Tuesday Night Open Thread


Man I hope all of you are staying warm tonight. It has been brutally cold in the Tri-State Area (the entire country, really) these last 24 hours and it’s supposed to stay that way for another day or two. At least tomorrow the temperature will be in the 20s and not the single digits. Yeah, totally ready for the offseason to be over. Hurry up, Spring Training.

This is your open thread for the evening. The Knicks, Devils, and Islanders are all playing, so talk about those games or anything else on your mind right here. Go nuts.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. forensic says:

    Ah Bernabe. Easily one of my 2 or 3 favorite players of all-time.

    • Wicomico Pinstripes says:

      Bern Baby Bern!

      Number 3 for me behind Mantle and Jeter.

      • forensic says:

        For me, Mattingly is up there with Bernie, along with A-Rod (ducks).

        Also, Winfield will always hold a special spot for me as the first player who made athletes seem larger than life to me (both literally and figuratively).

        • dkidd says:

          my top 5


          • RetroRob says:

            My top 10. These are not ranked in order beyond Mattingly who does sit on top. I’d have to spend way too much time soul searching to put the other nine in order. Reggie is the interloper. Posada somehow didn’t make it. I’ve been watching since the 70s, so my list includes more choices, hence I went top ten.

            Murcer (don’t worry, I’m moving beyond the M’s)
            White (yes, damn it, I liked Roy White!)

            • jim p says:

              Roy White seemed to always come through at the plate when you needed it. One of the more dependable, and underrated Yankees.

              Roy White stats: http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....osition=OF

              • OldYanksFan says:

                Absolutely. I started being a fan in ’65, and loved Roy from the git-go. Understated and under-rated. When you look up the word ‘Solid’ in the MLB dictionary, there you will find a picture of Roy White. A True Yankee in every sense of the term.

            • I'm One says:

              (Mostly) In order of appearance. Can’t really place them in order of my all-time favorites. I liked that all when they were playing.

              Richardson (Got his bat on bat-day at my first game)

      • Jersey Joe says:

        I’m 16 but I’ve been watching since ’04. My favorites (at the time I watched them):

        1. Jorge Posada – obvious
        2. Mariano Rivera – obvious
        3. Nick Swisher
        4. Tino Martinez
        5. Mike Mussina
        6. Robinson Cano
        7. Derek Jeter
        8. David Robertson
        9. Bernie Williams
        10. Andy Phillips

        • forensic says:

          Which one of these things is not like the others…

        • RetroRob says:

          ’04. Tough year to break in as a Yankee fan. Glad you stuck around!

          Andy Phillips, interesting. I guess we all have an Andy Phillips-type player from when we first started watching. Trying to think who that might be in my case back in the mid-70s? Maybe Elliott Maddox, although Maddox was a good player for a couple years until he messed up his knee. I’ll say Fred Stanley. The Chicken wasn’t all that good, but he replaced Jim Mason at shortstop, and I insist that Mason is in the running for the worst player ever to wear the pinstripes.

          • Jersey Joe says:

            I can explain.

            Some of my family friends’ had seats about 8 rows behind the 1st baseline. In 2007, my dad and my two and I went out from suburban NJ about six times. Phillips was usually manning first and we would always go down and solicit him for baseballs after infield warmups/end of innings. I remember going “Andy! Andy! Andy! Andy! AAAANNNDYYYY!” and I never got a ball. I don’t really know why I liked him but he was a hustling player and he wasn’t really that bad that year either.

            I also narrowly escaped a foul ball ripped by Giambi in those seats that would have smashed my face in. That was horrifying.

    • jim p says:

      Every spring Bernie would start out slow, then come late May he’d hit a six-week streak or so where he carried the team offensively. Then he’d add another two-four week streak in August. So for a third of the season or more, he’d be the offensive leader. And he did it for … six, seven, eight? years.

      Imagine having a prime Bernie in our lineup now.

    • lifelong yankee fan 333 says:

      Also not in order following the top 2:

      Donnie baseball

      also a couple of my favs but not likely to make other’s lists.

      Pags – remember him?

      • sevrox says:

        Mike Pagliarulo – yep – I’ve been following the team for awhile also. Gritty player. Dan Pasqua was to have been the next Great White Hope as I remember.

    • nycsportzfan says:

      1). Donnie Baseball
      2). Derek Jeter
      3). Bernie Williams
      4). Mo
      5). Pauly and Dandy Andy(tie)

      This Bern highlight reel put a big smile on my face! Good stuff!

  2. Get Phelps Up (looking for a new name) says:

    I don’t know how some people can still take the BBWAA seriously after the work of art Ken Gurnick submitted as his HoF ballot today.

    • dkidd says:

      jack morris pitched to the score!!!

      (and amphetamines were cooler than steroids)

    • forensic says:

      Yup, impressive, wasn’t it? No one who ever stepped on the field during a 20-30 year span deserves to be in the HOF.

    • Wicomico Pinstripes says:

      To each his own.

      I totally disagree with his way of thinking on the subject, but he has earned his right to vote or so the BBWAA says. At least he made his choice public and won’t be filling out a ballot any time soon.

