Game 142: Push Back

How many outs will the Yankees make on the bases today? (Rich Schultz/Getty)

How many outs will the Yankees make on the bases today? (Rich Schultz/Getty)

These last two games could not have gone any worse for the Yankees. They continue to get pushed around in their own building by the Red Sox — Boston has won 19 of their last 30 games at Yankee Stadium — and their three most reliable setup relievers have all suffered some kind of arm injury. Outside of Cesar Cabral and maybe Matt Daley, the rest of the September call-up filled bullpen has been completely ineffective these last few days.

Even though the Rays have been losing, New York’s playoff hopes are fading fast because there simply isn’t much schedule left. They’re three back of Tampa for the second wildcard spot in the loss column with three head-to-head meetings left, but there are only 20 games left in the season after today. The Yankees also have to jump over the Orioles and Indians (again), the Orioles they meet for four games next week and the Indians who have the easiest schedule in baseball down the stretch. These last two games didn’t eliminate the Bombers from the postseason, but it sure feels like they did. Here’s the lineup that will face righty John Lackey:

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. SS Derek Jeter
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. LF Alfonso Soriano
  5. DH Curtis Granderson
  6. 3B Eduardo Nunez
  7. 1B Lyle Overbay
  8. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  9. C Austin Romine

And on the mound is … left-hander David Huff. Sigh. I know he’s had three pretty good long relief outings recently and could certainly do something similar today, but I have very little confidence in him against this Red Sox lineup.

It’s cloudy and cool in New York with no chance of rain. I’m not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing. First pitch is scheduled for a little after 1pm ET and can be seen on FOX. Try to enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. trr says:

    I’m still stunned after the last 2 games. I need a break.
    Ladies and Gentlemen, I’m gonna sit this one out.
    Maybe it’ll change our luck.

    Find a way to win!

  2. Seriously. Yes, it is a blessing the Rays lost the last two games.

    It’s also something that will makes us tear our hair out because the Yankees absolutely should have won these past two games.

    Regardless of what happens, the Yankees ONCE AGAIN will have a losing home record against the Red Sox this year, which is the fifth time in eight years (third time in four years at the new Stadium) the Red Sox have done that. It’s pathetic how poorly the Yankees defend their ballpark from their chief rival.

    Most concerning? We probably thought the first two games were the ones the Yankees were most likely to win. Now in order to even split this series, they’ll have to win the two least favorable games. What a nightmare. I’ll be here in spirit.

    • Just to expand on this a little bit – the Yankees have only taken THREE home series from the Red Sox since 2010 began.

      May 2010: 1/2
      August 2010: 2/4
      September 2010: 1/3

      May 2011 AND June 2011: 0/3
      September 2011: 2/3

      July 2012: 1/3
      August 2012: 2/3
      September 2012: 3/3 (only home sweep since 2009)

      April 2013 AND May/June 2013: 1/3
      September 2013 (so far): 0/2

      Pathetic. Two of those series’ victories came against the worst Red Sox team in 47 years. Otherwise, nothing but letdowns.

  3. SDB says:

    I think I’ll need some alcohol this afternoon. Fingers crossed.

  4. Eddard says:

    Earlier in the year they could pitch but not hit. Now they can hit but not pitch. Dave Huff is a lamb going to slaughter. This team was eliminated with these past 2 losses. You just don’t come back from something like that.

  5. SDB says:

    Is it a rule that every Red Sox player needs to have an incredibly douchey caveman beard?

  6. Ethan says:

    Obvious fox bias makes me sick.

  7. Leg-End says:

    Vasgersian? Hey its like playing The Show.

  8. Also with Holbrook’s strike zone and Joe West at third, I put ejection over/under at 1.5 ejections and go over.

  9. Leg-End says:

    Napoli again, FFS.

  10. SDB says:

    Napoli + HD TV is just a bad, bad combination.

    Time for a drink.

  11. Fucking unreal how Napoli destroys this team.

  12. Bo Knows says:

    Yankees forbid facial hair, because looking like a professional rather than a bunch of pedophilic, serial killing hobos should be looked down upon

  13. Leg-End says:

    I very rarely get to watch FOX games, being from old blighty and all. But is it always this bad? Bad as in everything the Red Sox does is marvelous and everything the Yankees do is evil?

