Aug
11

Murphy reaches three times, Mesa homers in SWB loss

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Sounds like SS Cito Culver has been promoted to High-A Tampa, according to CF Jake Cave’s Twitter feed. No official word yet.

Triple-A Scranton (8-5 loss to Buffalo) faced former teammate RHP Chien-Ming Wang

  • C J.R. Murphy: 2-4, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K
  • CF Melky Mesa: 2-5, 2 R, 1 HR, 3 RBI, 1 K — he’s been tearing the cover off the ball lately
  • RF Ronnie Mustelier: 1-5, 1 R
  • LHP David Huff: 5.1 IP, 9 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 3 BB, 5 K, 6/4 GB/FB — 69 of 105 pitches were strikes (66%)
  • RHP Chase Whitley: 1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 1/1 GB/FB — 13 of 16 pitches were strikes (81%)

Double-A Trenton (5-1 win over Akron)

  • LF Ramon Flores: 1-3, 1 R, 1 2B, 2 RBI, 1 BB — quietly riding a 12-game hitting streak
  • LHP Nik Turley: 7 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 6 K, 1 WP, 6/7 GB/FB — 65 of 97 pitches were strikes (67%) … hasn’t had a walk-less outing since June 8th, a dozen starts ago
  • RHP Tommy Kahnle: 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 2/1 GB/FB — 21 of 35 pitches were strikes (60%)

High-A Tampa (5-4 loss to Daytona) they faced former teammate RHP Corey Black

  • CF Mason Williams: 2-5, 1 K, 1 SB
  • DH Rob Refsnyder: 2-5, 1 RBI
  • LF Ben Gamel: 0-3, 1 R, 2 BB, 1 K — six walks in his last four games
  • 3B Peter O’Brien: 0-5, 3 K — hitless in his last 13 at-bats with seven strikeouts
  • RHP Jairo Heredia: 4 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 1/4 GB/FB

Low-A Charleston (1-0 win over Rome)

  • CF Jake Cave: 2-4 — threw a runner out at the plate
  • 1B Greg Bird: 0-1, 3 BB — his 86 walks are the most in the farm system since UTIL Byron Myrow in 2003 (107) and the most by an actual prospect since the great 1B Nick Johnson in 1999 (123)
  • SS Cito Culver: 0-3, 1 BB, 1 K
  • LHP Eric Wooten: 6 IP, 7 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 1 HB, 6/5 GB/FB — 60 of 81 pitches were strikes (74%) … 27/3 K/BB in 27.1 innings since signing out of an independent league a few weeks ago
  • LHP Tyler Webb: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 0/1 GB/FB — 12 of 16 pitches were strikes (75%) … 31/5 K/BB in 24.1 innings for this year’s tenth rounder
  • RHP Jose Campos: 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 3/1 GB/FB – 14 of 18 pitches were strikes (78%) … do not understand the whole relief thing … doesn’t make sense if they’re trying to control his innings considering the late innings are uncertain

Short Season Staten Island (3-1 loss to Lowell)

  • CF Brandon Thomas: 0-4, 3 K
  • LF Michael O’Neill: 1-3, 1 2B, 1 K, 1 HBP
  • 3B Eric Jagielo: 0-4, 2 K
  • RHP Rookie Davis: 2.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 1 WP, 2/2 GB/FB
  • RHP Kelvin Castro: 1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 0/2 GB/FB
  • RHP Nick Rumbelow: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 2/0 GB/FB — 13/3 K/BB in 13 innings for this year’s seventh rounder

Both Rookie GCL Yanks teams had their regularly scheduled off-days.

Categories : Down on the Farm
  • YankeeGrunt

    SWB lost 8-5.

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    Called it!

  • trr

    Will we see Murph in Sept?

    • NeilT

      I would think so; SWB aren’t going to make the playoffs so probably sooner rather than later.

    • RetroRob

      Is he on the 40-man?

      Before Cervelli went down for the season there was almost no chance for a call-up. Not impossible now, but wouldn’t count on it.

