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Teixeira hopes to return to game action during first week of March
2013 Winter Meetings Day Four Open Thread

The 2013 Winter Meetings are over. The Yankees didn’t make any moves these last few days but there were a bunch of rumors, most involving Brett Gardner. I’m glad the team values him as much as they apparently do and have set a high price. It would have been very easy to pull the trigger on that Gardner-for-Brandon Phillips offer, and heck, it sounds exactly like something they would have done about ten years ago. The countdown in the sidebar says we’re two months and two days away from pitchers and catchers reporting. Lots of time to fix that pitching staff and the infield.

Here is your open thread for the evening. The Lions and Broncos are the Thursday NFL game, plus the Rangers, Islanders, and Nets are all playing. Talk about those games, the Winter Meetings, or anything else right here. Enjoy.

(Not ashamed to admit I can’t wait to see the (latest) Godzilla remake.)

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Teixeira hopes to return to game action during first week of March
2013 Winter Meetings Day Four Open Thread
  • RetroRob
  • TWTR

    “…and heck, it sounds exactly like something they would have done about ten years ago.”

    Gardner for Phillips does sound like a George move.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Yeah. It got weird there with all the “good-looking” stuff. Saying it once, OK.

    But he came back to it again and thee were only like 5 softball questions and he kept coming back t handsome comments.

  • Mads W

    https://twitter.com/Todd_Dybas/statuses/411274082840084481

    So Cano says he didn’t think about the money… I call bullshit

    • forensic

      He said straight out to Pedro Gomez that he felt the Yankees disrespected him because they kept their offer at 7 years and he wanted this to be his last contract since he’ll be 37-38 at the end of it and wouldn’t be able to get more money at that point. And that’s how he’s passing off that he didn’t go for the money, since he took less AAV from the Mariners.

      • TWTR

        $175m for 7 years is disrespect? Whoa.

        That would likely have been his last contract anyway because there is no way any player entering his age 31 season can know that he can play even that long.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          So if it was just about the years, I’m sure he gladly would have signed 7/$175M if the Yankees had only tacked on 3 $1M player options.

          • TWTR

            Well played.

      • RetroRob

        Oddly, if those were his words, he admitted that he is going to be worthless at 37-38, yet he wanted the Yankees to pay for those worthless years.

        • The Big City of Dreams

          They’re paying for everyone else at those yrs.

      • camilo

        so, 10 yrs 200 mil could get it done, seemingly

      • forensic

        If anyone would like to listen for themselves, you can hear it here from The Michael Kay Show. Go to the Pedro Gomez Sound Byte near the middle of the page. They also discuss batting 2nd (Cano says it’s the most difficult spot to bat) and his lack of hustle (Cano says the normal excuse about wanting to play 160 games instead of 120).

        http://espn.go.com/new-york/radio/show?showId=TMKS

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          Running hard for 90 feet 2-3 times a game would definitely cost him 30-40 games a year.
          Does he think he’s Eric Chavez?

  • McLovin

    Love Godzilla! Can’t wait!

  • Captain Turbo

    Those HALO jumpers are lucky Rodan isn’t in this one.

  • Alkaline

    I’m actually pretty excited for this movie, too.

  • gbyanks

    thought this would be a good topic in a previous thread:

    if the royals sign infante does anyone think they would make Bonifacio available? They need a more legit backup catcher, and a utility man maybe cervelli and nunez. id throw in one of the young pitchers(phelps, warren, nuno) to sweeten the deal. at that point it would be an overpay but id like bonifaio a lot more then Ellis at second or Young/ Reynolds at third

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Seems like a big overpay for basically a speedier version of Jayson Nix.

      • gbyanks

        hes much better then nix. (nix career) slash.218/290/358 is alot worse then 262/322/340 (Bonifacio slash)even if he repeats his 2012 260/330 with 30 bags thats a real nice number 8 hitter. i will admit the overpay but that just the desperation lol

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          A .662 OPS isn’t that much better than a .648 OPS.
          He’s better, but not nearly enough better to give up much of anything for him.

          Recently they’ve been very close.
          2012-13
          Nix: 505 PA, 239/307/340, 77 wRC+, 1.0 fWAR, 1.2 bWAR
          Bonifacio: 735 PA, 248/308/325, 74 wRC+, 1.0 fWAR, 1.8 bWAR

          • gbyanks

            bonifaco had an awful first half of 2013 he rebounded well but his first half number are off from his career. i got carried away with the trade idea. somtimes you just keep adding on. just felt i needed more then cervelli cause bonifaco would give the royals alot of versatility

          • RetroRob

            Isn’t he also a horrible fielder?

            • forensic

              Just based on a quick look at FG defensive numbers, he looks like he’s probably about average at 2B alone. Little above or little below each year.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting

              I really haven’t seen him enough to judge, but his defensive metrics seem decent enough outside of SS and CF.
              A lot of split up playing time and SSS’s though, so I wouldn’t put a whole lot of stock in those numbers anyways.

