Open Thread: 3/27 Camp Notes

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The Yankees played their final road game of the spring this afternoon, beating the Pirates 4-2. CC Sabathia threw 44 pitches across four innings in his final tune-up, allowing three hits with no walks and no strikeouts. He finishes the spring having allowed three runs on 13 hits with a 16/3 K/BB in 21 innings. His next start will be Opening Day, Tuesday in Houston. David Phelps had a rough two-thirds of an inning and was charged with the two runs, but Dellin Betances, Vidal Nuno, and Adam Warren all threw scoreless innings.

At the plate, Ichiro Suzuki and Eduardo Nunez both went 3-for-4, all singles. Zoilo Almonte went 3-for-3 with a double. Mark Teixeira and Brian McCann both went 0-for-3, though Teixeira drew a walk. Bench candidates Yangervis Solarte and Dean Anna were both hitless in four trips to the plate. You could definitely tell the end of Spring Training is close because there was a ton of first pitch swinging. Guys are ready to get out of Florida. Can’t blame ‘em. Here’s the box score, here are the video highlights, and here’s the rest from Tampa.

  • The Yankees announced a big round of roster cuts this morning: Preston Claiborne and Zoilo Almonte were optioned to Triple-A Scranton while Russ Canzler, David Herndon, Jim Miller, Scott Sizemore, Yoshinori Tateyama, Danny Burawa, Chris Leroux, and Fred Lewis were reassigned to minor league camp. Herndon is expected to opt-out of his contract by Sunday. There are now 34 players left in big league camp by my unofficial count.
  • Jacoby Ellsbury (calf) worked out today and will play in games Friday and Saturday. It’s unclear if they will be regular Grapefruit League games or minor league games. If he plays in a regular spring game, they won’t be able to backdate a DL stint if he suffers a setback. [Dan Barbarisi, Jorge Castillo]
  • Phelps, Warren, Nuno, Betances, and Cesar Cabral are all scheduled to pitch again on Saturday, their final tune-ups before the season. The roster is expected to be announced tomorrow and at least one of those guys won’t make the bullpen. [Chad Jennings]

This is your open thread for the evening. Both YES (7pm ET) and MLB Network (right now) will replay this afternoon’s game, plus MLB Network will show the Giants and Athletics later tonight. They’re playing in AT&T Park, so teams are starting to return to their cities. The Islanders and Devils are playing as well. Talk about anything and everything right here.

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  • Tom

    Tigers have agreed to extend Miguel Cabrera – reports are a 8/248mil (on top of existing contract that runs thru 2015). It would basically run through age 40 and is a total of ~10/292 if you add it to his existing deal.

    As good as Cabrera is and at the risk of stating the obvious… that seems like a lot (meaning: too much).

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      That’s pretty batshit. Enjoy him while he’s still good, Detroit.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      I don’t really see the point.
      Would he/could he possibly get any more than that as a free agent in 2 years?
      Seems like they gave him max free agent $$$ (or even beyond that) 2 years before free agency.

      Seems … odd.

    • BFDeal

      It’s now being reported the deal includes two option years at $30M each. No details on vesting/club options yet.

    • Preston

      He has 2 vesting options for 30 million apiece. Brings the new contract up to 10/308 and the total money owed up to 12/352.

      • Dalek Jeter

        To quote Lana Kane, “I’m literally wet with jealousy.” And I’m a man.

    • Fin

      Yikes! That’s just nuts. That kinda money for an obese guy who is almost a certainty to have considerable injury problems going forward. Has MLB ever seen a really fat guy, play until they are 40? I cant think of any off the top of my head. Bonds was really big, but I don’t think he was fat like Miggy and he had considerable help. Most non athletes start to have problems when they are as heavy as Cabrera in their 30s. Cant imagine trying to play a professional sport carrying that kind of weight in your mid to late 30s. They will be very fortunate if hes as good of a DH as Ortiz is in a few yeas.

    • Steve (different one)

      I wouldn’t worry. In 2 years they will trade him to Texas for Elvis Andrus.

      • vicki

        i’ve stolen this joke and sent it to all my tiger fan friends.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Take a bow.

  • BFDeal

    Miggy 8/$248 of new money. Can’t wait to see what Trout gets down the road.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I originally thought Trout was going to be the first $30 AAV guy, but with a pitcher and an all-bat guy are getting getting essentially $30 AAV contracts…Maybe Trout can get $40?

