Fan Confidence Poll: February 10th, 2014

Weekend Open Thread
The best case scenario for a fifth starter competition with no clear favorite

2013 Season: 85-77 (637 RS, 671 RA, 77-85 pythag. record), didn’t qualify for playoffs

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Weekend Open Thread
The best case scenario for a fifth starter competition with no clear favorite
  • I’m One

    Can’t wait for ST to get into full swing. Anxious for any type of real baseball activities.

  • TWTR

    I really, really hate the thought of Banuelos in the pen, especially coming off of surgery and missing so much development time, but it doesn’t move the needle at this point.

    • I’m One

      While I’d prefer to see him in AAA getting regular starts (for some reason, they refuse to consult with me on these sorts of things), I’m OK with him being in the pen on the MLB team if the Yankees feel he’s ready for that level of competition. They may feel it allows them to control the build up of his innings load and may be the best way for them to control his development.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I still think that comment was a whole lot of nothing.

        I’d prefer to see him stretched out in AAA, getting back into the swing of things, and ready to help when needed as well.

        • LitFig


          If they need him in the pen later in the season (August and september), then fine.

          But let him start and build up the workload first.

          I’m really pulling for ManBan and Pineda this season. We could have 3 young controlled guys (Tanaka, Pineda, Nova) and one waiting in the wings for when Kuroda wears down or retires.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            From your mouth to god’s ears.

          • TWTR

            Exactly, doing it late in the season to merely gain some ML experience while aiding a playoff push makes sense because he would have already had the chance to work on all his pitches and gain arm strength.

            • jsbrendog

              to play devil’s advocate here…

              I’m not against putting him in the pen at the ML level to build that arm strength and then send him down to start if/when someone else proves themself as a bullpen arm.

              this helps him learn to get ML hitters out while building arm strength and to see if he can do it…

              obv id personally rather see him stay in aaa and start but, at this point when it comes to player development im just whatever.

              • TWTR

                Except his likely role in the pen would probably only provide irregular work, and potentially no opportunity to have the freedom to use all of his pitchers.

  • The Great Gonzo

    Although nothing of material value has happened over the past few weeks to change my view (or maybe BECAUSE nothing has happened…), I am going back to my baseline 7.

    That said, Banuelos being on a normal throwing regimen again is inspiring to me. That, and him not being dead…

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    Still somewhere between a 7 and 8, trending more towards the seven because of the unknowns at this point.

    I’m looking forward to seeing what falls off other teams’ infield tree when you shake it in Spring Training. Otherwise, Team Sizemore FTW.

  • sevrox

    I think this team will be much more fun to watch this year – gave ’em a 7. Still unsure about the pitching but I think the infield will surprise folks (positively).

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Quite possible indeed.

      I would LOVE for Sizemore to look like a legit 3B option, pushing Johnson into a backup role at 2B/3B and Option B to Roberts. Right there, that’s stronger depth. You still have Ryan as SS depth.

      Things have to break right, but there’s potential there.

      • Jarak

        Sizemore a righty platoon guy will get at bats against lefties. Get accustomed to Johnson at Third as most pitchers are righty.

  • LitFig


    Can’t wait until we can talk about ACTUAL baseball, instead of Stephen Drew and infield WAR. The handwringing has gotten annoying.

    • jjyank

      Cheers to that. I am very much looking forward to talking about the results of actual games instead of theoretical wins and projections.

  • Pseudoyanks

    The Yankees added a Statistical Analyst? Was this job posted on Monster? Would they not realize that RAB’s own Mike Axisa should be the VP of all Major & Minor League Statistical Research and Strategy?? Think you could get that done with a staff of 3? Seriously.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Mike Axisa: VP of Jacoby Ellsbury Jokes.

      • The Great Gonzo

        Also, Director of ‘Fuck Ichiro’, amirite?

        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          Chairman of “Wanted to Hear Ken Singleton Mispronounce Shin-Soo Choo for 7 Years.”

  • JFH

    5. As constructed right now, we are not much better than we were last year, when we played over pythag. Infield and bullpen have lots of question marks. Player development is not likely fill many gaps in the next couple of years.

  • Havok9120

    Back to a seven because nobody has died yet.

    Give me baseball.

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

      I heard Banuelos was dead.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I heard Stephen Drew can make the dead rise.

        I’ve heard that before about Seth Smith, Dom Brown, Jorge Vazquez, Ryan Spilborghs, and Ronnie Mustellier. Maaaaaaaaybe Brown can.

        • The Great Gonzo

          Also, Justin Maxwell, Greg Golson, Zolio Almonte AND Melky TWO & Melky ONE… The ‘All What Coulda Been’ Outfield

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Oh, this was more the “Offseason MUST-HAVES OR ELSE” list of years past.

      • Havok9120

        You kept telling me he wasn’t! Have you changed your mind?

        In the meantime, last Spring is too firmly remembered by me to mock injuries too openly. From Tex’s first wrist problem at the start to Mason Williams getting hit by an errant throw while he was standing in the tunnel in the Arizona Fall League…I just think we need to be making a few nods to whichever baseball god is in charge of health.

