Open Thread: 3/6 Camp Notes

Reviewing the Yankees' 2013 international signings
Mailbag: Clemens, Ichiro, Bullpen, Wang, Tanaka

Following a 90-minute rain delay, the Yankees got back into the win column with a 4-3 come-from-behind victory over the Phillies this afternoon. Masahiro Tanaka made his second appearance (first start) of the spring, allowing a solo homer in three otherwise strong innings. He struck out one, walked zero, and recorded seven outs on the ground compared to one in the air. Pretty good day if you ask me.

In their first games of the spring, both Mark Teixeira (wrist) and Alfonso Soriano (flu) went 0-for-3. Soriano struck out all three times. Derek Jeter went 2-for-3 with a ground ball single and a line drive double, which were his first base hit and first ball hit in the air of the spring, respectively. Kelly Johnson had two more hits to continue his nice spring. Ramon Flores crushed a solo homer and had the go-ahead sac fly in the eighth, capping a rally created by Gary Sanchez (single) and Jose Pirela (double). Here’s the box score and here’s the rest from a rainy day in Tampa.

  • Today was the first of the Yankees’ seven spring games with the expanded replay system, but there was some kind of electrical problem, so it wasn’t available. Go figure. The Phillies tried to challenge a play but couldn’t.
  • CC Sabathia threw his simulated game as scheduled, presumably indoors given the weather. He unveiled a new cutter during the session, a pitch he learned from Andy Pettitte. “He showed me the grip for the cutter. I used it [Thursday] and I am going to take it into the game.,” said Sabathia. [George King]
  • Manny Banuelos will throw an inning in Saturday’s game. It will be his first real game action in about 20 months due to elbow problems. Tyler Austin (wrist) hit off a tee as he works his way back from lingering soreness. [Chad Jennings]
  • And, just in case you were worried, Joe Girardi confirmed that Carlos Beltran was scratched from this afternoon’s game because of the weather. He’s not hurt, they just don’t want him and knees on the wet outfield. [Bryan Hoch]

This is your open thread for the night. This afternoon’s Yankees game will not re-air anywhere, but MLB Network is showing Dodgers-Angels on tape delay later tonight, if you’re interested. The Nets are playing as well. Talk about whatever here. Go nuts.

Reviewing the Yankees' 2013 international signings
Mailbag: Clemens, Ichiro, Bullpen, Wang, Tanaka
  • Eselquetodolosabe

    Any idea what Tanaka’s homerun pitch was ? Looked flat and straight. Change-up maybe ?

    • Mike Axisa

      It looked like a fastball right down the middle.

      • pat

        Catcher set up over the outside corner, was in the process of reaching back to the middle of the plate before it met a swift demise by a guy who looks like he was sitting dead red.

      • Jag

        Flail and panic!!


        Weren’t his scouting reports reporting that his fastball was a bit flat?

        • CountryClub


        • Wicomico Pinstripes

          Yeah, his fastballs are a bit flat. One would think that it makes the split that much harder to pick up.

          Speaking of the split, he bounced a few pretty short of home plate that had me a bit ST concerned until he made Utley look quite foolish.

          • RetroRob

            It was his first start of Spring Training. I doubt any of his pitches are in top form yet, especially command wise.

            • Wicomico Pinstripes

              I’m in complete agreement. Hence the spring training level of concern.

      • Eselquetodolosabe

        Thanks Mike. Didn’t see a jugs for speed, but it looked like an 88 mph, all you can eat buffet. Probably a learning moment for him; this ain’t Japan, mistakes get hit hard, and sometimes…. Very long.

        • CountryClub

          A scout supposedly had him at 90 – 94 today.

      • forensic

        Yup, 3-1 fastball right down the middle, just didn’t want to walk the guy. Galvis just did with it what he should. The only other really bad one was the hanging slider to Byrd and he ripped it to the gap.

        Can’t complain too much about those at this point in the Spring. Bad pitches are gonna happen, just want to minimize it and hope the batter doesn’t do their job.

        • stuckey

          “Can’t complain too much about those at this point in the Spring … or the regular season … or the post-season. Bad pitches are gonna happen, just want to minimize it and hope the batter doesn’t do their job.”


    • nyyankfan_7

      Jack Parkman named it the masturbator.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    The only context where Chris Stewart will ever appear on leaderboards:


    • vicki

      i saw that BP article yesterday. amazingly cool stuff.

      “And then there’s the list of the worst-rated receivers on a rate basis, which includes more than a few Mariners.” i laughed.

    • Tanuki Tanaka (Formerly Bob Buttons)

      Kinda surprised to see McCann’s name on that BP thing.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Why? McCann’s been regarded as an elite pitch framer for several years.

        Honestly, the fact that he’s an elite offensive catcher is almost besides the point.

  • Bo Knows

    I think Tanaka looked good but I do think the wet mound/weather affected his command, he shanked his splitter several times. what was more impressive was that his fastball showed a little run

    • pat

      Yeah, def looks like it gets a little armside run. May not have a ton of vertical movement (which remains to be seen), but it definitely moves in towards rhb.

    • forensic

      He throws a two-seamer in addtion to the four-seamer. The ones running in that direction could’ve be some of those too, which is what leads to some of his groundouts.

      • Wicomico Pinstripes


        His four-seamer is pretty straight. Pretty easy to discern it from the two-seamer.

  • TWTR

    Andrew Marchand
    Ryan Howard on Tanaka: “His split finger is going to be a force to be reckon with”

  • nycsportzfan

    5inn 4hit 1er 4k 0bb- Very solid spring for Tanaka so far.