      • ALZ

        I don’t fear Miggy getting injured though.

        • Dalek Jeter

          I can’t see how he doesn’t have nagging knee, ankle, hammy, or back (or all of these) by 2018/2019. I mean, I think Miggy’s in better shape than Fin is giving him credit for, but the dude isn’t the pinnacle of physical excellence out there.

          • Fin

            I really wasn’t trying to exaggerate. Is there a heavier player in the sport, I think hes significantly heavier than Panda and the only reason it isn’t discussed is because hes so good, criticizing is really silly. However, in the context of a contract for this length and magnitude, the discussion is certainly warranted.

            Honestly, how can a guy carrying that type of weight, not have joint and back issues as he enters his mid 30s? But who knew there were all these teams out there trying to make the Arod contract look less awful. At least the Yankees signed that contract when players were dominating in their late 30s early 40s with steroids. There is no excuse for these teams doing it now. This contract really does make Cano’s contract look a lot better.

            • Preston

              He’s a bigger guy than Panda, but Panda is 5-11 and Cabrera is 6-4. He’s not nearly as fat as Panda or Fielder. He’s no bigger than Ortiz was and he’s going strong at 37. Although to be fair Ortiz committed himself to getting in shape and shed a lot of the excess baggage recently. If Cabrera wants to play until he’s 40 or 42, he’s going to have to start making fitness a priority in the next 3-4 seasons.

              • Fin

                See I disagree, I think he’s quite a bit fatter than Ortiz and somewhat more than Panda. No way to know for sure as none of them are gona model for us with their shirt off, nor can you trust any height/weight stats out there.

  • Yankee$

    What!?!? A video of Ichiro? You hate Ichiro Axisa! You’ve been bashing him since he boarded a LaGuardia bound plane from Sea-Tac! How dare you! You can’t post an Ichiro video!! I am outraged! How double dare you! You may never eat sushi again!!

    • Steve (different one)

      This is completely unfair. Remember, the trade happened when the Yankees were in Seattle, so mike actually hated him way before he got on any plane….

  • Dalek Jeter

    Former Yankee Tony Clark was “overwhelmingly” confirmed as the MLBPA’s new Executive Director. Between him and his deputy, (also former Yankee) Dave Winfield there is no way they don’t physically scare the rookie commish next year.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      I think I’ve seen this discussion somewhere before.

      • Dalek Jeter

        You may have.

  • Mick taylor

    MLB has great show on tonite on maybe greatest Yankee game 2003 Boone game.

    • Dalek Jeter

      That game sealed that I was going to spend my life as a Yankee fan.

    • Yankee$

      I missed that game and the entire series.

    • Wheels

      Sucks we lost to the goddamn Marlins.

      • Dalek Jeter

        That series is what sealed my hate for Ivan Rodriguez and Josh Beckett.

      • Yankee$

        I saw that entire series.

        • vicki

          clearly, you are a jinx.

          • Yankee$

            But, but, I’ve seen some winning series too…lots of em.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        To the chagrin of that one troll, this was the moment I renounced any bit of affection I had left for the Marlins.

        • Truther

          Ahhhhh poor wittle wittle Jorge Tilapia is butthurt. HAHAHAHA

          Everyone knows a week later you were celebrating the Marlins Championship over the Yankees claiming that you always knew YOUR TEAM could take down the big bad Yankees.

          Nice try though loser. Also nice to know that a “troll” can bother you so much. JJJerkoff is going to stop worshiping you if you don’t grow a pair anytime soon.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Record time.

            • jjyank

              Sure must be easy from his mom’s basement.

              Also, I love how even with my scaled back commenting, some idiot still thinks he’s cool by attacking actual fans who comment on actual baseball stuff. What a sad, sad life that must be.

          • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

            That’s as maybe. You’re still a troll.

            • jjyank

              The amount of sand in this guy’s vagina must be…staggering.

              • Cool Lester Smooth

                My sources tell me that his vagina is currently grittier than a Frank Miller comic.

                • Preston

                  Not quite as gritty as Kevin Towers likes it!

          • Havok9120

            Egads.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              It seems like he’s having a ton of fun. Let’s not stop him. Mom’s basement. Marlinz rule. jjyank on my nuts.

              The quickness of the reply now has me thinking it’s just a regular fucking with me. This would be Bad News Mustang’s “Bad News” tomorrow.

          • Dalek Jeter

            Whithin an hour. Damn dude, do you have like something tracking his IP that lets you know when he posts things?

