Monday Night Open Thread

Gonzales: Cubs have made it clear they will top Yanks' offer to Girardi
What Went Right: One-Run Games

I always try to dig up some kinda neat video for the open thread, preferably a memorable Yankees moment. Occasionally I’ll branch off into general MLB, but I try to adhere to #YankeesOnly. Every so often I’ll stumble across something I completely forgot about, such as the back-to-back-to-back homers against the Indians in Game One of the 1997 ALDS. The bespectacled Eric Plunk gave up the first two homers and was a former Yankee, having come and gone in the two Rickey Henderson trades with the Athletics. The Yankees didn’t win that series, as you know, but boy where those three straight dingers awesome.

Here is tonight’s open thread. The Red Sox are playing the Rays right now on TBS and have a chance to sweep their ALDS matchup (Clay Buchholz vs. Alex Cobb). The Dodgers can eliminate the Braves at 9:30pm ET on TBS (Ricky Nolasco Clayton Kershaw vs. Freddy Garcia). The Jets and Falcons are the Monday Night Football game, plus the Rangers and Devils are both playing later on as well. Lots to talk about tonight. Go nuts.

Gonzales: Cubs have made it clear they will top Yanks' offer to Girardi
What Went Right: One-Run Games
  • The Real Greg

    So I think the Pirates will not be able to win Game 5 in St. Louis and they will feel the heartbreak again.

    An interesting fact I’ve discovered. The 1990 WS between the Reds and the A’s should have been called “The Past and Future Yankees” series

    Paul O’Neill
    Mariano Duncan
    Hal Morris
    Jose Rijo
    Joe Oliver
    managed by Lou Pinella

    Rickey Henderson
    Jose Canseco
    Willie Randolph
    Willie McGee
    Mike Gallego
    Scott Sanderson
    Felix Jose

  • The Walking Eddard

    I really like this As ballclub. Since the Rays are rolling over and Miggy is injured it’ll be up to the As to stop Boston. It would be one hell of a story. With a rotation led by Bartolo Colon by the way. The same Colon we let go after he had a fantastic season. But he tired down the stretch. Kuroda has tired down the stretch two straight seasons and people still want him back next year. Should have kept Bartolo on our staff.

    • Mikhel

      Remember Cashman got in contact with MLB to ask them to investigate Bartolo during the season he was pitching well, Brian tought he maybe was using banned substances or banned substances were involved in his offseason treatment/surgery. At that point it was hard for Bartolo to sign again with the Yanks. He was later caught using banned substances and suspended.

      • Mike Axisa

        That never happened.

        • WhittakerWalt

          Someone is conspiracy trolling extra-hard tonight.

    • Lukaszek

      I really like the As too. Mostly because no bunts (no giving up outs), their pitchers throw strikes and don’t walk anyone, and because the front office finally said “fuck getting four consecutive singles off a pitcher, WE NEED HOMERUN POWER UP IN HERE BEEYOTCH”. Pretty much the difference between late 00’S Athletics, and 10’s Athletics is that 10’s Athletics have power hitters. Amazing how much a couple of .250 average, 25 homerun hitters can help you win

    • Captain Turbo

      So we hate A-Rod for juicing but we love Bartolo. Am I missing anything?

      • Now Batting

        Yes. A-rod is an asshole.

  • Ivan

    Man those playoff games against Indians were pretty ultra competitive. People forget how fucking loaded those Indians teams were on offense.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Jeter’s mid-90s fade was pretty epic.
    Eric Plunk = Tim Curry

  • The Real Greg

    The weakness of Clay Buchholz used to be that he couldn’t locate his fastball. That’s gone now.

  • Mikhel

    Was 1997 when a Yankee player was called out when a throw by the pitcher (or catcher) hit him in the back when he was running in fair territory going from home to 1st base in either a slow grounder or a bunt? and the next season the same play happened by a Cleveland hitter-runner with two runners on base, was called safe with Knoblauch yelling while the runners made their way to home plate. or was everything during 1998? My memory sometimes its not so very good.