  14. JGYank says:

    And another HR. The sucking continues. I just to know why we can’t win one frickin game against their team especially while we are swinging the bats well. We could get swept if this keeps up. If we to make the postseason we have to go like 15-6 to just get to 90 wins thanks to these last two games. We needed to win at least one of them. We had to go 3-1 in this series but forget that now. If we did we would be a half game behind the Rays but we just suck against the Rays and RS, the two most important teams to beat in our division of course. Our record this year is pretty inflated by the Blue Jays otherwise we would be around .500. Just a bad year full of injuries and a bad way for Mo to go out.

  15. Winter says:

    I like that Granderson is bunting against the shift, but all his bunts have been terrible.

    • Honestly, I’m in the Jim Leyland boat of over shifts….aka we don’t use them.

      • Bo Knows says:

        with the tigers infield, I doubt they could do it competently. They only have one IF that can even be considered not shitty and that’s iglesias who’s an excellent fielder

        • I don’t question that, but Jim Leyland is known to be a no-no on overshifts and honestly, I agree with him.

        • 28 this year says:

          Wouldn’t those who are excellent fielders have less a need to shift since they are already competent enough to get to most parts from their standard positions? I would think a defense of poorer fielders who see more drastic improvements from well thought out positioning shifts since they woudl be closer to where the ball is hit and thus need less range to get to more balls than from standard positioning.

          Being bad at fielding shouldn’t preclude a team from shifting. If anything, shifting is a way to take immobile fielders and get them closer to the ball. Good fielders are good no matter what. They woudl benefit from shifting but considering they already get to most balls, the net benefit of shifting would be minimized.

    • Bo Knows says:

      he’s got to work on it, his bunts are too hard; but at the same time he plants that in their minds, the shifts will lessen

      • Winter says:

        Too hard? They haven’t been hard enough. He hasn’t been getting to past te pitcher, which is what he needs to do.

        • Bo Knows says:

          I want his the balls to die early and quickly, like how Ichiro’s do. If they died before they reached the mound Grandy would be safe

          • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

            That kind of bunt would have nothing to do with the shift, and likely little impact on lessening the shift, as they would be successful regardless of the shift.

  16. Kenny says:

    The reason they can’t win even one lousy game (so far) is that they’re not as good a team as the Sox. Now it’s the pitchers who are AWOL.

  17. Pat D says:

    Since I don’t drink, I can’t bear myself to watch this game. The combination of FOX, seeing these ugly motherfuckers in daylight, and that I have better things to do just makes me skip this one.

  18. Leg-End says:

    Yeah, that will do me. See ya chaps.

  19. dot says:

    Fuck this game.

  20. So, umm, another Red Sox home run?

    go figure.

  21. Kenny says:

    Wow! Guess Huff was an illusion after all.

  22. Kenny says:

    Maybe this awful series will shame Stein into deep-sixing the 189 policy. Not sure even that can save 2014 though.

  23. Jorge Brosada says:

    Glad I’m only occasionally checking the score on gameday. I feel pretty calm because I’ve realized that the Red Sox have just exposed this team for what it is.

    Anyone who thinks the Yankees are currently a playoff team is in denial

    • JGYank says:

      If CC, Hughes, and Joba gave us anything this year and we didn’t have all those injuries we could have been a lock for the playoffs but things just didn’t work out.

  24. Cy Pettitte says:

    these narratives are so fucking stupid, “Everywhere Johnny Gomes has gone, he’s won” Johnny Gomes has played in 3 postseason games in 10 seasons prior to this year.

    • It’s almost as if McCarver is too senile to remember that Gomes spent years playing on those awful Devil Rays teams.

      I don’t even think he was on the Rays’ playoff roster in 2008. Those three games probably came with the 2010 Reds, the 2012 A’s, or a mixture there-of.

      • Cy Pettitte says:

        yea, 2 games vs. PHI in 2010 with CIN and 1 AB vs. DET with OAK last year. Even better: in those 7 ABs he’s 0-7 with 3 K’s. And in 2008 with the Rays he hit .182/.282/.383 and didn’t play in the playoffs. He’s just a winner

        • He had a legit fine season with the A’s last year, I’ll give him that.

