Wednesday Night Open Thread

A-Rod: "I walked out and will not participate any further in this farce."
Heyman: Rangers, Tigers swap Fielder for Kinsler

I was in a Curtis Granderson highlight watchin’ mood today, so here’s a Curtis Granderson highlight video. You are forewarned, the music is a little NSFW. There’s a pretty good chance Granderson will sign with another team this winter and I’ll really miss him. Flawed player, yes, but also very fun to watch. Plus he seems like a pretty cool guy too. He’ll be missed.

Here is your open thread for the evening. The Devils, Knicks, and Nets are all playing, plus there’s college something on somewhere. You folks know the drill by now, so get to it.

A-Rod: "I walked out and will not participate any further in this farce."
Heyman: Rangers, Tigers swap Fielder for Kinsler
  • Ryan D

    I love a good power hitter, there’s nothing more exciting to the game; but I think we can do better in CF, especially if the Yanks pick up Choo or Ellsbury. I’m of the opinion that we might not need to sign a CF, but focus on getting Beltran and just move Gardy to CF and let Soriano take left.

    • Jonathan

      I don’t think it has anything to do with that. We have at least 1 or 2 spots open for him. I’d love to get Beltran and Grandy and have an OF/DH rotation of Soriano/Gardner/Beltran/Grandy. Gardner and Beltran have injury issues and it’d be a huge boost to the offense without giving out any long contracts. Also, Granderson doesn’t just seem to be a nice guy but is a ni , “Thank you”. THANK YOU!!! After taking the time during BP to sign for everyone who wants it, he thanks you. He’ll also talk plenty about baseball, personal stuff and he’ll even ask about you. I think we’re about to find out how much we’ll miss Granderson. I still say screw $189MM and let’s go:

      C McCann
      1B Tex
      2B Cano
      3B ARod? Peralta or Drew and maybe Reynolds or Chavez as backups
      SS Jeter/Peralta or Drew
      LF Granderson
      CF Gardner
      RF Beltran
      DH Soriano

      SP Sabathia
      SP Kuroda
      SP Tanaka
      SP Nova
      SP Phelps/Warren/Pineda/Nuno/1 year reclamation project

      RP Robertson
      RP Kelley
      RP Late inning guy
      RP LOOGY
      RP 7th inning type arm

  • Matt DiBari

    I always thought Granderson was a guy that MLB should promote the hell out of, in general, but particularly in black communities. If your goal is to get more young black kids into baseball and eventually into the league, I think Curtis is pretty close to the best guy you could send out there to talk in schools and whatnot.

    • CashmanNinja

      I actually really do agree with that. Grandy really is a nice guy on and off the field and definitely should be built up as a role model (since kids look up to athletes no matter what). MLB has a chance to really do some good with that and I hope they do before Granderson is out of the league.

    • Lukaszek

      I don’t believe in role models, but I do agree that Granderson is about as close to a role model as you can get. Grandy and McCutch would be great players to inspire young black kids to turn to baseball

  • Alkaline

    The last couple of days have had some awesome commentary.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Is Dean Anna any good?

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Fielder for Kinsler?
    Detroit must be eating some of the contract, no?

  • LarryM Fl

    Curtis has a great swing for Yankees Stadium. He plays the game the right way which makes his possible signing somewhere else difficult to accept. I do believe the Yanks will make an effort to sign but 189 may dictate a smaller offer than another club will offer. If Cano holds out for bigger dollars than the Yanks want to pay. Curtis may be in one of the corner spots.

    Arod and Cano are about 68 million dollars worth concentrated in a small segment of this team unfortunately.

  • The Other Matt

    Jon Heyman is reporting that the Tigers and Rangers have agreed to a trade that would send Prince Fielder to Texas and Ian Kinsler to Detroit. Interesting deal not only for the two big names involved, but you have to wonder if trading Fielder and his big contract allows Detroit to sign Scherzer now to a long term deal. Also, shows Rangers want to play Profar right now, presumably along side Andrus, assuming he won’t be traded now that they dealt Kinsler. But you never know. My biggest question is: who plays first for Detroit now ? They have two holes at the corner infield spots, for a team that has legitimate belief for competing for a World Series title right now.

    • Yankeefan91

      Cabrera To First Castellanos To Third.

      • The Other Matt

        Thanks for clearing that up. I actually came back to comment on my own post to remind myself that they do have Cabrera at 3rd. DUH ! LOL. But I do see him playing less in the field as time moves on, however he still is capable of playing 3rd 120+ games right now. A move to first does make sense, however. I have heard Castellanos name previously, but I didn’t know much other than he was their top prospect. Now knowing that he does play 3rd easily allows them to move Cabrera over to 1st, where he seems to be better suited probably, and sures up their infield. With Cabrera, Kinsler, Iglesias, and Castellanos, a young prospect, there is reason to be excited if your a Detroit fan. You have the best hitter in baseball, an above-average hitter in Kinsler, Igelsias is probably the best shortstop in the game defensively along with Simmons in Atlanta, and Castellanos as your top prospect getting an opportunity to play everyday with not an overwhelming amount of pressure for him to be a big bat.

      • Billy

        They could also re-sign Peralta

    • Jonathan

      Um….Miggy? Castellanos will go to 3B. You were joking about who was going to play 1B for Detroit, right?

  • Bo Knows

    I really despise James Dolan, has anyone looked at the Knicks draft situation?

    They have 2 picks over the next 4 years one first rounder in 2016 and a 2nd rounder next year. I really hope they can do something in FA because otherwise they are f’d in the a for a long time.

  • The Other Matt

    Yeah I had a brain fart moment. LOL. Clearly, since I forgot about the best player in the game right now. Which is why I came back to correct myself.

    • Jonathan

      I thought you were just being sarcastic but on the internet you just can’t tell. We all do it.

  • CashmanNinja

    I think it’s hard to pick a “winner” with this trade. I think Fielder is obviously the better bat, but his contract is pretty hefty. If Kinsler could stay healthy then maybe Detroit wins.

    • Dan

      I think Detroit won big. They got out of that contract before it became an albatross, and they can free up money to make their team more well rounded. Obv it depends on how much money is going to Texas, but if it’s like $5m or less per year, this is pretty clearly a Det win

    • The Other Matt

      I think the deal is pretty good for both teams. From Texas’ side: You get a top notch 1B in Fielder which they needed, and now have an opening at 2B to play Profar along Andrus at short.
      From Detroit’s perspective: You get from under Fielder’s contract, which can open up some money to try and sign Scherzer long term. You can move Miggy over to first you want, and then you can play Castellanos everyday at 3rd. Not to mention that you acquired a pretty good overall hitter in Kinsler at 2B, who’s contract is pretty good for them if you look at it. $16 mil for 14-15, $14 mil for 16, $11 for 17, and then a team option for 2018 at $10 mil. Not bad for the Tigers. I would say they got the upper hand in the deal.

      Also: Curious to see how Detroit forms their lineup, now without Fielder to protect Miggy. Will they bat Miggy cleanup and stick Kinsler at the 3 hole, or will they try and use Kinsler or Victor Martinez to protect Miggy and continue to have him bat third. Aside from that, just my opinion, I’m not overly sold on Profar. I just don’t necessarily see all the tools that constitute in him being a top prospect, but the jury is still out as he is still very young.

  • The Other Matt

    Yeah, very true. It does happen to all of us at one point or another.