Game 46: Surprise Sale

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The Yankees have been a little lucky this year when it comes to the other team missing key players to injuries. Josh Hamilton was hurt both times they played the Angels, Ryan Braun was out when they played the Brewers, and Jose Abreu is out for this four-game series against the White Sox. Unfortunately, ace lefty Chris Sale will come off the disabled list to start tonight’s game for the ChiSox. It looked like he would make one more minor league rehab start just yesterday.

Anyway, the Yankees rallied late and stole a game from the Cubs yesterday, which was good to see considering they burned through their entire bullpen. It happens, but it’s easier to swallow when it happens in a win. David Phelps has not given the Yankees any length since moving into the rotation — no more than 5.1 innings in each of his three starts — but he’s going to have to soak up some innings tonight. At last six would be nice. Dare I even say seven? Here is the White Sox lineup and here is the Yankees lineup:

  1. CF Jacoby Ellsbury
  2. DH Derek Jeter
  3. 1B Mark Teixeira
  4. RF Alfonso Soriano
  5. 3B Yangervis Solarte
  6. 2B Brian Roberts
  7. C John Ryan Murphy
  8. SS Brendan Ryan
  9. LF Zoilo Almonte
    RHP David Phelps

It’s cool and cloudy on Chicago’s south side, but, unlike New York, there is no rain in the forecast. Tonight’s game is scheduled to start a little after 8pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

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  • Yankeefan91

    Do you think with all the injuries Texas has do they become sellers ? i would be very interested in beltre. I know texas is looking for catching help and the yankees have some catching talent in the system.

    • The Other Matt

      Now that Fielder is done for the year, they will probably be one of the favorites to sign Morales after the draft. I don’t know what they will do about all the pitching they’re missing, but I guess they do have Holland coming back later this season.

  • Yangeddard Solarte

    Soley finally gets the respect he deserves in the 5 hole today. Wouldn’t be surprised to see BGDP throw 6-7 innings of shutout ball and lower that already sparkling 3.33 ERA.

  • The Other Matt

    I know it’s not relevant to here, but I’m watching the Mets-Dodgers game in between the commercials on the pre-game show and Yasiel Puig made probably the best catch I’ve seen all year – if not one one of the best I’ve seen in a few years.

    • vicki

      should’ve been a double play too, but the throw was dropped. monster.

      • The Other Matt

        Agreed.

    • tCMiller30

      It was good.. But I wouldn’t say it was the best catch of the year.

      http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/1.....ving-catch

      I’d easily take Ben Revere’s catch over Puig’s.

      • The Other Matt

        I must say that was a damn good catch, and he covered a tremendous amount of ground to get there.

  • The Guns of Navarone

    This doesn’t figure to be a very fun game to watch. Chris Sale is tough enough, but especially tough against an average offense currently in a slump.

    • The Other Matt

      Yeah I thought they might be able to get 3 runs off of Sale tonight in about 5-6 innings, but with this lineup I’m not so sure. Watch they go out and put up 5-6 runs tonight and still have it not be enough.

      • The Guns of Navarone

        You can’t predict baseball!

        • The Other Matt

          True tea. True tea.

      • whozat

        Wait, you thought that the Yankee offense would be able to hang a 4.5 – 5.4 ERA on Chris Sale tonight?

        • The Other Matt

          It was a feeling that I had earlier in the day. Though when I saw the lineup I wasn’t too encouraged. But I stuck to my guns though. I also predicted Phelps would out-pitch Sale, and go about six innings and give up 1 run. So there’s that.

          • whozat

            Even the regular Yankee lineup would have a hard time putting up numbers like that against Sale. He’s one of the best pitchers in baseball.

            • The Other Matt

              This I know.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    So, we get a different crew. Still waiting on Crew F to show up at Yankee Stadium.

    Tom Woodring / No. 75-HP – If people pay attention to the umpiring roster this year, we have 10 zillion umpires who are clearly rookies. Woodring made his MLB debut on April 16, during the Cubs-Yankees doubleheader. According to various sources, Woodring has a great personality behind the plate. However, I will analyze his game calling tonight before I write a full report, as he is a rookie and details about him are not that easy to find.

    DJ Reyburn / No. 70-1B – Although Reyburn has been working as a call-up umpire for the last five years, this is Reyburn’s first full season as a MLB umpire, one of seven hired to make extra room for instant replay. Humorously, he’s also the umpire in the Dominican League who managed to get punched by Jose Offerman, the ex-Red Sox. As for being an umpire, he has a 3.64 ERA into the season thus far, which only accounts for 62nd of 83. However, he also has a WHIP of 1.29. He is a pitcher’s umpire, and notoriously this season, he has had an average of 7.2 strikeouts per 9 innings. He has interestingly, not had an ejection this year, but other than some high years in 2010 and 2012, Reyburn isn’t a hothead. We’ll see however.