          But the guy is a tatted up fucking freak. The Red Sox have really taken it to a new level this year as far as having players that non-Red Sox fans absolutely cannot stand.

        • But to the point, the 2008 Rays and 2010 Reds successes (if hitting a ton of walk-off hits, winning 91 putrid games and getting swept in the NLDS is really “success”) had zero to do with Gomes. He was around winning teams. He wasn’t any part of the reason they won.

    • Pasqua says:

      That one made me want to break my television. Complete and utter bullshit. It’s like, “Gomes does something good…say something to make him sound good…even though he’s not!”

      (I also hate Gomes with a passion. He strikes me as a guy who truly believes he’s a great baseball player even though he’s completely mediocre in every way.)

  25. Remember when the Yankees had a 10-3 record at thew new Yankee Stadium against the Red Sox?

    For those who don’t have the numbers memorized, that record is highly likely to be 21-25 after tomorrow.

  26. The bright side to all of this, is that it’s not like DRob, Logan, or Kelley would be needed today anyway.

  27. Leg-End says:

    Ok I’m still watching because of the Ichiro catch. Is this McCarver schtick? Even when the Yankees do something productive or positive, make sure you point out something good for the Red Sox too.

    Cano just hit a 0-2 ball for a nice RBI single, McCarver comments on how Gomes got the ball in to hold him to a single. I mean what? That was a routine play you dummy.

    • Kenny says:

      Look, it’s some sort of “Boston” thing, with these network people. They’ll tie themselves up trying to put in a good word for the Sox, even if the other team has just hit a HR (“Gomes made a great effort, but the wind carried it over”). Much better to watch on mute.

      • Jackb says:

        Wow, this is how far our team has fallen. Whining about the announcers being unfair. Lol. Fuck, grow a pair. You sound like Red Sox fans pre 2004. You’re embarrassing. Unless you’re 12 please shut up.

        • Kenny says:

          If you don’t see it, you’re dumber than shit on a stick. And when it comes to shutting up, start with yourself asshole.

  28. It was worth a shot, since Hughes is atrocious, but I guess David Huff is realizing that those aren’t the Blue Jays he’s facing.

  29. What’s gonna be funny, is that we said that this needed to be a 7-3/8-2 type homestand, the Yankees started off 5-1, but are gonna finish it 5-5.

    Kind of appropriate for the entire season. Every time they gave us reason to get excited, they found a way to completely kill the buzz.

  30. Anderson Silva says:

    New York Massacre

  31. Wedge says:

    Complete disfunction. This series reflects the entire organization. Once you start taking focus off of the product on the field you get these results.

  32. Need Anybody that can actually get outs says:

    This is getting ridiculous.

  33. The Real Greg says:

    So lets blame Girardi for this as well, huh?

  34. JGYank says:

    Let’s be honest. With all the injuries and crappy performances (CC, Hughes, Joba, Ichiro, Wells, Hafner, all the scrubs) we shouldn’t have been a winning team this year. Think about all the positions we didn’t get production out of. It’s amazing we are in contention at all. Think about what could of been if we had fewer injuries and guys like CC did what they were capable of doing. Without all that we could have been a pretty good team contending for the division title. But the injuries crippled us and so did the guys who underachieved. The front office hurt us as well. Come on who on the team besides maybe Overbay, Kuroda, and Nova overachieved this year? No one. We had terrible luck and there isn’t much we could do about it.

  35. Yan says:

    Yes, continue to run out wash ups rather than at least see what the young guys can do? I much rather see Marshall/Warren/Betances get smacked around than these losers that are never beens.

  36. Honestly, with the way the Red Sox are going right now, it would probably be difficult for an all-time Yankees team with the likes of Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Combs, Meusel, Jeter, Ruffing, Reggie, Catfish, Gossage, Rivera, WHOEVER THE HELL HAVE YOU would beat the Red Sox right now.

  37. J 22'Yankees says:

    Haha, sure. Bring the infield in! Because it really makes a difference if we lose by 9 or by 10… =(
    Why did I stay home today for this?

  38. Gonzo says:

    This is what is sounds like when doves cry.

  39. WhittakerWalt says:

    Good night, everybody.