      I’m still not convinced Murphy is any better than Romine, and his catching skills might lesser. He’s just had the opportunity to play.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        He’s not on the 40-man now, but I believe he’d need to be added in the offseason for Rule 5 protection anyways, so they might be willing to add him early.
        I would think maybe Hafner, Cruz, Mesa, or Cojo would be the possivle DFA candidates to make early room.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Both Murphy and Slade have to be added this off-season. Am I right? If so, yeah, wouldn’t surprise me to see Murphy get the cup of coffee. I don’t think anyone should be too upset if he doesn’t, however. We’re still only talking half a season in AAA. The real coming-out party will hopefully be in ST next season.

          • forensic

            Yes, I do believe both have to be added after the season. He could be added in September (teams certainly usually have a 3rd catcher as one of the first call-ups), but who knows. I wouldn’t be surprised if they added Bobby Wilson instead, the way they often act.

            Next year will be interesting though. Cervelli and Stewart will both be arb eligible for the first time. Romine and Murphy would both need to be on the 40-man. Would they really go with 4 catchers on the 40-man? That seems like a high number. Obviously Cervelli and Stewart’s arb salaries won’t break the bank but would they finally end the Chris Stewart era (error…) by non-tendering him instead and sticking with one of the MLB minimum’s of Romine/Murphy along with Cervelli (obviously, could do the same with Cervelli instead but I would certainly hope not)? I highly doubt it, but they could even non-tender both guys and go with Romine and Murphy alone, but again, that’s extremely unlikely.

            • Cool Lester Smooth

              I wouldn’t risk the second option. We know that Cervelli is a decent MLB backup catcher, we don’t know anything about Murphy in the majors, and Romine has been awful in his limited playing time.

              • forensic

                Yeah, I don’t think they’ll go that way, but I’m just throwing it out there because technically it’s an option.

                Given these options, my preference would be to keep Cervelli and Romine in the bigs while Murphy continues at AAA, at least to start the season.

                I do have some concern, though, that their love affair with Chris Stewart might give him the edge, but I would certainly hope not. I don’t know how realistic it would be that they keep all four, though.

              • emac2

                That’s why they have to promote JR this year. The idea that we go into next year without any idea of how he will do in the majors is nuts. What else is there other than getting ready for next year? Arod tabloidism?

                • YankeeGrunt

                  I’m all for promoting him, but a cup of coffee at the end of the season doesn’t give you a realistic appraisal of where the kid is at. Jesus Montero did more in his brief stint in the Bronx than he has done since. Murphy could come up and struggle and it wouldn’t mean he isn’t a viable big-league option next year, or he could come up and mash and it wouldn’t mean he is going to do so out of the chute next April.

                  • Cool Lester Smooth

                    Exactly, just like how his hot first 100 PA in AAA didn’t mean he was ready for a jump to the MLB.

                    • emac2

                      If he comes up and plays well on offense and defense for 100 at bats in addition to earning the endorsement of Girardi I would be fine.

                      Do they have some sort of DMV for baseball where prospects can go to get a license for a major league position or is that what other teams are for?

                      We aren’t going to pick up anyone who is a guarantee for anything if we stick with the 189 and seeing what you have on the farm and having the courage to use it is what building a team is all about.

                    • Cool Lester Smooth

                      We might be able to snag McCann or someone if A-Rod gets a full suspension. Otherwise I would be pumped if Murphy seizes the starting job next spring.

                    • Mac

                      Dude, for the 10,000th time… no one was saying that. No one. It’s a strawman argument that you made up.

                    • Cool Lester Smooth

                      Except for the people who were…

                • Mac

                  You’re not going to find out much of anything about how he will do in the majors in a tiny sample of late season PAs either. You have guys like Shane Spencer, Shelley Duncan, and Montero who come up absolutely on fire only to sizzle out, and you have plenty of guys who struggle when they come up before figuring it out.

  • YankeeFan

    Manny Banuelos, Jose Ramirez, Nik Turley, Rafael DePaula, and Jose Campos. How would you rank them?