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Well, that’d be next to impossible to do with me.

              • OB/GYN Kenobi, bushmaster

                Not for Axisa…

    • Paisa

      If only they hadn’t cancelled the World Series that year.

    • losealot101

      little known fact: boone and dent share the same middle name.

      • vicki

        pretty widely known fact up boston way.

        • eselquetodolosabe

          Vicki, you are the *bleeping best !

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    Ryan Roberts was cut by the Cubs, I believe. Decent infield, hits lefties, looks like CM Punk. Worth adding to the depth pile? Who wouldn’t want to have Brian AND Ryan Roberts?

    • MPierce

      Would definitely like to add him. He mashes the lefties.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Worth adding to the depth pile? If he can repeat what he did last season against LHP he should be signed and stuck on the bench as the back up infielder and platoon partner with Johnson.

      2013 vs LHP: .305/.345/.500 slash .368 wOBA 139 wRC+
      career vs LHP: .266/.341/.444 slash .342 wOBA 111 wRC+

      Plus, like you said, he looks like CM Punk and we could have a Ryan Roberts to Brian Roberts start to the 5-4-3. I’d be totally on board.

    • BFDeal

      Can Sizemore use him as a bat?

    • vicki

      this has ninja written all over it.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        It’s settled, then. Why isn’t he signed yet, Cash?

        • mustang

          They talking as we speak and looking at who to cut from the 40.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      Gimme.

  • I’m One

    Too many Roberts’ (Roberts’s? Robert’s?) :-)

    • I’m One

      Reply fail to Jorge.

    • vicki

      robertses, of course.

      • Dalek Jeter

        They both look like they get dirty on the ball field too, so as Smeagol would say, “filthy Robertses.”

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          This, and Jimmy’s comment, made me really desperately want this to be a thing now.

      • Eselquetodolosabe

        No, no…. Rosetta knows best…. Too many Roberticos.

      • Jimmy

        Nasty little robertses.

        • MPierce

          +Infinity. Well done.

          • OB/GYN Kenobi, bushmaster

            Ahhhhhh. Rings love.

  • Eselquetodolosabe

    And The Rays respond to Detroit’s extension of Miggy, for all the money in the world……”that’s not the way this works, that’s not the way any of this works !!!” Ichiro good day at the plate, and Zoilo sent down (wink, wink). Ichiro, you’re greasing the skids to your own demise…… And a trade in 3,2,…..

    • Dalek Jeter

      I love that commercial a lot more than I should.

      • Eselquetodolosabe

        Ok DJ, you asked for it ! I….Un-friend you !

        • Dalek Jeter

          Oh. I’m so putting this on my wall *prints out thread. tapes it on wall.*

  • Dalek Jeter

    So, I’m watching the encore on YES. I’m encouraged by what I know the final results have been for CC, but if I’m being honest with myself…he’s allowing a decent amount of hard contact that just happens to be at/near defenders.

  • Weird Al Yangervis Solarte

    Sooo-Larte! Oh, oh! Solarte, oh, oh, oh, oh!

    • Yankee$

      Shit. If he ever sticks in the bigs I’m going to be humming this song for his every AB. Thanks Weird Al.

      • vicki

        my section at the boss sang it loudly and often a couple weeks ago. good times.

        • Yankee$

          This is a real thing? I thought Weird Al was writing a new song.

      • OB/GYN Kenobi, bushmaster

        Sterling’s HR call for him is in here somewhere.

  • CountryClub

    @Buster_ESPN: Haven’t heard as much disgust over a contract from rival execs since the Jayson Werth contract. Industry is in shock over the Cabrera deal.

    • mustang

      All I want to hear until opening day is how the Tigers are ruining the game.

      • OB/GYN Kenobi, bushmaster

        Verlander’s comment pissed me off. He said that unlike the Yankees, the Tigers don’t have an unlimited budget. So he likes the signing because they are smart in how they spend their money.

        LOLWUT?

        Perhaps Justin hasn’t noticed that our payroll has been essentially flat for nearly a decade. Or that the Yankees no longer have the highest payroll in MLB. Or that fat fuck Cabrera is going to severely hamstring that payroll and roster when he’s making $30 million/year at age 40.

