Yankees get depantsed by Red Sox in third straight loss

Saturday Night Open Thread
Jeter day-to-day with soreness in left ankle

Source: FanGraphs

The Yankees have let the Red Sox come into their building and just about push them out of the playoff picture this weekend. New York’s skeleton crew pitching staff stood no chance against a Boston lineup that was still ridiculously deep and dangerous even though like, three regulars were resting. The Sawx have a better offense, a better rotation, a better bullpen, a better bench, better young players, better veterans, better pretty much everything. Except facial hair. They are a truly ugly team. Anyway, let’s recap the 13-9 shellacking:

  • Huffed Out: So it turns out three long relief appearances against a last place teams wasn’t a sign David Huff had turned a corner. The Red Sox pounded the left-hander for nine runs on eight hits (only two singles) in just 3.2 innings on Saturday, which is only slightly worse than what he had been doing for the Indians in recent years. Amazing they a) managed to replace Phil Hughes with an even worse pitcher, and b) actually started Huff in a very important September game against a division rival.
  • Generic White Guys: Overall, three Yankees pitchers threw 174 total pitches, allowed 13 runs on 14 hits, and got only ten and swings and misses. The just called up Jim Miller was terrible, allowing three runs in 1.1 innings. Brett Marshall spared the rest of the injured riddled staff by allowing one run — the obligatory Mike Napoli homer, of course — in 4.1 innings. He’s been the pitching bright spot in this series, sadly.
  • Nine Runs Wasn’t Enough: For the first time in AL history (!), a team scored at least eight runs in three straight games and lost all three. That team was the Yankees. They scored nine runs on Saturday, including four in the sixth against a tired John Lackey. Lyle Overbay (one-run single), Robinson Cano (one-run single), Ichiro Suzuki (one-run double), Brett Gardner (two-run double), Derek Jeter (one-run single), Alfonso Soriano (one-run single), and Mark Reynolds (two-run double) did the damage. New York was down nine runs before the offense did anything meaningful. Too little, too late.
  • Leftovers: The Yankees have allowed at least nine runs in three straight games for the first time since June 2002, when all three of those games were played in Coors Field … Gardner was the best offensive performer of the day, going 2-for-3 with a walk … the Yankees actually went 7-for-18 (.389) with runners in scoring position and scored five of their nine runs with two outs … Curtis Granderson laid down a bunt in an effort to beat the shift with a man on and nobody out in the second inning. That’s silly. Swing the damn bat that early in the game.

MLB.com has the box score and video highlights, FanGraphs the other stats, and ESPN the standings. The Yankees are now two back of the Orioles in the loss column and could be two back of the Indians as well if they beat the Mets. Depending on the late game, New York will either be three back (Rays lose) or four back (Rays win) of the second wildcard spot with 20 games to play. Cool Standings has their playoff odds at 7.4%. Running out of time (and pitchers). Hiroki Kuroda and Jon Lester is Sunday afternoon’s pitching matchup. Check out RAB Tickets if you want to catch the game live.

Saturday Night Open Thread
Jeter day-to-day with soreness in left ankle
  • dan

    stick a fork in them, soooo done.

  • http://www.thewebsitemarketingagency.com Geno

    I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused.

    • vicki

      made me smile.

  • FIPster Doofus

    Get healthy, make some decent offseason moves instead of only adding scrapheap bullshit, try again next year.

    • radnom

      They will still have last offseason’s scrapheap bullshit next year (Ichiro and Wells), but there will undoubtably be more joining them.

      They are faced with retaining/replacing arguably the best offensive and pitcher free agents in the entire AL in Cano and Kuroda while the budget is to be significantly lowered.

  • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

    It was implied, but I’m surprised Mike didn’t make a comment about the 20-11 record the Red Sox now have in the last 31 meetings at Yankee Stadium.

    This is the second time in three years the Red Sox have won at least seven games at Yankee Stadium in a single season. Wrap your damned heads around that.

    • Kevin

      Part of that can be made to the short porch. Yesterday’s grand slam would have been an out at any other ball park.
      But I have to agree with you. I hate how time and time again,the Red Sox own us in our own park.

      • forensic

        I disagree. First, both teams are playing in the same park and the Yankees can hit those too. Second, the Red Sox are actually built for their park, which often includes guys whose swing goes toward LF, not RF which is where YS’s porch is. The Yankees are more built for their own park and still lose these games.