    Jeff Nelson / No. 45-2B/CC – If you’re seeing a pattern, the marking of crew chief next to Jeff Nelson is also new this year. Nelson is a 2014 crew chief, 1 of the 2 hired for the two new crews (the other being Strike Zone Extraordinare Bill Miller). Nelson is a run of hte mill umpire, and right now only shows a 3.88 ERA among starting pitchers, but has a low average of 1.27 WHIP. Nelson also is an average hothead, with already two ejections this season. In his 17th season as a major league umpire, he has turned more into a hitter’s umpire. There’s not much I have to say about Nelson though.

    Dan Bellino / No. 2 – 3B – Another youngin, Bellino’s in his 6th year of umpiring. However, he seems to have more of an average strike zone, which leads to a pitcher’s ERA of nearly 4, but the WHIP is as average as the rest of the crew, which is interesting. However, hitters have a high slugging with him behind the plate. Bellino has one ejection already this year, but you have to believe we will not be happy, considering Bellino had five ejections last year. We’ll see him on Sunday, but we’ll see how it goes down.

    • The Other Matt

      Thank you for another extensive, detailed umpire scouting report. I’m really starting to enjoy them.

    • The Guns of Navarone

      Yeah, this is good stuff. Well done.

    • Lukasz

      Good shit man

  • The Other Matt

    Despite the not so top notch lineup, I’ll still hold true to my prediction from earlier. Phelps out-pitches Sale, going about six innings and giving up 1 run. We get about 3 runs off of Sale in 5-6 innings.

    • The Guns of Navarone

      You might want to re-think that

      • The Other Matt

        I was re-thinking it as I was writing it.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Getting pretty tired of hearing about the standing ovations Jeter’s getting.

  • The Guns of Navarone

    Yup

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Ok. 18-pitch first. Sale won’t be getting more than 85 pitches tonight. Keep it close through 5.

  • http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/ ALZ

    strikeouts for everyone!

  • WhittakerWalt

    Horrible mismatch of a game. But maybe it will be a trap game for the Sox.

  • RetroRob

    So Sale struck out 11 or 12 batters faced in his rehab, and all three tonight. 14 of 15. So much for rust.

    • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

      Let him strike out everyone and use up pitches. Gets him out all the sooner.

      • RetroRob

        18 pitches that first inning. I wonder what his pitch count limit is.

        • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

          Well if he faced 12 batters in his rehab start, can’t imagine it being too far over 85. But that’s a guess, admittedly

        • Rolling Doughnut

          80 or thereabouts I’d think.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Yes! Rickey H. is back in LF at long last!

  • The Other Matt

    Where was that?!

  • Tom

    They at least made Sale throw 18 pitches… they keep working counts and maybe they can get him out after 5 or 6 and go to work on the pen.

    Hopefully Phelps can keep it close, and more importantly give them some innings.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    If i had to choose between Abreu and Sale being out, I prefer Abreu being out.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Jeter as DH has hilarious potential. At least it’s against a lefty.

    • The Other Matt

      As hilarious as Brian Roberts batting 6th?

      • WhittakerWalt

        Honestly there’s so much dead weight in this lineup it really doesn’t matter where anyone bats.

        • The Guns of Navarone

          Ain’t that the ugly truth

  • RetroRob

    Chances Soriano doesn’t strike out here?

  • RetroRob

    Yes, Michael, but just ignore all the times outs are recorded with shifts.

    I do wonder if shifts have an impact on double plays, which require a tight turn. If one of the infielders are “out of position,” it could slow the relay.

    • The Other Matt

      The Mets had trouble with it last night turning the double play which cost them giving up the winning run. Then again they had Wilmer Flores playing SS, who is naturally a 3B so that might’ve played into a bit. But it definitely does change the footwork around the bag, when trying to turn two. As with Ryan in the first inning, he had to almost round the bag, where he normally would just have to come across the game bag and make the throw.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Sori continues to be ready for the glue factory.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Ok, so much for 85 then. 100 is tougher. Gotta keep it right thru 6.

    • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

      Tight

  • WhittakerWalt

    God, these two are horrible at PBP.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Ma and Pa are completely mystified by the career of Adam Dunn.

