Game 158: Stay Alive

(Mike Stobe/Getty)

(Mike Stobe/Getty)

One loss. That’s all it will take for the Yankees to be officially eliminated from the postseason. One win by the Indians would do the trick as well, but let’s ignore that for a second. The Yankees need to go a perfect 5-0 in their final five games to have a chance, and you know what? Wins haven’t exactly been easy to come by of late. New York has lost seven of their last ten games, including three of six games against the lowly Blue Jays and Giants. How about winning just one game before worrying about winning five? Can they do that? Maybe put up a fight for a full nine innings? That would be nice. Here’s the lineup that will face left-hander David Price:

  1. 3B Eduardo Nunez
  2. DH Alex Rodriguez
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. LF Alfonso Soriano
  5. RF Vernon Wells
  6. 1B Mark Reynolds
  7. CF Curtis Granderson
  8. SS Brendan Ryan
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is right-hander Phil Hughes, who is almost certainly making his final start as a Yankee. Remember when he was the best pitching prospect in baseball back in 2006? Neither do I.

Lovely weather in New York today and they won’t have any trouble getting the game in tonight. First pitch is scheduled for 7:05pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and ESPN nationally.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Kenny says:

    The fascination with hitting Granderson lower in the order is mind-boggling. Today, you can’t even make the argument that it splits up the righties…there’s three freaking righties in a row. Hit Granderson leadoff or fifth. Ridiculous.

  2. JGYank says:

    Playoffs? Come on. I lost track of the standings. I’m already trying to put 2013 in the rear view mirror. Might as well start the offseason early because we have a lot work to do to be competitive next year. Tough to watch this team right now.

  3. jim p says:

    Glad to see Ichiro, who hits lefties better than righties through his career, and especially this season, is sitting against a lefty again. Guess we’ve got to get Wells in the lineup somehow.

    Joe: Binder or Blinders?

    • Winter says:

      Both have been about league average against lefties. Remember that Wells hits lefties better too.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

      Ichiro last 608 PA vs. LHP (2011-2013): .678 OPS, 88 wRC+
      Wells in that timeframe vs. LHP (448 PA): .762 OPS, 109 wRC+

      It’s really not THAT big of a crime to sit him.

      • jim p says:

        But this year?

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

          Does it really matter?
          I think if you looked over just since the AS break, Wells might have better numbers than Ichiro.

          It just depends which SSS you want to use. The larger samples (last few years, or even career overall) favor Wells. The shorter sample (second half) might even favor Wells.
          Personally, I’d go with Ichiro out of the two, but frankly I have no confidence in either one right now. I’d rather see what Musty could do instead.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

        The better question would be: Who’s option C??

        • jim p says:

          I wish they’d both retire at the end of the season. But I fear management will just look for other done players to fill their spots. Seems trying out the kids is off the table.

        • NYPLATOONS says:

          Just grab someone outta the stand it’s the Yankee trend these days. Can’t really hurt I mean nobody else can hit over .200? I think I can get by with my eyes closed.

  4. Wheels says:

    Gonna miss baseball when the season ends.

  5. dkidd says:

    pronk sighting tonight?

  6. Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

    Just a lovely start to this game.

  7. adam says:

    TICKET OFFER AFTER BOBBLE BLUNDER: The Yankees announced that fans holding tickets for Mariano Rivera Bobblehead Night on September 24 may redeem their tickets for complimentary tickets to any regular-season game at Yankee Stadium during the 2014 season excluding Opening Day and Old-Timers’ Day (subject to availability).

  8. Dan says:

    The Yanks need to go into rebuilding mode this offseason. With or without $189, they are in a very precarious position for any sort of sustained success–even if they had no budget, this isn’t the type of offseason where they could turn the team around and win again like it was following ’08.

    They should give Qualuifying Offers where reasonable but let the players walk (including Cano). Trade who they can (Gardner, Soriano, Robertson). And completely restock the minor league system. They should bring in new development people, to give them an actual chance of real development.

    Then they will be way under $189 for the season, and get a protected pick in the 2015 draft (probably). They can then go hard on whoever is available in the next FA class, and the 2015 class, and hopefully be ready for sustained success in 2016. I know it’s a long way off and it means a few terrible years, but it gives them direction and the best chance at the same type of real, long term,and stable success that the team has had since 1995.

