Game 116: Win a series, maybe?

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(Rich Schultz/Getty)

It has been more than a month since the Yankees last won a series outright. They took two of three from the Orioles at Yankee Stadium from July 5th through 7th, and since then they’ve gone 0-5-3 in eight series. The ties came against the Royals, Rangers, and Dodgers. Three teams with winning records and playoff aspirations, at least.

The Bombers can get off that schneid with a win this afternoon after splitting the first two games of this three-game set against the Tigers. They’ll have to beat Justin Verlander — formerly the best pitcher of the world, but now just really freakin’ awesome — to earn that series win, or at least hold out long enough to beat the bullpen. Either way, they’ll have to earn it. Here’s the lineup that will face the 2011 AL MVP:

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. 3B Alex Rodriguez
  5. 1B Lyle Overbay
  6. LF Alfonso Soriano
  7. DH Curtis Granderson
  8. SS Eduardo Nunez
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is left-hander Andy Pettitte, who looked to be finding himself before allowing seven runs in 2.2 innings against the White Sox in his last start. He’s got a 5.32 ERA and 3.69 FIP in a dozen starts since coming off the DL. Pettitte has never had a losing season in his career, but his record sits at 7-9 with roughly ten starts to go.

The weather is gorgeous in New York today. Just a perfect day for baseball. First pitch is scheduled for 1:05pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and TBS nationally. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Cashman's Mistress says:

    I’m actually rooting against this team for the first time in my life. To watch them win would be to reward their penny pinching, the only point of which is to further line their pockets.

    Coming on the heels of the public giveaways, for the stadium and the empty parking lots, how can I root for this organization right now?

    • JGYank says:

      I want the best draft pick possible since we are going to miss the playoffs. It would be nice to keep our streak of winning seasons but I’m not sure the team is good enough. So losing actually helps us in this case.

    • Bo Knows says:

      Then go, if your going to root against a team that has had one bad year out of the last 20, you aren’t a real fan. Go root for the RedSox since it’s obvious your just a f’n bandwagoner

      • Mikhel says:

        Bandwagoner fans are those who are rooting for this team because they don’t know what Steinbrenner did in the 1980s, which is the same thing Hal and company have been doing since the end of 2009.

        Don’t be surprised if they’re doing this because they want to lower the payroll to sell the team.

        But OP is right, to root for this team is to root for the mediocrity of the ownership and management of the Yankees.

        • Bo Knows says:

          No it’s not, rooting for the team is just that, rooting for the team. You can dislike what the Brothers Stein did this year, that’s perfectly fine, but to actually say “I’m rooting for the team to lose” is nothing more than affirmation of the spoiled Yankee fan stereotype.

          Also, what evidence is there that the Yankees are selling, there have been no sources except you and a few other people pulling it out of their asses.

          • Mikhel says:

            First of all, i was through the “bad years”, you know those 70s, 80s and 90s teams? Yeah, I don’t think you’ve heard of those, otherwise you’d keep your mouth shout while rooting for the mediocre team the “stein” brothers fed you.

            I have my sources, way more than yours.

            • Robinson Tilapia says:

              Ownership’s not out there wearing a uniform. Ownership’s not out there playing baseball.

              Like I said again, love the team without loving every single thing about them.

              I’ve wasted enough time on this.

            • Bo Knows says:

              Good for you, that you went through those bad years, you want a fuckin cookie? I know full well about those teams, I know this teams history even though I was born in ’91, it’s not going to change my feelings about this team, I’ll still root for them if they were 0-162. I would despise every moment, but I’m not going to dump them because they struggle.

              And I don’t have to do a damn thing, but eat, sleep, and shit. If you have a problem with that, guess what I DON”T GIVE A FLYING F#%k!

        • The Other Sam says:

          What’s with the accusing people of not being good enough or true fans? I don’t get it, people can’t conceive that you might be a fan of the team and not approve of the ownership actions/direction?

          • Bo Knows says:

            Rooting for a team your supposed to be a fan of to lose? That’s not being a fan, you can add all the other excuses you want, that’s not a real fan and anyone who says that shit, I’ll keep calling them a sorry bandwagoner because that’s exactly what they are.

            You don’t hear Mike saying “I’m rooting for th team to lose” and he’s been as critical of the FO as anyone.

            • Mikhel says:

              You won’t read Axisa criticizing the FO, that’s for sure, if somebody does it in his blog is not him.

              True fans, don’t approve of bad moves, that’s what creates a loyal fanbase.

              Remember the 80s, sunshine, remember how everybody turned their back on the boss because he was hurting the team, and the most efficient way to be heard was to get him where it hurt him: his pockets.

              Everybody heard back then of how Georgie Porgie ran the team, and suddenly everybody knew of his associations and got banned, that’s when the team metamorphosed into something Steinbrenner didn’t knew before: a perennial winner.

              George said time and time again his sons didn’t care about the team, that they only cared about the money and he was not willing to allow them to sell the team, that’s why the team was gonna be inherited to his son in law, then the divorce happened and he backtracked… ultimately the only move he had left was to allow his sons to run his business, and it has been ran like dung.

              • Robinson Tilapia says:

                I was there. I missed the part where everyone turned their back on the team.

                There were kids wearing Mets hats. I never stopped wearing my Yankee hat, and so did plenty of others.

                Anyone who walks away from this team, ever, is someone I don’t want walking back. Plenty of us stayed all along, and will continue to stay.

