Aug
27

Heyman: “Forgone conclusion” that Joe Girardi will be back next year

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Via Jon Heyman: It’s a “foregone conclusion” the Yankees and Joe Girardi will work out a new deal when the manager’s contract expires after the season. “[Hal Steinbrenner] loves Joe,” said a source to Heyman. Brian Cashman confirmed they hope to re-sign him earlier this season.

In my opinion, the 48-year-old Girardi has done by far his best work as the team’s skipper this season. The Yankees still have a shot — albeit a small one, obviously — at the postseason despite all of the injuries and under-performance, plus his handling of the Alex Rodriguez circus has been masterful. The front office hand-picked Girardi for the job close to six years ago now, and as I’ve said before, I think the only way he doesn’t return after the season is if he decides he head elsewhere. I have a hard time thinking that will happen.

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  • gc

    For all the complaining that Yankee fans have done this year, when you look around baseball and see the list of “underachieving” teams everyone expected to be great this year like the Angels and Giants and Nationals and “off-season champs” Blue Jays, it’s pretty amazing that the Yankees have done as well as they’ve done considering the sheer volume and extremity of injuries, as well as the A-Rod stuff. I know nobody wants to hear that right now and they’d rather complain about CC or Hughes or Joba or whatever. But Girardi has done one whale of a job this year.

    • LMAO

      Girardi is a turd that should have been flushed by now! HE STINKS!

      • trr

        @ LMAO
        Thanks for the penetraiting analysis.

        BTW, Your Mom is looking for you…

    • jsbrendog

      yup. i would group the jays with the yankees too though cause they have had insane injuries too, losing reyes for what, 10 weeks, josh johnson has given nothing, dickey has been pitching hurt all yr, lawrie was hurt, batista is hurt, etc. they just didnt get lucky like the yankees.

      • gc

        Which is why I DON’T group them with the Yankees. There have been a myriad of ways in which the Yankees have been decidedly UN-lucky. But of all of those teams, only the Yankees have found a way to stay afloat.

    • Laz

      Hey I said all winter that the Jays really didn’t set them as the favorites in the division. They really still had quite a few weak spots. I was wrong in the aspect that I thought they would be better than last year. A couple new players doesn’t buy you 22 game improvement.

  • Frank

    Everyone considers Joe a “middle of the road manager.” He is probably closer to middle of the road, than elite, yes. But when you consider how well Joe handles the media and all of the ego’s in his clubhouse, I think he is an outstanding manager. The only way I would want him out is if Joe Maddon wanted to come to NY, or Bud Black. That’s really it.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    Even if Joe Girardi doesn’t win another championship, I still think he was the best option to replace Joe Torre.

    If he wasn’t brought back, I’d drive Hal out of town.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      How would you get Hal in the car with you?

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        The pitchfork and torch treatment isn’t sufficient?

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Adam, I hate to break it to you, but that sounds illegal.

  • FIPster Doofus
    • pat

      Love that he stood up for Arod. Players gotta know that she skipper has their back no matter what.

  • steves

    It will be interesting to see Joe manage a Yankee team without any players who were his former teammates and whether his approach or personality changes. I think the most difficult time he had was butting heads with Jorge but, on the other hand, he really never had to confront Jeter, Andy or Mo with less playing time due to performance related issues (maybe that will happen with Jeter next year). The only disappointment I have with Joe is his handling of the Cano non-hustle issue; it would have been a bit of cutting off his nose to spite his face but a benching or even a symbolic fining would have been merited somewhere along the line and just maybe Cano would have changed for the better because of it.

    • Tim

      The moment Cano’s “lack of hustle” affects his play, the team’s play, or the results on the field I’m sure it will be addressed.

      Seriously, has there been a more overblown meme in the past few years than this “Cano doesn’t hustle” tripe? I can’t think of one.

      • steves

        You must have never played the game. A good teammate or coach with any guts would have laid into him a long time ago. In fact when Bowa was around I don’t remember Cano jaking it like he does now. Calling it a meme or tripe doesn’t change the reality of what we see in too many at bats.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Neither does selective memory as to the Larry Bowa era.

          • gc

            well said Tilapia.

          • steves

            Selective memory? You are getting just as lazy as Cano. Just google Bowa and Cano and you’ll see many articles about their relationship. For example look for an Anthony McCarron Daily News article from August 23, 2008 which leads with this: “Robinson Cano learned a great deal from former Yankee coach Larry Bowa, a tough-love mentor who was honest with Cano even when the words stung”.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              No one is doubting they had a relationship. You said he hustled to first more when Bowa was around. Those are two different things.

              Now go ahead and tell me Bowa yelled at him in that tough daddy kinda way that gets things done, which is your obvious next move. I’ll then follow with moving on to something else.

        • trr

          well said Steve.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            TOO MANY WELL SAIDZ

            • RetroRob

              Well said.

              • trr

                We knew that was coming!

      • b-rar

        I could point to at least three instances in the last month where he dogged it to first on a base hit and then got thrown out at second or third trying to stretch, where he would have easily made it if he had been running hard all the way.

        I don’t care about him not hustling on grounders to second, I’d just as soon not risk his health on easy plays, but someone really out to chew him out for not running out hits.