        • JGYank

          Agree. That’s mostly what home field advantage is from building the team according to home park.

      • Lukaszek

        I think it’s because of bad luck. Subtract one foot from Napoli’s grand slam, and add one foot to Robinson Cano’s drive, and the Yankees’ record might look very different. It’s just shitty luck this series

        • trr

          It’s more than just luck, Luka.
          The Red Sox are simply the better team.

  • LarryM Fl

    From top to bottom the Red Sox have an excellent team. There hitting is marvelous. There minor league guys are ready to help. They were all over the field today. Shortstop, CF and on the mound, this weekend should bring to Cashman and company the real level of the Yankee organization. When you score 25 runs in three games and loss all three.

    They just pounded our pitching staff. They are so deep and with chips to trade. Joba and Hughes our former young guys with the highly touted potential are not even wanted by other teams. Two organizations with little or nothing in common.

    Sad,just sad. Huff was DFA three times and the Yankees start him in a WC race game. He was worse than Hughes. Is that possible?

    I ‘m sorry for rambling but if Hal and Hank thought we had a problem with development. It has been confirmed.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      Yea development has been an issue for yrs. The fall of Joba and Hughes is frustrating.

    • Kosmo

      I don´t buy into the ´´problem of development“ narrative. Austin Jackson, Mark Melancon, Clippard, Axford, IPK , Quintana and probably others I can´t think of are excellent examples of players NY let go of.
      Furthermore the Yanks are generally not making the best of their low drafting order.
      Maybe the likes of Hughes and Joba are just not that good to begin with. Were they supposed to be great because the early returns suggested that they were ?

      • will

        That’s the problem. The guys you named are relievers (except for Jackson and Quintana) and not high impact players.

  • Will

    They’re not done, but right now, the Orioles, Indians, and Rays just look like better teams. Not to mention they’re behind them all in the standings.

  • JCK

    Lost in all this, not that it matters to the Yankees, is that the Red Sox pitching hasn’t been much better.

    They have a prolific offense with no easy outs, but it’s hard to see them get by a team in the playoffs that actually as a big league rotation if they keep giving up 8+ runs/game.

  • edmond

    I love to say September isn’t over, but from what I saw this past 3 games, it would be an incredible mountain to climb! We may still have a remote shot at the playoff picture. We still play the Orioles and the Rays, but honestly I am starting to think of next year! Such a sad weekend!

    • Kenny

      The problem is that the Os and Rays are also better than the Yankees.

      • trr

        Sadly, I must agree

  • forensic

    So, FOX was initially blacking me out with Dodgers-Reds on the guide, then last night they changed the guide to our game and for some reason I was actually kind of happy that I can watch a game, then the guide didn’t change and they showed the Dodgers anyway. Suffice it to say, I’m perfectly fine having not seen this game…

    • JCK

      The only think worse than watching that game, was having to watch it with Tim McCarver at the mic.

      (Actually, I live in New England… having to watch these games on NESN is just as bad.)

  • David N

    Two months ago, if you’d told me that the Yankees would put up at least 8 runs in three straight games, I wouldn’t have believed it. And if you’d told me they’d lose all three games, I’d have tried to commit you to an asylum. Yet here we are – we now have an offense, yet the pitching has gone. And it sucks.

  • MIke

    I had a feeling there was going to be a sweep. I just didn’t think it would be us.

  • Nathan

    What a difference a year or two makes. They went from awful to pretty damned good pretty quickly.

    • Kevin

      It helps when they’re allowed to basically trade away all of their mistakes.

      • Kenny

        Thing is they did it. They proved they were tougher and smarter.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Go root for them, then.

          • radnom

            You don’t have to bend facts through Yankee colored glasses to be a “true” fan. If thats your thing, thats cool, but some of us prefer to live in the real world and speak freely about it.

            • FIPster Doofus

              Yeah, I’m pretty sure saying the Red Sox are a better-run team than the Yankees – which they are – doesn’t mean Kenny should have to root for another team. Talk about ridiculous.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Bitch, please. You don’t get to choose what the real world looks like.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Let me tell you what the “real world” is. The real world is one in which the Boston Red Sox sucked fucking ass in 2012 worse than anything you’ve seen this year from the Yankees in the past 20 years, and sucked BEFORE an completely unprecedented trade with the Dodgers, which was eighty times more about the Dodgers’ crazy desire to take on salary after years of being more about the reality TV fodder of their own ownership than about baseball, than it was about the Boston Red Sox. They reinvested in risky role players, and the risk has paid off for them…..this year. You willing to roll the dice again on Napoli and Victorino again next year?