                Love the team without loving every little last thing about them.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

                You won’t read Axisa criticizing the FO, that’s for sure


            • Robinson Tilapia says:

              Thank you.

              Of course, in an internet forum, you’re going to get shit-stirrers like “Variant on I Don’t Like Brian Cashman, Version 12.0″ who are here more to troll than to be actual discerning fans.

              There’s been plenty of people here whose comments I’ve given flack to before who I’ve read recently say “I stick with this team no matter what,” and I greatly enjoyed reading that from them.

    • trr says:

      By reaching deep into the heart of your essential fandom, and seeing if there is anything there.

  2. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Yanks have been beating Aces all year. Today A Rods cousin showed up with deer antler, monkey taint and goat spunk…A Rod hits 2 bombs.

  3. Kosmo says:

    I wish Pettitte a nice little run to close out the season and his career. 5-3 which would allow him to finish the season at 12-12. I believe Andy has never in his MLB career had a below .500 W-L record. Good luck Andy.

  4. When it comes to Andy/Phil/CC, you almost wonder if this team is going to shock us all and throw the first no-hitter in 14 years, despite the ineffectiveness.

  5. Wheels says:

    Hopefully they can stave off the .500 mark for a little while longer.

  6. YankeeFan says:

    So much for Romine getting a shot…sigh…

  7. Terry says:

    Just an awful job by management on display today. You go with Hunter over Ichiro. You go with Austin Jackson over Brett Gardner. They have just made some terrible decisions post-2009 WS championships and now they have an lackluster farm system and little hope coming in the future. It will be wait until the 2014 offseason and wait for the luxury tax to reset (for like two seasons and then there is a new CBA that could change everything again lol) and hope they buy some FAs like in 2008 to help get them competitive again. Just an awful job by Hal and company on down to Cashman to the heads for the farm/player development, scouts, and heads of international and U.S. amateur scouting.

    And then there is this nugget from Cafardo to drive home the point:

    “The Yankees could turn out to be the best fit for White Sox shortstop Alexei Ramirez as they eventually will need a replacement for Derek Jeter, who could wind up DHing a lot in 2014. The Bombers’ weak farm system could be a stumbling block, however.” From mlbtraderumors referencing Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      The choice was Granderson over Jackson, not Gardner over Jackson.

      • Mikhel says:

        The NYY chose to keep Gardner out of their two young OF because they said Austin Jackson was not ready for MLB, they offered AJax for various players until they found the Tigers who were willing to trade their overpaid old strikeout machine (KKKKKKKKurtis Granderson) for a young, speedy, good fielder, cannon arm outfielder.

        The Yankees basically decided to have an older player at 15 million than a young good player at half a million.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

          Right. They chose Granderson over Jackson. That’s what I said.
          They essentially chose Gardner over Melky.
          Even Gardner over Jackson wouldn’t exactly have been a horrible decision.
          Gardner: 438G, 271/359/383, 105 wRC+, 118 SB, 14.2 fWAR
          Jackson: 525G, 279/345/417, 108 wRC+, 67 SB, 14.6 fWAR
          Given Jackson has an extra year of control and he’s younger, I’d rather have Jackson, but they’ve been essentially about the same value player.
          And fwiw,
          Granderson: 468G, 246/337/501, 125 wRC+, 50 SB, 12.8 fWAR
          Melky: 503G, 299/343/434, 110 wRC+, 42 SB, 5.9 fWAR

          And KKKKKKKKurtin: 25.2% K rate. Jackson 24.2% K rate. Not a very big difference.

          • Mikhel says:

            In reality the only one of their young OF who was deemed untouchable was Gardner.

            Melky was traded because of what happened with Canó and the Yanks were not willing to risk losing Robinson by associating with Melky, the NYY even told Melky he would be traded once 2009 ended, they didn’t like him to hang around with Robinson Canó.

            Then the choice was: Gardner or AJax. The FO guys based on scouting reports, deemed AJax as the one who could give them a better choice to trade because Gardner had already been ‘proved’ in the majors and Jackson according to them was one or two years away from impacting the major league roster; Ajax was offered in the Vázquez trade but since Atlanta wanted pitching the Yanks sent their two young arms and Melky (Atlanta reportedly showed interest in him during the 2009 season).

            Once they moved Melky, their best choice was to trade Ajax, and the Yanks were so in love with Granderson’s K rate and pull-happy swing they were willing to trade more than one player for him, that’s how low they graded AJax, they had to include Coke and Kennedy to get only one player in return.

            Now? they have to pay Granderson 15+ millions to keep him, while he has been as productive as Hunter Pence, minus the fielding and throw, sure KKKKKurtis can bat homeruns, but the majority of his RBI/R are product of his homeruns and he won’t be producing constantly, mind you, since 2000 the average player gets:

            1 hit every 4.2 plate appearances
            1 HR every 36.8 plate appearances

            Sure both Granderson, Jackson and Pence are about the same value, but either you have a 0.240 AVG / 0.310 OBP homerun-strikeout-machine who will get about 100 hits besides his homeruns (in other words, about 100 times he’ll produce or will be in position to score) or a guy who will be producing the majority of his R/RBI with hits and will be in a position to score 160 times (not counting his homeruns). And that’s not even counting the walks.

            Sure, 50 hits less per season doesn’t sound like a lot but IT IS a lot.

