Game 47: Back on Track

(Jonathan Daniel/Getty)

(Jonathan Daniel/Getty)

The Yankees have run into some run-scoring problems the last few games, though I guess that isn’t surprising since three of the last four pitchers they’ve faced are Gerrit Cole, Jeff Samardzija, and Chris Sale. Even the fourth (Jason Hammel) is having a pretty good year. That said, guys like Jacoby Ellsbury, Alfonso Soriano, and Brian McCann are slumping pretty hard and they need to snap out of it. Soon, preferably.

Derek Jeter is, unsurprisingly, starting tonight’s game at shortstop, his 2,583rd career game at the position. That ties Hall of Famer Luis Aparicio for the second most in baseball history. Since the Cap’n is retiring at the end of the season, it is mathematically impossible for him to catch Omar Vizquel for the top spot on the all-time games played at shortstop list. Vizquel is at 2,709. Jeter will fall nine games short of the record if he were the start every game the rest of the season in the field. Anyway, here is the White Sox lineup and here is the Yankees lineup:

  1. LF Brett Gardner
  2. SS Derek Jeter
  3. CF Jacoby Ellsbury
  4. DH Mark Teixeira
  5. C Brian McCann
  6. 2B Yangervis Solarte
  7. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  8. 2B Brian Roberts
  9. 1B Kelly Johnson
    RHP Hiroki Kuroda

It’s chilly but sunny in Chicago with no threat of rain. May baseball weather, basically. The game is scheduled to begin at 8:10pm ET and you can watch on My9. Enjoy the game.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. nycsportzfan says:

    Hey Mike, thanks for the chat today. One question you didn’t get to, that I was curious about was your thoughts on adding another pitcher other then the big names(Hamels,Lee,Samardzjia..etc)?? More specifically Charlie Morton?

    • Mike Axisa says:

      The Pirates just signed him to extension over the winter, so I’m not sure if they will look to trade him now. Plus he’s another guy who relies on ground balls, so the Yankees’ infield defense might not be the best fit for him.

      • nycsportzfan says:

        Thanks. I didn’t know they signed him to a extension. I woulden’t let the groundball thing scare me away. It’d come down to what the Pirates wanted. I really like Morton.

  2. The Guns of Navarone says:

    I personally hope that Jeter is dropped in the lineup as soon as humanly possible against RHP. But I’m curious about what other people think about it. Is it a change that can even be proven to better the lineup? What I mean is… Would the statistical advantage of batting Jeter lower in the lineup be enough to even be worth fretting over?

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Depends who replaces him, really. Batting him eighth or ninth might equal something like seven or eight extra runs over the course of the season. Of course, in one individual game, it could make all the difference in the world.

      I’ve stopped caring. They’re not going to move him because he’s Derek Jeter and getting annoying gets me nowhere.

      • The Guns of Navarone says:

        Yup, that’s basically where I’m at. Getting more and more annoyed but wondering whether it’s even worth getting annoyed.

        I just feel like dropping him vs RHP only would help alleviate the media firestorm. Hell, he could lead off vs lefties. And Girardi could spin it as different lineups for different pitchers and not a straight demotion of an immortal player.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      It should probably happen, but who knows what real benefit there will be? Whether he’s killing rallies from the 2-hole or the 8-hole, he’s killing rallies.

  3. Chip Rodriguez says:

    I’m tempted to watch tonight’s game on the Chicago feed on mlb tv, just in hopes of an offensive explosion that leaves Hawk silent.

  4. vicki says:

    Vizcaino Vizquel is at 2,709.

    as i’ve mentioned a time or twelve in the past, i lovelovelove omar vizquel.

  5. The Other Matt says:

    Nothing but straight fastballs to Jeter here I suppose.

    • vicki says:

      got around on the 95, go figure.

      • The Other Matt says:

        I’m sure he’s reading the scouting reports that let him know that pitchers are throwing him nothing but high-velocity fastballs. Heck, he probably realized it without the reports.

  6. WhittakerWalt says:

    Again with the 1-pitch outs for Ells. Unreal.

  7. The Other Matt says:

    Nice, solid contact there by Jeter. But man did Adam Dunn look brutal over there at first.

  8. MartinRanger says:

    Since when does Noesi throw 95?!

  9. RkyMtnYank says:

    Amazing that Noesi can’t seem to put the breaking stuff together with that 93-95, have to think the pontential is still there some how.

  10. WhittakerWalt says:

    LOL my girlfriend just heard Sterling’s homerun call for McCann and ordered me to turn off the radio.

  11. No 2013 again says:

    Now that’s why they paid you big bucks McCann

  12. The Guns of Navarone says:


  13. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Thanks for contributing, Officer McCann!

  14. The Other Matt says:

    Officer McCann!

  15. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Now that’s the Hector Noesi I remember.

  16. The Other Matt says:

    Seeing Viciedo make the catch in right wearing #24 made me think of Jermaine Dye for a minute. He had some pretty good years with the ChiSox, and in KC and Oakland, too.

  17. Cuso says:

    Ok, Hirok. Run support afforded. Mow em down

  18. vicki says:

    hirok’n’roll, for old times’ sake.

  19. vicki says:


  20. Yangeddard Solarte says:

    McCann finally did something. There’s no reason they should lose this ballgame to Noesi. Hiroki needs to give them a quality outing.