  40. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:

    What an embarrassment. Really unbelievable how these dirty, hairy hobos carried this team from last to first in the span of a season. With a nice assist from the Dodgers who were stupid enough to take on all of Boston’s crap contracts. Like we’d ever be so lucky.

  41. icedcoffee says:

    It is amazing that two years ago, Jesus Montero was all the talk. Before that, it was Hughes and Chamberlain. Now here we are in 2013 and those three are mediocre at best – one impersonating ARod and PED’s – and the farm system is bare.

    There is obviously more that can be said about how terrible things have become since 2009 but the bottom line is that the future looks just like this season, more downs than ups, the ups being teasers, and “winning a championship” mantra the equivalent of Santa Claus being real.

    This season is a sign of more to come, not a hiccup.

  42. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Sorry, but we should have sold at the deadline.

    • Gonzo says:

      What if the Yanks bought some relief help and were 2-0 in the series?

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        What if rainbows shot out my ass and magically morphed into a unicorn? We’re dealing with what ACTUALLY happened here.

        • Gonzo says:

          So you can play the should of game but I can’t. The Yanks should have bought more. That was the point.

          • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

            Okay, I can get behind that too. I was offering an opinion, not playing the “what-if” game.

        • Gonzo says:

          P.S. I was consistent that they should have bought more at the deadline, FYI.

          • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

            Okay, I didn’t realize that that was what you were getting at. Yeah, that probably would have helped a lot too. We should have gone either ALL in or ALL out, instead of this shit. Now we’re fucked for this year and next year.

        • Gonzo says:

          P.S.S. You are all hopped up that they should have sold but you are are shooting rainbows out of your ass implying that they would have gotten anything worthwhile.

    • JGYank says:

      Bet you weren’t saying that a 3 days ago.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        I wasn’t saying anything at all three days ago. I DID say it at the deadline, and I WAS consistent the whole time and never thought we’d make it in. This series is a real wake-up call.

        • JGYank says:

          It is a wake up call. That’s because our team isn’t great and needed to get more pieces if we really wanted to contend. But who would have sold? Cano, Kuroda, and Grandy? They would only be rentals and would limited returns. Not to mention how volatile prospects can be. Either way we weren’t in a good position.

          • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

            Limited returns? WIth the second wild card, there are a LOT of fring teams. I think we could have gotten some pretty damn good prospects.

            • JGYank says:

              Even if did get a lot in return who knows what we would of got from those prospects. If they don’t make it, you just gave away 3 pretty good to MVP caliber players for pretty much nothing. That’s a big risk to take for prospects that usually don’t work out.

              • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

                Sure it’s a risk, but the returns could potentially be huge and unless they go all in they’re not doing shit this year anyway, and can quite possibly be worse by next year.

                • JGYank says:

                  It could be a huge return but usually won’t be. I disagreed with selling this year but it may have been a better option than doing nothing or even just acquiring Soriano.

    • Need Anybody that can actually get outs says:

      Or filled more holes.
      Go all in or get out.
      The half in shit just makes things worse.

    • icedcoffee says:

      The entire team and farm system – well except for Mo and Jeter.

  43. Kenny says:

    It would be nice to have Hal and Cash come down to meet the press after the game, instead of leaving it to Girardi and the players.

    • icedcoffee says:

      What would those two have said? they would have whined constantly about injuries, avoiding any accountability that they have screwed up the farm system, fielded a team fit for “Where Are They Now”.

  44. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Let this be a lesson: When you’re not good, you can still go on a winning streak. It doesn’t make you good.

  45. Anderson Silva says:

    Jeter is unplayable right now against righties.

    • Kenny says:

      Yeah, it could be he’s just going through “spring training.” It could also be those really bad injuries have washed him up, certainly as a fielder, where he’s looked pretty inert.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      He hasn’t hit them for years now. But he’s still JETER, so we’re not supposed to say anything.

  46. Pat D says:

    *goes to to check score*

    *sees score*

    *goes to YouTube*

    *posts this here*

    • JGYank says:

      great movie. Loved Uecker.

      • Pat D says:

        Yea, I personally think he’s funnier in 2 than in 1.

        “Cerrano back…he’ll need a rocket up his ass to catch this one.”

        “If that’s not Shaquille O’Neal in left that baby’s outta here!”

        “I used to hate Parkman when he was with the A’s. It’s amazing what a new uniform can do for a guy. (covers mic) He’s still a dick.”