    • The Other Sam says:

      This isn’t just for one year. Hal’s already made comments about not having to spend $ to field a championship team. Even after resetting the tax clock, he’s cutting. This is his way of doing business – do everything on the cheap, and when you do spend, spend ineffectively.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

        The “when you do spend, spend ineffectively” part has definitely been true lately.
        As for cutting spending, they’ve spent more this year than they ever have before. I know they’ve said $189M is a goal, but until it actually happens, I’m still a bit skeptical it will actually happen (at least for the next few years), especially considering the current state of affairs with the team.

        • The Other Sam says:

          Agreed. We’ll have to see what they do with the 189. Thing is it’s not wrong, you don’t have to spend to win a championship, but you do have to be smart and effective. Doing that should be the basis for decisions, not the 189.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:


            When I read what you wrote above, I misread and thought you were misreading the intent of that statement.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        “Hal’s already made comments about not having to spend $ to field a championship team.”

        As evidenced by teams with lower payrolls winning championships, which is a thing that actually happens.

        Criticize the steps they’ve taken thus far to achieve that. That’s completely fair and fine. That sentence, on its own, that you don’t have to spend the most to win, is something no one should have issue with.

  8. Really?

    Jerry Meals, that’s blasphemy.

  9. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Well, that didn’t take long. Kinda feel sorry for Andy, not a good way to go out.

  10. Terry says:

    Game. And to think the title of this thread even asks, “Win a series, maybe?”

    At this point, let Warren and Marshall and others try for the last 6 or 7 weeks at starting. This is Darrell Rasner and Sidney Ponson now everytime Hughes starts (I will not lump the great Andy in there, but the way he is pitching, he adds no future value to a lost season(s) (2014 will be a lost season as well))

  11. Wheels says:

    Andy on the ropes here.

  12. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Coulda been much worse

  13. Kiko Jones says:

    As far as I can tell, Verlander has never really done that well in the Bronx during the regular season. So I guess he’s due for a good outing. Let’s hope not. Old Man River needs to give us some vintage Pettite today. Or at least 75% of that.

  14. Also, milestone check

    Ichiro – 3993/4000 hits
    Cano – 199 Home Runs
    Soriano – 1999/2000 hits

    Talk about milestone pressure.

  15. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Theres 1

  16. SDB says:

    I don’t hear any boos now…



  18. 28 this year says:

    Welcome back A-Rod

  19. Cy Pettitte says:


  20. Leg-End says:

    An A-Bomb suddenly appears!

  21. Wheels says:

    An A-Bomb

  22. Lukaszek says:

    Holy crap A-Rod

  23. Cy Pettitte says:

    Soriano should stop swinging at literally everything

  24. Leg-End says:

    Soriano is giving Wells a run for his money at swinging at everything.

  25. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Whoa hit and run, sac flies, homeruns…who the hell afe these guys

  26. WhittakerWalt says:

    This is very confusing. The Yankees had a runner on third with only one out, and then… that runner scored. There wasn’t a strikeout, an infield pop-up, or a double play.

    • 28 this year says:

      I know A-Rod hits a homer, the Yankees hit a sac fly. Its like this game was never supposed to happen and now the universe doesn’t know what to do but throw darts at the wall.

    • trr says:

      What doesn’t make sense is starting Stewart over Romine.
      Stewart is execrable .

  27. WhittakerWalt says:

    And we even cleared the Pitcher’s spot! Great inning.

  28. Dick M says:

    Free Romine.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      Seriously. I defend Girardi a lot of the time, but his unwillingness to play Romine over Stewart is unconscionable.

    • Cy Pettitte says:

      yes please. When Stewart was hitting an empty .275 with like a .330 OBP it was tolerable but .223/.298/.284 and getting the majority of the starts is insane.

  29. Oy says:

    Kay is now mumbling about how Fidler is not showing any hints of “slowing down” and that the Brewers are “kicking themselves” for locking up Braun instead of him. Ugh…

    • Kiko Jones says:

      Ridiculous. You would think the guy who defended Mauer from the Twins’ recent “Oh, he’s to tall to play catcher” nonsense—but conveniently, he wasn’t too tall when being the elite AL catcher he was a few years ago—would not come up w/ that claptrap.

  30. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Order restored

  31. Wheels says:

    C’mon A-Rod. Gotta make that play

  32. WhittakerWalt says:

    The giddiness of having a lead is getting to Ma and Pa’s heads. They have now convinced themselves that Soriano is playing a “great” left field.

  33. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Shutdown inning to go with the HR, sac fly. Impressive.

  34. Betty Lizard says:

    Well we’ve done it before
    And we can do it again!
    We can do it again!
    Do what?

    Beat the Tigers!

    Nah nah nah nah!
    Beat the Tigers!
    Nah nah nah nah!
    Beat the Tigers!
    Nan nah na nah nah na nah nah na nah!

    Beat the Tigers!

  35. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Haha…Verlander is pissed right now

  36. Angels beating the heavens out of the Indians and supposed-ace Justin Masterson.

  37. Cy Pettitte says:

    well that was an odd base hit

  38. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Lol at ARod’s reaction to that.

  39. DERP says:

    That was hilarious.

    But seriously, run next time.

  40. Winter says:

    Ha. Nunez telling Cano not to swing at pitches over his head.

  41. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:

    Haha good for Arod! You know it’s going to kill espn to say “Arod leads Yanks to win over Tigers”.

