Mar
30

Sunday Night Open Thread

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Spring Training is technically over, but Michael Pineda did not join the rest of the Yankees on their trip to Houston last night, instead staying behind in Tampa so he could throw in a minor league game this morning. According to Erik Boland, Pineda struck out eight and allowed one run on three hits and three walks in six innings. It was his final tune-up before his first start of the regular season next Saturday, his first MLB start in more than two years.

Here is your open thread for the night. The regular season (re)starts tonight with the Dodgers and Padres on ESPN’s Sunday Night Baseball at 8pm ET. Hyun-Jin Ryu and Brandon McCarthy is your pitching matchup. The (hockey) Rangers, Knicks, and Nets are also playing. Talk about anything you like right here. Enjoy.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew) RIP Egon

    Will Pineda be in Houston at all? He has to be right?

    • forensic

      He likely doesn’t necessarily have to be, but he will be, and there’s no reason for him not to be. He’s on a plane now, along with Girardi, Cashman, Rothschild, and Eppler.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew) RIP Egon

    Also TWD Finale in tonight followed by HIMYM series finale tomorrow. Ugh I am not ready!

    • Alkaline

      So. Close.

    • vicki

      people i otherwise respect told me to watch ‘how i met your mother’ so i gave it a shot. that central character guy is so pussy i couldn’t take it. i sincerely do not get the appeal.

      • forensic

        Is it sad that I can’t picture Neil Patrick Harris as anything other than Doogie Howser?

        • vicki

          yes. yes it is.

        • Mykey

          Clearly he should be remembered solely for his role as the psychic in Starship Troopers.

      • Fin

        To me watching a Neil Patrick Harris play a womanizer, is like watching Shia labuff as tough guy action hero. Its just not in the least bit believable.

        • vicki

          it’s the other guy who makes me want to throw my tv out the window. i don’t know if it’s the actor or the writing – probably both – but the result is repulsive.

          • sevrox

            Best episode was when Swisher was on – only time I’ve ever watched due to its banal writing. Kind of concerns me how long the show has been on and if that’s the quality of entertainment tbe American public goes for . . .

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    I seem to remember there was supposed to be a roster move for Solarte by 3 PM. Did I miss something? Cause it’s 6:22 PM EDT.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Marly~ESPN Deportes
      ?@MarlyRiveraESPN
      Brian Cashman confirms Yankees 40-man roster move does not have to happen until Tuesday; if I had to guess… Nick Turley to 60-day DL

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

        Alright.

        My guess is Turley to 60DL as well.

      • forensic

        I hope he’s wrong about Turley. All the reports have been that there’s nothing structurally wrong and he would just be shut down for a couple weeks as a precaution (though the couple weeks have basically ended already). If he is DL’ed, then it may mean there’s something more serious wrong (cue the comparison to Banuelos and his very delayed TJ surgery/discovery) with him and that could hurt their depth as he (or maybe Greene) was likely their best option in AAA should they have needed a starter (other than the various veteran dreck they have there now).

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          The timeline for him pitching in general wouldn’t necessarily have to change that much with a 60-day DL stint.
          The DL-stint can be backdated (7 days I think), and a 30-day rehab assignment is allowed for pitchers, so technically he could spend the next few weeks in EST, which he likely would anyways since he missed regular spring training, and then resume pitching in the minors as part of his rehab assignment.

          The only real downside is he could possibly be ready and needed in the majors before the 60-days is up.

          Or the injury could be more severe than we know about.
          Or it could be an entirely different 40-man roster move.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          If you’re right, then that’s definitely not going to be the move. I’ve been leaning towards a Claiborne DFA myself since last night as the move.

          I think it’s more likely you’d see veteran dreck get the callup anyway unless someone really takes that step forward early on.

          • kenthadley

            In the past few days about a half dozen or more “Claiborne Class” pitchers have been DFA’d, so it might be a good time to slip him thru to AAA.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              And, even if you can’t, you can always claim one of the others to take his place.

