart a says:

    1st inning strike 3 on th eguy who walked to drive in a run.

    nunez was clearly safe and the guy at second dropped the ball. yanks got screwed 3 outs already tonight that lead to at least 2 runs against…

    sabathia did not have to cover first when he could pitch but now it is disgraceful that he does not cover first…

  129. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    It’s not good when a guy who hasn’t played since April is 4th on the team in position player WAR.

  130. Carlos Danger says:

    This cavernous ball-park is like a whales vagina.

  131. Holy shit this team sucks says:

    This home plate ump is on drugs

  132. nsalem says:

    Who holds the record for most blown saves lifetime and in a season? (same guy)

  133. Kramerica Industries says:

    So much for that. Awful luck.

  134. Marc406 says:

    Hoffman played Shortstop for the Billings Mustangs in rookie ball

  135. Wheels says:

    I remember Steinbrenner being really pissed off about the condition of the field at Qualcomm Stadium during the ’98 Series. The Chargers had torn up the field pretty good.

  136. Carlos Danger says:

    Why am I depriving myself of sleep to torture myself with a CC Sa-shitsthebedagain-bathia. Good night, maybe.

  137. Cy Pettitte says:

    throw a strike jesus christ

  138. Revan says:

    Go to the fucking bullpen. This isnt 2010 CC ffs.

  139. Holy shit this team sucks says:

    CC has no business staying in this game right now

  140. Carlos Danger says:

    Serious question : Would CC make it through waivers right now?

  141. Cy Pettitte says:

    get this stupid fucking clown off the mound.

  142. Revan says:

    Girardi is an awful, awful manager.

  143. Wheels says:

    Bad job CC.

  144. Carlos Danger says:

    Fuck this, I’m gonna catch up on Wilfred.

  145. Marc406 says:

    wilfred is better than this right now

  146. WhittakerWalt says:

    11 hits. Awesome. But don’t go questioning CC’s ace-ness, or you’ll get called a troll.

  147. mt says:

    It is debatable whether returning players like Grandy and Jeter and Arod (???) will help this anemic line-up score more runs this year. I can easily say either yes (since they are largely replacing at or below replacement leevel fill-ins) or no (being out so long may mean these guys do not produce so much in the remaining season that is left). It is debatable.

    What is not debatable is that Yanks are going absolutely nowhere (except possibly to last place in AL East) if CC continues to give up 5-7 runs a game.

    • Holy shit this team sucks says:

      Nothing you said is debatable. Jeter and Granderson aren’t near enough to help this offense. It’s difficult to imagine a more poorly constructed $200+ million team.

  148. BigBlueAL says:

    At least CC got his 100+ pitches in tonight.

  149. Holy shit this team sucks says:

    Jealous of the Padres’ offense right now

  150. Cy Pettitte says:

    I hope they just put him on the DL already. Phelps should be ready soon.

  151. Tom says:

    On the bright side, Claiborne just saved CC from his 4th straight outing of giving up at least 7 runs.

  152. dkidd says:

    i still say we’re winning this game

  153. nsalem says:

    Most hits given up in a game: Eddie Rommel July 10, 1932 29 hits. However he got the win.

  154. BigBlueAL says:

    Yankees havent had a runner reach 2nd base since the 2nd inning.

  155. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Dellin please.

  156. Wheels says:

    Oh Joba.

  157. Kramerica Industries says:

    Jobber is a fucking disgrace.

  158. WhittakerWalt says:

    Joba comes in to put the game out of reach, as per usual.

  159. Charles says:

    Damn what a shocker

  160. Holy shit this team sucks says:

    Remember when Joba was “next” on the cover of ESPN Magazine?

  161. BigBlueAL says:

    Joba, from Big 3 to mopup man.

  162. CashmanSuxShit says:

    CC Sabathia’s velocity has dropped every year since he first signed here.

    Additionally, he was missing fewer bats and his linedrive rate was soaring the year BEFORE he opted out.