  • RetroRob

    Kingman’s HR’s and BA are “better” by time, but Dunn’s OBP is way superior.

    Dunn is not HOFer.

  • Mykey

    Yep. Michael Kay toyed with putting Adam Dunn in the Hall of Fame.

    • RetroRob

      He’s stuck in the “500 HRs is a HOFer” mindset, yet it never was automatic entry. If Kingman stuck around and hit 500 HRs, he would not have been elected. It just so happened that any player in the past who hit 500 HRs was a HOFer, but 500 HRs wasn’t automatic entry.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Kingman had a .302 lifetime OBP, which is pathetic.

        • RetroRob

          I know. That’s why I brought it up since they were comparing the two, but conveniently left out the part where Dunn smokes Kingman, which is OBP.

  • WhittakerWalt

    You can’t do the “he’s not a complete player, ergo not a Hall of Famer” argument unless you admit that Ozzie Smith doesn’t get in under that criteria either.

    • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

      Agree, generally. But the argument “this guy should get in” because “other flawed guy got in” is also shaky logic.

      • RetroRob

        Ozzie is a HOFer.

        • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

          Remember, Bill Mazeroski is a HOFer too.

          • RetroRob

            To be clear, I believe Ozzie should be in the HOF. Not so for Maz, although I do recognize he is probably the greatest pivot man on the DP ever.

            • WhittakerWalt

              Scooter doesn’t belong, either. The Veteran’s Committee has no standards.

              • RetroRob

                Agreed. I did develop a greater appreciation for what Scooter brought to the game, and some of the advanced metrics that attempt to look backward (which makes them questionable) do indicate he was a very good defensive player. He was better than I probably gave him credit for when I was younger, but I can’t make a leap to him being a HOFer. I don’t have that issue with Ozzie.

                • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

                  I think it’s crazier that he won the MVP than being in the HOF. At least with HOF, by the time he got in they factored in his 50 years in baseball (35 in the booth).

            • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

              I understand. My response wasn’t geared toward the Ozzie portion of the original comment. Just the notion that people have been inducted that have questionable statistics. And to use the prior mistake (if that’s the word) to make the case that the mistake should be repeated isn’t really good logic IMO.

              • RetroRob

                That’s what I figured. I just couldn’t tell for sure, which is why I clarified my position.

        • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

          I know

      • WhittakerWalt

        Very true. Dunn is obviously a strange case, and certainly a flawed player. Most people who’d argue against Dunn have no problem putting David Ortiz in, though.

    • whozat

      Yeah you can; it’s really easy. Just give up on the notion of logical consistency and selectively ignore any evidence that doesn’t support your desired conclusion.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Committed to the dive too soon there

  • No 2013 again

    tough break on that hit

  • RetroRob

    Would Gardner caught it? I think yes.

    • 28 this year

      Probably and it’s glove side for Gardner making it even easier I would think

      • RetroRob

        I think he has it standing up. I understand how tough Sale is on lefties, but expecting it to be tough to score, I would have maximized defense. I don’t expect much of anything offensively from Almonte against Sale.

        An argument can be made that neither of these two runs (so far) score.

  • 28 this year

    Dang it

  • Tom

    Crap… had a chance for another real quick inning and now he’s going to be pushing 40 pitches by the end of this inning.

  • TheRealGreg

    Phelps is going to have to take one for the team tonight.

    • No 2013 again

      Girardi would never allow his best buddy to take one for the team

      • TheRealGreg

        He loves the bullpen more and he can’t burn through it tonight.

  • 28 this year

    How quickly it can seem to fall apart

  • No 2013 again

    I wish Phelps was any good.. double to Konerko and a walk to the #9 hitter..

    • TheRealGreg

      A #9 hitter hitting .303

      • No 2013 again

        In a small sample size this season. He’s fairly mediocre for his career..

        • TheRealGreg

          Still, if your #9 hitter is hitting .303, that’s impressive.
          SSS or not

  • TheRealGreg

    Maybe they should have called up some fresh arms tonight.

  • TheRealGreg

    Yeah they have no chance tonight.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Don’t.

    • The Other Matt

      I second this comment.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Brendan told them they could keep the bat. He won’t need it next time.

  • Yankeefan91

    can we at least get a hit

  • Tom

    Furthest anything has gone against Sale tonight? (Brendan’s bat)

    • adeel

      Agree!

  • adeel

    that bat went farther than any ball the yankees have hit tonight…

  • TheRealGreg

    The only chance the Yankees have is if Sale is on a pitch count. He’s up to 49 pitches.