              • Cheval Anonyme

                But… if you claim a DFA, don’t you have to… add him to the 40 man roster?????

                • forensic

                  lol, yup.

                • Ed

                  You can claim guys and DFA them immediately. If they make it through that time, you can send them to AAA. The Blue Jays did it a lot last year to beef up the AAA roster.

    • forensic

      It doesn’t make sense, but apparently they don’t have to make a 40-man move until Tuesday (though the 25-man had to be set by today).

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        I don’t think Solarte is officially on the 25-man roster yet (at least he’s not listed on the active roster on their website).
        Ryan is listed on the active roster though.

        It might be that they don’t have to officially add Solarte until they officially put Ryan on the DL, which would just have to happen sometime before the first game.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    Also it’s Andrew Cashner, not Brandon McCarthy starting (remember, McCarthy plays for ARI).

  • forensic

    So, ESPN’s ‘experts’ are just as good at predicting the winner of the NCAA Tournament as they are at predicting World Series Champions.

    Every one of their TV people on ESPN and ESPNU on Selection Sunday said Michigan State would win it all.

    Oops…

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Argh.

      I’m down to one possible correct Final Four team after riding sky high with one of my ballots. At least I can now root for UConn in peace.

  • vicki

    cool video. i still get choked up over the Farewell Andy stuff, even more than Farewell Mo. i think because our faces were rubbed in the latter on a daily basis all season long; not so the former. (not taking aim at sacred cows or anything, after last night’s controversy.)

  • Grit for Brains

    I think its weird how one year can completely change perception.

    The Red Sox are by most “expert” predictions the top gun in the AL East or at least certainly right there but they have a lessor roster than they did last year when nobody predicted very much.

    The Yanks have a far superior roster to what they had last year but the predictions seem less than they were a year ago.

    Just gotta play the games.

    • vicki

      is it fair to say nobody expected much of the sox last year? i did, and my opinions aren’t divinely inspired. plus i remember a poll conducted during that first series where people overwhelmingly picked boston to win the division. maybe the only two choices were yanks and red sox; can’t recall.

      i think most casual observers expected bj’s/nats in the series. but considering the yankees’ injuries, on day one of the season you had to be a dreamer to expect new york to finish better than boston.

    • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew) RIP Egon

      I 100% agree with you. Mike Napoli and Shane Victorino playing up to the levels they played last year? Doubtful. Grazy Sizemore as the starting CF? Come on, what happened to Jackie Bradley Jr aka the next superstar CF? Every team has it holes, the Yankees have a ton of them but holy crap everyone stop saying the Red Sox are the runaway favorite in the AL.

      • forensic

        Napoli has had two other seasons even better than last year. I don’t think repeating it is all that crazy.

        I mostly agree about Victorino and the doubt of Sizemore/Bradley.

      • Get Phelps Up

        Relying on old and broken down players is a surefire way for failure…unless those players are David Ortiz and Grady Sizemore.

      • Fin

        Well 2 things. 1) Bogearts could be better than Drew was last year, seems to be a serious possibility that this guy is the next superstar SS. 2) The Sox have a shit ton of money to spend under $189 and a shit ton of prospects to trade.

        I think if things don’t go the Yankees way, they are in trouble. If things don’t go the Sox way, they can fix it in season.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          He could just as easily be in AAA by June.

          • Fin

            You want to make a bet which way it will go?

      • pft2

        Napoli was in danger of being benched in late August coming off an awful 3 months. Had a great last 6 weeks, in part due to Yankee pitching

    • BrianMcCannon

      It is pretty mind-boggling. Maybe I’m wrong but I remember so many analysts pegging the Sox for a last place finish last season.

    • vicki
      • Grit for Brains

        The same projection system had the Yankees finishing ahead of the Red Sox and taking the division by a comfortable margin. The Yankees then went on to greatly improve their roster this year but 2014 Pecota has the Red Sox finishing ahead of the Yankees which is kind of the point I’m making.