  42. RetroRob says:

    Yay. Centaur power.

    A-Rod should have totally embraced the Centaur nickname.

  43. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    A Rod still got the arm

  44. Brooklyn Nets says:

    Nice to have Alex back.

  45. nsalem says:

    mark the bird

  46. Karl Krawfid says:

    A-Rod is good.

  47. Manny's BanWagon says:

    He was safe.

    Love those blue shades Arod’s wearing though.

  48. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Watching Alex today is like having lunch with that ex-girlfriend you broke up with, who was never any good for you, getting a whiff of her hair, and wanting to screw her brains out again.

  49. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Iglesias is on the fast track to hitting about .240. The sox dumped him at exactly the right time.

  50. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Hunter did him a favor there

  51. RetroRob says:

    Andy is going to need a 10-pitch inning if he plans to be throwing in the 7th.

  52. SDB says:

    Whew. Andy’s really getting me worried with these jams.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      I only these “bend, but not break” starts from guys……after they’re over.

      • SDB says:

        I think you’re missing a verb there.

        But yes, starts like this are great in the rearview mirror. But jeebus, it’s bad for my blood pressure to sit and listen to/watch so many innings with runners coming on base and hitters going deep into counts against Andy.

  53. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    2 RHH HR’s in one game????


  54. 2000!


    How else.

  55. SDB says:

    Sterling’s singing ‘Who’s Sori now?’ for that one. My ears, they hurt.

  56. Itsallhowuseeit says:


  57. Robinson Tilapia says:

    1. Sooooooori!

  58. Kiko Jones says:

    Fonzi, yeah!!!

  59. The curse of stewie says:

    Why was girardi on the phone is pettitte hurt?

  60. Brooklyn Nets says:

    What did Austin Romine do to Joe?

  61. RetroRob says:

    Come on. They should have nailed him on that.

  62. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Hope that doesnt lead to a huge inning

  63. RetroRob says:

    He’s up because Andy is at 93 pitches already and hasn’t been going deep into a bunch of games lately.

  64. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Good throw has him by ten feet.

  65. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Andy’s last batter DP let’s go.

  66. The curse of stewie says:

    Girardi the quick hook
    We we see dellin today?

  67. RetroRob says:

    I wonder when the last time Andy left a game in the 5th inning with a lead and only giving up a run?

  68. Brooklyn Nets says:

    Bring in Dellin Betances!

  69. Lukaszek says:

    I have great trade proposal:

    Cano, Kuroda, Soriano, and Rivera to Tigers for Migel Cabrera

  70. Kiko Jones says:

    So, yet again the Yankees’ starter can’t get out of the 5th. Is Pettite hurt?

  71. Robinson Tilapia says:

    So hard for Andy to get a good outcome lately. Even when’s he limiting the damage, the pitch count gets him in the fifth.

    I really hope I can achieve that nice grey fade he’s got in a couple of years.

    • SDB says:

      My guess is that if the Yankees win this game and series, Andy won’t care too much about the no-decision.

      • Winter says:

        No, but he knows the bullpen’s been worked hard of late and I’m sure he wanted to give them an easy day.

        • SDB says:

          Well, we’ve got Kuroda and CC pitching the next couple of days. And even with CC being a bit off, he’s still capable of fighting his way through 6 or 7, so hopefully the pen will get into better shape in the next few days.

          Glad they sent Adams down to get an extra arm too.

    • RetroRob says:

      His FIP is a decent 3.60 since he’s hit this bad stretch post the injury. We’ve all seen the bloops and dribblers that all seem to find a way just past a glove for a hit. Yet he’s also compounding the problem with these bad first innings, which limits his distance, and his pitches are not missing as many bats as he was before.

      Still wouldn’t shock me if he has a nice close. Wouldn’t shock me if this is what he is the rest of the way either.

      I highly doubt he’ll opt to return, so wishing him well on what will surely be his final send off.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        “Still wouldn’t shock me if he has a nice close.”

        Couldn’t agree more. I also agree that this has to be it for him.

        • RetroRob says:

          There might be something fitting if his final career start is in that last series in Houston, his only other MLB team, and he can just head home.

  72. Kelley 6th, Betances 7th, Robertson 8th, Rivera 9th?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      I think you’ll see Logan somewhere instead of Betances.
      I’m not sure Joe would use Betances yet to protect a relatively small lead.

  73. The curse of stewie says:

    Girardi did the right thing pettitte was struggling. Now if he would sit stewart instead of having him lead the league in ininng ending outs.

  74. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Shawn Kelley es los huevos.

    • Brooklyn Nets says:

      You need a better English-Spanish Dictionary.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I speak better Spanish in my fucking sleep than you do.

        • Brooklyn Nets says:

          Sinceramente lo dudo amigo. Muchisimo. Porque lo que escribites es, a los mas mejor, idioteces.

          • Kiko Jones says:

            Um, “mas mejor” = “more better”

            • Brooklyn Nets says:

              Mas mejor is an idiom as well in spanish, which means “at the very best.”

              • Kiko Jones says:

                No, it’s not. What you’re looking for is “en el mejor de los casos“. “Mas mejor” is as bad as saying “more better” in English. Trust me, I’m a translator.

                • Robinson Tilapia says:

                  Do me a favor, dude. Give me your best Spanish translation of “Shawn Kelley is the balls.”