    The worst thing they can do is have a similar offseason to the last one–if they do that then they’re basically heading into Philly territory.

    • Bo Knows says:

      you know the thing about rebuilding is that it is never just one or two years, it’s usually 5+ years of inepititude. The Cubs still suck, Royals are mediocre, it’s taken 15 years for the O’s to stop being jokes, it’s taken the Pirates 20 years, the Mets are a mess, the list goes on and on

      • Dan says:

        That’s definitely a good point, but I think there are a few things that give this a decent chance of working, where the others didn’t.

        First, you’re completely tearing off the band aid. From the examples above, the cubs and mets are FINALLY committing to rebuilding after years of treading water. Treading water is the worst thing the Yanks could do.

        Second, they don’t (essentially) need all 25 men to come from the farm system, which differentiates them from the Royals, O’s and Pirates. They have the financial might where, when it’s time to make a push, they can sign 3+ big time Free Agents over a couple of seasons to make it happen. Remember, by the time this plan would pay off, Tex, ARod and CC would either be off the books or be about to come off the books. And they would have had a much smaller payroll for a couple of seasons. They could spend like they did in 2009 (and then some).

        • Bo Knows says:

          Your also overestimating the talent in the 2015 class, most of it is full of guys who are either old as dirt, or in the start of the decline and those that aren’t such as Kershaw, or Cueto, are going to be locked up well before then. You’ll be left with a roster not unlike the current setup.

          • Dan says:

            This isn’t a one FA class rebuild. 2015 has some solid SPs though, 1-2 of who could be good for a 5 year contract(think of when they got Cone/Wells/Key/etc. and yes I know some of those were trades).

            Kershaw (who I’d probably go 8 years on in a heartbeat), Bailey, Masterson, and Scherzer will all be FAs, at least a couple of them should hit the market and make immediate impact if the Yanks sign them and be good for the future of the team in executing this plan.

            • Bo Knows says:

              that’s putting way to much trust in FA nowadays, teams are flushed with money and players are very wanting of signing long term deals, the good/young players don’t get away anymore, we’ve seen it over the past few years how quickly supposed deep star laden classes dry up well before that season even arrives

    • NYPLATOONS says:

      They need an entire new outfield. I’m tired of watching two ticks hit in the lineup.

      Yankees need a catcher one that can maybe hit over .100

      Dunno about 2b and SS that’s up in the air.

      3b is another rodeo

      that’s 8 so far I say 2014 will be the year of super replacements?

  9. Wheels says:

    I hope that Cano’s new representation is somewhat reasonable during contract negotiations.

  10. Bo Knows says:

    they better be willing to pay Cano, otherwise this team is going to garbage next year

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      Unless it’s of the ARod variety, right? They shouldn’t do more than five maybe six years at a reasonable–if there is such a thing anymore–salary.

      • Bo Knows says:

        he’s not staying for a 5 year contract, I’m perfectly fine with him getting 7 years and have no issue with it as long as they make sure he’s the last. I’ve said it for the past year that 7 years 160 million will get it done.

  11. I owe the readers this:

    Mike Winters (No. 33 / HP-CC)Mike Winters is a commonly forgotten umpire and crew chief because he seems to be very outside of controversy….unless you ask Milton Bradley. If people remember, Bradley when he played for San Diego, was K’d by the now fired Brian Runge. Bradley was then asked by Runge next time up “Did you mean to throw that bat at me?” Bradley denied that and Runge claimed to him that Winters had said that. Bad enough, when Bradley reached first base, he took his lead and suddenly went ape on Winters, Bradley ended up hurting himself and tore his ACL. Winters was also suspended for the rest of the season and the postseason for that melee.

    Winters has a totally short fuse, being in the leagues since 1988, he also tends to have a high ejection rate. His strike zone is wide, and that will be on display. His strikeouts are higher than the average, but the walks are right about league average.

