Game 112: Just Win

(Jonathan Daniel/Getty)

(Jonathan Daniel/Getty)

Well, the Yankees need a win and they have the right guy on the mound for that tonight. So do the White Sox, unfortunately. Hiroki Kuroda‘s latest bad luck pitching matchup pits him against Chris Sale, who is no worse than the third best left-handed starter in baseball. You can made a pretty strong case he’s the second best behind Clayton Kershaw (Kuroda’s last opponent) and ahead of David Price. Either way, he’s awesome.

Even with Alfonso Soriano and Alex Rodriguez in the lineup, the Yankees still lack some punch against left-handed pitchers. Unless Sale has a really off night, they’ll have to employ the ol’ Pedro Martinez strategy and wait him out before hopefully jumping on the bullpen. Kuroda is capable of matching Sale zero for zero, but that’s an awful lot pressure to put on the starter. Scoring runs early for a change — the Yankees have scored a total of four runs before the sixth inning in the first six games of this road trip — would be a wonderful way to do that. Here’s the lineup that will face Mr. Sale:

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. LF Alfonso Soriano
  3. DH Alex Rodriguez
  4. 2B Robinson Cano
  5. RF Vernon Wells
  6. 3B Jayson Nix
  7. SS Eduardo Nunez
  8. 1B David Adams
  9. C Austin Romine

And on the mound is Kuroda, who did not win AL Pitcher of the Month honors despite allowing a grand total of two runs in five July starts. Between that and the All-Star Game snub, the poor guy doesn’t get a lick of national respect.

It’s cool and cloudy in Chicago, but the rain is supposed to hold off until later tonight. It shouldn’t be a problem unless they go into extra innings or something. First pitch is scheduled for a little after 8pm ET and can be seen on YES My9. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Kramerica Industries says:

    Well, this should be fun.


  2. forensic says:

    Who did win pitcher of the month and what were their basic numbers? I’m on my phone and it’s annoying to find right now.

  3. dkidd says:

    how many k’s for alex tonight? i’ll go with 2

  4. Wheels says:

    This game shouldn’t take more than two and a half hours to complete.

  5. dkidd says:

    watching tigers-indians, they have a great trivia question:

    name the last player to reach 3,000 hits with less than 500 strikeouts

  6. Dale Mohorcic says:

    Did we sign Jason Bay yet?

  7. OldYanksFan says:

    Well done Pat D!

  8. trr says:

    YANKS LEAD THE MAJORS….in games scoring 1 run or less, 23 in all.
    Even the Astros are better.
    Please Chris Sale, don’t hurt us…

  9. Dale Mohorcic says:

    Is the game delayed? Or just not on YES?

  10. WhittakerWalt says:

    I just hope we score more than zero runs for Hiroki.

  11. fat jeter says:

    oh great, not in the NTY market and I get Hawk fucking Harrelson

  12. trr says:

    Starting it off?

  13. fat jeter says:

    lets go, small ball this shit, get 1 run and let kuroda do his thing

  14. RetroRob says:

    Tall, thin, lefty, no “meat on the bones,” throws hard. How long can he last? Sounds like they just described Randy Johnson.

  15. WhittakerWalt says:


  16. RetroRob says:

    The magic of A-Rod.

  17. trr says:

    Wow what a break!

  18. dkidd says:

    that right there is the prototypical 2013 yankee run

  19. Wheels says:


  20. Dan in Athens says:

    Yeah other teams sucking!!!

  21. flamingo says:

    Alright, Gameday isn’t being clear enough. What just happened? And is the zone really as tight as they’re making it look?

    • RetroRob says:

      Not getting the impression the zone is that tight. Sale’s pitches have been a bit wild at times in the early going.

    • trr says:

      No,I don’t think so.

      Soriano scored from 2nd on a wild pitch, Sox catcher couldn’t locate the ball

    • Helvetios says:

      Chicago catcher got crossed up on a pitch thinking Sale was going to throw a slider when he actually threw a fastball. The pitch went between his legs and hit the umpire in the foot, and got so far away that Soriano was able to score all the way from second.

  22. RetroRob says:

    Fantastic eye, A-Rod. That last pitch was right on the black.

  23. Eddard says:

    There’s Hiroki’s run! Now they can win 1-0 without getting a hit! Sale looks wild tonight.

  24. Dan in Athens says:

    Soriano went to third on a when Sale through a pitch that cross up the catcher, the ball then shot off to the 3rd base side, catcher couldn’t find it and Soriano kept running.

  25. EndlessJose says:

    I don’t care if there’s a lefty pitching, you put the best lineup available. Granderson and Soriano should be there everyday. Wells has been horrible and is a easy out.