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          Verlander knows he won’t be around for the last 3-4 years of that deal :)

    • Dalek Jeter

      At least the Werth deal had a deeper meaning behind it, along with the Zimmerman extension it showed other free agents the at-the-time frugal and terrible Nationals were open for business at a legitimate MLB franchise. This is just the Tigers throwing like, ALL THE MONEY, at a guy through now what looks like his age 42 season depending on these options that BFDeal and Preston just brought up.

      • Fin

        Its just mind blowing. They are essentially paying that much for a DH, who even playing DH will have all kinds of health issues. It may be just me, but it doesn’t even seem like a risk on the Tigers part, as risk implies, that things can go right, but they might not. I don’t see any case scenario in which things go right with this contract. Have you ever seen a guy this fat in his mid 30s and early 40s, they all have health issues, and they aren’t playing 162 games of professional baseball. Knees and back issues are a certainty.

        • Dalek Jeter

          The only guy that big that I can think of having sustained success into his late 30s is Ortiz, and I still believe that he hasn’t exactly done it by himself if you catch my meaning. Also, there is NO WAY David Ortiz is only 230 pounds. I’m not skinny at 218 and he’s like…another half of me.

          • mustang

            THIS!!!!!

            Dalek Jeter once again making commenting easy for all.

          • Fin

            Ortiz came to mind when I was commenting, but I dint think it was a fair comparison as Ortiz is a big thick dude and sure a little fat, but nothing like Cabrera. Every time I watch a Tigers game, it sticks out to me how fat Cabrera is. I watch a lot of Tigers games too, because I absolutely love watching Cabrera hit. Its like watching Cano, but 2x as good, which is down right amazing. The only guy I enjoyed watching as much and probably more, is Bonds.

          • OB/GYN Kenobi, bushmaster

            I’d even argue that I’d rather pay Ortiz $30mm for a season today than I would agree to pay Cabrera $30mm for a season 10 years (!!!!!!!!!) from now. Yes, even including TVM.

            At least we know that Ortiz has made it this far (regardless of the fact that he’s had “help” along the way). Cabrera? In a few years his knees will be lucky to get him to 1B on a liner into the gap.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          He’s not a DH. He’s a not-terrible 1B, and he should be decent considering the weight he lost for the switch to 3B.

          • Deathstroke Heathcott

            Right now? Sure. 3-4 years down the line? Who knows? 9-10 years down the line? Not a chance.

            • Preston

              Fielding be damned. He might still be a good enough hitter (and salaries might inflate enough) to be worth it.

              • Fin

                Don’t know if you’re playing devils advocate or what, but if you believe the dude isn’t that fat, and its a good investment, I think you are in the very large minority.

                • OB/GYN Kenobi, bushmaster

                  I think that’d be a small minority :)

  • mustang

    This year I will introduce GOOD IDEA BAD IDEA.

    Today’s GOOD IDEA from Jorge Steinbrenner:
    “Ryan Roberts was cut by the Cubs, I believe. Decent infield, hits lefties, looks like CM Punk. ”

    Today’s BAD IDEA from the Detroit Tigers:
    “With ten years and $292MM in overall future commitments to Cabrera, the Tigers stand to owe him more than any team has ever owed a single player at any point in time…..commitment from this point forward could reach $352MM over twelve years”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8PhzrmBgMI

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I look forward to making both ends of this.

    • Alkaline

      This has great potential! Animaniacs inspired!

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        There’s boloney in our slacks.

      • mustang

        Yakko, Wakko, and little sister Dot or you can call her by her full name Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca Banana Fanna Bo Besca the Third

      • mustang

        And like Miguel Cabrera an iron-clad contract, but theirs probably makes more sense.

    • Havok9120

      I approve.

    • OB/GYN Kenobi, bushmaster

      Excellent. After last year’s Boars Head awards I’ve been waiting for this year’s version.

      Excellent!

      Thus my FotD™ for today: there will be days with no good ideas.

  • sevrox

    Glad Z-Alm got sent down – good to reward great springs with a demotion and Suzuki’s still on the team. Yes, Suzuki’s been demoted to usage of his last name.

    • Steve (different one)

      Even better to not make too many decisions based on minuscule samples in meaningless exhibition games.

      The Yankees have 4 starting caliber OFers. The 5th OFer is not going to play very much. Why would you want Almonte sitting on the bench all the time instead of playing everyday in AAA?

      I am guessing he will get another opportunity at some point this year.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I forgot about Soriano for a second and was going to say “If Ichiro is a starting caliber outfielder I am The Atlantic caliber writer/editor.”