  • No 2013 again

    I don’t like our chances of getting a hit tonight against this guy. He brought his A-game (and our lineup is crap)

    • TheRealGreg

      The one thing the Yankees have done well is work him. He has 49 pitches.

      • http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/ ALZ

        They give him 120 pitches, so he still gets 7 innings and 15 k’s.

        • TheRealGreg

          Coming off of an injury, though?

          • RetroRob

            Yeah, for a guy whose mechanics scare evaluators, and is coming off an injury and only threw four innings in his rehab start, No way do they have him toss 120.

            • TheRealGreg

              If they do, they’re idiots

  • No 2013 again

    I wish our minor league instructors would teach the change up to all of our pitchers..

    • TheRealGreg

      Well Whitley showed a nice changeup

  • adeel

    Sale looks like a young halladay on atkins..

  • bill

    Speaking of Puig… he just screwed up and got himself out because he didn’t know how the infield fly rule works… incredible

    • The Other Matt

      Yeah I saw as well. It was kind of bizarre. I don’t think he runs if Figgins hadn’t took off. Still he has to know the rule, but to his credit the 2nd base umpire didn’t signal the Infield Fly Rule, the 1st base umpire did but he was behind Puig.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Averaging over 5 pitches per batter faced. Got to hang our hats on something, right?

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Just spitballing here.

    Would it be funny if by the time the Reusable Tote Bag game came around that the Yanks will have lost like 9 straight and the fans in attendance decided to wear the tote bags on their heads?

    That seems funny to me. I don’t know.

  • RetroRob

    I still think of Konerko as a Dodger. I know. Crazy.

  • bill

    Paul Konerko second longest tenured player with his team in MLB… surprising

  • Tom

    52 pitches… hopefully Phelps can eek out 3 more innings?

    If it’s 2-0 after 6 and the Yankees have forced enough pitches out of Sale to get to the pen I think they have a decent chance. Sale is up there too (49 pitches)

    Hopefully Ells and Jeter aren’t first pitch hacking this inning.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Yuck

  • The Guns of Navarone

    Sale makes the Yankees look… less than professional.

    • Winter

      Sale makes everyone look that way.

  • No 2013 again

    That slider is Randy Johnson like

  • No 2013 again

    What a crappy pitch to swing at on a 3-1 count..

    • TheRealGreg

      Gameday said it was right in the zone

      • No 2013 again

        Exactly, right in the corner of the strike zone, a perfect pitcher’s pitch.

  • TheRealGreg

    Robin Ventura may have a very interesting decision to make in an inning or 2.

  • The Other Matt

    I’ll just take a hit at this point. Error. Walk. Hit by pitch. Anything.

  • Lukasz

    I just noticed there are 14 pitchers in the AL this year with sub-3 ERAs, this is stupid, I want the pre-2013 offensive levels back

  • RetroRob

    Sale really pitches fast. He’s the opposite of the Red Sox pitchers. I barely have time to flood RAB with notes!

  • TheRealGreg

    According to Jack Curry, Robin Ventura has said that Sale is on a pitch count tonight. About 100 pitches. He’s at 64 right now

    • WhittakerWalt

      100 pitches can’t get here fast enough.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Brian Roberts disagrees.

  • TheRealGreg

    Konerko getting a hit earlier doesn’t surprise me. He’s a Yankee killer

  • Tom

    Got to hold him here Phelps.

  • TheRealGreg

    That small sample size is getting bigger

  • The Guns of Navarone

    YES is about to show that Puig catch when they get back from break

    • TheRealGreg

      I saw it live on SNY. Keith and Ron were agog.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Caught a break…. Maybe

  • The Guns of Navarone

    Hey look Alfonso Soriano struck out

  • No 2013 again

    Soriano’s ABs are embarrassing. Two FB’s in the middle of the plate and one up and out of the zone.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    That’s right Sori, you’re slumping so screw it, just swing at everything.

  • Yangeddard Solarte

    Boy you’ve really gotta hand it to BGDP. He’s matching Sale pitch for pitch, belly to belly. His offense hasn’t even managed a hit yet and he’s kept his team in the ballgame.

    • No 2013 again

      LOL

    • Winter

      Matching Sale pitch for pitch… except for the 2 runs and 8 base runners he’s given up that Sale hasn’t.

    • The Guns of Navarone

      LOL Phelps hasn’t matched shit

    • roberto kelly johnson

      dont forget his sparkling ERA

  • Tom

    A ball in play and out of the IF!