              The real world is one in which you acknowledge that the Yankees have made mistakes, have looked like champions and doormats at various times throughout the season, and still have more of a chance than any of the so-called fans that show up after losses on here, who seemingly can’t wait to shout about how bad the team is more than actually give off a sense of hope, thought they had. They were supposed to be dead by May, remember? Or was it April?

              The real world isn’t one in which whiners and spoiled asses who are only fans because they can’t even remember 1991 because they were sucking on mommy’s titty get to tell others what’s real and what’s not, flapjack.

              This is my world. You’re just a squirrel trying to get a nut. Now get up outta here. Don’t touch that coat!

              Y’all don’t even know what I’m quoting there.

              Two days, two rants. I’m on a roll.

              • Silvio

                Dumb twerp, ranting about what’s real and then quoting tacky pop songs.

              • Pat D

                But I really, really need that nut!

          • FIPster Doofus


          • Silvio

            He doesn’t have to go root for them.
            All he has to do is be correct.
            And he is.

            You’re hysterical. Take a pill.

            • Pat D

              He’s correct about the Red Sox being “tougher” and “smarter?”

              Try “incredibly fortunate” in place of “smarter.” As for “tougher,” well that’s just complete and utter nonsense, so……no, he’s not correct. He just has an opinion.

              • Silvio

                Sure he has an opinion, but the thing is that it’s a CORRECT opinion. Your own opinion (“incredibly fortunate”) is just sour grapes.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  The correct opinion my ass.

                  Come back tomorrow, son. Maybe you’ll have learned something by then.

                • Pat D

                  An opinion by definition cannot be correct.

                  Please don’t go inventing your own definitions for commonly used words.

              • Steve

                And there’s no room for opinions on this site other than “Win or lose you have to be PROUD of this team.” Spare me.

                • Pat D

                  Please explain to me where the fuck I said or even implied that.

                  Oh, that’s right, I didn’t. Try again, troll.

        • Get Phelps Up

          “Tougher and smarter” = luckier.

          They were only able to clear all that payroll because they just happened to be going through a down year at a time where the Dodgers were really itching to spend some cash. You don’t have to be some mastermind GM to know that kind of trade would be a no-brainer. If the Yankees or Angels or Phillies or any other team was in the same situation, I’m sure they’d all do the same thing. Bring up the report that they called the Yankees about CC and Tex all you want but it would have been extremely dumb to trade those guys when the Yankees were a first place team that had a legit shot at at World Series, irregardless of how much it would help in the future.

          And besides that, I’m not sure how much trading those guys really helped them this year really, considering that both Crawford and AGon have both had very nice years in LA. The biggest thing that’s helped them is the ridiculous production they’ve gotten from every. single. one. of these career journeymen or role players. I mean who the hell could have expected this kind of production from Carp AND Nava AND Iglesias AND Lackey AND Uehara and on and on and on…and Victorino has pretty much turned into Willie Mays since dropping switch hitting. Really the only thing that’s gone wrong for them all season is Buccholz getting hurt and Hanrahan flaming out.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Thank you, you non-realist.

          • JGYank

            Speaking of dropping switch hitting, should Tex consider it? We all know he bats better from the right side but only because of the shift. He also hits for more power from the left side from the short porch.

  • Jay

    I never thought I’d see the day when the Yankee front office went into a season not trying to get the best or buy the best. How could we have a catching duo of Stewart and Romine and when all the infielders went down especially shortstop how the Yankees were satisfied with scrap heap junk. The Yankees showed some life and there was some possibility that they might even a small percentage make the playoffs but the last 3 games. Give me a break!

    • Kenny

      “I never thought I’d see the day when the Yankee front office went into a season not trying to get the best or buy the best.”

      We ain’t seen nothin yet, I’m afraid.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      So I guess you were born after ’93, then?

  • Kevin

    The last three games showed our flaws..mainly our pitching and bullpen is shot.
    And I’m sorry,our team has shown we can beat up on weak pitching..but the stronger pitching we’d face in the post season..I have my doubts.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning

      Aren’t the Red Sox pitchers going to be pitching in the postseason?
      The Yankees aren’t having much trouble with them.

      • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

        You wanna know what’s pretty disgusting right about now?