    • Alkaline

      So you prefer to DFA Ichiro to use Zoila in a limited bench role where he wouldn’t get as consistent playing time as if he started in AAA which would benefit his staying sharp and honing his skills?

  • Get Phelps Up

    Wow, Miggy’s deal could end up being worth over $100M more than ARod’s.

  • Alkaline

    I just read the game thread and saw the explanation for Stairs. While I knew that was the origin of it, it makes me sad as I always associate the guy with Stairs now. However, I can’t mention it to friends or anyone in RL as no one knows what the hell I’m talking about, but I still find it so entertaining.

    • Havok9120

      Stairs is definitely one of the better recent memes.

      Who else got hurt in the bullpen competition that ST? There was at least one beyond Robertson.

      • Get Phelps Up

        Wasn’t that the spring of Joba and the trampoline?

        • forensic

          Yup. Also Pineda and Cabral himself. I’m actually scrolling through those pages now to see who else. Certainly lesser guys too, like Manny Delcarmen.

          • http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=179&iso=20140401T19&year=2014&month=4&day=1&hour=19&min=0&sec=0&msg=Opening%20Day! Get Phelps Up

            You mean Future NL Closer Manny Delcarmen right?

            Also that spring Hideki Okajima failed his physical!

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Don’t feel bad for Cabral. Feel bad for Matt Stairs.

    • forensic

      And just to complete it all, here’s the first mention of it:

      http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....nt-3917190

      Two years later it’s still coming up, I guess Cris was wrong with this one:

      http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....nt-3934093

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Funny…..that’s now even how I remembered it starting, but it totally is.

        Also, in the never-ending changing of screen names, I’ve completely lost track of who MBW is now.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          “not even”

        • Get Phelps Up

          Farewell Mo?

          • Dalek Jeter

            That actually makes…so much sense.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Nah. MBW knew I wouldn’t get into it with him the way I did with Farewell Mo initially.

      • I’m One

        Blasphemy! Cris was never wrong! In the grand scheme of things, the new name will be short lived (like, when comparing it to a lifetime or eternity).

      • Dalek Jeter

        Why would you post these?! I wanted to sleep tonight damnit! (no I clearly didn’t, I’m reading old RAB threads at 1230.)

  • Get Phelps Up

    Karim Garcia in action at the Ballpark in Arlington.

  • forensic

    So, the Tigers sure were determined to spend that money this offseason. It must’ve been burning a hole in their pocket after the failed Scherzer extension.

    I agree with NP&H above, this seems very unnecessary at this price and this point in time.

    • Get Phelps Up

      They felt sorry for the Angels owing $30M a year to 40 year old Pujols.

    • Havok9120

      Miggy’s current contract was pretty much perfect for the Tigers. I have no idea what they think they’re doing here by not at least starting the new deal this season.

      I think the old man just doesn’t like his next of kin.

      • Preston

        Maybe this expenditure will put his estate in a different tax bracket?

  • Yankee$

    What’s the verdict on Ryan Roberts? Sign him? DFA Claiborne? Platoon RR at 3B and 2B? Anna to AAA. Next decision May 1 on Sizemore.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      With Roberts AND Sizemore, we could win the NCAA Tournament and Stanley Cup.

  • Get Phelps Up

    http://www.blessyouboys.com/20.....-extension

    Surprisingly, the Tiger faithful seem to have a generally positive take on this.

    • vicki

      i cried for joy upon the a-rod contract.

      joy.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Right? I was so worried that they were going to lose him, but we didn’t!

        In my defense, I was in high school at the time.

        • Get Phelps Up

          I also thought it was great. The longer a player is under contract for, the better. But I was even younger than you – not even in high school yet then. I don’t think I fully understood that players declined yet.

          Of course the difference with Miggy is that he’s not a free agent.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            It might have been 8th grade, actually.

          • Fin

            The other differences are that hes not in good shape, or even bad shape, hes in horrendous shape. The steroid era isn’t running rampant and payers aren’t dominating into their 40s. Cabrera is a poor fielding 1st baseman not a good third baseman. As little of a chance that people thought that Arod wouldnt be a disaster there is less of a chance that Cabrera wont be a disaster. All that being said at least he wont be a circus freak show like ARod.

            • I’m One

              players aren’t dominating into their 40s.

              Mo and, to a lesser extent, Andy Pettitte take exception to this. (Granted, they were both in phenomenal shape.)

