Tuesday Night Open Thread

Scouting the Trade Market: Homer Bailey
Rosenthal: Tanaka's release fee to be paid across two years

Man I hope all of you are staying warm tonight. It has been brutally cold in the Tri-State Area (the entire country, really) these last 24 hours and it’s supposed to stay that way for another day or two. At least tomorrow the temperature will be in the 20s and not the single digits. Yeah, totally ready for the offseason to be over. Hurry up, Spring Training.

This is your open thread for the evening. The Knicks, Devils, and Islanders are all playing, so talk about those games or anything else on your mind right here. Go nuts.

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Scouting the Trade Market: Homer Bailey
Rosenthal: Tanaka's release fee to be paid across two years
  • forensic

    Ah Bernabe. Easily one of my 2 or 3 favorite players of all-time.

    • Wicomico Pinstripes

      Bern Baby Bern!

      Number 3 for me behind Mantle and Jeter.

      • forensic

        For me, Mattingly is up there with Bernie, along with A-Rod (ducks).

        Also, Winfield will always hold a special spot for me as the first player who made athletes seem larger than life to me (both literally and figuratively).

        • dkidd

          my top 5

          jorge
          bernie
          andy
          donnie
          mo

          • RetroRob

            My top 10. These are not ranked in order beyond Mattingly who does sit on top. I’d have to spend way too much time soul searching to put the other nine in order. Reggie is the interloper. Posada somehow didn’t make it. I’ve been watching since the 70s, so my list includes more choices, hence I went top ten.

            Mattingly
            Mo
            Munson
            Murcer (don’t worry, I’m moving beyond the M’s)
            White (yes, damn it, I liked Roy White!)
            Jeter
            Gator
            Bernie
            Andy
            Reggie

            • jim p

              Roy White seemed to always come through at the plate when you needed it. One of the more dependable, and underrated Yankees.

              Roy White stats: http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....osition=OF

              • OldYanksFan

                Absolutely. I started being a fan in ’65, and loved Roy from the git-go. Understated and under-rated. When you look up the word ‘Solid’ in the MLB dictionary, there you will find a picture of Roy White. A True Yankee in every sense of the term.

            • I’m One

              (Mostly) In order of appearance. Can’t really place them in order of my all-time favorites. I liked that all when they were playing.

              Richardson (Got his bat on bat-day at my first game)
              Murcer
              Munson
              Gator
              Raggs
              Mattingly
              Bernie
              Andy
              Jeter
              Mo
              Posada

      • Jersey Joe

        I’m 16 but I’ve been watching since ’04. My favorites (at the time I watched them):

        1. Jorge Posada – obvious
        2. Mariano Rivera – obvious
        3. Nick Swisher
        4. Tino Martinez
        5. Mike Mussina
        6. Robinson Cano
        7. Derek Jeter
        8. David Robertson
        9. Bernie Williams
        10. Andy Phillips

        • forensic

          Which one of these things is not like the others…

        • RetroRob

          ’04. Tough year to break in as a Yankee fan. Glad you stuck around!

          Andy Phillips, interesting. I guess we all have an Andy Phillips-type player from when we first started watching. Trying to think who that might be in my case back in the mid-70s? Maybe Elliott Maddox, although Maddox was a good player for a couple years until he messed up his knee. I’ll say Fred Stanley. The Chicken wasn’t all that good, but he replaced Jim Mason at shortstop, and I insist that Mason is in the running for the worst player ever to wear the pinstripes.

          • Jersey Joe

            I can explain.

            Some of my family friends’ had seats about 8 rows behind the 1st baseline. In 2007, my dad and my two and I went out from suburban NJ about six times. Phillips was usually manning first and we would always go down and solicit him for baseballs after infield warmups/end of innings. I remember going “Andy! Andy! Andy! Andy! AAAANNNDYYYY!” and I never got a ball. I don’t really know why I liked him but he was a hustling player and he wasn’t really that bad that year either.

            I also narrowly escaped a foul ball ripped by Giambi in those seats that would have smashed my face in. That was horrifying.

    • jim p

      Every spring Bernie would start out slow, then come late May he’d hit a six-week streak or so where he carried the team offensively. Then he’d add another two-four week streak in August. So for a third of the season or more, he’d be the offensive leader. And he did it for … six, seven, eight? years.

      Imagine having a prime Bernie in our lineup now.

    • lifelong yankee fan 333

      Also not in order following the top 2:

      Donnie baseball
      Jeter
      Mo
      Bernie
      O’neil
      Posada

      also a couple of my favs but not likely to make other’s lists.

      Pags – remember him?
      Pasqua

      • sevrox

        Mike Pagliarulo – yep – I’ve been following the team for awhile also. Gritty player. Dan Pasqua was to have been the next Great White Hope as I remember.

    • nycsportzfan

      1). Donnie Baseball
      2). Derek Jeter
      3). Bernie Williams
      4). Mo
      5). Pauly and Dandy Andy(tie)

      This Bern highlight reel put a big smile on my face! Good stuff!

  • Get Phelps Up (looking for a new name)

    I don’t know how some people can still take the BBWAA seriously after the work of art Ken Gurnick submitted as his HoF ballot today.

    • dkidd

      jack morris pitched to the score!!!

      (and amphetamines were cooler than steroids)

    • forensic

      Yup, impressive, wasn’t it? No one who ever stepped on the field during a 20-30 year span deserves to be in the HOF.

    • Wicomico Pinstripes

      To each his own.