    (baby steps)

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Ugh. He can go 7, maybe 8 now.

    • The Other Matt

      Let’s say he is around 95 pitches after seven and still has the perfect game, they just might have to continue to play it batter-by-batter and let him try and go for it.

  • Yankeefan91

    can the soriano of last year please show up pleaseeeeeeeeeee.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      You need to specify “Yankee version of Soriano of last year”

      Although even the Cubs version would be an improvement.

      • Yankeefan91

        Yankee Version

    • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

      Well that one showed up in July, so…

  • The Guns of Navarone

    A no-hitter is a very real possibility. I suppose it might have to be a combined no-hitter. But they’re not touching Sale while he’s out there.

  • TheRealGreg

    73 pitches through 5.

  • No 2013 again

    Their only chance is to get Sale’s pitch count up.. so obviously they go down in order on 8 pitches.. what a joke

  • TheRealGreg

    But let’s be honest, most of us expected this. Probably not the fact that he’s perfect through 5, but they expected him to dominate

  • http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038823/ Paisa

    This is fucking pathetic. I don’t give a shit who is on the mound.

    • TheRealGreg

      You’re an idiot.

      • http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038823/ Paisa

        I’ll take that as a complement coming from you, guy.

  • Tom

    A few more of those 8 pitch innings and suddenly Sale will be in the 8th inning at 100 pitches.

    In hindsight Gardner might have been a good guy to start tonight (for defense for Phelps and to work counts)

    • TheRealGreg

      Not if Sale was going to be this good.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Exactly because Sale could be this good.

        • TheRealGreg

          But as I said below, Gardner has not gotten a hit of Sale in his career.

          And I’m looking at his game log. He’s played every single game this month

          • Need Pitching & Hitting

            Missing the point.

          • RetroRob

            The score of the game would most likely be 0-0 if Gardner was in left. I would have maximized the defense knowing it was going tough scoring.

            Even with Almonte getting the first hit, I’d rather have the Yankees with no hits right now with the score being tied at zero.

        • Rolling Doughnut

          Right. Why didn’t they start him? It’s not like they can’t rest him tomorrow.

  • TheRealGreg

    Gardner career against Sale: 0-7 with 2 BBs.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      The point isn’t that he’d likely hit Sale.
      The point is that he’d help prevent runs and help get Sale’s pitch count up so they can get to the bullpen earlier.

      • TheRealGreg

        Possibly. But Sale is pitching so well that it might not have mattered anyway.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          Any decision might not make a difference.
          The idea is to give the team the best possible chance to win.
          Playing Gardner probably does that.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      1). Stat is irrelevant, SSS 2). They could use his defense in a close game like this, no?

    • Tom

      Yankees lineup tonight:

      0-15, 0 BB’s

      I’d happily take two walks as it would mean more pitches and more batters faced.

  • Yankeefan91

    brendan ryan gonna end this perfect game right now.

    • Yankeefan91

      so close

      • Winter

        At least he saw more than three pitches…

  • The Guns of Navarone

    LINE DRIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!

  • No 2013 again

    He can go 9 in under 100 pitches… this lineup is a joke

    • TheRealGreg

      Probably not now.

    • Winter

      More like Chris Sale is one of the best pitchers in baseball.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        A mix of both, truthfully.

        • Winter

          I mean, maybe a little, but Sale has the stuff to do this to any lineup. When he’s on, he’s unhittable.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting

            Definitely.
            But that is a bad lineup, against anybody.

  • Yankeefan91

    yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

  • 28 this year

    Of all people to get a hit.

  • TheRealGreg

    Well Robin Ventura can now breathe.

  • The Other Matt

    One pitch out. This is starting to become inevitable.

    • RetroRob

      They might want to think about not swinging at the first pitch just to drive up his pitch count and get him out of there.

      • WhittakerWalt

        This is the part where Greg would say you have to swing because Sale throws so many strikes.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    bloop and blast let’s go!

  • Charles R.

    ZOILED.

  • RetroRob

    Good.

    HR, now, please.

    • Winter

      Hah. Lefty HR against Sale? No chance. I’m just hoping for a good AB.

      • Tom

        Reverse lock?

      • RetroRob

        We can always hope!

    • The Guns of Navarone

      Haha we get so greedy all of a sudden, don’t we.

  • TheRealGreg

    Next inning will probably be Sale’s last.

    I hope, for your guys peace of mind, somebody asks Joe why they played Ellsbury instead of Gardner.