    • http://deleted Richard Leo

      Rafael DePaula Manny Banuelos Jose Ramirez Jose Campos Nik Turley
      anyone agree with me?

      • Adam

        Agreed.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Hah, I’d have to put Turley over Campos until he shows he can hold up with a starter’s workload for a full season.

        • http://deleted Richard Leo

          Reasonable.i hope i can find more details about Campos’ now stuff.

          • RetroRob

            I wouldn’t judge Campos too much this year. The type of injury had and how the Yankees are using/rebuilding him means that we probably won’t see his top stuff again until 2014.

            • Cool Lester Smooth

              Exactly, but Turley will be ahead of him in my book until we see his top stuff again.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        The question for me is whether the TJ is enough to knock Banuelos below guys who haven’t reached the upper levels of the minors. I guess the question is what exactly you’re ranking them on.

        I’ll play it safe and prioritize likelihood of MLB success: Banuelos, Ramirez, DePaula, Turley, Campos.

        • RetroRob

          I pretty much agree. I still might rank Campos ahead of Turley if for no other reason than Campos might eventually make the Majors as a solid bullpen arm. Turly is too much of a question mark out of all these pitchers.

          Agree on Banuelos. The others haven’t even approached him yet and he’ll be back on the mound in AAA in 2014 a phone call away from the Majors.

          • YankeeGrunt

            Turley is the least sort of question mark. Post-GCL he has progressed at a level a year, with the expected learning curve and subsequent adjustments. He is on pace for 150-160 IP this year, which means next year he can throw for close to 200 IP. Makeup a plus. Ceiling is a 3, floor is a 4-5. Compare that to Banuelos coming back from TJS and Ramirez with his inconsistency and Campos and RDP with their distance from the pros and Turley looks like the safest bet of all, even if his ceiling is more modest.

      • RetroRob

        If not for the TJ surgery, Banuelos is still the top of the mountain with that group. And since there is such a high success rate and he’s already in AAA, he is still the top. DePaula and Ramirez? Pick’em. Campos after those two. Turley is not even in the discussion.

        • emac2

          I couldn’t have said it better. I would probably take Depaula second.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      Not Mike, but I’d go De Paula, ManBan, Ramirez, Turley, Campos. Campos might jump Turley next year, though.

      • YankeeFan

        Has there been any reports as to Turley’s stuff and velocity? Threw him in there since he is actually having a pretty solid season and his vs. lefties splits is by far his best.

        • YankeeGrunt

          Sustained low-90′s velo with some downward plain (up from high 80′s when he started in the org), good curve, really comes down to his command. If he is locating all three pitches he is very tough to hit, if he’s not he’s going to give up a lot of walks and a lot of hits. Good makeup, has really progressed as the year as gone on.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            I’ve heard he doesn’t exactly have the best delivery, though.

            • YankeeGrunt

              I’ve seen him in person, nothing that jumps out as uniquely unrepeatable or likely to lead to injury. Then again, I’m not a scout.

              • Cool Lester Smooth

                Here’s hoping. I’m just parroting some stuff I read earlier in the year, when he wasn’t doing so hot.

          • emac2

            3 average pitches and relies on good command for success. Interesting as a sleeper pick but not when discussing top prospects which I consider to be players who could be really good instead of player that might get a little coffee.

            • YankeeGrunt

              A lefty who touches mid-90′s (sits low-90′s) and gets strikeouts is valuable no matter how you slice it. He’s a flyball pitcher, which is a bit of a concern going forward, but righty power of course plays a little differently at YS. A righty with his profile might be fringey, he is not.

              • Cool Lester Smooth

                I’m a little leery that this uptick he’s had in the second half is like Marshall’s last year; now that all the top talent has been promoted to AAA or the MLB, he’s feasting on org players and new arrivals from A-ball.

              • emac2

                How often is he touching 95?

                I’m not saying he has no value. I’m just saying his top end is probably as a 3 and more likely he is probably better suited to the NL.