        “It looks like Willie Hays is trying to hit Rick Vaughn. And why not? Everyone else in the league does!”

        • JGYank says:

          “I used to hate Parkman when he was with the A’s. It’s amazing what a new uniform can do for a guy. (covers mic) He’s still a dick.”

          Favorite part. He had some other funny ones too.

          • Pat D says:

            “So they’re going to walk Beck to get to Parkman. Obviously Taylor’s thinking……I don’t know what the hell he’s thinking!”

            “So in steps Jack Parkman, who’s hitting just over .900 against Vaughn.”

            “And Baker beats it out with a head first slide. I think I’ll wet my pants.”

            • JGYank says:

              Yeah he did a great job with that movie. Some more…

              [after Hayes calls a shot to left field and flies out to left for the second time]
              “You know, he could be pointing at the left fielder.”

              “Well fans, Roger Dorn has done a little redecorating around the ballpark. The outfield walls now look like the yellow pages. And any of you folks having trouble finding a good proctologist, might want to come down here and check out the area around the 375 foot sign. As for the game, we’ve got a real nailbiter here tonight. It’s a lot closer than that 11-2 score. ”

              “So, Hiroshi “Kamikaze” Tanaka, recently of the Tokyo Giants, knocks himself cold for the second time this week. Maybe in Japan, that’s actually better than catching the ball. Personally, I think he’s just trying to get out of the lineup.”

            • JGYank says:

              That’s all we got, one goddamn hit?”
              “You can’t say goddamn on the air.”
              “Don’t worry, nobody is listening anyway.”

              “Just a reminder, fans, comin’ up is our “Die-hard Night” here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Indians won a pennant.”

              “In case you haven’t noticed, and judging by the attendance you haven’t, the Indians have managed to win a few here and there, and are threatening to climb out of the cellar.”

              Think these were from the first ML but I’m not sure.

  47. Anderson Silva says:

    Just imagine if a Brian Cashman farm system could produce a player like Bogaerts. Crazy.

  48. Kenny says:

    Amazing, they’re putting a stake through the Y’s heart.

  49. Gonzo says:

    Hey everyone! Look on the bright side. Huff didn’t issue a single walk!

  50. MondoD says:

    OK, I’ve gotta ask – How is it the Sawx have drafted in the same relative position as the Yanks and they have all these guys and the Yanks have…relief pitchers (and not even good ones)? I mean we’re going to be looking at a left side of Middlebrooks & Bogarts for the next 6 years, plus Bradley, Lavarnway (who looks like he can club the ball if he plays everyday), and Lester Buccholz and Workman are all homegrown. And the Hobbit. And I read they are loaded with catchers AND pitchers in the minors. Not to mention Tampa’s been doing the exact same thing. I mean, with all their money don’t you think the Yanks would’ve addressed this deficiency in their scouting and player development long ago (or at least, like, in the last 5 years)?

    • Pat D says:

      Middlebrooks is not that good.

      Bogaerts and Bradley haven’t done anything yet. They’re still just prospects. Also, Bogaerts wasn’t drafted.

      Lavarnway sucks.

      Workman is nothing special at this point.

      Lester and Buchholz have been good, sure, but they’ve also been inconsistent and/or injury prone.

      Just because they have bodies doesn’t mean they’re great.

      • Anderson Silva says:

        MIddlebrooks, as flawed a baseball player as he is, is still a lot better than anything the Yankees’ farm system has produced in the last 3 years.

    • Anderson Silva says:

      Why wouldn’t the team with the most resources in all of baseball spend their money to bring in better baseball people for drafting and developing players? Hell, this money wouldn’t even count against the cap.

  51. yankees=warriors says:

    Huh, which five languages does Bogaerts speak? Does he have some kind of certificate to prove he actually masters all five of them?

