Aug
18

Williams and Jagielo go deep on day of walk-offs

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Triple-A Scranton (2-0 win over Lehigh Valley, walk-off style)

  • 2B David Adams & C J.R. Murphy: both 0-4 — Adams walked and whiffed
  • CF Melky Mesa: 2-5, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 SB
  • 1B Dan Johnson: 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1 BB — walk-off two-run dinger
  • LF Ronnie Mustelier: 2-4
  • RHP Caleb Cotham: 6.2 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 5 K, 9/4 GB/FB — 59 of 93 pitches were strikes (63%)

Double-A Trenton (2-1 loss to New Hampshire, walk-off style)

  • DH Mason Williams: 1-4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 K — first homer with the Thunder
  • LF Ramon Flores: 1-4
  • CF Ben Gamel: 0-4, 1 K
  • RHP Scottie Allen: 6.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 4 BB, 2 K, 7/5 GB/FB — 56 of 98 pitches were strikes (57%) … just up from High-A Tampa to held out a short rotation
  • SwP Pat Venditte: 2 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 1 WP, 1 Balk, 2/1 GB/FB – half of his 36 pitches were strikes, but one of the walks was intentional
  • RHP Danny Burawa: 0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K — five pitches, three strikes

High-A Tampa (3-2 win over Lakeland, walk-off style)

  • SS Cito Culver: 0-4, 1 K
  • CF Taylor Dugas: 2-3, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 BB
  • 2B Rob Refsnyder & 3B Peter O’Brien: both 1-4, 1 R — O’Brien struck out and committed a throwing error
  • 1B Dan Fiorito: 1-3, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 SB — walk-off single
  • RHP Rafael DePaula: 4 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 1/4 GB/FB — 43/22 K/BB in 39.2 innings at this level
  • RHP Charley Short: 1.2 IP, zeroes, 1 K, 2/0 GB/FB

Low-A Charleston (5-4 loss to Rome)

  • CF Jake Cave: 0-4, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K
  • 2B Angelo Gumbs: 0-3, 1 R, 2 K, 1 HBP
  • 1B Greg Bird: 3-4, 1 R, 1 2B, 2 RBI, 1 K
  • 3B Dante Bichette Jr.: 2-3, 1 2B, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 E (fielding) — had two hits in his first 16 at-bats off the DL (.125)
  • RHP Kelvin Castro: 2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 WP, 1/1 GB/FB — 36/8 K/BB in 25.2 innings for the converted infielder

Short Season Staten Island (3-2 win over Tri-City in eleven innings, walk-off style)

  • SS Abi Avelino: 1-6 — exactly one hit in three of his four games here
  • DH Eric Jagielo: 4-6, 2 R, 2 2B, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 K – walk-off homer, his second dinger in as many days … eleven hits in his last 34 at-bats (.324) with seven doubles and two homers (.706 SLG)
  • CF Michael O’Neill: 0-5, 2 K – back after missing two games following a hit-by-pitch
  • LHP Conner Kendrick: 3.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 4/5 GB/FB

The two Rookie GCL Yanks teams had their regular Sunday off-day.

Categories : Down on the Farm
  • forensic

    Hopefully this walk-off trend doesn’t carry over to tonight in Boston.

  • Joel

    I mean, I knew venditte was a SwP, but he’s also a RHP? It boggles the mind.

    • Joel

      Hey, thanks for the heads up, Joel. It was Dan Burawa. Little typo.

      • Joel

        No problem, Mike Axisa.

  • trr

    4 hits too for Jag… Hope he progresses quickly.

    • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

      The scouting reports seem to suggest he will progress quickly. Hopefully that holds true. Prospects are still suspects after all.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Well Jagelio seems to be back. Looks like he’s on track for DI’s 2014 Opening Day roster.

    So Scottie Allen……been in the system a couple of years, just up to AA. Any prayer of being above an org arm?

    • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

      I think so. Maybe a nice bullpen arm? He’s supposed to have good stuff if I’m remembering correctly.

  • mason

    man does any1 think by years end bird is a top 100?

    • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

      Probably not. I like Bird, but he’s putting up very good numbers at a position you’re supposed to put up very good numbers at. Unless he starts posting flat out crazy numbers, I wouldn’t expect him to be considered a top 100 guy until he proves he can do this in AA.

      He’s been great though, I’m not trying to take anything away from that, but his position value certainly hurts his ability to be viewed as a consensus top 100 guy.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        I couldn’t have said it better myself.

        Watch out, Angelo! You’re turning into a crazy, relentlessly negative pessimist like me!

        • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

          Hah, we’re just realist and that’s sometimes viewed as pessimism.

          • Bryan

            Here’s the thing though. The numbers Bird is putting up in his age 20 season at 1b are far and away better than almost everyone.

            http://www.pinstripedbible.com.....comparison

            In case you are too lazy to read, here is the most important thing to remember. The writer analyzed MiLB hitters from 06 to 09 (so that they should now be in the majors if pretty good) who put up a 130 wRC+ in their age 20 season – for comparison Bird is at 169. Only 21 players over that time frame fit the bill.

            “However, you will notice out of the 21 players who met this criteria, 17 have debuted in the big leagues so far, an astounding 81% success rate, when prospects tend to be much less of a guarantee than that as a whole. And if you look at those with at least a 145 wRC+, that number jumps to over 92%. They made their debut within 2.5 years on average (two years as a median), and have averaged 4.7 fWAR (1.8 fWAR median) in their careers so far. If you take out the 2009 players, half of which have made their debut this year, the numbers go up to an average of 5.5 fWAR, and a median of 4.0 fWAR.”

            So forgive me for not being a pessimist and being an all-around optimist in regards to Bird.

            • Cool Lester Smooth

              And how many of them were 1B at the time and/or are now?

              • Bryan

                …Does that matter? At all? If the player starts and ends at 1b or starts somewhere else or ends at 1b (like many on the list) does it make a difference? Because I thought the goal was to make the team better. We will need a 1b in two years…right when Bird will be most likely ready. So once again, what the hell does it matter if he is 1b? He is here for the bat.

                • Cool Lester Smooth

                  Yes. It does matter. It makes a huge difference.

                  The only players on that list who hit enough to be acceptable starting first basemen are Freddie Freeman, Giancarlo Stanton, Jay Bruce and Jason Heyward. Even Bruce and J-Hey would only be 3 win players, at best, at first base.

                  So, out of those 21 there are 4 acceptable starters and 2 impact starters at first base. That’s a 19% success rate, and a 9.5% rate of impact players.

                  So, I’d actually say that your article did a great job proving our point.

                  • Bryan

                    Given that last year, all of six 1b put up a WAR over 3, and that in 2011 only eight players had a WAR over 3, I would take a top 10 performance from out 1b every year. The fact that he was leaps and bounds above everyone else at the position and in the league in general, he does deserve talk of top 100 prospect lists. Heck, consider this. Billy Butler has for a career a 358 wOBA and 10 WAR while essentially playing no defense at all. He can’t even play 1b. Are the Royals better off without him? Given what we know now, would Butler still be a top prospect when he was flying through the system? If you answer no to that question you are insane. Baseball prospects is a difficult thing to do. A player that hits the ball will have a much easier time finding work than a player who plays defense but can’t hit worth anything. That is why Bird will be top prospect…while someone like Cito Culver will be lucky to ever be considered an org guy.

                    • Cool Lester Smooth

                      What does Billy Butler, who put up a 130 wRC+ in AA when he was 20, have to do with Greg Bird?

                      Likewise, J-Hey and Stanton but up a 134 and 118 wRC+ respectively in the majors when they were Bird’s age, while Bruce and Freeman put up a 151 and 140 wRC+ respectively in AAA.

                      So the only players on that list who hit enough to be starting first basemen are really not comparable to Bird in any way, shape or form.

                      You know, that PSA article is actually getting me pretty down on Bird. Why did you have to bring it up?

            • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

              I read the article. It’s a pretty good one actually. Thanks for posting the link.

              The article makes some good points, but still fails in some important ways. Out of the 21 players that posted a 140 wrc+, 9 of them were 20 years old. Out of those 9 players 4 (Denker, Cunningham, Royster, Whittleman) have done nothing worth talking about or have failed miserably. On to the next 5 guys:

              Taylor Green, 26 made his debut this year and has played terribly for Milwakee.

              Jake Smolinski, 24 has been very mediocre since posting a 140+ wrc in Low-A.

              Alexi Amarista has been a below average mlb hitter (85 wRC+ 2012 and 91 wRC+ 2013) thus far and barely useful overall. That can change, I guess.

              Derek Norris, has been a useful platoon/back up catcher. Over his two seasons in mlb he’s posted a 71 wRC+ and a 106 wRC+ so far this year.

              Ben Revere, probably the most high profile name out of the 20 year olds on that list hasn’t had a season with a league average wRC+. He’s not known for his hitting as we all probably know.

              In conclusion, only ONE of these players has had slightly above average mlb production with his bat thus far. Most of them either failed completely or are AAA guys. In terms of hitting, only Derrick Norris is worth mentioning as a hitter with a 107 wRC+ this year.