      I totally disagree with his way of thinking on the subject, but he has earned his right to vote or so the BBWAA says. At least he made his choice public and won’t be filling out a ballot any time soon.

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

        The “logic” he used to defend his ballot should be enough to disqualify him from a 1st grade classroom, much less the BBWAA.

        • Wicomico Pinstripes

          Yep.

        • Get Phelps Up (looking for a new name)

          I think my favorite part of his explanation is the fact that Greg Maddux won 3 of his 4 Cy Youngs in years where Morris was active. So unless this guy really believes that Maddux and Bonds and all those guys only started taking PED’s in 1995, he directly pretty much directly contradicts himself!

    • RetroRob

      Take any group with hundreds of people and you will always find a crazy or extremist element. I’ve bashed the BBWAA myself on these votes, yet overall they do a good job. The whole steroid era is not the easiest to deal with. I believe players like Bonds and Clemens should be elected, but I do understand the other side, and that’s why it is difficult to get elected. 75% is needed and that’s going to be damn near impossible when deal with the PED issue.

      Blame? It’s really MLB and the HOF itself. They could provide additional guidance on the issue, and that whole nonsense character clause. They don’t.

  • hey now

    There was always something just re-affirming about seeing that #51 jersey running out to center field.

    It was like everything was right in the universe.

    • forensic

      Yup, and I’m not ashamed to say that’s part of why my MLB The Show player is always a switch-hitting centerfielder who wears #51 (one of the few reasons it’s nice that 51 isn’t retired yet).

    • nsalem

      Everything was right finr the universe when he turned around and settled under the drive of Pizza New York Catchers long drive to centerfield to conclude the 2000 WS. That was a scary couple of seconds. I have been in person for 2 of the Yankees World Series winning games. They were both on the road. I was at the Jeffrey Maier game in 96 when Bernie hit the walk off of Randy Myers. I think my favorite Bernie moment was the 8/8 /2000 2 pitch Justice/Bernie walkoff vs Jason Isringhausen. Headline on the Post the nextday was Bang Bang You’re Dead. Isringhausen’s made a great comment after the game which was “Yes I will be available and well rested to pitch tomorrow night”.

  • Ethan

    It was absolutely brutal in Toronto today. Around -10 F and it was -40 with the wind chill this morning went I went to class.

    • Ethan

      when I went*

      • I’m One

        That wind chill beats what we had here in southern CO. It was -13, but the wind chill didn’t approach -40.

        • Ethan

          Yeah it was awful. The temp isn’t too bad for Canada but 30 mph sustained winds with gusts of ~45 made being outside a miserable experience.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Dude, Mups alert.

  • jim p

    Tanaka and the 24th: Remember, he has to first pass a physical, have that physical reviewed, and then be signed by the 24th. I’d guess that means we’d know who won the bidding for him by the 17th-19th at the very latest.

    • forensic

      Eh, the 24th is a Friday, so for what it’s worth they wouldn’t have to deal with a weekend. I think they have basically have it wrapped up by about the 22nd, physical on 23rd (assuming everyone is somewhat comfortable waiting that long), and cross the t’s and dot the i’s on the 24th.

      Introductory Press Conference at YSIII on the 27th. (HOPEFULLY!)

      • jim p

        A day or two travelling from Japan to New York (hopefully), counting time to recover from Jet lag, the physical the next day, the next day review of the physical, the official signing on the 24th …. So the 19th to announce ‘Tanaka accepts Yankee bid’

        • forensic

          He won’t have to travel from Japan. He’ll already be in the US. There are already reports that he’ll be in Chicago this week. I’m sure he won’t bother travelling back to Japan again until it’s over. And I’m sure if needed the physical and review could easily be done in one day.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Would have been had he been in Chicago these past couple of days.

            “Hey Casey, I heard its warmer in New York. Let’s go there.”

  • BK2ATL

    MLB is really rigging this Tanaka/Japan posting system bidding.

    Now the max. $20 million posting fee will be split in 2 installments, to allow more teams to participate. How this, along with distributing the luxury tax to lesser successful team, just is ridiculous.

    So literally, the Yankees could be subsidizing another teams’ posting fee for Tanaka.

    • Ethan

      As long as it keeps a salary cap out of the game I’m ok with these relatively minor changes

      • BK2ATL

        Isn’t that just about what the $189 million number is? Either come in under that, or get taxed heavily.

        • Ethan

          Getting taxed at 50% is not nearly the same as not being able to spend anything over $ X. The Yankees make so much money they could (and probably largely do) give out contracts 1.5 times what other teams give out and still be competitive year in, year out. I don’t think that would be true if there were a salary cap.

  • OldYanksFan

    It’s a cold night during slooooooooooooooooow season…
    so here’s a pretty good story told by my hero.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded

    • Betty Lizard

      So wrong. But so funny.

  • nycsportzfan

    Bern wit the big oppo field blast off the big unit was cool.

  • Deep Thoughts

    Turns out the celery cap is, like, a real thing:

    http://www.zazzle.com/bunch_of.....9652886873

    • Betty Lizard

      I’m surprised I don’t have that.

    • I’m One

      We should get a group order together and customize that cap with something Yankee-related.

  • LarryM Fl

    Just wish more Yankee p[layers had Bernie’s heart and humility. He just did his job, well!

    • LarryM Fl

      Never took a typing class back in the day.

  • http://AOL Drifter

    Yanks in 2014, well at least if they can get some pitching and a closer, second baseman, and third baseman.

  • http://AOL Drifter

    Miguel Tejada I think I spelled his name right can play third and second, why haven’t the Yanks gone after this guy????