        Or we could just blame that darn gypsy that lives in the Yankee Stadium basement.

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          Nah, I know he’s alive; but people keep writing his epitaph so I’m confused.

          I always blame gypsies.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            I was mugged by an eight year-old gypsy once.


      • I’m a looser and a trader baby so why don’t you kill me?

        Long live Bañuelos.

      • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

        Hell, even Banuelos thought he was dead.

        Turned out he was just in Nebraska.

  • Darren

    Up to a 9 because Jeter’s healthy. Let’s be real, this year will hinge on whether he’s healthy and hitting.

    • Benjamin Kabak

      If that’s the case, I’m terrified for this year. Luckily, that’s not the case.

      • Havok9120

        So much this.

      • Darren

        You don’t think? It certainly felt like Jeter’s inability to get healthy last year was the biggest individual problem with the team. If for no other reason than it exposed us to the parade of horribles in the infield. Although I guess the black hole at catcher was right up there in terms of major issues. And CC being so bad. But it’s certainly the biggest question mark with the most at stake. I mean, there are other big questions (Tanaka, CC, Robertson) but if Jeter can’t play, we’ve got major, major issues.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          I’d say CC, Tex and, to an extent, Kuroda are more vital right now that Jeter.

          • Darren

            I guess I’m curious how you make those evaluations? I always thought it was more difficult to replace an offensive minded SS than a first baseman or non-ace starter.

            • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

              In general that’s accurate. But it doesn’t account for the actual state of MLB, right now, and who’s available.

              It’s near impossible to replace any of the guys Jorge mentioned.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Counting on Derek Jeter to be an “offensive-minded SS” in 2014……yeah.

              These things don’t exist in a vacuum. The Yankee rotation, as presently constructed, needs a rebound from CC and stability from Kuroda in order to have a reasonable chance. Otherwise, you’re relying way too much on a guy who’s never thrown a pitch in the majors and a guy who has yet to make it through a season as a starter without a nice vacation in Scranton, PA. That’s not a good recipe. The Yanks need CC and Kuroda this year.

              They also need Mark Texiera greatly. He is, by leaps and bounds, the biggest offensive threat in that infield (not counting McCann, who is technically an infielder.)

              The Yanks could survive without Jeter this season. I’m not convinced they could survive without their first two starters or first baseman.

            • Havok9120

              Who is the backup 1B that has Tex’s upside? Heck, who’s the backup 1B better than replacement level?

              What do we do if CC can’t pitch better than many #4 starters anymore? If Kuroda falls off a cliff?

              Unless we’re supposed to be expecting Jeter to reproduce 2012-like numbers and not have his defense seriously impacted by the leg/ankle injuries, I’m not sure why he would be less replaceable on a team with Ryan and, gulp, Nunez already available.

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          If Tex can’t play, we’ve got major, major issues.

          If Tanaka sucks we’ve got major, major issues.

          If CC doesn’t recover at least to a #3 starter level, we’ve got major, major issues.

          If Robertson gets hurt, we’ve got major, major issues.

          If Ellsbury or Beltran get hurt or drastically underperform, we’ve got major, major issues.

          The list goes on. There’s never a single pivot point on an MLB roster; there are too many moving pieces.

  • Dars

    Everyone banks our chances on Jeter and Tex. I think this two will likely be OK but they are not the superstars there once were.
    I think our success dwells on Ivan Nova and Michael Pineda and Preston Claiborne, Dellin Betances and Cesar Cabral…..

    If Nova pitches like he did in the second half of the season and Pineda comes close to what he was prior to surgery, this Yankee time will be a formidable foe. If Cabral, Betances and Claiborne solidify the 6th and 7th innings we will be in even better shape. I think Kelly and Robertson are fine for the 8th and 9th but these 3 guys are the key…..

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      They could finish 1-5 in Cy Young voting and Jeter/Tex would still be massively important.

  • Matt :: Sec110

    Is ARod still suing the Yankees’ medical staff?

  • The Raul Mondesi Era

    I won’t move above a 6 until I know Teixeira is healthy enough to be an average player

  • I’m a looser and a trader baby so why don’t you kill me?

    5. Holding steady until we get some games under our belts and no one drops dead, or worse, in ST.

  • CS Yankee

    8, cause if CC is not an ace and Cashman commited 175M$ to a #3 they must have someone else in the wings.

    Seriously, last years team had Ichiro and Overbay in their top 5 in team stats, true story. Other than Cano batting, they had next (Grit) to nothing (Stewie, Nix, etc).

    Other than Cano, they are better on paper than the other eight spots in the batting order…will miss Mo, Pettitte replaced by Tanaka, Hughes is gone (has to be an upgrade), CC should rebound, Nova is undervalued.

    My over/under is 92 games for this team to date.

  • JLC 776

    Can’t wait for ST to start!

    I’m holding onto my 4 for now as that’s where I was at the end of last year and while there have been some positive short-term moves (they’ve gone from ‘noncompetitive’ to ‘maybe in the mix’ in my opinion), I’m still less than confident for the long-term of this team.

    At the very least, I’m happy setting my expectations low and hoping to be pleasantly surprised (like I was last year).