              This isn’t to say that Bird will fall flat on his face, but it’s to say that out of the NINE 20 year olds that posted a 140 wRC+ in Low-A, only one has made a decent contribution with their bat in MLB. The others are either below average or never made it for more than a cup of coffee.

              I love Bird, but sorting through numbers and recent history suggests that Bird’s numbers don’t mean all that much. If anything it shows that almost all players that put these numbers at the same age have straight up sucked since then. I think Bird will have more success than a lot of these guys, but no one from 2006-2009 with the same age and similar numbers did much with their bat to this point.

              I hope you read all that! I took a lot of time to make this point!

              • Cool Lester Smooth

                Yeah, all of this, too.

                That list actually kinda bummed me out about Bird’s chances.

        • Mac

          Saying that someone is a good prospect who you don’t think will make top 100 lists (meaning basically a top 3 prospect in the average org) is not at all the same thing as jumping on every single commenter who says even a slightly positive thing about a prospect.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            FHoF Peter O’Brien isn’t a good prospect, though, so it’s not being pessimistic to remind people of that when they get too excited about a bat only player with a .308 OBP in Hi-A

            • Mac

              Opinion vs. fact. Gets a little annoying when you keep jamming your opinion down everyone’s throat as a fact. How many times have you ever seen O’Brien play? Bird? You have these really, really strong opinions that are probably coming from a place of total ignorance. Hard to have much opinion at all on prospects you don’t watch.

              • Cool Lester Smooth

                Are you a scout, Mac? Why do you think Peter O’Brien is a good prospect. It’s not his defense, because his defense is terrible by all accounts. Is he going to be the first 22 year old with huge contact problems and a .308 OBP in A-ball to become an above average major league hitter?

                Please answer, I’m interested.

              • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

                What scouting reports are you reading that suggests O’Brien is going to be a good mlb player? Just curious. He strikes out a ton with a low walk rate and he’s old for Tampa. On top of playing a poor 3B so far.

                It’s not ignorance, there are plenty of “facts” that suggests there are a lot of red flags with O’Brien.

                I’m rooting for him, but you don’t have to watch a prospect play in order to evaluate their talent. I leave that to the professionals (scouts), and then take that information along with statistics and my own knowledge about prospect development and come to a conclusion.

                Unfortunately, that conclusion is that people fall in love with O’Brien because he can hit a homerun with a somewhat respectable average and ignore the other important facts. It blows my mind how often people do this.

                • bMONTES

                  Obrien will be on the MLB roster by all star break next year. Mark my words

  • pat

    Bird needs to be in Tampa.

    • CS Yankee

      Agreed, no Tampa talent is holding him back…let the kid move up and enjoy the facilities in the off season.

      Free Bird!!!!! (to high A that is)

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        But what about Saxon Butler?!!!!

        • Samuel

          Saxon Butler is in Trenton.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            He got promoted? Good for him, I though Kyle Roller was Trenton’s resident 1B/DH org guy.

      • Samuel

        And as I mentioned a few weeks ago, I believe the Yankees will promote Greg Bird to Double A Trenton for the AA playoffs, if Trenton does indeed make it.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          Here’s hoping. It will be cool to see how he does in AA.

        • Bryan

          He should be promoted no matter. He is only 20 which would be super young for the league but he has proven to have an elite bat at his current level. The Yankees should be willing to move him forward sometime soon.

  • nycsportzfan

    One of my fave sleeper prospects since hes signed has been Caleb COtham. I love the smart vandy kids and he knows how to pitch. The injuries have derailed him but he getting it done now. I’m telling u, this dude will be better then Warren and Phelps if he stays healthy. Cotham can flat out pitch!

  • nycsportzfan

    Wasen’t a huge nite in farm land, but Depaula,Cotham, and Jaigelo certainly beasted on whole nother level! Jaigelo is gonna be awesome! I just hope Depaula continues to follow suit.

  • Wayne

    They might have cotham start on Saturday depending on what happens with the doubleheader on Tuesday. I don’t expect Hughes to pitch well against Toronto. Someone should post a video on cotham from YouTube if he is is indeed given the start. How old is he by the way? Could he be another david phelps but with injuries behind him and no longer a factor after this hopefully . Damn i can’t help wondering what situation would be had we kept José Ramírez in aa all this time.He might be spot starting for us now instead of warren. He would Have been pitching the best for us at aa and closer than anyone at aa or aaa. Sure hope to see him come back before september is here. Who knows.

  • pounder

    Go Danny Fiorito, the YO is proud of you.