  52. stuart a says:

    lunatics out in force today? not watching the game in Calif.

    they have a bunch of injuries in the pitching and it has come back to haunt them; pineda, nuno, phelps, have not pitched in 2 months or more..

    phelps is better then huff… i guess huff’s adjustment did not really pay off!!!

    jeter needs to get the ball out of the infield sometime soon,

  53. stuart a says:

    again eddard you were not even alive when george was a laughing stock. what 17 years of no playoffs. suspended by the league.

    get real…

  54. Eddard says:

    If George were alive to see this. He left a WS Champion in 09 and now they’ve become the laughing stock of baseball. It’s a shame how low this franchise has sunk and it starts at the top with Cashman. I’d let him and Girardi go and start fresh. Hal has shown he can make good moves with the Soriano trade, let’s just hope the team goes the direction of Hal and not Cashman going forward.

    • Pat D says:

      The laughing stock of baseball? Oh, come the fuck on. That’s ridiculous even for you.

      The Yankees could never be the laughing stock of baseball as long as the Marlins exist.

    • Lukaszek says:

      Ok bro, that is a bit too far to say they’re the “laughinstock” of baseball. Have you never heard of Astros? Or Marlins? Or Mariners?

  55. Widget says:

    The red sox have not played well this series, it just happens that the Yankees played worse. That crappy middle bullpen for the Red Sox can easily blow a six run lead and I expect that to happen.

  56. Eddard says:

    For years the Rays and Os were the laughing stocks of baseball so what did they do? Made changes at the top. Last year the Red Sox were the laughing stock and they made changes at the top. The Yankees need to do the same or you’ll see a lot more results like today.

    In over a decade they’ve only produced one everyday star in Cano and one quality starting pitcher in Pettitte. That tells you everything you need to know about Cashman.

  57. stuart a says:

    eddard with his usual nonsense. so nova sucks right?

    RObertson sukcs also. I can go on and on.

    your not worth the time

  58. dkiddsaddling says:

    this is really sad

    we’re clearly outclassed by the red sox, but we can still make the last rays series mean something

    keep fighting

  59. JGYank says:

    Shame we wasted all of these runs with our terrible pitching performance.

  60. Kevin says:

    Playing possum to get Pedroia out of the game.
    Classic Yankees.

  61. JGYank says:

    Funny how we are scoring all of these runs without any HRs while last year everyone was complaining we couldn’t score without them.

  62. Widget says:

    lets not act like cherrington is some super genius. the dodgers and Bud bailed out the red sox. If the Yankees tried to dump all those contracts Bud would have vetoed it.

    • stuart a says:

      he makes plenty of mistakes..

      i would not give ellsbury a long term deal btw. he is a injury waiting to happen. victorino got what 3 at $13 mill, talk to me in 100 games on that deal also…

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

      Bud had nothing to do with it. He had no reason to veto the trade.

  63. Anderson Silva says:

    needed one more big hit there. Unfortunate.

  64. Anderson Silva says:

    At least we get to see JR Murphy play.

  65. Mouse says:

    Marshall is looking good so far. Certainly better than anybody out of the bullpen these past few days.

  66. bill says:

    I’m watching on my phone…. why did they take out Jeter?

    • stuart a says:

      down by 7 the guy is 39, can’t stay healthy besides that no reason…

    • Pat D says:

      Because he basically sucks right now.

    • Anderson Silva says:

      Can’t hit RHP to save his life.

      • bill says:

        First he hit the rbi single then they pinch ran for him. Just wondering if he was injured

      • JGYank says:

        I disagree. He is probably below average vs RHP but not terrible. from 2010-2012 vs RHP: .273/.330/.345. Factor in a little decline and injuries and he is probably slightly worse than that line. This year is pretty much spring training for him and is too small of a SS.

        • Anderson Silva says:

          But wasn’t he terrible against righties in 2010-2011 before having that huge 2012? Maybe 2012 was the outlier.

          • JGYank says:

            Let me check…. 2012: .294/.346/.377

            2011: .277/.329/.338


            Looks like 2010 and 2012 are both outliers and 2011 is the most accurate at least IMO.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

              82 wRC+ vs. RHP in 2011. If that’s what he is, that’s not good enough to play vs. RHP given his defensive deficiencies (if they actually had a viable alternative)

              • JGYank says:

                I wasn’t taking defense into account. Was just saying he was below average but not terrible vs. RHP.

                • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

                  I agree.
                  But he’s been terrible so far against RHP this year. I’d certainly expect him to improve on that some, but it would make sense to at least drop him in the lineup vs. RHP (not that it will ever happen)

                  • JGYank says:

                    I agree on dropping him in the lineup vs. RHP but this year is spring training for him after not playing for so long and it’s too small of a sample size to judge his numbers. I’m not convinced the ankle/leg is 100% either. That should improve during the offseason a little. Basically might as well scrap 2013 off the back of his baseball card.

                  • JGYank says:

                    At this point, he would be a perfect fit for the DH vs LHP.

            • Cool Lester Smooth says:

              We don’t have his post-DL splits for 2011, though.

              • JGYank says:

                That’s fine. It doesn’t really matter since overall the numbers look pretty accurate compared to his skill at this point in his career.

            • JGYank says:

              2012 is a bigger outlier than 2010 but I still think he underperformed in 2010 especially considering he was coming off of a huge 09 and was younger than the other two years in comparison. So to me right now he is just below the overall 2010- 2012 line and that pretty much matches the 2011 line where he had a good second half and a terrible first half. I would expect a .265/.320/.325 line vs RHP going forward.

          • Cool Lester Smooth says:

            Well, it was more of a “huge second half of 2011 and 2012″

  67. Anderson Silva says:

    If you are trying to win and stay alive, why would they let overbay hit against a lefty? Girardi continues to struggle with the concept of platoon players.

  68. Cool Lester Smooth says:

    Ha, it’s been a while since I’ve seen a catcher hit the ball that hard.

  69. Anderson Silva says:

    Can they do it? Need a good AB from Cano and Sori here.

  70. Anderson Silva says:

    That was a terrible AB by Cano. Just awful.

  71. MAS says:

    Since wednesday Girardi’s bullpen management has been horrible and really has doomed this team. Today he should have gone to Marshall to start the 4th. After he have already said he was the long man. He seems to have pushed all the wrong bottoms since h decided to use CC to start the 8th on wednesday. Then he decided the last two days not to start Nova and Pettite and got burned. It is incredible how bad his decisión making has been.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

      When nobody in the bullpen can get outs, the bullpen management is going to look awful. There’s been a few head scratchers mixed in, but for the most part, it was only bad options available, and those bad options not doing the job.

    • ialien says:

      the monday morning QB’ing around here is off the hinges. How was he to know marshall was gonna pitch well & miller was not?

      how can joe push all the wrong buttons when he has no options to go to?

      some of you people are in LA LA land.

  72. Anderson Silva says:

    Hanging slider, pops it up. When they had a chance to come back, Soriano and Cano couldn’t deliver.

  73. Winter says:

    Only three times in history has a team lost tree consecutive games despite scoring at least 8 runs in each game.

    • RetroRob says:

      Was just about to post that question. 8,8 and 9 runs so far, 25 in three games, heading for three straight losses. When was the last time that happened?

      Horrible time for a bullpen collapse. This would normally been three straight wins, at worse two of three.


  74. JGYank says:

    Well somebody has to start the Napoli is on roids chants.

  75. MAS says:

    At least Girardi now knows that Marshall can be an option. I think both Cabral and Betances should be. Napoli has just Killed us. Please make him chase! He’s never had much plate discipline! Yesterday’s 3-2 pitch and thursday’s should have never been near the strike zone!

  76. JGYank says:

    Boston’s offense is just hot as fuck. They scored 20 off Detroit and we were only be able to limit them to around 10. At least we are scoring a lot and pitched better than Detroit in their last game against the RS.

  77. Gonzo says:

    One time, just one time.

  78. JGYank says:

    I’m just going to repost what I posted earlier.

    “Let’s be honest. With all the injuries and crappy performances (CC, Hughes, Joba, Ichiro, Wells, Hafner, all the scrubs) we shouldn’t have been a winning team this year. Think about all the positions we didn’t get production out of. It’s amazing we are in contention at all. Think about what could of been if we had fewer injuries and guys like CC did what they were capable of doing. Without all that we could have been a pretty good team contending for the division title. But the injuries crippled us and so did the guys who underachieved. The front office hurt us as well. Come on who on the team besides maybe Overbay, Kuroda, and Nova overachieved this year? No one. We had terrible luck and there isn’t much we could do about it.”

    Sums up how I feel about this team.

  79. 28 this year says:

    Well the O’s came back to win so that pretty much shuts the door on the Yankees barring a 19 game win streak.

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