    • RetroRob

      I would have played Gardner over Almonte, not Ellsbury. Much rather have this game 0-0, even if they were being no-hitted.

  • The Other Matt

    Of all people, Zoilo would break up the perfect game. The same guy who has 139/225/167 against left handers in Triple-A.

  • No 2013 again

    At least they avoided the embarrassment of being no-hit. Now if only Phelps could throw 2 more innings..

  • nsalem

    Recent History gives us a chance in this game.
    http://www.baseball-reference......9030.shtml

    think positive

  • Tom

    well, that was a gift on 3-0.

  • BigBlueAL

    Not to make an excuse for Ellsbury considering the contract he was signed to but with the way he has been slumping and the fact he got a couple of hits in extra innings and was I assume beginning to feel better about himself offensively was it really worth starting him tonight against Sale??

    Now he is o for 3 with 3 k’s and right back to looking awful at the plate again. Gardner shouldve gotten the start instead of Ellsbury tonight I think. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things I know, just spit-balling.

    • WhittakerWalt

      At least he’s not popping out on the first pitch every AB?

  • The Guns of Navarone

    Right down the middle…ball 1. I’m so sick of umpires fucking something up EVERY SINGLE GAME. They’ve got replay on every damn play but the strikezone is still left to human interpretation. And I hate it.

  • TheRealGreg

    WOW. Sale is out of the game

  • TheRealGreg

    Lost in all of this is a nice start for David Phelps 6IP 2ER.

    Just went up against the better pitcher.

    • nsalem

      The games not over yet, but we think you know that. With your mentality the North should have given up on the Civil War in 1862 and the Allies should have called it quits vs Hitler in 1942.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Not much more than 85, I knew it. 100, my ass, Ventura

    • RkyMtnYank

      100 would basically be a normal-ish pitch count coming off of injury so I’m sure it was a sigh of relief for Ventura giving up that hit.

  • The Other Matt

    C’mon. This is what we’ve been waiting for, to get into their bullpen. Now let’s make the most of it.

  • TheRealGreg

    Maybe Kevin Long should be fired.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Why?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Because Chris Sale is good.

        • WhittakerWalt

          I should know better than to expect consistency from Greg.

  • Yankeefan91

    http://www.jetergroundercounter.com/

    and u can add another one.

    • TheRealGreg

      We might need a Soriano K counter.

      • Yankeefan91

        i agree

  • Yangeddard Solarte

    Phelpsy really did a sparkling job against one of the best pitchers in baseball. Mike said Sale was top 5 pitcher and BGDP went toe to toe with him for 6 innings. Sparkling ERA down to 3.27. One more good outing and he’ll be under 3.

  • TheRealGreg

    Nothing wrong with singles if you have speed to go from first to third and steal bases. Problme is the Yankees don’t have much

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      ?

      • TheRealGreg

        Speed

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          They’re above average in that regard.

          • TheRealGreg

            Gardner and Ellsbury are. The rest are not great.

            • The Other Matt

              Brian Roberts is pretty good if I remember correctly, and I would think that Soriano probably is at least average.

              • The Other Matt

                Speaking in terms of taking the extra base.

              • TheRealGreg

                Roberts, in his day, was a menace. Now he’s about average.

                Soriano is average as well.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting

              Above average as a team.
              Gardner, Ellsbury, Soriano, Jeter, Ichiro, and Roberts have all been above average in XBT%.

  • TheRealGreg

    The weird thing is that the Yankees coming into today were second in the AL in batting average. Shows you how much offense has gone down in the American League,

    • BigBlueAL

      Coming into today the Yankees were 8th in the AL in runs scored, 8th in OBP, 6th in SLG and 6th in OPS. Also were tied for 4th in SB’s with an amazing 87% success rate.

      They have been a bit unlucky in not scoring as many runs as they should have so far but still being 6th in runs scored instead of 8th out of 15 teams would still be a far cry from most of the Yankee teams of the past 20 years.

      • The Guns of Navarone

        They’re an average offense top to bottom and the biggest culprit is also getting the biggest free pass…

        Brian McCann – .224/.274/.367 73wRC+

        Probably the most atrocious start to the season you could have imagined. McCann picking up the slack would go a long way to helping this offense.

        • WhittakerWalt

          That’s goddamn ugly.

  • TheRealGreg

    Despite perhaps earning a statistical loss, David Phelps earned a win by helping to rest the bullpen

  • Tom

    7 innings for Phelps!

    White Sox helped him out a bit with some quick AB’s the last few innings (and the 3-0 flyball), but this was a much needed long start from someone not named Tanaka.