    The signs were there. Brian Cashman ignored them and have him 125 million dollars.

    Now the Yankees owe a guy who looks like he’s done another $74 million!

    One more MASSIVE mistake by Cashman on a mega-$$$ deal, and he’ll never take any heat for it.

    Instead, places like this are writing stories about how he should be PROMOTED!


    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Who said he should be promoted?
      Likely will be promoted is different than should be promoted.

    • Winter says:

      Yeah, it sucks how we signed Sabathia. Man, I wish he hadn’t played for us 2009-2012. You know, I didn’t really want the Yankees to win the World Series in ’09 anyway.

      • Tom says:

        He was extended in Nov 2011.

        I;m pretty sure if they didn’t do that extension the ’09 WS stillwould have counted.

        Original contract = good
        Extension under threat of opt out = bad

        (kind of like ARod)

        • Winter says:

          His extension was for one year, with a vesting option for 2017. And, in case you don’t remember, Sabathia said on more than one occasion that he didn’t plan on opting out. So we would have had him through 2015 anyway.

          • Tom says:

            The vesting option is basically “shoulder doesn’t blow out” and if it does they have to spend 5mil to buy him out.

            Buty that is irrelevant – why tack on ANY years? It was dumb, if he walked away you got his best years at a discount.

            There was no reason to extend him and just tack two years on.

        • CashmanSuxShit says:

          Second what Tom says… beat me to the obvious punch.

          Sabathia was going to opt out. If he wasn’t, adding an addtional $32 million onto what the Yankees already owed him was even dumber still.

          There is no question Sabathia’s second deal was a HUGE mistake. The best thing that can be said of it is that it’s hindsight.

          I still say it’s not because the signs were there… But even if it IS hindsight, general managers are fired based on hindsight (their moves blowing up in the face of the organization) ALL THE TIME. Especially when they are franchise-altering, huge-money moves that are turning into disasters.

          In fact, that’s how MOST GM’s get fired. Nobody ever went to a GM sand said, “boy, all those moves you made several years ago worked out GREAT! Our organization is set for years to come because of your genius… BUT, I really didn’t like the moves at the time you made them, so… Ya… You’re fired!”

      • Winter says:

        Also, it’s funny that you say he was missing fewer bats, because all his Contact% and Z-Contact% are at or below his career averages.

      • Gonzalo Hiram says:

        Hahaha Winter you know nothing, they extended him after the 2011 season, don’t say stupid things, we already have won the world series so it was time to let him go

        • Winter says:

          “we already have won the world series so it was time to let him go”

          Logic of the year right there.

          • CashmanSuxShit says:

            When the guy’s arm has been piling on innings at a 250-per-year clip, his velocity is dropping every single year and his line drive rate is soaring…. Ya… It’s VERY logical to suggest EXTENDING him might not be a good idea!

            • Tom says:

              His velocity didn’t really dip until 2012 (after the extension).

              However the # of innings and his age by the end of the contract should have at least raised some serious concerns.

          • Tom says:

            Says the guy who was arguing:

            “yeah I didn’t to win the ’09 WS”…. by not extending CC in 2011?

          • Gonzalo Hiram says:

            Haha you are so dumb, english is not my first language, but if you continue reading I said “it was time to let him go” So or you are an idiot or you just were looking for an excuse instead of paying attention to the difference between extending a player and the first time we got him

    • Cuso says:

      Did you think his velocity would increase every year he would be here?

      • CashmanSuxShit says:


        Do you think EXTENDING a guy when his velocity is dropping and his linedrive rate is soaring is a GOOD idea?

  163. Slu says:

    There’s a reason Jobs gets these innings.

  164. Holy shit this team sucks says:

    Jeter making Nunez look like a gold glover

  165. stuart a says:

    betances does deserve a chance but the yanks have this credo play vets over younger guys until it is absolutely hopeless.

    wells adios and mesa over him. joba while not young sucks but according to Kay he has good stuff. great he has good stuff but cannot get anyone else..

    kay and the crew why not say it like it is, cc is not been bad he has been historically bad. look it up.. jeter coming up big today. so with the umps SUCKING, sabathia sucking, and the offense the usual they have no chance…

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      “historically bad?”
      Get a grip.