    Laz “Failaz” Diaz (No. 63 / 1B)If Yankee fans don’t remember this name. Remember it. Diaz suuuuuuccccccccccckkkkkkkkssss. Diaz has been in the league since 1995, however he is a patient umpire, contrary to his blown call department. Diaz was also infamously attacked in 2003 by a drunken White Sox fan. As for his strike zone, he is an extremely inconsistent umpire (blech). He has a 2.45 K/BB rate if that says anything. His walk rate is lower than Winters, but not by much.

    Mark “Vaghner” Wegner (No. 47 / 2B) Wegner + blown call = ejection. That would simplify Mark Wegner’s time in the majors since 1998. If you ask Hawk Harrelson, he’s bad, see the rant he went on last year after an ejection of Jose Quintana last year. Wegner also managed to eject Frank Thomas in the same game he hit his 500th HR, which is a total farce. As for Wegner’s strike zone, he misses calls all over hte map, and it should be expected, even though I don’t believe we are slated to see him anyway. He is considered a pitcher’s ump, but I am not sure what kind of stat you can believe with Wegner.

    Tim Timmons (No. 95 / 3B) We saw Tim Timmons last night at home plate. He is another member of the 1999 hiring club during the strike. Similar to Wegner and Winters, high ejection rate. High bad call rate as well. If you want an example of Timmons, just see his 2013 outrage with David Ortiz (aka, The Phone Incident). Timmons was the ump who called the serious borderline strike 2. As you might imagine, Timmons has a high strikeout rate (over 14%), however, he also has interestingly, a pretty hitter’s strike zone. Don’t piss him off, like the others.

    Not the most interesting crew in the world, but there’s not a lot you can say about them. One more of these, if there are open threads, I will put the ones for the playoff games. Should be an interesting lineup.

  12. leftylarry says:

    Off topic but does anyone know why promising RH starter Hayden Sharp retired healthy?

  13. Darren says:

    It’s a beautiful night here at the Stadium. Yankees tied it up, Cleveland is losing, we can do this

  14. Dewayne Staats and Brian Anderson expanding on the numerous flaws of the Wild Card system.

    I can listen to this.

  15. WhittakerWalt says:

    LOL this lineup.

  16. nycsportzfan says:

    Phil Hughes fucking sucks! My god!

    I love listening to Sutcliffe. He tells it like it is. He didn’t let Arod off the hook for that terrible strikeout where he didn’t even swing and just took juicy pitch right down broadway, and he didn’t let Hughes off the hook with that terrible pitch to Dejesus where he inexplicably threw it dead center just about.

  17. WhittakerWalt says:

    Hughes decided to get one last bed-shitting performance in for the home crowd.

  18. nycsportzfan says:

    Why did Nunez Hesitate when he turned around? Where did he think LOngoria was? He didn’t realize how hard that was hit?

  19. SDB says:

    Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!

    • number 21 says:

      And your team is?

      • SDB says:

        I’m a Yankees fan. Been posting on here a while.

        I’m raising a beer now to the fact that I will (hopefully, fingers crossed, please, please, please) never see Flyball Phil shit the bed like this again in pinstripes.

        I don’t care if they’re going for free agents, I don’t care if they give the rotation spot to a youngster like Warren or Nuno, no more Phil. Finally.

        • number 21 says:

          Agreed. I don’t think Hughes is coming back and most likely Joba isn’t either.

          • The Big City of Dreams says:

            Which would end the Generation Trey/Big 3 era. It started off with Joba pitching lights out in the 8th and Hughes reliving Clemens in the game against the Tribe.

            And it ends with one being a middle reliever and the other being what a 5 starter at best.

  20. WhittakerWalt says:

    Robot umps, please.

  21. stuart a says:

    imagine another year of watching ichiro and wells.

    i cannot think of 2 players i want to leave town more then those 2 overpriced pieces of crap……

    yep the play at 3rd did not matter with the joyce SF.

    umps are blind dopes….

  22. stuart a says:

    hafner, youkilis, hughes, joba, wells, ichiro, please all leave town…

  23. JGYank says:

    Bye Hughes. You ll never see pinstripes again…

  24. Wheels says:

    Nunez tagged that one.

  25. mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

    CF Gardner
    LF Soriano
    RF Almonte
    1st Tex
    2nd Cano
    3rd Nunez
    SS Jeter (Ryan Back-up)
    C Cervellie/Romine/JR

    DH Wells/ Suzuki/ A cheap last minute pick-up


    Bullpen much of same with Betances replacing Joba

    Your 2014 New York Yankees!