                The other guys could flame out but their upside is higher. I think the other guys have higher ceilings in addition to being more likely to even stick for a full season.

      • YankeeGrunt

        And if Turley can make the jump to AAA while Ramirez is still struggling he could leapfrog him too, even though Ramirez has a higher ceiling.

  • Curtis

    Woo Cito!

    I think he’s been termed a bust way too soon. Still so young. Maybe he turns out to be a Walt Weiss type serviceable SS? That would be pretty good

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Good for Cito. Would love nothing more to see a slower climber who finally starts to figure it out at the plate and proves a hell of a lot of doubters wrong.

  • Curtis

    There has to be a corresponding move to fill the vacant SS spot, right? Avellino to Charleston?

    • http://deleted Richard Leo

      it is very agressive

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      That would be nuts, they already have a couple of guys who can play SS in Charleston, that’s what org players are for.

      • Mac

        Have you ever once seen the guy play?

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          Have you? I just generally assume that, by and large, 18 year olds playing in the GCL are not ready to be jumped directly to full season ball.

          Call me crazy…

    • emac2

      That’s my hope. I would move him up there with Bird (before Bird forgets what to do when I pitcher throws something over the plate)

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    Oh shit, FHoF Pete O’Brien is down to a .267/.303/.494 line in Hi-A! He must have read your biased coverage of him!!!!

    • Mac

      What the hell is your problem?

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Well, I got 99 problems, but an irrational love for bat-only prospects who strike out 30% of the time with an OBP that barely cracks .300 ain’t one.

  • Bob Michaels

    If Nik Turley can turn into another Bob Turley the Yankees would have a solid pitcher.

  • Fin

    Its a sad day when people are arguing if Manny B. is still the best pitcher in the system and maybe the best prospect. The many hasn’t pitched in almost 2yrs by time the next minor league season starts. Its a bleque system right now, maybe next year it will be bright.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      You forget how old he is and how impressive he was. There’s been a lull between the previous batch of prospects and the next one, but ranking Manny highly, in and of its own, isn’t much of a reflection if anything. Still young. Still solid.

    • Mac

      Getting hurt doesn’t automatically ruin your prospect status. TJS is a fairly common injury with a high recovery rate.

  • nycsportzfan

    I’m happy to see Flores picking it up a bit. I see him as a ricky ledee type, and hope he can be even better. Hes struggled this yr, but now is starting to put it together.

  • D23

    I read that ManBan was shutdown with another injury and will be on a monitored pitch count in 2014. Doesn’t sound like to me he is near ready for a phone call away next season. I think guys like Marshall ala Warren, may be one of the guys on the list and ahead of others. Though hhaving an off year, he is going to benefit from having a season under his belt.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Link, please?

  • Wayne

    Rafael Depaula Jose Ramirez are way ahead of Banuelos . After those two I put Nik Turley Jose Campos then Manny Banuelos. In terms of potential, mechanics, and the fact that Banuelos has not pitched in who knows how long it’s ridiculous to put him ahead of Depaula and Ramirez. The first one to come up will either be Turley or Ramirez.

  • Wayne

    It does not make sense to put so much projection on guys who have had surgery before they had a cup of coffee in the majors. Don’t have much faith in them. At that young an age to have those surgeries and depend on them being your future just makes no freaking sense! Ala Banuelos as a starter or Betances at all.

  • MJ

    Was at the SI Yanks game yesterday to get my first look at Eric Jagielo and Rookie Davis. Davis was hitting 94 on the gun; not sure why he only pitched 2+ innings since he looked good overall.

    As for Jagielo (and the rest of the lineup yesterday), they were overmatched by Lowell Spinners LHP McGrath who threw 5 perfect innings and had a fastball/curve combo working yesterday. Jagielo whiffed on a couple of nasty hooks.

    Looked alright in the field, as did SS Murphy and 2B Crespo.

  • nycsportzfan

    Rumbelow has a 0.00ERA over his last 10appearences. Be kinda sweet to see him move up to Charleston for a cup of coffee before the end of the yr.