  • bill

    As much as Arod was an embarrassment to the franchise and would be doing the world a favor if he was never seen or heard from again…. damn, I do miss his bat in the lineup sometimes

    • Yankeefan91

      I miss A-Rod to he was one of my favorite Yankees.

  • The Other Matt

    Tough luck for David Phelps. He goes out and gives the Yankees a quality outing and length to boot, and will probably come away with the L. At the very least he saved the bullpen a bit on a day they really cou;d use the rest. Now they will only have to get an inning from the pen, unless the Yankees were able to put up a couple runs on the board in the next few innings.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Nice job by Phelps after a somewhat shaky start.

    How about some runs now?

  • vicki

    helluva job, phelpsie.

    • bill

      I understand you’re a woman so you get a slight pass but please… no “phelpsie”…

  • roberto kelly johnson

    good job and tough luck game for phelps tonight

  • bill

    Ryan, Murphy, Ellsbury, Jeter due up in the 9th.. So, who does Gardner hit for and does Ichiro get a peak?

    Gardner, Ichiro, Ellsbury, Jeter?

  • BigBlueAL

    Its not just Sale the reason the Yankees have hit like shit tonight, they are just a bad offense regardless of who is pitching against them right now.

    • Winter

      The Yankees are 7th in the AL in wRC+, 8th in Runs Scored, 8th in OBP, 2nd in BA, 6th in wOBA and 5th in WAR. That’s average at worst.

    • TheRealGreg

      Compared to last year?

  • Tom

    Aceves? Time to set fire to this game?

    Of course as they have mustered 1 hit through 8 innings the odds of getting 2 hits yet alone 2 runs in the 9th is probably not great.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Ace still sucks.

    Who’d have thought?

  • Winter

    Hooray, Aceves!

  • No 2013 again

    “McCann hits well..” that was a soft liner at best… he continues to try going the other way but he can’t anything hard to left field. Extremely disappointing.

    • The Guns of Navarone

      73wRC+ One of the worst hitters in the league

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Out of the 86 qualified AL hitters, the Yankees have 4 of the worst 14 by wRC+.
        Hard to score much with that many empty lineup spots.

        • The Guns of Navarone

          Yup. Only three everyday players are hitting in Gardner, Teixeira and Solarte. Ellsbury’s recent slump has KILLED his numbers but he should get hot again. I’m not a believer in Ichiro if he gets more ABs. McCann and somebody else, ANYBODY else, needs to step it up.

        • No 2013 again

          Meanwhile, Shoo has a 153 wRC+

          Cashman has to go

          • No 2013 again

            Shin-Soo Choo*

          • TheRealGreg

            Preaching to the choir.

            At least to get a different voice into this organziation.

    • TheRealGreg

      And people thought he was a slam dunk signing. Instead, early he’s just another Cashman folly.

      • WhittakerWalt

        You’re obsessed.

        • TheRealGreg

          WITH POWER!

          And I’m not even British.

  • RkyMtnYank

    Even Kay called it a bad move bringing in McCann when he can’t tie the game, what a waste of a day off.

  • TheRealGreg

    I agree with Girardi bringing in Aceves. Don’t waste the major relievers in a game that you probably aren’t going to win

    • Winter

      Yes, because teams never win games down two going into the ninth…

      • Winter

        Especially against teams from Chicago with no real closer…

        • Tom

          I laughed.

  • No 2013 again

    too many mediocre players on the same team..

    • TheRealGreg

      Too many mediocre teams in the same division too.

      This division sucks.

  • roberto kelly johnson

    please no more aceves and claiborne…

    • TheRealGreg

      Claiborne? How quickly they forget…

      • roberto kelly johnson

        i know he pitched well yesterday but i dont buy it…even a broken clock is right twice a day

        • The Other Matt

          He’s pretty solid. With the exception of a few forgettable appearances towards the end of last season, he has been pretty good thus far in his short career. Particularly for a second-option middle innings guy, which is what he is, you really can’t ask for much more.

          • roberto kelly johnson

            eh, i rather see what they got with montogomery if this is claiborne’s upside. Joe puts him into alot of big spots for a second option, especially since since 3/5 of the rotation is injured right now.

  • TheRealGreg

    Oh well. Sacrifice yourself Aceves.

  • TWTR

    Send Aceves down, bring Ramirez up.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      I’d imagine if they replace him, it will be with a true long-man, especially with all of the short starts they’ve been getting.