    Scary part is that I’m not too far off…

  26. WhittakerWalt says:

    Your “defense first” catcher, ladies and gents.

  27. SDB says:

    Give Warren a shot in the rotation next year, and move Huff into the long man role in ’14? He’s doing a heck of a job. Again.

    • stuart a says:

      warren has no chance of being good none.

      seriously wells is friggin awful in every way.

      why not play almonte over this friggin bum..

  28. Tom says:

    Chris Stewart sure framed the shit out of that fastball.

    But he at least has a good defensive reputation, to go with that tremendous bat.

    If the Yankees get eliminated tonight, maybe that will be the end of the Chris Stewart era too?(in addition to Hughes)

    • SDB says:

      Nope. He’s liked in the clubhouse and front office, CC’s preferred pitching to him (wasn’t he pretty much his personal catcher for half of 2012?), and at worst they’ll keep him as a backup to Romine or Gazoo.

      I wish we’d seen the last of him. But I suspect he’ll stick around, sigh.

  29. Steinbrenner's Ghost says:

    Question: MLB’s national television contract with ESPN/Fox — does each team receive an equal share of the revenue or do teams that actually appear on national tee vee like the Yankees receive more than teams that don’t like the Astros?

    • RBC says:

      The teams get an equal cut from the national TV contracts.

      The teams get to keep all of the revenue from their own local TV/radio broadcasts.

  30. number 21 says:

    Chris Stewart…

  31. Tom says:

    Vernon Wells:
    29 poups
    27 extra base hits

    Is that bad? I think that’s bad, is that bad?

    They need to cut his ass loose too… I don’t care if he’s “free” next year toward the luxury cap. I’d rather see Zoilo Almonte struggle as a 4th OF then watch Wells.

    Well at least he still adds value with his glove in RF.

  32. SDB says:


    Sterling and Waldman are talking about how Nix is the perfect build for a utility guy, and how he should be on any team.

    Kill me now.

  33. stuart a says:

    chris stewart is lso hitting 209.

    look at the batting averages of the lineup tonight….

    aroid is in the 240′s… sure he is better then the total crap they played at 3b, he is just kinda awful. the guy cannot stay on the field after what 30 games….they need him to be suspended at least 100 games…

  34. WhittakerWalt says:

    Oooh, a Mel Allen reference from Papa Yankee. So timely.

  35. Mike B. says:

    Disclosure: when I watch the Yanks on MLB Extra Innings, I almost always watch the opposing team’s telecast.

    Full Disclosure: I have always despised Michael Kay. Yuck!

    Comment: So, Stewart lets another ball get passed him and Kay says “Now I know Chris Stewart is a good defensive catcher…..”

    Conclusion: I despise Michael Kay.

    Postscript: Stewart is really bad. LOL

  36. Mike B. says:

    I’ve always thought Longoria is a douche. Am I wrong?

  37. Mike B. says:

    Man, they are teeing off on us!

  38. ClayDavis says:

    You know who is better than Vernon Wells? Nick Swisher. Chris Stewart? Russell Martin.

    Forgive me if I’m wrong but Huff may be a starter next year? Haha

  39. Darren says:

    Well, I hate to say it, but our playoff hopes just took a big hit. But we can still do it. #bitterend

  40. WhittakerWalt says:

    “Suzyn isn’t it amazing? David Huff has pitched GREAT in long relief! Not good, GREAT!”

    David Huff then promptly gives up a 4-spot.

  41. Tom says:

    Is it Joba time yet?

    Doesn’t Joe have to bookend Phil’s (hopefully) last start with the Yankees, with Joba’s (hopefully) last appearance with the Yankees. It would somehow seem appropriate.

  42. Widget says:

    Why didn’t we go after David Dejesus?

  43. Darren says:

    I’d go ten years, $380 million for Robbie

  44. dkiddpathetic skiff says:

    tomorrow night tampa will be leading 10-1 after 8 and they’ll crank up “enter sandman” and mo will jog in and it will be depressing and pathetic


  45. Pasta says:

    First off season move for the yankees
    Throw Chris Stewart into a live Volcano.