    • CashmanSuxShit says:

      Michael Kay is an F’ing joke!

      His “Joba has good stuff” crap was old several years ago… The only thing Kay knows about “stuff” is what he sees on the TV radar gun, If Joba hits 96 or 97, Kay inevitably says, “he has good stuff” and is baffled as to why he gets crushed so regularly.

      The fact is, Joba does NOT have “good stuff.” He throws hard, but straight. Moreover, it could not be clearer, at least to anyone who knows what they’re watching, that hitters pick up the ball very early on him and have no problems at all recognizing the pitches.

  166. Wheels says:

    Look, I don’t think Jeter is fit to play yet. Straight up

    • stuart a says:

      why just because he runs like me!!!!

      I agree the yare that desperate that jeter on 1 leg is better then the lot of SS they have..

  167. Carlos Danger says:

    Umps coulda given that one back.

  168. Holy shit this team sucks says:

    They can’t field, hit, or pitch. But hey, a move here a move there at the waiver wire and they could get close to competing with the San Diego Padres.

  169. stuart a says:

    joba will make a mill next year. 5 years ago you think this guy would be a $10 mill a year guy…

    he will be living in a box in about 15 years…

  170. Carlos Danger says:

    I know people say it in jest with DFA’ing a guy but Joba really needs to get the ax in favor of a AAA arm.

  171. Kevin says:

    So after another upsetting start from CC, what is going on with Pineda? Haven’t the yankees gained the extra year of control of him already? Why not call him up…

    • BigBlueAL says:

      Probably because in his last 3 starts he has thrown a total of 8 innings.

      • Kevin says:

        Ok. He has only pitched that much because the team is managing his workload at this point, right? Why not stretch him out as a middle reliever, DFA Joba (out of options?) and wait for Phelps to come back and then give Pineda a spot start and have a six man rotation for a while. It’s not like they are entirely worried about taking CC out of his 5 day tempo like last year.

        • Winter says:

          Yeah, young phenom starter, just stick him in the bullpen if there’s no room for him in the rotation! What could go wrong?

  172. Frank says:

    CC is just mediocre now. Get used to it. It’s going to be a loooong 3 more years with him before the Yanks can buy him out.

    • Winter says:

      It’s one bad year. He’s 33. It’s not like he’s in his late 30s. Every pitcher goes through an adjustment period when they lose their velocity. A lot of the good one’s make it through and pitch well on the other end. Just look at mike Mussina.

      • FIPster Doofus says:

        At the same time, a lot of great pitchers suddenly drop off and don’t recover. Lester, Lincecum and Haren jump to mind immediately as recent examples.

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  174. WhittakerWalt says:

    Lucky for us the Padres run the bases like Yasiel Puig, or we’d be down 13-2.

  175. Wheels says:

    Shitty loss.

  176. dkidd says:

    terrible loss

    napoli walk-off felt like the end of something, but this is new low point

  177. Gonzalo Hiram says:

    So may wrong things with this team right now.

    Cashman says is the FO fault but also why did he bring Youkilis and Hafner. So it was the FO bringing Ichiro and Cashman bringin Youkilis and Hafner letting Ibanez, Chavez and Martin go.

    With CC we had to do exactly what we didn’t do with ARod and we overpayed again. The people running the team are not learning from their mistakes, I hope this time they offer Cano 7years/130M and that’s overpayig a little bit but we should offer something like that and if we wants more, good bye.

    So sad watching the team right now but I really think we are not in a big hole is just taking the smart decisions in 2014 and we could have an amazing team again in 2015.

    Still just expecting a miracle, for example the Giants have won 2 world series lately with mediocre batting (maybe worst than our team right now), good pitching but principaly very good timing so we could be lucky this year or next and get a miracle haha.

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