Two Games, Two Losses: Yanks fall 3-1 to Astros

Game Two: Bounce Back
A deeper look at Sabathia's very bad then very good Opening Day start

The dream of 0-162 is still alive. The Yankees dropped their second game of the season on Wednesday night, losing 3-1 to the Astros. Houston is 2-0 for the first time in eleven years. Really glad the Yankees are taking advantage of his soft early-season schedule, you guys.

(Presswire)
(Presswire)

Who Needs Runs When We Have Each Other?
Believe it or not, the Yankees had a bunch of chances in this game. They just couldn’t capitalize on any of ‘em. Their only run scored on a double play (more on that in a bit) and they stranded a runner on second in the third, a runner on first in the fourth, runners on the corners in both the fifth and sixth, and runners on second in both the seventh and eighth. Jacoby Ellsbury flew out and grounded out to end the third and fifth inning rallies, respectively.

The Yankees went 0-for-10 with runners in scoring position and the biggest RISPFAIL came in the eighth, after Carlos Beltran led off the inning with an opposite field double. The next three batters, the 4-5-6 hitters, all struck out. Brian McCann went down on five pitches, Mark Teixeira on four pitches, and Alfonso Soriano on six pitches. Matt Albers got eight (!) swings and misses out of the 15 pitches he threw those guys. I don’t even.

The early-season offensive ineptitude reminds me of the 2002-ish through 2008 Yankees, who never seemed to hit in April. I remember there used to be columns written pretty much every year about trading for Ken Griffey Jr. to improve the offense. Eventually those teams hit and hit a ton, and I suspect this offense will do the same at some point. Right now though? These last two games have been a hot mess. When Brian Roberts (3-for-4 on Wednesday) has been your most productive hitter, you’ve got issues.

(Bob Levey/Getty)
(Bob Levey/Getty)

Death By Dexter
Poor Hiroki Kuroda. He must have feel 2013 never ended. The Yankees gave their ace only 3.19 runs of support per start last season, the third lowest among qualified starters. They couldn’t buy a run for him on Wednesday* even though he held up his end of the bargain. Kuroda held the Astros to two runs on three hits and one walk in six innings, striking out five. He got seven ground ball outs and six fly ball outs.

* Well, they did score the one run. Wouldn’t want to sell them short.

Unfortunately, all three of those hits were extra-base hits, including a solo homer by Dexter Fowler to lead off the game. Two innings later, he tripled to center and scored on Robbie Grossman’s ground out. Fowler’s killed the Yankees these last two games. Four total hits, all for extra bases. Kuroda pitched around a Grossman one-out triple in the sixth, his final inning. Two triples and homer with no other hits allowed. It’s the first time a pitcher has done that since … Felix Doubront against the Yankees last September. Lame.

Aside from some long at-bats, Kuroda looked like vintage Hiroki Kuroda, mixing sinkers with splitters and sliders and whatever else he has in that bag of tricks. I chalk the long at-bats up to early-season rust. Joe Girardi told Chad Jennings before the game that they plan to treat Kuroda like Andy Pettitte this year, meaning they won’t push him deep into the game or much beyond 100 pitches. That’s why his night ended at six innings and 91 pitches. Sounds like a plan to me.

(Bob Levey/Getty)
(Bob Levey/Getty)

Leftovers
So about that run-scoring double play? It was Yangervis Solarte‘s first career at-bat. He pinch-hit for Kelly Johnson against the left-handed Kevin Chapman with runners on the corners and no outs in the seventh. Yeah, it scored a run, but that double play took the wind right out of the Yankees’ sails. I know he had a great spring, but Solarte isn’t exactly a weapon off the bench. He shouldn’t pinch-hit for anyone in a big or semi-big spot.

David Phelps really doesn’t look right. He was sitting 87-88 mph all spring and he was throwing max effort to hit 90 in this game, giving up a solo homer and putting two other guys on base in his 1.1-inning outing. Phelps missed more than two months with a pair of forearm strains in the second half last season and I dunno, he doesn’t look so hot right now. Maybe keep him out of close games for a little while. Matt Thornton (one ground out, one intentional walk) and Shawn Kelley (ground out) cleaned up Phelps’ mess in the eighth.