              • Fin

                LOL, nice. The problem is Petite is a known PED user, and certainly wasn’t close to dominating. The other is a one in the history of MLB player. As you said both were in phenomenal shape, which may have something to do with why they could still play at such high levels. Both are pitchers, where is our 40 year old position player. I guess the closest is Ortiz but hes a DH.

                • Fin

                  I meant to say, Ortiz is also only 37. Could be 5 more years of 30m for Miggy when he hits that age.

                • I’m One

                  Derek Jeter will say hello at the end of the season. :-)

                  I’m counting on him to put up another season of a .300+ average, with around 10 hrs, adequate defense (which is probably more than will be said for Miggy, even as he approaches 35.) He’ll dominate (OK, not really dominate, but be good compared to other SS). And if he doesn’t do this, well, I’m running our of recent comparisons and don’t care to look it up (gotta leave for work).

                  Anyway. Mo could have played CF! :-)

            • New Guy

              Dude get off of his body already. I think we all understand that you think Miggy is fat. Lets move on.

      • Preston

        I was very upset. I thought we were going to let him walk and trade for Miggy instead…

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          See, 13 year old me didn’t realize that that was a possibility.

          Oh, what might have been! That left side of the infield would have been something to behold.

  • Wheels

    Arizona vs. San Diego State at 10:00 should be a good game. TBS

  • vicki
    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      So much URL.

      Googling “Scott Sizemore wife” just leads to the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue.

      • Preston

        Try “Scott Sizmore’s wives”, it takes a harem to satisfy a mountain of a man like that.

  • Eselquetodolosabe

    Looking at high payroll teams – in all sports – and comparing these to the lean, mean, well run teams – i.e., Rays, Cards, Spurs, Patriots, etc…,- makes it easy to appreciate those front offices that do more with less. Of course it doesn’t hurt to have a Popovich and Duncan, or a Belichick and Brady, etc, etc,…..but never-the-less, these teams/front offices have a philosophy that they adhere to, and rarely deviate from. And giving out 300mm dollar contracts to “1” player, is sure not part of that philosophy. Anyways, there I go with my socialist rant. Che Guevara lives bitches !

    • Wheels

      Fidel, is that you? :)

    • Preston

      I sure don’t know how the Patriots or Spurs fit into this. Both operate in leagues with caps. Tim Duncan got a max contract. Tom Brady was the highest paid player at one point (until the next big name quarterback signed). I don’t see how it correlates to baseball. Even the Cardinals operate on a totally different payroll structure than the Rays. I mean they are in the top half of the league in payroll and nearly double the Rays payroll.

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    It’s pretty great to watch the optimism on all the Tigers’ fans boards.

    Reminds me of the Pujols contract.
    Reminds me of the Uggla contract.
    Reminds me of the Votto contract.

    So which organization is more stupid, the one that gives A-Rod a mega-contract, gets an MVP performance and a World Series,

    or all those that hand out albatross contracts afterwards?

    But I’m sure they’re all right. The Yankees are such a loser organization.

    • BFDeal

      Some of the reasoning on twitter by Tiger fans is just hilarious. One reasoned “the more his salary increases; the more valuable he is”.

      • Tanuki Tanaka

        Well to be fair, if you had two vases that are exactly the same, one you bought for 100 bucks and the other one you bought it for 50, technically now one of them is the 100-dollar vase and the other one is 50-dollar vase =)

  • vicki

    so, who is an espn insider? i read the BP response to an espn the magazine article claiming to quantify team chemistry. it sounds like russell carleton made all the smart points about this new “metric” but i HAVE to know about the rankings and, especially, what these “scientists” figured for the yanks. apparently their model projects 1.7 extra wins for the rays. (DUH.)

    help!

  • Dalek Jeter

    So…I was just thinking, the Miguel Cabrera trade has to be one of most one sided of all time. The only ones that the Marlins got to really even make the majors were Maybin and Miller.

    • vicki

      i was thinking about this recently, after the lopsided fister trade (though i suppose time will tell exactly how lopsided it was).

      besides the miggy trade, in no particular order: bagwell to houston; randy johnson et al. to seattle; pedro to montreal; mcguire to the cards; smoltz to atlanta.

      babe ruth!

      • forensic

        How dare you leave out Varitek and Lowe for Slocumb!

        • vicki

          yeah, yeah.

      • Fin

        Pineda to the Yankees :}

      • D$1184

        Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps.