Apr
26

Jose Campos undergoes Tommy John surgery

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Right-hander Jose Campos underwent Tommy John surgery yesterday, the Yankees announced. He was said to be out with elbow inflammation, but obviously it was more serious than that. Campos is on the 40-man roster, so his spot will essentially be unusable like Manny Banuelos‘ last year.

Campos, 21, had a 3.41 ERA (3.11 FIP) in 87 closely-monitored innings for Low-A Charleston last season. He missed most of 2012 with a fracture in his elbow. Campos barely pitched in Spring Training and the Yankees were said to be taking it slow with him early this year, but I have to think the elbow’s been an issue for a few weeks now. You don’t just wake up one day and have Tommy John surgery. Oh well, see you next year, Jose.

Categories : Asides, Injuries, Minors
  • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

    Mike, when you say his spot is unusable, is that because they can’t 60-Day DL him because that would mean starting his service clock?

    • Bavarian Yankee

      I’d guess so, I can’t think of any other reason.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Yep. They’ve shown they’d rather burn the option than the year of service time. At this point the option is already burned because 20 days have passed.

      • Ed

        Since the option is already burned, I think that’s the right call. But if it wasn’t, burning the service time would probably be better. He pitched 87 innings at High A last year. Even without the TJS, I think the best case scenario had him getting a rotation spot in 2016.

        What’s a realistic development path for him now? 100 IP tops in 2015, maybe 140 IP in 2016, and then hope he can hold down the 5th starter spot when he’s out of options? Or do you just stick him in the bullpen when he returns from surgery and hope he makes it thru the minors quicker?

  • Bavarian Yankee

    :(

  • Dalek Jeter

    Why not just remove him from the 40 man? Who is going to claim somebody who is for all intents and purposes unusable until May/June 2015 at the absolute earliest, and when returns is still probably 2 or so years away from the majors if he heals well?

    • Bavarian Yankee

      to remove somebody from the 40 man you have to DFA him (or put him on the 60 day DL) and you’re not allowed to DFA injured players. Anybody would do it instead of putting players on the DL.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Can we just release him, then?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          He’s on the 40-man, so he’d have to go through release waivers. The system is designed to give players every possible opportunity to remain on the 40-man.

        • Bavarian Yankee

          sure, but why would the Yanks do that? Just put him on the 60 day DL then.

          • Preston

            My understanding is he’s on the 40 man and hasn’t pitched in a MiLB game this season he’d go on the MLB DL. So putting him on the 60 day DL would burn a year of Campos MLB service clock.

            • Bavarian Yankee

              yeah, but that’s a better option than releasing him, no?

            • Mikhel

              Is there a minimum amount of innings, batters faced or games played in the minors to qualify as MiLB DL instead of MLB DL? If there is not a minimum they could have asked him to face a batter and throw 4 balls, take him out and then say he got injuried and send him the DL… just give him a nice car so he doesn’t say anything… or something like that.

              • Bavarian Yankee

                if you’re on the 40 man roster and go on the 60 day DL it’s ALWAYS the MLB DL.

    • jjsabo

      Someone with an open 40 spot might just take him, and then DFA him. It’s not really worth the risk.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I’d say its worth the risk. We ascribe way more potential on this guy than is realistic sometimes.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          May as well just DL him if they are going to risk losing him altogether.
          May not be the best use of about $500K, but then again, it’s not my money.

        • RetroRob

          Yes. The odds of him contributing in the Majors in and significant way, if at all, was always low, even before TJS.

          He was termed a lottery card in the Pineda/Montero deal, where if everything went right he could have been significant, someone to dream on. Obviously, not only hasn’t gone right, it’s been just the opposite.

          The talent is there and he still may contribute, although two to three years down the line. Putting him on the 40-man is a wasted spot. I still think they should do what they can to free up that spot.

          Fans are accused of prospect hugging, for good reason. Seems MLB teams are guilty of it too.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Everyone wants to win the trade.

            That and Quintana, of course.

            Neither should factor in decisions with other single-A pitchers.

    • ALZ

      Cause then they claim him and stick him on the 60 day dl. They would have time to see if he worth it.

  • Bronx Boy

    Which makes the Jesus trade the all-Tommy J trade.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Pineda didn’t get TJS he had shoulder surgery, which apparently was much riskier (to his pitching career) and a lot more invasive than TJS is.

      • Ed

        Pineda’s surgery wasn’t very invasive. It was actually just an arthroscopic procedure. He got lucky – his tear was minor and in a location that was easy to reach with a scope. The problem with Pineda’s surgery is simply that doctors aren’t very good at fixing shoulders.

        So far it’s looking good though – the major problem with shoulder surgery is a lot of guys end up throwing ~10mph slower afterwards.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          But those guys all had either shoulder capsule or rotator cuff surgery (or both) on top of the labrum issue.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Another potentially stupid question: Why was Campos on the 40 man to begin with? Was he Rule 5 eligible or something?

  • Yankee$

    Of course, in retrospect, seems like they wasted a lot of time waiting to decide to do this. That “elbow fracture” was only called a fracture fairly recently (like in Spring Training) IIRC. Maybe that is their way to avoid the issue of “why didn’t you just TJS 2 years ago?”

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Campos said it was a fracture last May.

      http://riveraveblues.com/2013/.....012-86015/

      • Yankee$

        Curses…foiled again!

      • Yankee$

        Any injury word on Torrens? He hasn’t played in about 10 days or so since getting only 1 AB in the last game he played in.

  • nycsportzfan

    Jesus, this guys turning out to be another Caleb Cotham. A guy who just can’t stay healthy and loses any luster he had as a prospect because of it. A fractured elbow and Tommy John surgery within a couple yrs of themselves. Thats simply not good.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Cotham’s in AAA, at least. No guarantee this guy gets even there.

  • nycsportzfan

    Murphy making the start at catcher today. Good luck youngster.

  • BeanTooth

    It always annoyed me that Michael Kay said Campos had TJS whenever he referred to him. Maybe he just had ESP.

    • RetroRob

      Or maybe Kay is just stupid?

      Actually, Kay is far from stupid, but he is into bluster, facts be damned. He started as a tabloid sports reporter for either the Post of the Daily News (too long ago to remember and too lazy to go look), and does a sports talk show now. Facts rarely serve those mediums well.

  • Pineda’s old fashioned BBQ Sauce

    I remember when we made the Pineda trade this guy was said to be the real prize…my how that’s all gone is just remarkably terrible

    • RetroRob

      By “we” you mean posters here on RAB? Probably. Almost anyone who knew much about prospects realized he was, as mentioned above, the lottery ticket prior to the numbers being drawn. Potential, but reality always sets in.

      Kid’s not dead, though, but I wouldn’t worry to much about him for another two years.

      • RetroRob

        too.

        One of these days I’ll start proofing. One of these days. Not today.

  • Looser trade droids Kenobi FotD™

    Da fuh????

    EXCELLENT strategery on that 40 man construction.

    Sheesh.

  • Mikhel

    Sixth yankee to have TJ surgery it seems, at least confirmed TJS.