    • Mikhel

      Maybe it happened during 1998 with Knoblauch running and being called out for running in fair terrytory, and later, during the playoffs when the same play happened versus the Yankees the runner was conveniently called safe. I remember Knoblauch yelling pointing to the base while the runners made their way home and the hitter-runner made it all the way to third base.

      From 1997 I remember very well when Ramiro lost the game Mariano Rivera blew… curious thing: Mariano saved his first all-star game in 1997, a game won with a HR hit by Sandy Alomar (his first HR in all star games).

    • Darren

      You’re bringing up horrible memories of Joey Bleeping Cora

  • Bobby

    Great clip I miss those moments at the Old Stadium. That series ended up being tough to take but the back-to-back-to-back was epic. It’s amazing none of those Indians teams ever found a way to win a World Series.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Somehow, the worst of those Indians teams got the closest.

      1995-96 and ’98-’01, ish? Yeah. Those were stellar clubs.

  • Darren

    Escobar got a horrible jump. Also, that Red Sock was SO out at third.

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Kershaw is starting tonight, not Ricky Nolasco.

    Mattingly is sending Kershaw out on 3 days rest. Kershaw has never pitched on only 3 days rest. There’s a long history of playoff pitchers
    not doing well on 3 days rest.

    If this blows up, then Donnie will be the goat and there will be alot of pressure to replace him.

    • JGYank

      I agree it wasn’t the right move, but it’s hard to expect the game to blow up with Kershaw on the mound 3 days rest or not. He is the best SP in the game and maybe even the best pitcher.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I don’t think anyone’s job is in danger over starting your best pitcher on three days rest.

        • JGYank

          Yeah his job his safe but there is no need to start him on short rest when you’re up 2-1 in the series since you could start him in game 5 and if you win you can save him to start game 1 of the next series and have him start at least twice in the NLCS.

        • JGYank

          Plus Freddy Garcia is starting game 4 for the Braves. That’s a waste of your ace in a game you’re pretty likely to win anyway.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            You underestimate the power of sweatiness.

  • Kramerica Industries

    The 2-3 format from 1995-1997 wasn’t only heinously stupid, but it also flat out stiffed the Yankees in 1996 and 1997, too.

    Rangers had three home games to the Yankees two in 1996, despite being two games worse (90-72 vs. 92-70).

    Indians had three home games to the Yankees two in 1997, despite being nearly 10 games worse (86-75 vs. 96-66).

    WTF? I don’t want to use this as a full on excuse, but the Yankees might’ve won it all in ’97 under conventional systems.

  • JGYank

    Man, Longo is clutch. Tie game. In one swing. Let’s hope the Rays at least take away one game.

  • RetroRob

    One hour since the last post? The dead thread!

  • Darren

    the Sox/Rays game is pretty good.

    I’m still pissed Torre didn’t have anyone pitch inside to Ortiz in 2004 (or anytime after), and that nobody bunted on Schilling in the red nail polish on his sock game.

    • Mike B.

      Nail polish that folks believed was blood. Oh…those were the days!


  • OldYanksFan

    From Lohud:

    According to the Chicago Sun-Times, the White Sox will make a “hard push” to sign Granderson this offseason. Similar to Joe Girardi — who seems to have some interest from the Cubs — Granderson has a lot of ties to the Chicago area. It’s where he grew up and went to college, and it would make sense that there could be some appeal in returning to the area.

    Granderson’s agent has said Granderson would prefer to stay in New York, but signs of early interest might indicate that his earning power was not significantly impacted by last year’s pair of freak injuries. And that might stand in the way of the Yankees getting him on a short-term deal, possibly even a qualifying offer.

  • Darren

    And that, my friends, is the difference between Mariano Rivera, and the Fernando Rodneys of the world.

    • Tom

      And reports of Uehara being other-worldly have been greatly exaggerated!

      (He’s a very good, and until recently, very under-rated reliever but man that NESPN bandwagon got rolling in a hurry)

      • forensic

        It’s not long-term, but this season Uehara had a higher ERA+, lower WHIP, lower H/9, lower BB/9, and higher K/9 than Mo has ever had in any season of his career (other than BB/9 which Mo beat once).

        That is a pretty amazing season.

        • MB923

          Very underrated season. Everyone talks about Kimbrel and Chapman and Mo, not many people outside of the Bahstin area talk about Koji.

    • RetroRob

      Unfortunately, the Yankees will be in the same boat next year with Mo gone fishing.

      I was thinking Balfour might be a good addition, but after watching today’s game, the man seems like he’s coked up. The dead opposite of Rivera.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Next to Mo, we’re all coked up.

    • forensic

      That game ended the best way possible, Rodney blowing the save and the Rays still winning.

      Unfortunately, that series is probably all but over tomorrow with Hellickson pitching.

  • WhittakerWalt


    • WhittakerWalt

      That’s why you don’t bunt.
      Juan Uribe: postseason hero

  • WhittakerWalt

    This TBS coverage is ridiculous. They keep missing entire ABs.

    • barry

      No one wanted to watch that at bat anyway. The dugout celebration was more relevant really.

      • WhittakerWalt

        You’d think they would at least do picture-in-picture.

  • barry

    Remember when Yankee Stadium used to get that loud? Great crowd there. And that swing looked almost fake it was so fast, hard, and instantly gone.

    • Darren

      Well, it’s pretty much impossible for YS3 to ever get as loud as Old YS, considering the construction and how far back the upper deck is. And we’d need something more than just a regular payoff game. Maybe no playoffs for a few years? or a huge comeback game, something like that

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Yeah, a couple of weeks ago.

  • Darren

    Congrats Donnie Baseball! He made it to the Championship Series!!

    • forensic

      He sure is lucky though that Fredi Gonzalez apparently wanted to make sure Kimbrel was well rested for next season.

      I don’t know how you lose that game without Kimbrel throwing a single pitch, no matter how good Carpenter has been.

      Just another series added to the long list of playoff failures for the Braves, who haven’t won a playoff series since 2001. I guess they should’ve seen it coming though. You know you’re in bad shape when you’re starting Freddy Garcia in a postseason game.

      • MB923

        Kimbrel should have been on to start the 8th inning, and I’m not just saying that because it didn’t work out. Had not pitched since Friday, would have been an off day today.

        Fredi said he would have used Kimbrel for 4 outs. Is the difference between 4 outs and 6 outs all that much? You’re telling me your guy can’t throw maybe 8-10 pitches more than what you want him to?

        Very stupid decision.

      • Darren

        Except Freddy pitched really well and wasn’t the problem. The problem was that the Braves struck out a lot, as they’ve been doing all year,like Vin Scully said. And I don’t think you can kill Fredi for not putting in Kimbrell there when he hasn’t done it all year.

        Donnie should also get a ton of credit for starting Kershaw.

  • John C

    TBS announcers are brutal for the most part. I like Brian Anderson and Ron Darling. Thas about all. Ernie Johnson is the worst I’ve ever heard. Sounds like he is reading from a teleprompter. I actually liked Chip Caray alot better

    • MB923

      So is their technology and camera crew. Worst replay angles I’ve ever seen.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Ron Darling is great. I wish we could steal him from the Mets. TBS in general is terrible. I like Ernie Johnson, but not for baseball. And all of the missed plays and ABs are just disgraceful. But look, we cut away to Craig Sager wearing a funny suit, so it’s all good!

  • Broll The American

    I remember seeing the bats used by Raines/Jeter/O’Neil in the Hall of Fame from this game. Raines and Jeter’s bats are pristine while O’Neil’s bat was all gnarled and chipped from too many run-ins with Gatorade coolers and bullpen telephones.