Roberts and Brian McCann (2-for-4) combined for five of the team’s seven hits. Beltran (double) and Brett Gardner (single) had the others. Gardner, Ellsbury, and Derek Jeter each drew a walk. Teixeira built upon his strong Opening Day by going 0-for-4 with three strikeouts. Soriano looks like a mess right now and has gone 0-for-4 with two strikeouts in each of the first two games. He did miss a ton of time of camp with the flu, so maybe he’s just behind. Same with Ellsbury and his calf. Maybe.

The Astros had a pre-game ceremony for Jeter before the game, giving him a set of golf clubs and a pair of fancy cowboy boots. Former Yankees (and Astros) Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens were both on hand. The Astros then came out of the dugout to give Jeter a standing ovation before his first at-bat, which was kinda weird considering they still have another game tomorrow.

Adam Warren has warmed up in each of the first two games, and given how Girardi always makes sure his guys are rested, he might not be available tomorrow. He’s almost certainly a better late-inning option over the current version of Phelps. That reminds me: don’t forget about our Bullpen Workload page now that the season has started.

If you’re looking for a good omen, the Yankees have been held to two runs or less in their first two games of the season for the first time since … 1998. That turned out okay.

Box Score, WPA Graph & Standings
For the box score and video highlights, go to MLB.com. FanGraphs has some more stats and ESPN has the updated standings. Spoiler: the Yankees are still in last.


Source: FanGraphs

Up Next
Hilariously, the Yankees will try to avoid being swept (!) by the Astros (!!!) on Thursday night. That’s another 8pm ET start. Those are the worst. Give me 7pm or 10pm, nothing in between. Ivan Nova and left-hander Brett Oberholtzer will be the pitching matchup.

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Game Two: Bounce Back
A deeper look at Sabathia's very bad then very good Opening Day start
  • BigBlueAL

    Its always tough to score runs in Houston when you face Mike Scott and Nolan Ryan in the first 2 games….

    • Wheels

      Hope J.R. Richard isn’t pitching tomorrow.

      • BigBlueAL

        Its Bob Knepper on the mound tomorrow for the Astros.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Well played. Very well played.

  • forensic

    I’m getting tired of watching this 2013 montage on the Yankees offense.

    Can’t they just start showing the 2014 season already?

  • Kiko Jones

    You know who also started 0-2? The ’98 Yankees. Oh, and the ’09 Yankees, too.

    Enough with the silliness, Supernova for the win!

    • nycsportzfan

      I brought the 98 club up last night. Lets at least get through the rotation a couple times before claiming season to be lost, or for that matter, even worrying about the records at all. It just takes a minute for such a bunch of new guys working together. They’ll gel as they continue to get used to the way each other plays.

      As long as were getting pitching like what we got outta Hiroki last night, then we’ll be fine. The batting and hitting will figure itself out, I firmly believe.

  • http://www.twitter.com/mattpat11 Matt DiBari

    This was a bad one

  • Pineda Colada

    Forget the curse of Eduardo. ..I’m more worried about the curse of can

    Yankles 0-2
    Mariners 2-0

    • Pineda Colada

      Cano. ..damn auto correct

      • Betty Lizard

        Better the curse of can than the wrath of Khan.

        But what really made me laugh was “Yankles” which I read as cankles.

        Hey, we lost our first two games and I need a laugh about now.

    • FIPster Doofus

      About to be 3-0. They’re crushing the Angels again.

      Note to self: Stop picking the Angels to make the playoffs every year.

    • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

      Mariners leading 8 to 1 in 8th, so it’s about to be 3-0

      • pft2

        26 runs in 3 games. Cano batting 455.

        • forensic

          Cano’s just along for the ride. Clearly that’s become Justin Smoak’s team.

          • Pineda Colada

            Trade Nunez for smoak and dfa tex…get it done cashman

          • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

            I wonder if Cano goes into the HOF as a Yankee or Mariner?

  • nycsportzfan

    I’m gonna predict the Yanks to score at least 5 runs Tommorow, and get there 1st W of the season, and all we be well.lol

    Hey Mike, I asked who you thought would go deep 1st for the Yanks this yr, and you said Ells and I said Sori. Its still up for grabs after 2 games.lol Sori takes Oberholtzer deep tonight, mark it down!

    • pft2

      LHP’er tomorrow. I take Tex from the right side. Jeter, Soriano and Tex will have a field day

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Gotta love baseball

    ? It’s only game number 2 and the Pirated and Cubs in endless death struggle

    ? 6 closers have blown saves tonite.