  26. dkidd says:

    if you’re keeping score at home…

    …your loneliness saddens me

  27. fat jeter says:

    past a diving nunez?

  28. RetroRob says:

    He gone.

    Two words not just said by Hawk.

  29. trr says:

    Tough play, Nunez couldn’t get it done

  30. Wheels says:

    Good throw Romine.

  31. dkidd says:

    that was a GREAT throw

  32. trr says:

    Austin powers the throw to second!

  33. fat jeter says:

    A-Rom! too bad stewart isn’t out there….

  34. trr says:


  35. Tom says:

    Nix with a couple of nice plays (especially the 2nd one)

  36. RetroRob says:

    I remember when the Yankees picked up Nix. Thought he’d be on the team for two weeks. Now approaching two seasons.

  37. trr says:

    Glad we got that gift-wrapped run in the first

  38. trr says:

    Sale’s got great stuff, I guess he’s lost on that lousy team

  39. dkidd says:

    dave kingman!

    • forensic says:

      Yeah, that one was pretty obvious. I like how Flaherty had no clue, and even thought it wasn’t Strawberry because he didn’t hit that low despite that he’s not even really close to 400 homers.

      • RetroRob says:

        I would have guessed that Strawberry was somewhere in the 380s, but he finished in the 330s. He was basically done as a full-time player before he turned 30.

  40. RetroRob says:

    Shades of Matsui dive in left, or Gardner. Nothing broken this time.

  41. Captain Turbo says:

    Ouch, that looked like a wrist-breaker. Good catch, Sori.

  42. forensic says:

    Heh, and after those 4 passed balls, the Sox pulled that starter after just the first inning and already have relievers going. Yikes.

  43. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Kuroda has been so good this year that you almost expect that 1 run to hold up.

  44. Leg-End says:

    Run Gardy, Run!

  45. WhittakerWalt says:

    Memo to John and Suzyn: ARod is NOT getting booed just because he’s a Yankee.

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

      I don’t even know what point they’re trying to make. Yes, Yankees get booed wherever they go. Yes, A-rod has always been booed. Therefore… he’s not also being booed for doing steroids?

      And how are the sports writers who said he was being booed for doing steroids holier than thou? I really can’t stand Sterling, but I’m stuck listening to him on the train home.

  46. Wheels says:

    Come on Robbie, do something here.

  47. Leg-End says:

    Blown call, he was safe.

  48. RetroRob says:


  49. Wheels says:

    fucking safe!

  50. forensic says:

    Terrible call by an ump? Par for the course.

    But at least they have (almost) all those evil villians making a mockery of the sport out of the game…

  51. Tom says:


    But fucking slide! The idiot dives into first base on groundballs on the IF, but then goes in standing up at home (which screens the umpire from seeing a tag)

  52. Cuso says:

    That was Vernon’s fault! Supposed to tell Gardner to slide there!

  53. flamingo says:

    Hey, Bud. It’s in the best interests of the game to give the umps access to the same information and technology that fans have from their couches. Get on that. Thanks.

  54. The Troll Monger says:

    Racist ump is racist againist gritty players, if an athletic player slides there, he’s called safe. In this case being gritty didn’t help matters much.

  55. Umbrelladoc says:

    Gardner must have had a bad jump – the ball wasn’t hit that hard. On the other hand, Soriano was out on the steal.

  56. Cuso says:

    Be happy you’re not stuck listening to Hawk wax poetic about how great the play was and he was clearly out ” by a cheek.”

  57. Leg-End says:

    Kuroda dealing, can we sign him for next year already?

  58. stuart a says:

    another missed call cost the yanks a run.. against thins guy that is huge. no need for instant replay fans come to the game to see the ump f up..

    what a friggin joke…

  59. Pat D says:


  60. forensic says:

    Jackson, Thome, Sosa.

  61. Captain Turbo says:

    That Nix does something every game.

  62. Elton Cod says:

    I like to call him Jayson “The Hammer” Nix. He’s been one of my favorite Yankees these past two years. He’s not great, but he’s dependable. He hustles, tries his hardest, and is consistent – unlike most of the “stars” on this team the last two years.

  63. forensic says:

    Geez, sliders that looked better than that were called balls going around the plate. And yet that one’s a strike. When the ump lists are put out, you always know when you’re guarantee a frustrating night.

  64. stuart a says:

    f in ump sucks.

    sale is throwing the ball on the outside around the plate. those are not strikes.

    nunez down looking on a ball.

    gardner is still safe for the blind…

  65. Rolling Doughnut says:

    wrc+ last two years: 88 and 64. You banging his sister?

  66. Cuso says:

    Why do we have a Law & Order extra playing first base?

  67. forensic says:

    YES, please never show that graphic again. It’s very disturbing.

  68. Cuso says:

    Sinatra would not be pleased with the baseball output from his towns this season.

  69. forensic says:

    Whew, I thought that Konerko ball was hit much better than it was.

  70. Eddard says:

    It’s par for the course, if Hiroki is going to get the W he’s going to have to make the 1-0 lead stick.

  71. Tom says:

    So I saw something intereting on MLB Network about a week or two ago that was interesting.

    They looked at teams who shift a lot and the impact on estimated runs saved only on the plays where there was a shift. Of the top 5 teams, 4 saw a DRS (defensive run saved) in the 5-10 range and one saw no improvement whatsoever.

    The Yankees were the one of the teams that shifted the most, and also the only one who saw no benefit from the shift.

    I say this because on the groundball by Dunn, they had Cano shifted way over and deep into the outfield. And the SS for some reason wasn’t even on the 2nd base side of the bag. What’s the point? They are defending one groundball (the ball normally between 1st and 2nd) but just giving up another (the ball normally right at the 2nd baseman)

    • Elton Cod says:

      Just a guess – but some teams shift intelligently, e.g. the Rays know what to do when Cano or Tex come up. Other teams, meanwhile, are managed by Joe Girardi. Girardi really likes Doing Managerial Stuff but is usually not very intelligent about it. (binder, matchups, ‘it’s the 7th, let’s bring in Boone Logan’ to face this lefty, etc).

  72. Wheels says:


  73. Eddard says:

    Hiroki’s probably looking at a ND now at best. Might even get the L if he gives up another.

  74. OldYanksFan says:

    Game over.

  75. forensic says:

    Geez Wells, take a few more stutter steps before you decide to get to the damn ball…

  76. Cuso says:

    If you cherrypicked a 25-man team from the rosters of the White Sox and Yankees combined, you’d have a team 10 games under. 500.

    • Leg-End says:

      I’d take the Sale, Kuroda, Quintana, Nova 4-man rotation. You can keep the offense.

    • forensic says:


      platoon Overbay/Konerko, Cano, Ramirez (he’s not good, but the Yanks are terrible with Jeter hurt), A-Rod (maybe?), Dunn (DH), Rios, Gardner, platoon Soriano/De Aza (?), pick a catcher.

      Kuroda, Sale, Sabathia (I guess you’d have to?), Quintana, Santiago (?)

      Not a terrific team, but they might hang in there alright for a bit.

  77. RetroRob says:

    94 mph? Kuroda throws harder than Phil Hughes.

  78. Wheels says:

    2 big catches for Sori.

  79. stuart a says:

    should be 2 to 1, but heck instant replay would slow the game down too much and we come to see “the human element”..

    classic stupidity….


  80. Cuso says:

    That Sori play inspired a “Dad gum it!” from Hawk.

  81. Leg-End says:

    Romine still hitting. Give him a proper chance Joe!

  82. RetroRob says:

    According to Baseball America, the man with the best bunting tool is now at the plate. Not Baseball America’s finest call.

  83. Cuso says:

    /best hunter in the game right there.

  84. Tom says:

    Either bunt for a hit or square around and do an actual sacrifice. Gardner kind of splits the difference and half asses it, which only puts himself in a hole and then K’s.

    Gardner is just not a smart baseball player (you can see this with his baserunning too). Good skills, but low baseball IQ.

    Gardner now has cost the Yankees 2 runs (not sliding at home and not being able to bunt)

    • stuart a says:

      never running early in the count is his actual biggest mistake.

      he cannot steal unless he see’s at least 3 pitches.

      good ab by wells. nice patience…he with the 180 obp.. what a piece of garbage player…

      again still should be 2 to 1 but hey, love the human error factor, really adds to the game…

  85. dick m says:

    how do you not play Romine. Can they not see that his swings are so much better than Stewart. free romine.

  86. Pat D says:

    Fuckin’ A, Vernon. He walked the last guy.

  87. Elton Cod says:

    A-Rod and Cano back-to-back can’t do anything, leave the RBI work to Vernon Wells, who fails, of course. Feels almost like 2012 but with Vernon instead of Andruw Jones.

  88. forensic says:

    Great AB, Wells. Way to make him earn it…

    And no, Flaherty, one game does not count as ‘lately’.

  89. Cuso says:

    That’s it, Vernon. Just go through the motions tonight. Atta boy.