        The Red Sox just went through a stretch where they allowed, like, three runs or fewer in 13 of 14 games, or whatever. Their offense wasn’t raking, but their pitching stepped up.

        Now, they’ve given 25 runs in the space of three games, and their offense has scored 33 runs instead. The same damn thing happened when they won three of four in Seattle despite giving up 30 runs in the four games.

        Somehow, they manage to line up when the pitching sucks and the hitting sucks, so that the other side of the ball picks up the slack. Are you freaking kidding me?

    • WhittakerWalt

      Are you insane? We scored 25 runs! That should be enough runs to win every time.

      • Robinson Tilapia


  • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

    By the way, look who is ONCE AGAIN losing right now?

  • JGYank

    Problem is this team never has fired on all cylinders. First half offense on dl and sucked. Second half offense returns but the pitching is out of gas. The Rays are choking too thankfully but now the Os and Cleveland have pulled ahead of us. The sad thing is if we pitched ok this series we could of swept. This team has had way too many games/series where we underperformed or just choked like this one. The WS sweep comes to mind and the pen meltdown against the Os. Needed to win those. We would be ahead of the Rays if we won just a few more but this team is just too inconsistent.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Yeah, it’s really unfortunate to see what looks to be so many of the pitchers who held this team up running out of gas at a time when the offense FINALLY looks like one that is never out of any game.

      There’s a brief window for all of this to come together. We shall see.

      • JGYank

        Yeah another problem is we have sucked against our division besides the Blue Jays. Those are must win games and we have played poorly against the 3 other teams we are competing against. We needed to bolster this team more at the deadline and in August. Soriano just isn’t enough.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    A demoralizing three games after a nice run.

    It’s always been a long shot. The long shot will still be there when this is over. Unlike some commenting here, my hope is that this team actually can dust itself off and keep moving. The pitching does greatly concern me right now. The bullpen A team needs to be firing on all cylinders, and its barely there right now. Not that this mattered today. Offense is clicking, which is a silver lining.

    Of course, I say this because, unlike yesterday, where I was a few feet away from the bullshit, I was far away from a TV between the hours of 1 and 4 today. I’m sure the Huff and Miller show was absolutely agonizing. How many “start teh Marshall” calls were there during the game thread.

    • YankeeFan

      Can’t believe Tampa Bay is about to lose again, they have been brutal and have kept the Yankees in this race. I agree it is a longshot but if the score holds in Seattle, Yanks remain only 3 games out. I understand Cleveland and Baltimore are ahead of them but Yankees can take care of business against the O’s. Surprisingly, Cleveland appears to be the biggest concern considering they are starting to get on a nice roll and have a really easy schedule coming up.

      Plain and simple, they have to come to the ballpark tomorrow, have the same approach against Lester as they have had the last three games, and hopefully Kuroda can have a bounce back.

      They have to put the last three behind them and realize how lucky they are to still be in contention and that these next 5 will determine whether the final couple of weeks will be a formality or a race. They MUST go 4-1 next 5 to have a chance in my opinion and hope Boston can do what they did to them to Tampa.

    • YankeeFan

      And personally I would start Marshall last game vs. the Orioles. I’m disappointed that Girardi seems to have immediately ruled that out. I understand he had a poor season in Triple-A but he is a legitimate arm that has potential to stick. The biggest concern is the HR ball though he only gave up 2 in his last 50 innings at Scranton. The other option is Hughes who has terrible numbers vs. the O’s and is even more HR prone.

      At least in Marshall, he, like I said, is a legitimate arm, may embellish the opportunity, and has a future with the club. I think Hughes is mentally checked out and ready to move on.

    • WhittakerWalt

      We can still pull it off, and wouldn’t that be a glorious story? It’s going to come down to the final few games of the season, and if we win our games we’re in. Why not go along for the ride? I’d much rather do that than pull a “SEASON OVER” a la Greg.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        No. We’re not as tough and smart and baseball-y as the Red Sox.

        • Silvio

          Finally gets something right.

          • Trisha True Sox Fan

            Takes him a few shots at it.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I was being sarcastic, idiot.

            • Kenny

              It’s us who were being sarcastic, you jackass! Man but you’re dumb.

              • Silvio

                You’re right, but speak for yourself.

              • Pat D

                No you weren’t.

        • WhittakerWalt

          Also not nearly beard-y enough.

  • Pat D

    Since I mentioned it in the game thread……also how I feel about the team right now. Anything that appears good is just a trick of the light.