                  • Kiko Jones says:

                    Literally, it would be “Shawn Kelley es las bolas” or “Shawn Kelley es las pelotas”. Or, of course, “Shawn Kelley es los huevos.” (You gotta be careful ’cause as happens among Americans, Brits, and Australians, one country’s cool slang is another language’s nasty epithet.) It’s a nonsense phrase, which you pointed out. And, as such, there was nothing wrong with yours to begin with.

                    • Robinson Tilapia says:

                      “You gotta be careful ’cause as happens among Americans, Brits, and Australians, one country’s cool slang is another language’s nasty epithet”

                      So true, and thank you.

            • Robinson Tilapia says:

              The punctuation was just stellar as well. Clearly a guy who should be teaching Spanish at college level.

              • Brooklyn Nets says:

                Never said that. Just said yours sucks.

                • Itsallhowuseeit says:

                  Qué es un troll

                • Robinson Tilapia says:

                  This is what a complete idiot you are. You started an argument on someone’s Spanish skills over a translation of “Shawn Kelley is the balls.”

                  SHAWN KELLEY IS THE BALLS.

                  That, technically, isn’t even correct English! It’s a fucking line from “Anchorman.”

                  If you want to fucking consult with the President of Spain over what would make for a better translation of “Shawn Kelley is the balls,” go ahead, flapjack.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            You’re not tall enough to get on this ride, kid.

            Go back to rooting for shitty basketball teams.

          • Rolling Doughnut says:

            Pues si me choca eso, que escriban puras jaladas. Y en el caso de Tlapia, no es la primera vez que lo hace. So, go to Berlitz or something dude cause you’re not impressing anyone.

  75. Brooklyn Nets says:

    Gardner and Ichiro are both awful too. Punch and Judy hitters. I long for Jeter, Cano, Teix, Rodriguez, Granderson, and the suck.

  76. RetroRob says:

    Jack Clark is an idiot.

  77. Kiko Jones says:

    If the Yankee bullpen can keep things on the level, maybe the offense can drive in a couple off the weak Tiger bullpen. I know, I know. But hey, today’s one of those days, and we haven’t had much of ‘em this season.

  78. The curse of stewie says:

    At boy alex great at bat there

    • Brooklyn Nets says:

      Because unless he goes 5-5 every night he’s worthless amiright?

      • The curse of stewie says:

        1 pitch with runners on base and verlander struggling yes pitch count too

        • Mikhel says:

          Which is one of the many things this 2013 team has done differently than other Yankee teams, nowadays it looks as if they said “ooou his pitch count is high… LETS SWING AT THE FIRST PITCH WE SEE!! wiiiiii!!!”

  79. SDB says:

    God I fucking hate Iglesias.

    • Brooklyn Nets says:

      So does Peter Gammons now.

      • Mikhel says:

        It doesn’t surprise me anymore, the Bosox PR always overhypes their minor leaguers and a lot of the time we’d even see bosox minor leaguers rated higher in or Baseball America than other players who are better, and those players are the ones who get traded for good pieces. The sox do a really good job at that.

  80. The curse of stewie says:

    Ba fungul

  81. Cy Pettitte says:

    Gardner wears his sunglass arms over his ears. that’s kind of odd.

  82. Here comes Boone Logan. Must get him, because V-Mart is a switch.

  83. Brooklyn Nets says:

    Prince Fielder has an .832 OPS vs Lefties.
    Prince Fielder has an .770 OPS vs Righties.

    Joe brings in Boone Logan, a lefty.


    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Fielder 2-2, 2 HR vs. Kelley
      Fielder 3-8, 1 HR vs. Logan

      Neither was an ideal choice.

  84. The curse of stewie says:

    Oh my god
    Everyone start praying.
    About to be pooned

  85. Paul Emmel got a shitty K-zone.

  86. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Is turning Fielder around rally worth it, considering his splits?

  87. Cy Pettitte says:

    Fielder is 2 for 2 with 2 HR vs. Kelley so they might be better off taking their chances with Logan lol

  88. The curse of stewie says:

    Betance or ? Other than drob and Mo rest of the pen sucks right now.

  89. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:

    Lots of baserunners but we’re getting it done somehow.

  90. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Sad thing is if Clark had said that about A Rod MLB would have kidnapped the trainer and broke knuckles until he admitted it was true. Puljous is breakng down physically like every other juicer, ironically no one hates him because of the insane contract he signed

    • Baseball critics think the contract is trash.

    • Kiko Jones says:

      I respect his talent but I’ve never liked Pujols. I seriously believe he’s way less likeable than A-Rod and hides his arrogance and surliness behind his chest-pounding, religious faith.

    • Mikhel says:

      We don’t have to go that far: MLB spied players and Biogenesis’ owners/partners/workers, ‘intervened’ their phone lines, hired ‘hackers’ to snoop around their conversations online; but if somebody else does that and accuses somebody, that proof would not be allowed because it was obtained illegaly (unless it is the gov who accuses).

  91. Kiko Jones says:

    Verlander’s caught a second wind and is just around the 90 pitches mark. The Yankee bullpen better keep it together.

  92. SDB says:

    Please, don’t send Stewart up…

  93. Cy Pettitte says:

    should PH for Stewart

  94. The curse of stewie says:

    And here is the curse to end the inning

  95. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Does Stewart have pics of Girardi humping a goat?