    • forensic

      6 closers have blown saves tonite.

      But Robertson is still perfect! And to think, people were worried about him replacing Mo.

  • forensic

    Just noticed the Cubs and Pirates are in the 15th inning. All that because Melancon and Grilli blew a great start (and a W for my fantasy team) from Charlie Morton.

    Starlin Castro has a nice 0-6 going and is inexplicably the Cubs #3 batter in the lineup. Oh, and still no one can get Emilio Bonifacio out.

    • vicki

      i boldly compared starlin to eduardo in a chat several years ago. i was wrong. nunez is better.

  • TWTR

    It’s not about Cano.

  • Dan

    Big money spent in all the wrong places. This isn’t the curse of Nunez . It is A-Rod fallout.To be 0-2 especially against Houston is almost like being a Met fan.Simply humiliating. The only real “excuse” is that Tex didn’t play last year. The starting rotation and infield are weak.The money in the outfield hasn’t performed. This could be deja blues all over again.

    • Wheels

      Rotation isn’t weak.

      • FIPster Doofus

        It could be. I don’t think it will be, though.

    • forensic

      Thus far the five infielders have hit .294 while the four outfielders have hit .103.

      Seems like an odd time to be calling the infield weak.

      • TWTR

        It’s an odd time to draw any conclusions based on 2 games.

        The team was 16-10 on April 30th last season. Did anyone really think that they were that good?

        • Stan the Man

          They were 16-10 in April and finished 85-77, so they were that good.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            If you continue to go 16-10 every month, you don’t finish 85-77.

            • TWTR

              This.

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    “That’s another 8pm ET start. Those are the worst. Give me 7pm or 10pm”

    When I was a kid in the mid 80s they used to start home games at 8:05PM

    And when they moved the start time down to 7:30 and then 7:00 people actually complained.

    • vicki

      the later the better for us vampires.

      • forensic

        I’m still waiting for them to start a game a 3AM ET for me to watch live when I get home from work (not counting the Australia games).

      • Dalek Jeter

        Amen sister!

      • Get Phelps Up

        And us west coasters.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      With an 8:00 PM start, I’m much more likely to catch the start of the game, but not the end.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    Here’s a serious question: What makes you think we’ll hit anything like the 2002-2008 offense. With the exception of the o8′ offense our mid-2000’s offense was INSANELY good.

    We’ll undoubtedly improve, probably by a whole lot, but I don’t see why we’ll “probably” hit like the mid-2000’s offense.

    • Deathstroke Heathcott

      Who said we were gonna hit like the mid-2000s Yankees?

    • Dalek Jeter

      Probably how members of the line up hit last season and were projected to hit this season…I mean they’ve looked bad these two games, but there is no reason to think that Ellsbury, Gardner, Beltran, Soriano, and McCann at the very least aren’t going to hit this season. Sure Jeter and Roberts remain huge question marks and Johnson will be average offensively at best…but if everybody else hits like they can/should there is a good chance that the offense is very good this season.

      • pft2

        If Jeter and Tex don’t hit like they should, then this lineup won’t score as much as you think, except perhaps against LHP’ers

        Through August 12 last year, Soriano had a 732 OPS and 278 OBP (w/Cubs and Yankees). Very hot at the end, but those cold spells are trouble for the lineup.

    • forensic

      I agree. Without mentioning actual run totals because of the different offensive environment, in the 6 years from 2002-2007 the Yankees led the AL in R/G three times, were 2nd twice, and were 3rd once. They also led (or tied for the league lead) in OPS+ in 5 of the 6 years (finishing 2nd the other year).

      I don’t quite see that kind of potential in this team.

  • adeel

    Its a known fact that the team with the best record before the all star break, or even the team that is number 1 in the AL east before the break almost NEVER WINS THE CHAMPIONSHIP

    So i take these losses as a good omen. Remember, Cano was 0-24 in his first 20 or so at bats..

    • dalelama

      “Cano was 0-24 in his first 20 or so at bats.”

      A classic Yogiism.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I thought this was a funny comment, then I notice who posted it and my mind was truly blown.

        Another conquering hero answers the bell.

  • Huh?