      • TheRealGreg

        I honestly think Chase Whitley would be a good long man in this pen when Pineda comes back.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Konerko probably puts this one out of reach.

  • Yankeefan91

    Im Ready For Burawa, Ramirez and Montgomery bring the young talent up.

    • TheRealGreg

      I agree with Montgomery at least.

      • roberto kelly johnson

        montgomery cant be any worst.

      • The Guns of Navarone

        Seems to me like he’s fallen out of favor with the Yankees recently

        • roberto kelly johnson

          i feel like the yankees wont go with younger players unless their hand is forced alot of times…which is understandable since they are always in win mode but they need to be more flexible.

  • Wow

    What a mediocre team.

  • Tom

    If he’s going to pitch like crap, can he at least hit some batters like the old days to liven things up a bit?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      I’d love to see what would happen if he plunked Miguel Olivo.
      That would be fun to watch.

  • Tom

    Odds the Yankees score 2 runs, and only 2 runs, here?

    • The Other Matt

      …….

  • WhittakerWalt

    Sterling just noticed that the Yanks haven’t been hitting.

  • The Other Matt

    Watch them tease us, put a run on the board and have men on second and third before losing the game.

  • Tom

    Tying run to the plate on deck!

  • WhittakerWalt

    Another day, another tip of the cap.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Oh goody, another standing O update.

  • The Guns of Navarone

    RAAAAAANGERS!!!

    • Yankeefan91

      that was a fucking ball

      • Yankeefan91

        wrong reply

  • The Guns of Navarone

    ooooookay

  • No 2013 again

    what a joke… that CANNOT be a strike..

  • roberto kelly johnson

    fucking aceves and his bullshit run

  • TheRealGreg

    Here come the fallacies.

    • Tom

      No fallacies… Bellisario’s coming in with a 2 run lead or a 3 run lead.

      This is the STUPIDITY of making a 2 run game “give up time” and going to the B relievers despite a starter going 7.

      • TheRealGreg

        But does Belisario pitch better with a 2 run lead?

      • Rolling Doughnut

        +1000. Aceves is a mop-up guy. Useless otherwise.

    • WhittakerWalt

      No fallacy, but bringing in Aceves is never going to be a great move.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting
      • TheRealGreg

        And I still agree with it. Sorry.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          Aceves shouldn’t be pitching in any game they have a remote chance to win unless it’s absolutely unavoidable.

          • TheRealGreg

            Sacrifice a game for the good of the season. I do not want Robertson, Warren, Betances or any of the relievers to become Soctt Procter.

            • Tom

              Robertson threw 14 pitches yesterday and had 2 days off before that

              Warren (who should have been the choice) threw 19 pitches yesterday and had the 2 days off before that

              Betances threw 21 pitches yesterday and had 3 days off before that.

              So the new rule is “can’t pitch anyone good in back to back games when trailing by more than 1run?”

              All of these guys were relatively well rested.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Hahaha.

        • TheRealGreg

          I know I said that. And I still agree with the move. I don’t want to burn out the good relievers. Otherwise we will have no relievers at all.

          I was thinking as Phelps was getting up in pitch count that I hope he brings in Aceves first because he would be the one I would want to burn out first.

          Sacrifice a game for the good of a season. Otherwise we could see Scott Procter.

  • Wow

    Hahahaha

  • The Other Matt

    And that’s the way the cookie crumbles.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    Rookie ump.

  • Winter
  • BigBlueAL

    How the hell do you end the game on a pitch like that?? Awful.

  • Yangeddard Solarte

    If that idiot Girardi had brought in a better pitcher to keep it at 2 they would have tied the game and possibly won it like they did yesterday’s. Aceves has to go so Girardi can’t go to him anymore. No excuse for putting him in there. Would have gotten Phelpsy off the hook for an L that he didn’t deserve.

  • The Other Matt

    ‘DotF: A loss at every level’

    Literally, EVERY level.

  • fabricio

    Of course it ends up being the extra run that aceves gives up to cost us the game

  • bill

    Joe Girardi is not as good a manager as Joe Torre was… I’m sorry, he’s not… This isn’t to say I would still want Torre managing, he’s an old man, but I have more and more appreciation for him every year.

  • Howard Cosell

    A Good to Very Good GM – admits his mistakes – HOW MANY F*CKIN GAMES WILL TAKE FOR ACEVES TO BLOW BEFORE HE GETS

    REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALESED ?

    This guy was done last year – Move on – AAA has a hundred relievers better than this over the hill has been ………

    My God will either Cashman or Aceves have some pride an call it quits?