  96. The curse of stewie says:

    Great play by stewie there

  97. nsalem says:

    Wells has hit Verlander in the past

  98. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Verlander plunks Stewart. Best AB of the year for Chris, taking one for the team. Oh my.

  99. Well that’s how you get Chris Stewart on base.

  100. nsalem says:

    and Verlander has hit Stewart now in the past

  101. wow says:

    Why is Chris Steward in this lineup?

  102. RetroRob says:

    Why is the catcher allowed to touch the umpire?

  103. The curse of stewie says:

    Verlander a bit of bitch ….no

  104. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Verlander still yappin

  105. 24/7/365 A-Rod says:

    If that was A-Rod pitching and he said OMG to the umpire, Selig would have banned him 25 games.

  106. Verlander being ejected would be the only reason I would show that conversation.

  107. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    End of the day you are not suppose to be able to argue balls and strikes, Verlander should of been run.

    • Mikhel says:

      Tell that to David Ortíz, he always yells and argues and doesn’t even get reprimanded… heck he destroyed the phone and appelled his fine.

  108. I’m lost. Boone still there for three righties? (V-Mart, Matt Too Long Last Name, Hernan Perez) (Plus three righties follow them.)

  109. Mick taylor says:

    Why this whole series have the yanks not bunted on Miguel Cabrera? He can barely move out there. Girardi is not a great manager. Maybe Cabrera even gets injured more tryin to field It. Either girardi does not want to see him get injured or does not want to show him up

    • Gardner has been playing with the idea. Still has not tried.

    • Kiko Jones says:

      Agreed on the bunting. But have you seen more atrocious bunting than Gardner’s? Ok, you probably have, but still…

      • Jeremy Hefner, Mets.

        He’s reaching Bobby Jones territory.

      • Bryan says:

        Outside of maybe Ichiro and I guess Gardner…who would you want to bunt? You don’t want Robbie to bunt. Arod either. Stewart would find a way to still get out.

      • RetroRob says:

        Yet Baseball America said he had the best bunting “tool” in MLB.

        Not disagreeing with you at all. Gardner is not a great bunter. More stunned by Baseball America selecting him.

      • Brooklyn Nets says:

        On my commute to work I read the article that touted Gardner’s bunting ability as the best in our entire organization…

        Didn’t need coffee that morning.

        • RetroRob says:

          It’s worse than you thought. The article rated him the best in the entire game.

          I think they assigned the summer intern to write it.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      I actually think that last part may be true, which would be incredibly silly.

    • Mikhel says:

      Reminds me of 2004 when Joe Torre knew that Schilling couldn’t run and yet they didn’t bunt once on him to protect Curt from injuring or something, I don’t have an explanation on why they didn’t even try… heck that whole series was weird, Torre brought Javier Vázquez who had given up a pair of homeruns to Damon in their previous two games they faced in the regular season and once in that postseason, and yup, Damon burnt him again. Damon was worse vs Loaiza than vs Vázquez, Loaiza was rested and well more effective all around vs Bosox both in that regular season and that postseason.

  110. The curse of stewie says:

    Robertson and mo
    I like our chances now.

    • RetroRob says:

      I wonder how long it will take for Joe to “trust” Betances to throw a pitch in a MLB game? Not recommending it in this game, but I sure hope he doesn’t rot in the pen for two weeks, and then they bring him into a game very rusty. He hasn’t given up an earned run in 30 innings. Be great to see him while he’s in good form.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

        I’m guessing he doesn’t pitch unless they are 1) way ahead (lol) 2)way behind (when does Hughes pitch next?), or 3) completely desperate for a fresh arm.

  111. Bryan says:

    The fact that the Yanks have a record above 500 means Joe G is doing something right.

    • Brooklyn Nets says:

      This is very true. I give him a very hard time, more than I probably should all things considered.

    • Mikhel says:

      or… WAS, because the NYY are 43-47 since April when the air ran out of their replacement players. Or overall 7 games over 0.500 if you count:

      July 2012 = 13-13
      Aug 2012 = 15-13
      Sept/Oct 2012 = 20-11
      May 2013 = 15-13
      June 2013 = 11-16
      July 2013 = 14-12
      Aug 2013 = 2-6

      In fact besides 4 good months in 2012-2013 the Yanks have been a team barely above 0.500

      April 2012 = 13-9
      June 2012 = 20-7
      Sept/Oct 2012 = 20-11
      April 2013 = 16-10

      Total: 69-37 in 4 regular season months

      Rest: 84-87

  112. The curse of stewie says:

    Much better at bat alex

  113. RetroRob says:

    Nice play to rob A-Rod of a hit, but have to be encouraged that he pulled Verlander a couple of times, including for the HR.

    He was not turning on pitches much of last year, no doubt as that hip was collapsing.

  114. Brooklyn Nets says:

    Brayan Pena would be our franchise catcher.

    True or False.

  115. The curse of stewie says:

    Oh god no another blown chance
    Fuckin tigers hang around like herpes

  116. SDB says:

    crossing fingers and praying that Miggy doesn’t come up to the plate this inning…

  117. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Take your time, Nunez

  118. SDB says:

    Fuck Iglesias.

  119. Cy Pettitte says:

    so sick of Jose Iglesias. He has like 5 hits this series with 4 of them being infield hits

  120. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Wow…bottom of the line up gonna be the death today

  121. The curse of stewie says:


  122. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:

    OK Iglesias, you aren’t on the Red Sox anymore, you can stop being a pain in the ass.