        • vicki

          at the start of last season the SPRiNG projections had a team that had won 69 games the previous year finishing about the same as a team that had won 95 (two wins better, actually). my point is that the better systems recognized that the sox had hugely improved and that the yankees were hobbled, if not decimated.

          i’ve been addressing this part of the original comment above:

          “…last year when nobody predicted very much [for boston].”

  • Wheels
    • forensic

      No smoking? Absolutely. No Drinking? Fine.

      No mah-jongg? That’s a deal-breaker, don’t you touch my mah-jongg!

      • Wheels

        Rules are rules…

    • Jarrod

      That is a great read, I love those human interest stories mixed with professional sport.

      I am always going to be worried about those workloads though, even if his major workloads were mainly in games and not as much during practice.

      • Wheels

        Yeah, crazy right? They sure don’t give a shit about maximum pitch counts in Japan it seems.

  • Reuben Sierra’s Chains

    Wouldn’t make more sense for this game to be played in LA tonight instead of SD

    • forensic

      Huh?

      • Reuben Sierra’s Chains

        I think because the Dodgers are the favorites to win it all they should get the first home game. Not have to play at SD. Plus they made the sacrifice to go over to Australia to play.

        • forensic

          I can kind of see your point with the Australia trip, but basing something like that on a few people thinking they’re the favorites? Plenty of people think the Cards are the favorites. Or the Rays, or Red Sox, or Tigers, or Nats, etc…

          How do they all get the first home game? Kershaw got hurt and changed some peoples minds. Do they need to change all the schedules after that?

          • Reuben Sierra’s Chains

            Yeah they do.

            Christ dude over think things much.

            Listen I just figured ESPN would want to open their Sunday Night coverage in LA rather then in SD. But by all means keep reaching here.

            • forensic

              ESPN has no say in who is at home for a particular game. Especially on opening day they just get whatever the league schedules for that night.

              And it’s not overthinking, it’s exactly what you said. The Rays are playing the Red Sox in the first series. How do they both get a home game?

              • forensic

                Sorry, disregard that last part, I was thinking of something else. But, the Cards and Reds play each other. People have picked both, how do they both get home openers?

        • Fin

          That’s stupid. So they should base the scheduling around who’s suppose to win? So who decides who the favorites are, and how much scheduling advantages do favorites get? They didn’t get back from Australia yesterday, they have been back for a week and I’m pretty sure they can withstand the 2hr commute to SD.

          • Reuben Sierra’s Chains

            Relax dude… Or go fuck yourself. Your choice.

            • Fin

              I was relaxed, Who are you tough guy?

            • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

              Hahaha

              “Everyone didn’t automatically agree with me, I can’t handle it!”

              • Jorge Steinbrenner

                Yeah, this is gold.

                I also think Fin was particularly frisky throughout replies at about 5:00 AM, which leads me to wonder what exactly Fin was doing at 5:00 AM.

                • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                  Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised reading through it this morning.

  • forensic

    Baseball’s starting for real, and yet we still have two full days until Yankees baseball. This Tuesday start to the season really sucks. They’re the only two teams not starting until then.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      Better than playing tomorrow and being off Tuesday.

      • forensic

        Eh, I just want Yankees baseball. Playing then being off isn’t that huge a deal.

        • forensic

          Plus, with Friday having not been televised and Saturday being rained out, it feels like it’ll have been forever since we saw them play.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Oh, I’d rather play tomorrow. I am READY.

      • Jarrod

        I agree. I’d rather wait the extra day and then enjoy 13(?) straight to get into the grind. I always feel like the game on, game off start to a season feels like a false start.

  • Yankeefan91

    Huge Yankee fan here i was just curious have any of ya been to Fenway Park im going to there home opener since my friend got me a free ticket can anyone tell me there experience there ?

    • kenthadley

      Was there for the 75 WS, game #2….fantastic experience. The Green Monster looks even closer in person than it does on TV. Don’t wear your Yankee hat, though.

      • Morneau After Pill

        I went to the last Yankees/Sox game at Fenway last season in full Yankees gear and no one said anything. I think you’ll be fine YankeeFan91

        • Kevin G.