    Yesterday you suggested pinch hitting Cervelli in a spot against a lefty despite the fact that it would have burned the back-up and a freak injury to McCann would have been disastrous. Now you complain about pinch hitting Solarte in pretty much the same spot. I think you are more upset with the result than the decision.

    • The Tenth Inning Stretch

      Not really. Cervelli is a better hitter.

  • Mick taylor

    The problem is that your highest paid hitter who you need to be your clean up hitter , Tex , is horrible. And he will blame his wrist, but he was already in decline before the injury. He at 23 million a year is the biggest bust in baseball. Also, as a blogged years ago, yanks should have let cc go when he opted out and kept Burnett and the 150 million they gave him. Also,do any of you clowns realize how much pressure was put on Nunez when he came up as the heir apparent to jeter. Now that he is out of that shadow let us see what be does

    • Bavarian Yankee

      CC didn’t opt out.

  • PunkPitch

    Over/Under games before Ells-buried goes on the DL? And since the sky is falling, might as well move Gardner to leadoff, re-sign Vernon Wells, and designate Alfonso to a nursing home near the Stadium. Move Pineda to the #1 rotation spot.

  • BellShaped

    With Aarp elligible teams one can almost conjecture a pattern to the season. They are likely to play poorly in the first one and a half month, since aging players take longer to acclimatize to rigors of a regular season (travel, ball parks, etc etc). Hence they lose a ton.
    In the couple of months that follow, their experience kick in and they start hitting like they are capable (which translates to winning) but that never lasts the entire season. They stagger towards the finish line plagued either by injuries or its close cousin inconsistency. Thus, talented aarp teams have a pattern, slow start, steady to great mid season form, slow finish.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    Yes, this feels like the expensive remake of a bad movie that you didn’t like the first time around right now, but it only feels like the teaser before the opening credits even start.

    The title of the movie was provided by vicki in the game thread last night: “Not For Pussies.”

    • TWTR

      Baseball is like a projective psychology test in that much of the crazy, panic-filled stuff you read on Yankee blogs and boards during losses reveals more about the person who posts the stuff than the team itself. Yes, this team has flaws, but it is still good enough to win 90-ish games.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        It’s the same every season. They’re either incapable of recognizing patterns or just want to be heard on the Internet.

        This is a problem, since I want to be heard on the Internet as well.

        • BellShaped

          Yes its the same every season and every season they have faded away unable to hold on in the long run. The point is an aging team will not endure in the long run they will be defeated at some point by a young team, that is a pattern. You choose to recognize the overall success of getting to playoffs with an older team but fail to recognize that the team has won a championship in the last 13 years. If we want consistent championship caliber team we have to be talented and young, talented or young.

          • BellShaped

            *NOT talented OR young *

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Your proof, please?

          • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

            “Yes its the same every season and every season they have faded away unable to hold on in the long run.”

            Oh? Really? How long have you been watching the Yankees? 2 years?

            ALCS appearance counts as fading away now? Because that was less than 2 years ago in real life. Short term memory ftmfw.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              One issue commenter, from the screen name to the schtick. Ignore.

              • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                Didn’t recognize him.

  • emac2

    They did take advantage of the soft early schedule.

    They used it as an excuse to ignore everything relevant and bury the hottest hitters and pitchers. It will all more or less even out over the season but we aren’t playing desperate enough yet.

    Maybe it’s a rope a dope to wear everyone out.

  • LarryM Fl

    Most Yankee fans are disappointed by the start of the 2014 season. How could they not be! The comments above reflect the disappointment and some bloggers injected their humor with their comments. I not concerned about the hitting. The fielding has me concerned and the inability of CC and Phelps to break a pane of glass with the 88/89 fastballs. Kuroda and Nunno did a bit better. With Dexter Fowler being the main reason for two losses its a bit annoying already two games into the season.

    I’m pretty sure we will not go 0-162. In fact I’ll start taking wagers in June.

  • pinedamaybegreata (formerly Monterowasdinero)

    Right now, the only element of the team that is potentially exciting are our next 3 starters. The lineup is old, often injured and playing with little spark.

    Happy that we have been injury free for 2 games.

    Singleton was discussing how batters do not have a 2 strike approach anymore. Free swingers no matter how many strikes. I agree. Nobody seems to choke up/shorten their swing with 2 strikes and just try to put the ball in play-especially with runners on base. Call me old fashioned but I’ll take my chances doing that vs a strikeout swinging for the seats anytime.