  123. At least its the last time we face Jose Iglesias for now.

  124. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Getting squeezed

  125. The curse of stewie says:

    Drob hasnt got it today
    Pick your poison.

    • Mikhel says:


      A lot of last names in spanish end with an S. His last name in particular is of french origin and comes from a gaul word for “tough” and “primitive”. The ES at the end of the name means “the son of”, same for the EZ, unless it is a non-castellanized name.

      For example, Fernández means “the son of Fernando”, González means “the son of Gonzalo”.

  126. Celerino Sanchez says:

    Robertson is only at 90 MPH with the fastball. This gane could go down the drain quickly.

  127. Cy Pettitte says:

    that looked like a horrible call

  128. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Nice gift. We’ll take it.

  129. Wow.

    That is certainly a bad call? No?

    Rookie ump alert.

  130. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Make up call for game one in ALCS last year

  131. The curse of stewie says:

    Did stewie just tag tori on the second strike?

  132. Brooklyn Nets says:

    Gardner always has a way of reminding me that runs saved = runs scored sometimes.

  133. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I love you, Brett Gardner.

  134. The curse of stewie says:

    Gardner hurt?

  135. Lukaszek says:

    Gardner!!! Wow that was a great play

  136. Cy Pettitte says:

    hahahaha wow

  137. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Nice play. Hopefully Gardy’s not hurt too badly.

  138. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:

    Wow, what a frigin play! Anyone notice Gardner looked hurt for a few seconds?

  139. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Now i see why we traded Jackson….cashman is a genius!

  140. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Huge double play. HUGE.

  141. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Gardy all right?

  142. The curse of stewie says:

    Melky mesa come on up.

  143. Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

    Phil Coke pointing on 390-foot fly balls is one of the underrated pleasures of watching baseball.

  144. Cy Pettitte says:

    you gotta be kidding me.

  145. SDB says:

    Miggy is a beast.

  146. Itsallhowuseeit says:


  147. RetroRob says:

    Has Mo ever blown three saves in a row during his career?

    He won’t here, but wondering if he has.

  148. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Ball caught a lot of the fat part of the plate

  149. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:


  150. Leg-End says:

    Even a hobbled Miggy is a beast.

  151. fabricio says:

    this is definitely not Mo’s week

  152. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Mo throws another cookie to Miggy. WTF

  153. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Mike, what’s the runtime on this edition of WWWMW? I’m looking forward to it ending.

  154. Lukaszek says:

    OMG freaking Miguel Cabrera >.<

  155. SDB says:

    Holy shit.

  156. Cy Pettitte says:


  157. Nathan says:

    You’ve got to be shitting me…

  158. Rolling Doughnut says:


  159. Leg-End says:

    We just witnessed a bit of unfortunate history.

  160. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    wtf Mo?!?!?!

  161. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    That just happened

  162. Nathan says:

    No fucking way.

    • Nathan says:

      I said to my girlfriend before the inning started, “No way he blows three in a row”.

      What the hell are the odds?

      • Mikhel says:

        Considering he doesn’t throw hard anymore and has had trouble all season long? The odds would be high, I guess, specially since Cabrera, Fielder and VMart are fastballs hitters and Rivera only throws fastballs, his 90 mph were mere cookies.

        • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores says:

          Except he’s been great all season long. Hell, he still has very good numbers now.

  163. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:


  164. fabricio says:

    woooooow this really is a bad week for him holy fucking shit on a stick

  165. flamingo says:

    Ugh, I hate WWWMW.

  166. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:

    Well this kinda sucks. But if I see another one of those “Mo is finished” comments I think I might throw myself off a bridge.

  167. Karl Krawfid says:

    Think Mo is getting worn down?

  168. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores says:

    Has he EVER blown three saves in a row?

    This is probably the worst he’s ever pitched.

  169. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Bets on Girardi pinch hitting for Stewie in 9th?

    • Mikhel says:

      Are you kidding? He manages for the homerun, he expects a homerun from every single batter; at least that’s my guess on why he doesn’t manage with strategy and ‘plays’ for the rally.

    • SDB says:

      I think Girardi’s more likely to walk out there as a pinch hitter than Wells or Romine, sadly.

  170. Kiko Jones says:

    I, um, uh…nothing.

  171. Brooklyn Nets says:

    Hope Mo gets it together.

  172. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:

    Mo is just setting up the walk-off.

  173. Al says:

    Mo should just quit now . He’s over the hill he’s nothing more than a set up man now

  174. Nathan says:

    I wonder if he’s not right. My mind is still blown that he blows three games in a row. Either that or the Tigers just have his number.

    • RetroRob says:

      Nah. His cutter is just off right now. Happens every year for a period. Velocity is fine.

      • Mikhel says:

        Since 2009 his cutter has not been as bad, his velocity is lower (lowest in his career at a bit over 90 mph in average but most of his cutters are in the 86-88 mph range with an occasional 93 mph), the movement is lesser both in the X and Y axis.

        • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores says:

          Thank you for the analysis of something you know 0 about.

        • RetroRob says:

          You’re right. He was luck for the first four months.

          Every year for over a decade people come out of the woodwork to predict why this is the end, noting lost velocity, etc., or the fact he has one pitch, or snap in the brilliant “analysis.” Those people are embarrassed a week or two later. You’ll just be the latest, although you’ll change your screen name and go hide.