          I kind of think it’s in bad taste to wear apparel of a team that’s not even playing that game.

    • Fin

      Bah, its like a football game in Philly, you cant wear your teams gear if you’re with your family, but wear the shit out of it, if your with your boys. They don’t fuck with guys ready to roll, just those that cant.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Just imagine how they feel when they wear full Sox gear and sit in section 203. Extrapolate that to an entire stadium.

      • Fin

        Yea, Yankees fans are such dueche bags, that you cant sit there with redsox hats….Been to plenty of games with Sox fans in those sections, all good. Don’t make a bigger thing out of it than it should be. Not going to get fucked with in NY, is not the same as not going to be fucked with in Boston.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          So have I. We often aren’t very kind. I’ll agree that, most of the time, it’s all taken in good humor.

    • pft2

      Don’t wear a Yankee hat/jersey and you will be fine. Some nice bars in the area and places to eat, parks ok but a lot depends on your seats.

      • Yankeefan91

        Seats are actually Great there by the dugout. Thanks for the info :)

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          No matter what, have fun. Wear your hat. Perhaps you’ll get some abuse, but whatever. You’ll live. We let them out of YS3 alive.

        • Darren

          If they still have Legends Seafood at Fenway, get the clam chowder (assuming it’s cold out). That chowdah is the shit! Or was, the last time I was in Fenway few years ago.

          • I’m One

            That would be Legal Seafood I believe. Haven’t been to Fenway, but went to one of the first Legal Seafood restaurants in Boston way back in the ’80s and loved it. I don’t think they’re quite as good now that they’ve expanded out, at least not the ones outside of the Boston area.

    • Yankeefan91

      Thanks For The Info Guys Really Appreciated.

  • forensic

    Wow Padres, that was pretty pitiful. Guess their fans might want to get used to that kind of failure though.

  • Sean C.

    Anyone watch games on Mlb tv on a PlayStation 4? I just picked one up and was really happy to see that I could download the application. Now all I need is The Show 14 to come out and I’m all set.

  • mustang

    Trailer is too cool.

    Hold on ladies and gentlemen this year is going to special….

    28TH HERE WE COME!!!!!!!

    2014 NEW YORK YANKEES!!!

  • vicki

    forenz, i forget: do you despise all things dodger, or just the manbear? for example, where do you come down on the subject of juan urine [sic]? me, i’ve come to love him.

    • forensic

      It’s mainly him. I can’t get myself to like for former Red Sox guys there, but there are things I like about them (although I typically wouldn’t root for them to win a game). I can’t really dislike guys like Kemp and Kershaw, and though I’m not sure I would want him managing the Yankees, I certainly can’t hate Mattingly.

      As for Uribe, eh, he only slightly even gets on my radar. Though I do hate his reaction to homers with the extreme recoil and often stare at them.

      • vicki

        i’ll always hate agone; he’s a baby with a 70s vagina on his face. and beckett is vile. but i’d like to see cc do well. he hated boston so much, and they him. my enemies’ enemies, all that.

  • JJ

    I’m going to be without cable for a solid month (whole of april), anyone know how I can watch Yankees games online (legally) while still in-market?

    • vicki

      it’s john & suzyn or the bars, i’m afraid.

      • forensic

        You’ll need the bar after listening to John and Suzyn, so might as well just kill two birds with one stone and hit the bar to begin with.

  • forensic

    #8 batter: first pitch pop up bunt foul and caught
    #9 batter: foul bunt, fake bunt/swing away, bunt foul for strike 3

    NL Baseball – Catch the Fever!!!

  • forensic

    YES! Great job Mr. Beard.

  • Get Phelps Up

    …And Ryu and my fantasy team lose their win.

    • vicki

      he deserved better. their bullpen is supposed to be an asset.

    • Jarrod

      Don’t fear the beard!

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    I honestly have nothing against the Dodgers, but I do get joy watching a man as hideously ugly as Brian Wilson get hammered to start the season like this.