      • OldYanksFan

        It has hurt the team. Every time he has been thrown out trying to stretch a hit, he never ran hard out of the box. I can think of a double recently, where it he was thrown out at 3rd (after admiring his hit for 2 second before starting to lope to 1st base), and that MAY have cost us the game.

        Just like Jeter’s always hustle sets an example for other teammates, so does Cano. Just the wrong example.

        Cano makes about $25,000 per AB.
        I’m not really sure why he can’t run hard.
        He doesn’t have to pop a blood vessel, but It would be nice to see a little effort. Being our star player is no excuse to dog it.

    • LarryM Fl

      I hear you and his lack of explosion out of the box is irritating to me. He has been thrown out a few times if hustle was employed it may have made the difference in being safe. Example third game of the Rays series which we won 3-2 in 11. But Cano is showing that the better lineup around him has assisted his hitting of late.

      I have vacillated all year on resigning Cano to a huge contract. Cano is a very good player but 6/7/8 years at 150 plus. I just can not see. 6 at 120 seems to me as a nice living.

      • Tony dee

        Pedroia deal will hopefully help. I know Cano and his people that the midget signed that extenhtion . Id like to see Robbie show the same loyalty. And having the captain back I think will help with the hustling issue. we’ll see.

  • LarryM Fl

    I like Girardi as the manager. He knows the game. He sees the game and understands what he sees. He is much better with the younger players than Torre. This belief of mind is a positive going forward in the next couple of years with 2014, 2015 being the establishing of the new team. He had much thrown at him. IMHO handle well. This is NY. The white flag does not come out until mathematically eliminated. This is not the place where we play for draft picks. Its tough to play the young guys such as Adams and Romine. He has stood by Nunez who is starting to show improvement. If I have one criticism of Girardi. It would be Romine’s lack of play. But, the kid may had some pitchers such as Pettitte, Nova who need Stewart’s calling ability to work with exclusively. As we move forward Girardi will hopefully switch toward Romine 60/40%. Girardi surely does will with the pitching.

    • jsbrendog

      i think joe being a catcher is exactly the reason for so little romine. if i had to wager romine has a 100% chance of playing everyday next year out of spring training because he will have the familiarity with the staff joe desires. and lord knows what to expect from cervelli.

  • MannyGeee

    I liked the nostalgia of Torre. But so far as managers go, Girardi has been better than most, and has been everything that one could expect for a Yankees Manager…

  • RetroRob

    I have no problem with more Joe. If Showalter was available I’d want him back. I don’t think Joe Maddon, if he were available, would be the manager he is away from Tampa. Frankly, there aren’t many manager who I think are clearly better than Girardi, and he handles NY well, so sign him up.

    If the Yankees ever had to go into a total rebuild, similar to the early 90s when Showalter was here, he might even be better suited for that type of team. Not that I’m hoping to find that out.

    • Kevin S

      They’ll definitely be going into a pertain rebuild with scads of players leaving after ’13. Girardi’s is equipped to deal with that.

    • mitch

      I’d gladly take Maddon, but I agree with you that he wouldn’t be as effective away from TB. A big part of his success is that he’s open to the ideas of their sabr-minded front office. He’s not making all those decisions himself.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I maintain that he manages to expectations and culture in Tampa and that an NYC Joe Maddon would look a lot like……Joe Girardi.

  • HateMclouth (formerly I’mVernon)

    I’m certainly okay with this. He may not be the best, but whatever. He’s kept the Yankees in it this year.

  • Kevin S

    Girardi has his flaws (lineup formation), but he gets his teams to play hard and is careful with the media. Sad that he had to manage during this difficult time for the Yanks. They’ll need his toughness going forward as it may get ugly for the Yanks.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Yeeeeeeeessss!

    Love,
    Chris Stewart

  • RetroRob

    So speaking of Joe Girardi, did Tyler Austin return last night? (Yeah, yeah, I know, I’m off topic, but give me credit for not even attempting to hide it with that non sequitur!)

    I see on the Austin watch, which is to my right, a 3 AB, 2 hit performance. I thought his last game was an oh’fer.

  • LMAO

    Girardi stinks…he an all the Yankees management needs to go!

  • Eddard

    What they need is an outside the box thinker like Joe Maddon but Girardi is ok. Who they really need to replace is Cashman. The Rays and As lap circles around Cashman on a shoestring budget. Teams like the Cardinals have sustained success with a smaller budget. Cashman has the most resources at his disposal, he should be better than he is.

  • JLC 776

    When Girardi gets fired up, it’s a thing of beauty. I have no problem with a long Girardi tenure as long as he loses his mind and goes crazy at least once a month.

    I sincerely think the team always plays better as a result.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Can you imagine if Sweet Lou were to make a managing comeback? The old man meltdowns would be epic.

    • trr

      LOL, if Girardi was managing back in the day, I think he’d be right up there with Earl Weaver on the meltdown meter

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I think it’s been many years since I’ve seen a base go flying. A lost art.

  • trr

    Girardi WILL be back.

    He’s not the cleverest or most innovative Mgr, but he is a proven winner who can handle the shitstorm of the NY media.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Agreed completely.

      I see zero reasons why either party would want a separation right now.

  • RC

    I think it is safe to say Girardi will be back next year. He built a brand new house across the street from my boss in Westchester County, New York.