    • Mike HC

      Wow, didn’t even see your comment before I submitted mine below. I guess it is not surprising we are both focused on our next three starters after the lackluster start to the season though.

      • will

        heh i agree with this also, i wait for these 3 to pitch, I also cannot wait when betances comes in. I wait for him to pitch, all spring i’d check to see when and if he might pitch an inning, i was almost glad he gave up a run a few weeks ago to remind him to stay sharp. I’d pretty much skip the yankee at bats if i were fast watching these games and just jump to the bottom of innings to see who’s pitching.

        With that being said it is just 2 games. But… The way Mcann and Tex struck out, are not ok. Not any time of the year. They swung at shit pitches.

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          “They swung at shit pitches.”

          So does every batter in the major leagues. I watched Ortiz swing at shit pitches last night. Chris Davis too. I’ve seen Cabrera do it. Trout does it.

          Everyone does it. Sometimes pitchers win the battle. ~60% of the time, even against the best hitters.

  • Mike HC

    The next three pitchers in the rotation are going to tell the story of our season. The offense is experienced and will be ok, but I doubt it will be able to carry the team like the mid 2000’s offenses. There is enough there though. Nova, Tanaka and Pineda reaching their potential is going to be the key.

  • Yankenstein

    I hate slow starts.

  • Darren

    On the one hand, it’s obvious that you shouldn’t freak out after 2 games.

    On the other, it’s a little harder to take considering the losses
    look. Just. Like. Last. Year.

    CC blowing the game in the first inning…offense sputters and dies….weird decisions by Girardi…Kuroda looking great, but just not great enough.

  • Pinedamaybegreata (formerly Monterowasdinero)

    Our lack of offense is going to put alot of pressure on our starters. Little room for error and it is always harder to pitch down a few runs early in the game.

    Additionally, can we not take 3-2 fastballs down the middle (Tex and Gardy)? Looking for a curve from a fb pitcher second game of the season or just pathetically hoping for a walk? Soriano’s 2 strike approach is, well….he will lead the team in K’s.

    At least 3-2, strike 3, fb takes have worked the pitch count. (trying to find the positive)

  • CS Yankee

    Thinking;

    1) with the lefty that Jete gets the start as the DH, Anna debut at SS.
    2) Sori should sit because he is looking real bad but will start due to the lefty.
    3) So Grit sits? maybe should be Ells, hitless and coming off a calf issue. Sori in LF, Ells and Beltran.
    4) Need the good Nova today.
    5) Our “ace” pitches tomorrow, so even if have brooms in Houston, the “W’s” are just around the corner.

    • CS Yankee

      6) I need coffee.

  • wallypip

    Has anyone checked out Solarte’s minor league splits? He’s hit over .300 with a better than .800 OPS in AAA over the last couple years. I don’t expect him to be a dangerous hitter in the bigs, but yeah, I’d like to see him take some pokes at loogys like Chapman–particularly since the alternatives are three lefties and your backup catcher.

  • fred robbins

    Nice to think about the next few games starters… But Meanwhile, Yankees are stuck with Joey G– who does not have the guts to bat Tex 7th and move Gardner to his Tex’s spot. Joey G of over managing fame, pulling in an infield in the first inning of game 1- he has already cost the Yankees 1 game and will probably cost them 10 and CC will cost them another handful. Tex is through as a hitter and he has a built in excuse and seems to be ok with it. Joe Madden would not tolerate such an attitude or lack of performance.

    This is a pitifully built team and you fans here just want to beam positive instead of realizing the reality of how poor team managing and ownership come to ruin a team over time.

    CC is a waste of time and space and maybe the Cardinals or another team with a good pitching coach would take him, but I bet he could pass waivers right now- what the heck- only another 75 million for him and 75 more for Tex? I’m not sure about Tex’s remaining dollars but hey, if he opts out, I bet Randy Levine and Hal could argue and bid against each other to add a few more years at 25 per to keep him.

    If listening to Joey G’s lip smacking post game comments isn’t enough to turn you away, maybe an under 500 team will.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I’d root for an under .500 Yankees team as I would for an over .500 one. It’ll take a hell of a lot more than that to make me sound as bitter as you do on the Internet.

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

        I don’t know how many times I have to tell everyone he’s a football player who needs to stick to what he does best.