    • forensic

      3 runs without recording an out! He’ll be working this off his ERA for a month or two. Awesome!

      • Get Phelps Up

        Forensic is pumped up.

        • forensic

          lol, sorry, he’s one of the Dodgers I can’t stand. And another one just screwed up that play.

    • vicki

      he’s not even that ugly.

      http://www.thinkbluela.com/wp-.....blrcom.jpg

      he’s just so. fucking. affected.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        What a nice, wholesome boy.

  • forensic

    Homerun, walk, 2-0 count and you still bunt away an out with your leadoff hitter (well, would’ve bunted away an out if Wilson didn’t suck).

    That’s really annoying.

    • forensic

      And see what can happen when you’re finally forced to take off the bunt.

      • vicki

        i’d like to thank the good lord for making me an american leaguer.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Amen.

  • vicki

    donnie just doesn’t have a feel for the pen. he almost blew the second game in australia too. the man knows everything about hitting; he literally wrote the book on hitting. he really should be a hitting coach. ambition kills.

    • Fin

      I’d like to thank the good lord for letting me read your love fest. I feel very lucky, and good advice to the guy going to Fenway for the first time. Nice job jerking each other off.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Someone jerked vicki off? Does she know?

  • villapalomares

    From Joe Sheehan:

    “18. New York Yankees (82-80; fourth, AL East; 704 RS, 683 RA). Remember that last year’s team was outscored by 21 runs; this prediction expects them to be a fundamentally better team, thanks in part to all the money spent on free agents. There were critical losses, though, in Robinson Cano, in Mariano Rivera, hell, even in a month of Alex Rodriguez, that cancel out a lot of the gains. The Yankees need half the roster to stop the clock and arrest steep declines, the ravages of age, and that’s asking too much. Even the position players they signed are risks for age-related decline. It all adds to up to far too much downside risk, and even 82-80 feels like an overbid.”

    This could be a long season.

    • vicki

      welp. same guy had the sox last in the division and the nats winning the series last year. so, yeah.

      http://nypost.com/2013/03/29/p.....edictions/

      • forensic

        I have no idea what article his thing is from (links help sometimes), but assuming he got the name right, his is from Joe Sheehan (of BP or SI or wherever he is now), not Joel Sherman of the Post.

        • vicki

          thanks for that (reading comprehension!). so, quick search yields from last year:

          “Well, this time, winning the winter also means winning the summer, as the Toronto Blue Jays ride their rebuilt starting rotation (R.A. Dickey, Josh Johnson, Mark Buehrle), their new leadoff hitter (Jose Reyes) and a terrific offense to their first World Series title since 1993.”

          and “after a decade of hegemony, age and questionable management push the Yankees and Red Sox down the totem pole and bring the game’s toughest division back to the pack. It’s still a strong group, but no longer clearly the best in the game — the NL East, AL West and NL West all vie for the title. The 2013 postseason is the first since 1993 with neither of the AL East’s scary monsters involved.”

          http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....-baseball/

          so, yeah.

          • vicki

            i like that an ALeast team wins the ship, but the division withdraws “back to the pack.” delightful.

            also, i realize i’m simultaneously undermining my earlier suggestion that the sox were generally considered a contender. i really do remember it that way.

    • pft2

      Said much about same about the Red Sox last year. Its fun to be an underdog and beat projections.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      162 games is a long time, isn’t it?

      I’m glad some folks enjoy projections and predictions. I’ve never cared one bit. Play the games. Don’t tell me what’s going to happen before they happen. One of the few old-school fan things about me.

      That’s not to say that I don’t deeply appreciate the value of good stats, of which it doesn’t seem Sheehan has any.

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

        My favorite part about stats is that anyone using them correctly will never pretend to be telling you exactly what’s going to happen. Any prediction/projection is just an expression of likelihood.

        Watching baseball would be silly if there were never anything unexpected/unpredicted.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Which is precisely why Nate Silver screwed my bracket. Damn you, Silver!!!!

          *shakes fist 538 times*