  • nycsportzfan

    Could have a nice homegrown 8th/9th inn combo with Dellin and D-Rob. We’ve really gotten very good pitching and pretty solid hitting all spring. Loving this team.

    • Tanuki Tanaka (Formerly Bob Buttons)

      Early nomination of nickname: Dynamite Duo

      • Alkaline

        I fully endorse this.

      • nycsportzfan


  • forensic

    Cool that Saturday’s game is being televised. At least we get to see Banuelos’ inning, as opposed to Pineda tomorrow.

    • Tanuki Tanaka (Formerly Bob Buttons)

      Conspiracy theory: he will not pitch in televised spring games this year.

      • forensic

        I’ve already brought that theory up and wouldn’t be surprised in the least if they’re trying to keep him away from those type of things, especially the radar guns.

        His next start could be telling on this issue. That one would be on the 12th, which is televised on YES. Will they leave Kuroda on his turn and just throw Pineda in another sim-game? Will they push Pineda and have him start one of the SS games on the 13th (one on YES, one on

      • RetroRob

        …and all radar guns will be confiscated at the front entrance.

  • OldYanksFan

    “Three weeks ago, I received a call from Taiwan [where he hit .352 with eight homers and 43 RBIs in 49 games] to check if I wanted to return there, but I feel I can still help in MLB, in a role similar to Jason Giambi in Cleveland, for example,” [Manny] Ramirez said. “If it is God’s will, I could play in MLB this season. I just need a team to open the doors. I can help in the field and in the clubhouse for the younger guys.”


    • Preston


    • Tanuki Tanaka (Formerly Bob Buttons)

      but I feel I can still help in MLB

      Guess he ain’t signing with the Astros.

    • NCS

      I’m guessing ‘in the field’ is a bad translation.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      “I can help…in the clubhouse for the younger guys”


  • Chris

    Wait… Andy’s cutter/slider?

    So the legacy of Lyle’s slider continues huh? That’s awesome.

    Lyle- Guidry/Righetti- Pettitte- Sabathia

    42 years and counting of confusing hitters. That’s been the signature pitch of Yankees lefties since 1972.

    • Kevin

      That is an awesome little fact nugget, thanks for that!

    • forensic

      What about the 4 year gap between Rags and Pettitte? Not to mention the 3 yeas in Houston and 1 year of retirement for Pettitte?

      • RetroRob

        Kill joy!

        I originally was thinking he was referring to there being a 42 year connection, with the pitch being handed down from one to the other, but that doesn’t quite add up. Lyle did teach Guidry how to throw the slider, who in turn worked with Righetti, and I’m pretty sure Rags worked with Leiter on what became his cutter/slider. I don’t know of the connection to Pettitte since Leiter was long gone. Maybe Guidry worked with him as an instructor, but I’ve never heard that mentioned.

        I suspect the direct link from pitcher to pitcher ended with Leiter.

        • Chris

          Guidry taught Pettitte when he our pitching coach for that brief time.

          Yeah, don’t mean there was a seamless connection, I just mean that the pitch has been passed down like a Yankee tradition from dominant lefty to dominant lefty. Just really cool fun fact.

          • Chris

            Or maybe pring training instructor would make more since, since Pettitte was throwing it by then. I’ll see if I can find a link.

  • TWTR

    Frank Jobe, pioneer in the field of sports medicine who performed 1st elbow surgery that resurrected career of major league pitchers, dies at 88 – @AP

    This guy may have contributed more to baseball than any executive, manager, coach, or player.

    Rest in peace.

    • forensic

      Doesn’t even get the surgery named after him. Instead it’s the pitcher’s name.

      Even Jobe’s wikipedia page has a picture of Tommy John instead of his own pitcure. Poor guy just can’t get the credit he deserves.

      • Wicomico Pinstripes

        For shame.

      • Wheels

        They could change it from the Cy Young Award to the Frank Jobe Award.

      • whozat

        It’s wikipedia; you can fix it!

        • forensic

          It’s not that it’s wrong, like they’re trying to say the picture is Jobe when it’s actually a picture of John. It’s just that since it’s Tommy John surgery, they have his picture but don’t even have one of Jobe among his bio info at the top, right.

          And I don’t know if Wheels was being sarcastic, but I was actually pretty serious that if the surgery is going to be named after someone, it should be after the guy who invented it, not the guy that it was done on.

          • Wheels

            No, I wasn’t really being serious about changing the name of the award, but I’m with you that he deserves greater name recognition for his impact on baseball. It’s good to see that the New York Times currently has his obituary featured on their home page at the very least.

            • Wheels

              Quite an obituary I might add, Jobe was at the Battle of the bulge in WW2.

  • lightSABR

    A post and 30 comments, and nobody’s mentioned Sizemore’s double yet. What’s wrong with you people?

    • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

      Some of us simply don’t find a guy coming off an almost 2 year layoff who only allegedly has an ACL and was never all that impressive to begin with to be that intriguing.

      That being said, I would be happy if he continues to hit and earns a spot on the team. Of course it’s still very early but it looks like Noonny Scissorhands is leading the chase for backup IF at the moment.

      • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

        I’m not sure why I elected to go with “Noonny” instead of “Nuney” but I suppose logic mustn’t not apply to anything egarding Eduardo Nunez.

  • NCS

    “Soriano struck out all three times.”

    I find this strangely encouraging. Hasn’t let the flu and the late start mess with his approach.

    • forensic

      lol, ouch.

    • Jedile

      Yeah cause if walked all three times then it might be cause for concern!

  • M. Harris

    Any idea why MT seemed to have an inordinate amount of “55 footers” today ? Seemed odd to me.