    • forensic

      I will admit a slight interest in Bonifacio filling in at 2nd, likely only because he helped my fantasy team out the last few weeks of the year.

      But, that’s a huge overpay that I wouldn’t go near and he’s certainly got implosion potential, such as how he played for Toronto just last season.

      • gbyanks

        ok how about cervelli straight up?

        • forensic

          I don’t know enough about their contract and player situations to give a real opinion about whether Cervelli (and/or Nunez) would get him. Neither of them have much value, but neither does Bonifacio, in truth. Basing it on your theory that the Royals have signed Infante, I would think moving Bonifacio would be talked about, but no idea what it would take.

          I do know I wouldn’t include one of those pitchers for him though.

  • TWTR

    I don’t know what Hal is still willing to spend, but even though they have multiple needs, the first priority, I think, has to be Tanaka.

    • nycsportzfan

      Definetly. I’d argue Tanaka was the number 1 priority outside maybe Brian McCann for the yanks this offseason.

    • JGYank

      If I had to put our needs in order I would say SP (Tanaka) 2B (either Infante/Ellis) RP (1 or 2 of Benoit/Balfour/Logan?) and 3B (Reynolds/Chavez). Maybe move RP ahead of 2b but that seems about right to me. The rotation is the most important since our #5 starter is unknown and we probably won’t get much from that spot, CC is still a question mark, Nova is inconsistent, and Kuroda tends to fade down the stretch. The pen needs work, but I’m not sure how much they are willing to spend to improve it. At least we still have Drob and Kelley. I would prefer Kelley Johnson to be a utility guy but if worse comes to worse I guess he could play 2b or 3b.

  • art vandelay

    alright peeps, I need some fantasy football advice … I have one open WR spot, who should I start?

    Alshon Jeffery
    Julian Delman
    or
    Riley Cooper

    Thanks !~

    • forensic

      I would say Alshon Jeffery.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Jeffrey has been very good to me this season.

      I was watching Cooper throughout. A bit more hit or miss.

      Go Jeffrey.

    • nycsportzfan

      Jeffrey.

      I have similar issue. Jordy Nelson or Riley Cooper?

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I can’t quit Jordy. I just can’t. He basically has Eduardo Nunez throwing to him right now, but I’ve started him every week no matter.

        I picked up Michael Crabtree off the waiver wire and have thought about starting him over Jordy if Rodgers sits again. I just know Jordy’s too good a damn receiver to sit, even if he’s barely touched 10 points a week since Rodgers went down.

  • nycsportzfan

    Whats the deal with Howie Kendrick? Are the Angels asking to much? I thought they were in the hunt for pitching. If so, i’m surprised a David Phelps and Mark Montgomery package woulden’t work? Everyones talking about that devestating Slider Montgomery has, and Phelps has shown the ability to be used multiple ways and seems to be on his way to being a solid ML starter.

    • forensic

      I’d be really surprised if they still traded Kendrick now that they’ve already traded Trumbo.

      • RetroRob

        I read somewhere that with Trumbo gone Kendrick is pretty much off the table. It would also take more than Phelps and Montgomery to get him.

      • nycsportzfan

        gotcha. makes sense.

  • MD

    I know it has to be a huge, modern, CGI FX driven, tent-pole picture — but can we just leave Godzilla’s roar alone?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReEMeC-4rX0

    Accept no substitutes….

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      They really haven’t altered it much. It’s still the same fundamental sound just without the…reverb, I guess you could say.

  • Newman

    Bye bye Joba. Best of luck, dude. That one friggin’ span of power out of the pen was gorgeous.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Looks like Boone’s going to Colorado.

    • hey now

      Time to trade Gardner for a bullpen. Turns out you actually need one of those.

    • MD

      I was hoping for a last minute change in direction but it looks like a done deal now.

  • Aproven32

    Why is everybody so opposed to Nunez playing 2nd, feel he could but respectable umbers fo hardly any money. Use the 8 mil they would spend on infante and use for bullpen help

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Because Nunez has been respectable when?

      • Aproven32

        Nunez can bat .260-.280 with 30+ stolen bases for minimal money, just feel that money should be spent on a more glaring need like bullpen

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          He’s done that, for any consistent period of time, when? How was his defense during that period?

          Pure guesswork. After spending what this has spent thus far, squinting really hard and a prayer is not what I want at second base.

          I’d like to see them bring in one vet as insurance against someone like Kelley not being able to handle the 8th, but that’s about it.

        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          He might hit that, but his OBP will still only be in the .290-.310 range and he’ll probably still be a butcher on defense.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            It lives.

  • dc1874

    Anyone else watch Cricket on TV ?? I started watching now that baseball is over and it seems pretty cool to play!!

    • The Big City of Dreams

      I’ve watched it a few times on tv. My uncle took my cousin and I to a field in Brooklyn where various teams play each other. I never liked it as a kid but my dad loved cricket. It was his fav. sport probably next to soccer.

  • Anthropologique

    I’d be biting my nails if Nunez was made the everyday 2B.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      You have a funny way of saying “committing acts of random violence.”