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead says:

        The “logic” he used to defend his ballot should be enough to disqualify him from a 1st grade classroom, much less the BBWAA.

        • Wicomico Pinstripes says:


        • Get Phelps Up (looking for a new name) says:

          I think my favorite part of his explanation is the fact that Greg Maddux won 3 of his 4 Cy Youngs in years where Morris was active. So unless this guy really believes that Maddux and Bonds and all those guys only started taking PED’s in 1995, he directly pretty much directly contradicts himself!

    • RetroRob says:

      Take any group with hundreds of people and you will always find a crazy or extremist element. I’ve bashed the BBWAA myself on these votes, yet overall they do a good job. The whole steroid era is not the easiest to deal with. I believe players like Bonds and Clemens should be elected, but I do understand the other side, and that’s why it is difficult to get elected. 75% is needed and that’s going to be damn near impossible when deal with the PED issue.

      Blame? It’s really MLB and the HOF itself. They could provide additional guidance on the issue, and that whole nonsense character clause. They don’t.

  3. hey now says:

    There was always something just re-affirming about seeing that #51 jersey running out to center field.

    It was like everything was right in the universe.

    • forensic says:

      Yup, and I’m not ashamed to say that’s part of why my MLB The Show player is always a switch-hitting centerfielder who wears #51 (one of the few reasons it’s nice that 51 isn’t retired yet).

    • nsalem says:

      Everything was right finr the universe when he turned around and settled under the drive of Pizza New York Catchers long drive to centerfield to conclude the 2000 WS. That was a scary couple of seconds. I have been in person for 2 of the Yankees World Series winning games. They were both on the road. I was at the Jeffrey Maier game in 96 when Bernie hit the walk off of Randy Myers. I think my favorite Bernie moment was the 8/8 /2000 2 pitch Justice/Bernie walkoff vs Jason Isringhausen. Headline on the Post the nextday was Bang Bang You’re Dead. Isringhausen’s made a great comment after the game which was “Yes I will be available and well rested to pitch tomorrow night”.

  4. Ethan says:

    It was absolutely brutal in Toronto today. Around -10 F and it was -40 with the wind chill this morning went I went to class.

  5. Kramerica Industries says:

    Dude, Mups alert.

  6. jim p says:

    Tanaka and the 24th: Remember, he has to first pass a physical, have that physical reviewed, and then be signed by the 24th. I’d guess that means we’d know who won the bidding for him by the 17th-19th at the very latest.

    • forensic says:

      Eh, the 24th is a Friday, so for what it’s worth they wouldn’t have to deal with a weekend. I think they have basically have it wrapped up by about the 22nd, physical on 23rd (assuming everyone is somewhat comfortable waiting that long), and cross the t’s and dot the i’s on the 24th.

      Introductory Press Conference at YSIII on the 27th. (HOPEFULLY!)

      • jim p says:

        A day or two travelling from Japan to New York (hopefully), counting time to recover from Jet lag, the physical the next day, the next day review of the physical, the official signing on the 24th …. So the 19th to announce ‘Tanaka accepts Yankee bid’

        • forensic says:

          He won’t have to travel from Japan. He’ll already be in the US. There are already reports that he’ll be in Chicago this week. I’m sure he won’t bother travelling back to Japan again until it’s over. And I’m sure if needed the physical and review could easily be done in one day.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner says:

            Would have been had he been in Chicago these past couple of days.

            “Hey Casey, I heard its warmer in New York. Let’s go there.”

  7. BK2ATL says:

    MLB is really rigging this Tanaka/Japan posting system bidding.

    Now the max. $20 million posting fee will be split in 2 installments, to allow more teams to participate. How this, along with distributing the luxury tax to lesser successful team, just is ridiculous.

    So literally, the Yankees could be subsidizing another teams’ posting fee for Tanaka.

    • Ethan says:

      As long as it keeps a salary cap out of the game I’m ok with these relatively minor changes

      • BK2ATL says:

        Isn’t that just about what the $189 million number is? Either come in under that, or get taxed heavily.

        • Ethan says:

          Getting taxed at 50% is not nearly the same as not being able to spend anything over $ X. The Yankees make so much money they could (and probably largely do) give out contracts 1.5 times what other teams give out and still be competitive year in, year out. I don’t think that would be true if there were a salary cap.

  8. OldYanksFan says:

    It’s a cold night during slooooooooooooooooow season…
    so here’s a pretty good story told by my hero.


  9. nycsportzfan says:

    Bern wit the big oppo field blast off the big unit was cool.

  10. Deep Thoughts says:

    Turns out the celery cap is, like, a real thing:


  11. LarryM Fl says:

    Just wish more Yankee p[layers had Bernie’s heart and humility. He just did his job, well!

  12. Drifter says:

    Yanks in 2014, well at least if they can get some pitching and a closer, second baseman, and third baseman.

  13. Drifter says:

    Miguel Tejada I think I spelled his name right can play third and second, why haven’t the Yanks gone after this guy????

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