  175. Dro413 says:

    Sorry Mo you’re done!! Fuck we had this game. They better walk off again.

  176. Kiko Jones says:

    I ain’t no rat—I’m gonna go down with the ship. But, Mike Axisa was wrong: today was the end of the season. I mean, 3 blown saves in a row from The Greatest? What are the odds?

  177. Cy Pettitte says:

    Mo picked a great day to blow another save. No one left in the pen but Betances.

  178. trr says:

    Fucking shoot me now

  179. M&M Boys says:

    What a nightmare of a season. Retire Mo. You are completely washed up. Time to go. And take Pettitte with you. It’s too bad they both didn’t retire after last season. Very bad way to go out. This is sickening and very sad to watch.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      I love how a bad week make a player “washed up”.

    • BFDeal says:

      Did you wake up thinking “I can’t wait to look like an stupid jackass on a message board today”?

    • Ken says:

      Ichiro had a bad start and was labeled here a “waste of roster space.” Looks like that was an erroneous call now, huh? But Pettite is old and washed up, should have retired long ago. Hubris keeps him coming back. And wherefore Mo?

  180. Kiko Jones says:

    OK, here comes the walk-off…

  181. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores says:

    My gosh, this might be the worst I’ve ever seen the comments section. You people are hysterical. I feel like not one, but several of you are just going to kill yourself.

  182. Kiko Jones says:

    For the sake of everything you hold dear, Joe G: PINCH HIT FOR STEWART. We beg of you.

  183. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Joba’s up?
    Better score now.

  184. God says:

    In 1995, I gifted Mo with extra velocity when it looked like he was done.

    In 1997, I gifted Mo with his great cutter so he could be the best closer ever.

    In 2013, I have removed his cutter during his final few weeks to remind him life is full of obstacles.

    Praise the Lord.

  185. Leg-End says:

    Joba up, white flag.

  186. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Holy shit pinch hitter?

  187. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Soooooooooo close

  188. RetroRob says:

    Rather see Betances.

  189. Cy Pettitte says:

    thank christ, no Joba.

  190. Leg-End says:

    Haha! Gardner again.

  191. Brooklyn Nets says:

    Damn Gardy you’re awesome sometimes.

  192. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Gardner 2 walkoffs? What a weekend for him

  193. Lukaszek says:

    …out of all people to hit a homerun!

  194. BigBlueAL says:

    AJax who!!!!

    • Mikhel says:

      The guy who went 7-14, 2 doubles, 1 HR, 1 RBI and 5 runs; Gardner also had a good series going 5-14 with 1 homeruns and 2 RBI and 3 runs.

      Granderson on the other hand went 2-10 with 0 RBI, 0 R and no extrabases.

  195. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:


  196. flamingo says:

    Baseball the best.

  197. SDB says:

    best of all, NO JOBA!

  198. JGYank says:

    Mo is just helping us tank for the better pick. Those of you saying he is done… Just wtf. Relax. It’s great to win but it doesn’t matter much if there isn’t a postseason.

  199. Adam says:

    Great stuff. Complain all you want, this team (limited as they are) really does fight.

  200. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:

    Gardner with a bomb!!!!!!!!!

  201. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores says:


    Bailing Mo out since 2013.

  202. wow says:

    does anybody else notice that Kevin Long always rubs someone’s shoulders when he’s happy?

    I think he has a bit of a Buster Bluth complex going on.

  203. DERP says:

    Love seeing A-Rod run after the helmet. Gardner made it easy for him.

  204. ropeadope says:

    Mo just wanted to be credited with the win!

  205. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Crushed. Way to pick up Mo!

  206. JGYank says:

    Gardy with the walk off bomb and great catch. I ll take him over Jackson.

  207. Jimmy says:

    Is it me or was that the most half-assed celebration at the plate.

  208. Kiko Jones says:


    Seriously, congrats to all of us for not having a heart attack. Ha!

    (PS: Mo needs to but Gardy a Rolex. No joke.)

  209. Wj says:

    Damnit , I was hoping to see betances pitch, what a meaningless hr

  210. wow says:

    Also, that sheet of ice that practically stabbed Gardner in the back of the neck when he got the Gatorade shower? Holy crap!

  211. Cool Lester Smooth says:


    Also, scrolling up has reminded me why I don’t do game threads.

  212. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores says:

    5 blown saves though…has he ever blown 5 saves in one season?

  213. JGYank says:

    Anyone see Gardner here as a part of our future? I can see him hanging around and wouldn’t mind it at all.

    • Mikhel says:

      Nope, unless he focuses his training in the offseason on getting back his speed, because as soon as his speed diminishes more he’ll be useless in the field (his throw is veery weak and gets a bad reading at flies but compensates with his speed). His OBP and AVG will suffer because he won’t be able to beat grounders.

      • JGYank says:

        I don’t mean into his old age just for the next few years until the end of his prime. I really like his game gets on base great defense great speed a bit of power if he hit more homers he would be an all star every year.

  214. ialien says:

    terrible win. whats the point of winning when your out of the playoffs. just keep winning for nothing & further damage your draft position.

  215. VC says:

    Anyone notice Arod’s awkwardness in the walkoff celebration? Haha

  216. Steve Sax Machine says:

    Thanks Brett!

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