  90. OldYanksFan says:

    Our 5-9 hitters have a combined -0.8 bWAR.

  91. stuart a says:

    280 obp. you get the point HE SUCKS…

    • Leg-End says:

      His average and OBP are still better than his last 2 seasons. He looks terrible now, he must have looked corpse like in LA.

      • forensic says:

        Yes, but his SLG is way down and he’s playing in a better hitter’s park, leading to a worse OPS+ and wRC+.

        • Leg-End says:

          How much are we on the hook for on his contract next year? We really should just dump him.

          • forensic says:

            I believe it’s around $2.5 million. It’s pitiful and they absolutely should dump him (hell, they obviously should’ve never traded for him in the first place) but I’d be absolutely shocked if it happened anytime before the ASB next season. And I’d be pretty surprised if it even ever happened.

            Just wait, imagine if Gardner gets hurt next year? The Yankees OF would be Soriano, Ichiro, and Wells (or they’ll start the season with a Soriano, Gardner, Ichiro OF and Wells at DH, which is amazingly even worse). That might be the most pitiful OF in baseball history. It’s also a big part of why I didn’t like the Soriano trade.

  92. OldYanksFan says:

    h/t RLYW

    As noted, Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez intends to appeal his 211-game suspension for his role in the Biogenesis scandal, and he’ll remain on the active roster and eligible to play until his appeal is heard and ruled upon.

    And that brings us to this comment from MLBPA head Michael Weiner:

    Michael Weiner: “We’re not going to get [appeal process] done before the season is over.”

    — Danny Knobler (@DannyKnoblerCBS) August 5, 2013

    • Gregor says:

      I don’t think A-Rod is appealing. Sure, he is better than having Cruz or Nix at 3rd. But he isn’t appealing.

  93. Kramerica Industries says:

    Can’t possibly recall the last time MLB had two teams on concurrent 10+ game winning streaks.

    Braves on an 11-game streak and in position to make it 12 tonight, and the Tigers have now won 10 in a row.

  94. Wheels says:

    Duct tape Mike, not electrical.

  95. forensic says:

    Gonna leave the base like that now? How long till someone (likely a Yankee) breaks their ankle after stepping on it and it gives out underneath them?

  96. Elton Cod says:

    What a worthless shit of an inning.

  97. Kramerica Industries says:

    It’ll be nice when the Astros 5-0 and 7-3 leads are gone by the bottom of the 5th inning.

  98. dkidd says:

    god help me, i actually look forward to romine at-bats

  99. Wheels says:

    Uh oh.

  100. Kramerica Industries says:


    • Wheels says:

      That .500 mark is getting close.

      • Kramerica Industries says:

        If this series ends badly, the Tigers could quite feasibly do the honors this weekend.

      • forensic says:

        Yeah, it’s been a steady climb down since late April and early May. If they lose, it’d be their worst record since April 24th.

        • forensic says:

          Ok, fall, not climb…

          • Elton Cod says:

            It’s like they were on an elevator, and the elevator reached a certain floor, and then it started elevating downwards. It’s been going downwards ever since, slowly but steadily. Luckily the elevator cable hasn’t snapped and the elevator hasn’t blown up. Either of those events would cause the elevator to elevate downwards at a dangerous pace. See: Twilight Zone Tower of Terror at Disney World; the opening scenes to the movie Speed.

  101. forensic says:

    Wow, is Konerko slow. That’s almost Pujols-level slowness. Can’t believe that was even close to a DP.

  102. Cy Pettitte says:

    they’re gonna get swept by the White Sox, aren’t they?

    • forensic says:

      I don’t know, but it’s sad that it’s even a possibility.

      Even if they win one, 2-4 against the Padres and White Sox is pretty embarrassing.

  103. Tom says:


    Kuroda got 4 groundballs this inning – only 1 really hit hard.

  104. iced coffee says:

    2-1 in the 6th. Game over.

    This team just moves from bad, to awful, to pathetic.

  105. Kramerica Industries says:

    Just realized this game is on WGN, meaning I can watch it on TV.

    Nah, not gonna do that.

  106. iced coffee says:

    Just saw on Twitter someone posting that no smart free agent would sign with the Yankees in the offseason.

    I have to say that considering how bad this team is, the budget restrictions, and the fact that the best move they have made in a year was Alfonso Soriano? why in the world would a free agent want to come to a losing team like this.

    I do believe we are on the cusp of the late 80′s Yankees team = C+ at best. Yikes.

    • Oy says:

      Where else will Betancourt, Polanco and the like will find plate appearances? It’s either Marlins or Yankees for them and Yankees will pay.

