Monday Night Open Thread

Wolfson: Yankees recently inquired about Ervin Santana
Thoughts before pitchers and catchers report

Happy birthday goes out to Hiroki Kuroda, who turns 39 today. He hasn’t just been the team’s best pitcher these last two years, he has legitimately been one of the best pitchers in all of baseball. On par with guys like Cole Hamels, Yu Darvish, David Price, and even Felix Hernandez if you stick to bWAR. The Yankees will need Kuroda to be as good as ever in 2014 as CC Sabathia looks to rebound from a dreadful season and Masahiro Tanaka makes the transition to MLB.

Here is your open thread for the evening. YES is showing Tanaka’s start against the Yomiuri Giants from last summer in its entirety (7pm ET), if you’re interested. The Olympics are on as well. Talk about whatever you like here. Have at it.

Wolfson: Yankees recently inquired about Ervin Santana
Thoughts before pitchers and catchers report
  • jjyank

    Bah. Wish I got YES. Watching some real baseball and getting amped about Tanaka at the same time sounds like a great way to spend a night on my day off.

    • JGYank

      Tanaka got out of a bases loaded 1 out jam in the 1st by getting a dp after giving up 2 singles and a walk. The hitters often slap at the ball and Andruw Jones and Casey McGehee bat in the middle of the order for Tanaka’s team. Tanaka has located his pitches well so far and really slowed down his pace with runners on.

  • Tanuki Tanaka (Formerly Bob Buttons)

    Random thought activity: If Kuroda was 34 not 39 what would he get on the open market?

    • FIPster Doofus


      • forensic

        That seems a little low to me, though I could certainly be wrong. We might actually get a pretty good idea of an answer to that next offseason with James Shields. You could probably take Shields’ deal and subtract a little to get to what Kuroda would get.

    • The Great Gonzo

      My guess would be 4/60.

  • John

    Wow this is really fun watching this guy pitch. He’s going to be an ace watch out mlb

  • sevrox

    Watching the Kuroda highlights – they showed the batters coming up for the Yanks in the following half inning as ‘Nix, Gardner, and Francisco’ – Thank God/Allah/Buddha/Muhammed that they made a few deals this offseason…

  • John Duci

    Tanaka just hit an RBI 2B lol!!

    • forensic

      He’ll be part of the infield rotation on the days he’s not starting.

      • Alkaline

        Thinking outside the box. I like it.

        • Betty Lizard

          Thinking outside the mound.

  • vicki

    did everybody see the tanaka scouting report on mlbtr? favorite line:

    “He pitches kind of with a little chip on his shoulder.”


    • Havok9120

      It was definitely interesting. It’s cool that they’ve got the sources at various teams to put a piece like that together. I’d much rather hear what the scouts are saying than look at what the projection systems think he’s capable of.

    • Alkaline

      I like that.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Wow…if he really is a top 15-25 guy, that would be amazing.

      • Havok9120

        Yeah, the fact that that was the consensus pick and the outlier had him as a true ace….

        Me likey.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Is it weird that I trust these scouts outlook more than Cashman’s or anything a Yankee scout says? Not saying I don’t like/trust Cash or the Yankees pro scouting, but now that Tanaka is under contract anything the team says about him can be construed as goals or trepidation or regret. These four guys are apparently some of the best in their field if they’re working for MLB teams and have nothing to gain or lose by giving their honest opinion.

          • pft2

            Maybe they said the same thing about Daisuke.

            Who knows how many scouts were interviewed and if the author cherry picked them.

            Like Baseball Americas top 100 which also is based on scouts from various teams, and 70% of them are busts. Its incredibly hard to predict how talent in lower leagues does in the MLB.

            • Havok9120

              That just makes it sound like you don’t listen to what anyone says because the possibility exists that they could be wrong.

            • Bo Knows

              Daisuke’s issues were the fact he always nibbled, never really trying to attack the hitter or even occasionally pitch to contact. Daisuke had good stuff and it showed in his first 2 season’s but the players started to adjust when they realized he wasn’t going challenge them. It also didn’t hurt that Daisuke kept with the kitchen sink approach typical of Japanese league pitchers rather than using a smaller repertoire consisting of only his best pitches.

              Example: Darvish in Japan used 4 seamers, 2seamers, cutters, sliders, curveballs, splitters; Darvish in the US is really a 4 seam/slider/cutter/curve guy with the 4 seamer and slider making up the vast majority of his pitches thrown and the cutter and curve being wrinkles.

    • nycsportzfan

      I hope that chips still there now that he realizes his services are worth 155million dollars to somebody. That kinda makes people believe in themselves alittle more, i would

  • JoeyA


    Upcoming batters after one of those HIROK highlights. I’m glad that will never happen again.

  • nycsportzfan

    Anyone know when the 1st spring game is?

    • Dalek Jeter

      25th vs the Seminoles. I doubt it’s going to be broadcasted though. YES doesn’t have anything about what games will be and won’t be broadcasted.

      • nycsportzfan

        Thanks. Can’t wait for the boxscore

  • Dalek Jeter

    This thread is dead tonight…


    There…that should shake things up a bit.

    • lightSABR

      Why don’t you go kiss your framed picture of either Brian Cashman or David Ortiz, you mindless Polyanna and/or secret Red Sox-fan troll!

    • Havok9120

      We could always talk about Pete Rose….


      • Dalek Jeter

        I actually thought about suggesting bringing the conversation over here, but they don’t need to see the infighting. They just need to see the United Pollyanna Front.

    • Captain Turbo


      • Havok9120


        • The Great Gonzo


  • Captain Turbo

    Let’s hope that old arm has 180 good innings left in it.