    • trr

      Pat, Big props for digging out that old, but still blistering rocker!

      • Pat D

        Oh, yea. Awesome song.

  • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

    All of a sudden, the Red Sox have an 8.5 game lead in the East, their magic number is 12, they’re 30 games over .500, and are running away with the best record in the AL.

    What the hell is going on?

    • adeelmd

      FO decided that luxury tax was more important than winning games, that’s what happened. So many games this year, I have felt we were one or two players short. Yeah there have been injuries, but injuries happen every year.

      These three games in particular, one decent relief pitcher and we win all three.

      • ialien

        what really kills me is that, with the payroll cap in place, they decided to buy instead of sell at the deadline & attempt to make the playoffs. But they had too many holes all season long to take seriously as a playoff team. so they are only delaying the inevitable rebuild with this short sighted attitude. You wanna chase the playoffs, you spend. you dont hurt the team in order to increase hals profit margin in 2015.

      • JGYank

        This year this team hasn’t had just typical injuries. We’ve had most of our lineup out for like half the year. Several of the guys go down multiple times (Jeter, Grandy, Tex). Then sometimes even the replacements got injured (Nunez, Youk, Cruz, Hafner). Then down the stretch when our pitchers are gassed all the pitching depth goes on the DL (Phelps, Pineda, Nuno). Tex Youk Hafner Pineda are still on the DL and suddenly Drob Logan and Kelley aren’t healthy either. Jeter was just taken out. Almonte is down. Nova, Mustelier, and Cabral were down. Cano and Grandy get HBP constantly. Come on. That’s not normal injuries at all.

    • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

      It’s God setting us up.

      They are going to get the wild card then win the sudden death game and finally win the best of 5 in 5 in Fenway.

      • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

        I really don’t know which would be better.

        The Red Sox getting swept out of the ALDS despite being the #1 AL seed, or the Red Sox losing Game 5 at home in excruciating fashion.

        If the Yankees were the ones doing it, regardless, even better.

        • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

          “Red Sox losing Game 5 at home in excruciating fashion.”

          This is going to happen and it’s going to be the Yankees and A-Rod who are going to do it excruciating enough.

          • I’m a looser baby so why don’t you kill me?

            I do agree that ARod is going to piss in some pretty important bowls of Cheerios before this season is over…

        • Get Phelps Up

          Them getting swept would be way better so we can still gloat that they haven’t won a plyoff game since 2008.

          • Get Phelps Up


  • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)


    But with all that the Yankees are still 2.5 games out of spot.

    So tomorrow starts a new week and with the week I just had I’m owed a Yankees win, Rays lost and a football Giants win.

    Please merciful God I had enough.

    • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

      I can get on board with this.

      Bucs get to play the Jets, so they have no excuse not to win. Giants play the Cowboys in Dallas, and that has been the football equivalent to the Yankees/Red Sox Yankee Stadium games in recent years. G-Men 4-0 at the new Cowboys Stadium.

      Let’s go.

    • Mike

      Don’t forget the Jets.

  • Kosmo

    stuck outside of Mobile with the RAB again.

    • trr


  • Mick taylor

    The problem with this team is there is no leadership. These young pitchers look scared of the sox. They need a veteran to remind them what uniform they are wearing. Arod gets hit by dumpster but the yanks take no retribution . The players do not act like they care if they lose these games . I find it astounding that no Yankee pitcher in 10 years has ever hit David Ortiz. Do you really believe that if the yanks were hitting home runs like the sox were the last 2 games the sox pitchers would not dust someone? There is no leadership. Jeter is one of the greatest players ever but is he a leader to fire these guys up? Cano is a joke. He probably went to dinner after yesterday’s loss with steroid needle in big poopie. How would Paul o’neil react to these losses if he were on the team? How about at least moving Napoli off the plate. How about these yanks showing that they care as much about losing as making their millions . Jorge posada I miss you.

  • fred robbins

    This team is a perfect example of what Yankee ownership deserves, not what the fans deserve. How can a team honestly expect to compete without a shortstop, 3rd baseman or catcher to name just a few positions the Yankees are in desperate need of fixing?

    It seems like they think Jeter is their shortstop of the future, unless behind closed doors there is actually someone with a brain and guts saying that Jeter has to be DH only and that is only if Jeter himself selfishly wants to come back next year. He is through as a shortstop. Things happen fast and even though he hit like a champ last year, his legs are gone and he can only go one step left or right– Look around both leagues and we all see shortstops that are young, fast, talented and signed already.
    The Yankees have no pitching going into next year, and no real relief pitching.
    Logan has sucked for a long time, along with the rest. I know his numbers look good- but he comes in and gives up the previous guys runners. He hits 95 but instead throws a slow curve to lefties and then watches the ball sail out of the park.

    If this Yankee ownership wanted fans and wanted a team for the future, they would have made those moves, but instead, the moves they Did make, show you what kind of team they really wanted…. old name players who maybe had a lucky streak left in them.

    The best thing would be for these Yankees to lose the rest of their games, get ride of Joe G and Cashman and see if they can do what Boston did.

    and as an aside– someone mentioned the Commissioner’s office should do something about Boston Players and their Beards…. I agree— this is the most disgusting, disgraceful looking team I have ever seen and it is a mockery to the game

    • The Other Sam

      If they don’t make the postseason this year it will be because the decisions in the offseason were based on the $189, not what was smart/effective.

      And because sitting around waiting for injured players to return was next to useless. We all know where the buck stops. It’s not enough to say, ‘it’s the injuries’ and leave it at that.

      • kenthadley

        Ditto. Where’s Hal? Who’s holding Cashman accountable for the “ready” talent brought up this year. He knew he had an old team years ago, and demanded control of the entire organization 7 years ago. Well he got it….and this year is when his lack of organizational success has brought the team down. It really doesn’t take a top notch GM to trade for Vernon Wells, Soriano, and sign a bunch of DFA’s. If you throw enough garbage at the wall, some of it sticks. Is Cashman going to claim success because Overbay didn’t stink, or Soriano hit? He’s a mediocre GM and his effort has made the Yanks mediocre….he could GM for Orioles, Indians, etc. They would be happy to be “competitive”. Don’t know if he could do it at under 200mil though. Somebody needs to hold his feet to the fire on this. Unless he has some “Dave Stewart” photos of Hal.

        • Kenny

          “Ditto. Where’s Hal?”


    • jmpnyy

      The trailer trash look is rivaling the NBA human billboard tat look.

  • Rizi Walnutz

    All I’ve seen is a Red Sox team that will fold like a wet nappy in the face of good pitching, and Red Sox pitching that ain’t fooling anybody. Beating up the Yankees means nothing at this point, unfortunately. Like the Yanks beating up the White Sox.

    • kenthadley

      Just like the 2012 Yankees.

    • Mike

      I agree. Lets see them beat the Tigers in a series first…nevermind.

  • jmpnyy

    Girardi screwed up his rotation by using CC on Wednesday. Should have used Huff against the weaker team and rolled the dice with CC, Nova, Pettite, Kuroda. The BP is a disaster and overworked. Hey why didnt they use Betances and Cabral? Kaboom Logan better not be back next year. Hughes isnt going to become 2009 BP Phil overnight. Bard should have also been picked up on waivers and tried as a reliever. The guy has a great arm and is worth a gamble.

  • Frank

    RS own CC. They would have bitch slapped him as well.

  • entonces

    Forgive me if someone else has already made this point — I simply couldn’t read thru all the 93 comments of what seemed like non-stop pissing and moaning. Unfortunate that Yanks lost three straight, but to me there was more bad luck to this than skills mismatch. Several bullpen arms came up sore at same time. Huff should never have been allowed to pitch. (Even a sub-mediocre Hughes is a much better choice). And Mo essentially blew a game he could easily have saved.

    Yanks have four more games with vaunted Bosox. I fully expect them to win three (and if they get the breaks, four) of these games. May not be enough to get them into playoffs, but this team, if reasonably healthy, would be right up there in standings now.

    As to future, that’s another story. Rebuild must start soon. And despite trollish observations to the contrary, Yanks have talent in system to build new core. Will take some time and patience, though.

  • ruralbob

    Amazing how Yankee grief brings out the trolls.

  • entonces

    And a word on Hal Steinbrenner:

    At some point this young man is going to have to understand that his final judgment will not come from the Forbes 400.

    Nobody will ever care if he managed to eke out a profit three years running. His legacy is totally dependent on the survival and good fortune of the premium sports brand he was fortunate enough to inherit. If the Yankees fail or fall under his leadership, he will be remembered as one of the most incompetent managers of this era. More so, because he inherited a brand that was a prime example of success through investment. Bean counting will never bring Hal Steinbrenner favorable recognition.