  107. Kramerica Industries says:

    That’s the closest the Yankees get to hitting home runs these days.

  108. Cuso says:

    I feel bad for Kuroda. He left LA for run support. And we give him this.

  109. Hawk says:

    Dag gum it!

  110. forensic says:

    Thomas Neal stepping in now against Papelbon with 2 men on base, 2 outs, and a chance to complete a 4 run comeback against him.

    Go embedded Yankee!

  111. forensic says:

    Well, that’s (almost certainly) game over.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      Despite my ever-present cynicism, I’ve maintained the potential hope for the Yankees to make something out of this season for longer than most people have.

      Well, they’re now going to be on the verge of getting swept by a team that entered this series 29 games under .500 and losers of ten straight. They’re on the verge of a 2-6 roadtrip facing two horrible teams in the process.

      Perhaps appropriately on a night when they are playing the White Sox, I’m going to wave my white flag on 2013 tonight. I just can’t even feign optimism anymore. My only hope now is to finish with at least 81 wins. Other than that, football season really cannot begin soon enough.

      • Rolling Doughnut says:

        2014 doesn’t look much better, unfortunately.

        • Kramerica Industries says:

          It doesn’t look good as long as fucking Hal and Levine are doing things they way they are doing them.

          I’m far from Cashman’s biggest fan, but he’s had to deal with some serious bullshit from those two assclowns.

          • forensic says:

            I’m at the point where I’m up for a complete house cleaning. Off the field leadership, on the field leadership, veteran dreck, just dump it all…

  112. forensic says:

    Come on A-Rod, get a hold of one here!

  113. Lukaszek says:

    There was a time when 7IP with 3ER would be enough for a comfortable win

  114. Tom says:

    ARod’s had some good AB’s these first 2 games.

  115. Kramerica Industries says:

    7-3 Astros to 13-7 Red Sox.

    Amazing what a little fucking offensive capability can do for a ballclub, eh?

  116. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Now have Feces bat for Wells.

  117. Wheels says:

    damn, Jones throws some smoke

  118. your mom says:

    This team never ceases to amaze me.

  119. RetroRob says:

    While I understand Kay’s point about pitching on consecutive days, I’m not sure it matches up with reality. Robertson is on pace to pitch in 70 games this year. 65 last year. 70 the year prior. In other words, he is pitching in as many games as a closer already.

    • forensic says:

      I see both sides of it. Though I mostly side with you, there is something to the potential of higher pressure maybe adding pitches and stress to his outings (though many of his are already high stress). He’s even said (awhile back) that closing a game was the hardest thing he’d ever done on a ball field.

      He’s obviously developed and grown since then, and I’d probably be fine with him succeeding Mo, but there is a semblance of an unknown there. These guys aren’t really robots that aren’t affected by which inning they pitch, as so many people like to think.

      • RetroRob says:

        My guess is the Yankees will bring in some arm as insurance for D-Rob. Even if he is the closer, then they have to replace him in the 8th.

  120. RetroRob says:

    Of course, pitchers have had nothing in the bullpen and gone out and pitched a no-hitter. I think Cone said he had nothing in the pen the day of his eventual perfect game.

  121. forensic says:

    It’s too bad Wells, Weaver, and Torre conspired to blow that WS.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      Conspired to ruin Aaron Boone’s HR is more how I take that.

      Yeah, the last 20 innings or so of that series absolutely sucked.

  122. Kramerica Industries says:

    Well, Addison Reed has his fair share of blown saves.

    Save yourselves, Yankees.

  123. Kramerica Industries says:

    This would be the perfect “bloop & blast” scenario.

    Would be nice to live up to that Bombers nickname right about now.

  124. Kramerica Industries says:

    Sori hitting a home run here would just be really good timing.

  125. OldYanksFan says:

    Do you send Gritner here?

  126. Kramerica Industries says:

    Soriano and Romine K’ed on three pitches there.

    If that’s not completely worthless, I dunno what is.

  127. forensic says:

    How epic would an A-Rod hit to tie or take the lead be?

  128. Dan in Athens says:


  129. forensic says:

    Another terrific AB for Soriano. What a great trade and improvement that’s been…

  130. David N says:

    Well, that little bit of hope was kind of fun…

  131. your mom says:

    This. Team. Sucks.

  132. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Remember when the Yankees put together competitive at-bats? Because I don’t.

  133. trr says:

    The WS had lost 10 in a row before we showed up.
    How bad is this team right now?

  134. Wheels says:

    Nothing is going right.

  135. Mandy Stankiewicz says:

    Chris Sale’s gate, and physical frame reminds me of Ron Guidry.

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