  • JGYank

    I know the team is probably rusty, but you have to win against the Astros. We should of won at least 2/3 and I was hoping for a sweep. If you can’t capitalize against the worst team in the league, it’s going to be hard to make the playoffs. I’m not panicking but this team needs to turn things around

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

      There is no proof thus far that the astros are the worst team in the league.

      If this series happens in august, no one cares. OK well, RAB still freaks the fuck out.

      It’s 2 games. We haven’t hit worth a lick, even the guys who have proven many times over that they don’t suck at the plate(McCann, Ellsbury, Gardner, Beltran).

      You never “have” to win against anyone. We’ll lose some terrible series this year, and sweep a few against some great teams. It happens every. single. season.

  • JK2

    The thing I will say about this Yankees offense, they will have to be a top 5 situational hitting team if they want to go far in the playoffs (assuming they make it). I would say the one thing these 2 games prove about the Yankees offense is that when they don’t hit the homerun, they don’t score. It kind of reminds me of how the Knicks are in basketball, when the 3 point shots are not falling, they are a pedestrian offense. You live by the 3, you die by the 3. You live by the homerun, you die by the homerun. I think also fans will get lured in a a lot by what have you done for me lately. If a team does great at the end of the season, people ignore any hitting struggles in a particular category at the beginning of the season. If a team does poorly at the end of the season, people remember what the team does poorly at the beginning of the season. Personally I put no stock at what you do at the end of the season in a particular offensive category as I do what have you done for me over the entire season. For me at least 2 great months doesn’t erase 3 bad months. Obviously I don’t expect the Yanks to be bad for 3 months, but you can see my point.

  • fred robbins

    My comments do sound bitter— it’s just the frustration of the same mistakes over and over again. And how certain players get such favorable situations with Joey G. Like Phelps… he is not a major league pitcher, and hardly ever misses a bat. Bringing him into a game that is close is and has never been a good idea.. He is a long reliever in a game the Yankees are winning by a large margin.. like maybe 7 or 8 -1… that is not being bitter, it is being realistic.

    If Betances stays this sharp he is their only power arm out of the BP. I really root for him to stay healthy and gain manager’s trust.

    Anyway, I do wish the Yankees well, but sometimes I get the feeling they really need to fail and hit bottom before the people responsible for this mess will be gone.

    Tex should not be in a power spot in the lineup.. Should he?

    how many games are acceptable to see him fail time after time in the clutch? I am willing to listen to any reasonable explanation or a reasonable number of losses the Yankees should be willing to take

    I would love to see a blowout today–Yankees 10-Houston 2

  • Dave Guarnieri

    “The Curse of the Eduardo?”

    Soriano is dead awful. I know he had a bad case of the flu and his spring training time was limited.

    Brian Roberts MVP at this point, and, as stated, when he’s the highlight reel, there is a problem.

    And just like the first part of last year, Kuroda with a quality outing, they leave 10 guys on base. If Solarte’s DP ball was a foot toward First base, could have been a big inning. But it wasn’t.

    And as stated, when Brian Roberts is your highlight reel, you are in trouble.

    The young pitchers take over for the next 3 which hopefully will be a good watch. But they have to hit, and Girardi has to be more aggresive. First and third no outs. Why not have Roberts on the move?

    Kelly Johnson will be the first guy to play himself out a position.

  • joe c

    0-2 to the astros does sux. the thing i cannot stand though is listening to well you have to give scott feldmen credit really a .500 pitcher with junk stuff ok next you have to give cozart credit a 23 year old kid. I get sick of hearing just like last year giving all these pitchers credit.

    why cant we simple say jeter not there yet he really wasnt all spring, tex still coming back from wrist injury if he ever comes back, ellsbury who knows with him is it is his legs? soriano missed must of training camp. facts are we are an old team that looks that way a lot of days, and when one struggles most of them do.

    If we start out 0-3 to the AA astros all is ask is for giradi, jack curry and bob lorenz for love of god not say you have to give Brett F ing Oberholtzer credit for the way he pitched tonight pitched them inside kept them off stride enough with that!!!!

  • Mike

    We really shouldn’t be surprised about this result. The Astros more than doubled their payroll. These aren’t the same Astros.

    We also haven’t completely integrated our new players yet. We’re still on track to win the division imo.