  46. ClayDavis says:

    Watch him end the season under .200

    • Tom says:

      200 pass balls? He could probably finish under that.

      If you meant average, he pretty much just needs to maintain his post allstar break performance

      .164/.263/.224 (good for a wRC+ of 37!)

  47. Dale Mohorcic says:

    I’ll admit that the past 18 years have spoiled me.

    I’ve watched a whole season of worse:

    Actually, a few whole seasons of worse:

  48. Bo Knows says:

    David Price’s stuff is a lot different than in the past announcer guy. He was a 95-98 guy, he’s now 91-94 for the most part

  49. Eddard says:

    This is a Yankee ballclub that has given up on its manager. It has given up on its general manager. Guys like Eduardo Nuney are the only ones trying anymore and people want to get rid of him. We don’t need Eduardo Nuney they say, we have Brendan Ryan. The manager, GM, and CC need to go this offseason and the team needs to start fresh in 2014 or it will be stuck in mediocrity for the next 5-10 years.

  50. Cuso says:

    Yeah that was one hell of an effort right there.

  51. Al says:

    This team has officially mailed it in and quit

  52. Pasta says:


  53. Mike B. says:

    And The Gipper!

  54. Mike B. says:

    Did I say “The Gipper”?

  55. Pasta says:


  56. Pasta says:

    Girardi should put Mo in cf for the ninth.

  57. JGYank says:

    This is a pretty bad team for a “contender” if you can even still call it that. Negative run differential, old players, crappy inconsistent pitching, only a few talented position players.

    As for the offseason, we have Cano, Kuroda, Grandy, Joba, Hughes, Logan (not sure), and some maybe some others headed for free agency. QO to Cano, Kuroda, Grandy. Sign Cano only for the right price which in my mind is under $170M for a max of 7 years. No more than $25 per year. Keep Kuroda and maybe Grandy if he doesn’t ask for too much. Keep Logan or go after another lefty FA. Cabral won’t cut it. Cut Joba and Hughes. Rotation: CC, Nova, Kuroda, Pineda, ? (possibly Phelps or FA). Warren is the long man. Clairborne stays and get another reliever. For the lineup try to keep Ryan as back up and find an Eric Chavez type of guy for insurance at 3B since Arod has the suspension looming and is breaking down. Cut Youk and Hafner. Nunez goes to AAA or becomes the utility guy. Try to keep Grandy to get Wells off the team and Ichiro becomes the 4th outfielder. DFA Wells or something since his salary is low. Cut Stewart and go with either Cervelli/Romine with Murphy getting a shot in the spring or get outside C like McCann. Tex stays at first. What do you guys think?

    Found this while planning.

  58. Pasta says:

    Throw at longoria

  59. Pasta says:

    Threw a meatball.

  60. Justsayin says:

    189 not happening. The front office will lose more $ in ticket sales and concessions than they will paying the lux tax. Injuries are one thing but this team has been a straight disaster in these last few weeks when they had many chances to get back in this. Time to reload and put a contender back on the field for next year. Trim the fat (sorry Joba) get rested and healthy and win one for the Caps last year

    • Chris says:

      I’m not quite sure why people want to spend more than 189 just because…as if that’s some guarantee of being decent. Good free agents don’t usually hit the market anymore. And isn’t that what got them into this in the first place? I would hate to see this team load up on the type of free agents that come around now. Everyone will just be bitching about it next year when Lincecum still sucks..I can hear it now, “Cashman is the worst, he should have known Timmy has sucked for 2 years. He needs to go.”

      • Justsayin says:

        You’re right about high price free agents maybe not working out…enough evidence around the league to prove that. I was more just speaking to not letting that number be a hard line in the sand and keeping them from making moves that make sense like re signing Cano and improving at other skill positions.

        • Chris says:

          I have no clue what they can do for next year. To me, they are dicked. Hope Teix has a pre-yankees year. Hope Soriano can maintain his power. CC? Kidnap Ichiro. I really don’t know. I can’t wait to watch the shit-show though.

  61. Pasta says:

    The legend of sleepy yankee stadium next year if they dont rebuild.

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