  21. The Guns of Navarone says:

    WANTED: A Major League Infield

    Please contact the New York Yankees

    1E 161st Street
    Bronx, NY 10451

  22. No 2013 again says:

    If you are going to hit as bad as Roberts is.. you have to make plays on D.. what a waste

  23. ALZ says:

    damn, solarte has turned into a pretty good fielder.

    • vicki says:

      as soon as you think that he’ll flub something routine. but i think what he’s got going for him is a sharp learning curve.

    • RkyMtnYank says:

      I think he’s been pretty good, just not a natural 3b, rather see him be an above average 2bman!

      • ALZ says:

        Early on he missed several things that a routine 3B should have made. Now he it seems like he has worked on it, and is fine now.

  24. TheRealGreg says:

    His pitches have been up

  25. The Guns of Navarone says:

    It’s frustrating, it’s embarrassing, and it’s at least one game in EVERY SINGLE SERIES.

  26. No 2013 again says:

    this is awful… McCann with yet another ball past him

  27. The Other Matt says:

    Here in the first inning Kuroda’s control/command doesn’t seem to be there. Not too uncommon for pitchers, but hopefully it gets better in the next few innings.

  28. Cuso says:

    The was a great play by yangervis, too

  29. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Horrible blocking

  30. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    IF defense strikes again.

  31. ALZ says:

    Not worried. We will get 3 more next inning.

  32. The Other Matt says:

    Good play Gardy. Way to get Kuroda out of that inning.

  33. WhittakerWalt says:

    Christ, I could have caught that throw.

  34. TheRealGreg says:

    Did Brian Cashman really think this was going to work?

  35. ALZ says:

    chill. Noesi is awful, Just try and get Kuroda through 6.

  36. No 2013 again says:

    all-around good catcher, right? He’s terrible in every phase of the game

  37. nycsportzfan says:

    Whoa, nobody on the GDT with a crazy start like this?

  38. Rolling Doughnut says:

    E, PB, WP …in a row. WTF

  39. Cuso says:

    Vince Lombardi: “What the hell is going on out here?!?”

  40. BigBlueAL says:

    Yankee pitchers have to find a way to only allow batted balls to be hit to Gardner or Ellsbury.

  41. WhittakerWalt says:

    Can’t anybody play this game?

  42. ALZ says:

    It is so nice to see Soriano on the bench, where he belongs.

  43. The Guns of Navarone says:

    It’s one thing if you’re sacrificing defense to put Gary Sheffield, Jason Giambi, Jorge Posada and Bernie Williams in the lineup in their prime. This is ridiculous.

  44. ALZ says:

    Oh man. Our Rfer didn’t swing at those bad pitches?

  45. Cuso says:

    White Sox feed is showing Chris Sale stat line and commentary between every single batter

  46. TheRealGreg says:

    Fuck you Brian Roberts.

  47. No 2013 again says:

    It’s frustrating to watch guys like Roberts.. wish Cashman could have a different approach to building teams other than buying every mediocre over the hill veteran who can’t play anymore

    • ALZ says:

      typically he has a good approach though. He nowhere near as frustrating as Soriano.

    • TheRealGreg says:

      Been saying this for the last 2 YEARS

    • The Other Matt says:

      It is what it is. They didn’t have any imminent prospect to come and take over the reigns. As frustrating as it is to bear, I’d rather this for a year than a knee-jerk reaction of signing Omar Infante for four years. At the least, Rob Refsnyder might be an option next season, so there is some optimism.

      • The Guns of Navarone says:

        Do the Yankees have an infielder that is even three years away? Omar Infante wouldn’t have been the worst thing in the world. Rob Refsnyder??? I don’t share your optimism on him.

        • The Other Matt says:

          Granted, I’m high on him. But I’m not saying that he’ll be an all-star caliber player, but if he can transition to being a bit better than Roberts is now, that wouldn’t be terrible. I know we were fortunate to have Cano for a few years, but 2nd base isn’t exactly the strongest position in the league. Even Infante hit below league-average for two years prior to last season. Depending on what happens with A-Rod, or what they do to fill 3rd base moving forward, Solarte could possibly be an option at 2nd.

          • The Guns of Navarone says:

            Screw All Star, I’ll settle for defense and an ability to not embarrass himself at the plate. I feel like the Yankees have more 3B prospects than they do middle infielders. If Solarte can hold down 2B for a couple years that would be awesome.

    • The Guns of Navarone says:

      This is the way it’s been and looks to be the way it will be for some time. It’s truly a consequence of being more or less incapable of developing talent. Even the Yankees don’t have enough money to plug every hole with a super star. Therefore you get over the hill “superstar” has-beens off the scrap heap and hope for that “pinstripe magic” to turn their careers around.

      It’ll stop once the Yankees can plug a few more holes with their own, young, cost-controlled players.

    • roberto kelly johnson says:

      does young guys not hit the ball hard at fielders?

      • No 2013 again says:

        74 wRC+

        dude is flat out bad (and has 150 PA’s so far)

        • roberto kelly johnson says:

          I just dont think roberts is that big an issue on this team. But I see your point about yankees philosophy of relying on veterans vs throwing young guys in the fire. I really would like to see montogomery come up and see what he can do instead rolling the aceves or claiborne dice every few days to see if they are lucky that day.

          • roberto kelly johnson says:

            *not that big an issue

          • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

            Monty doesn’t seem like he’s doing all that well.
            Ton of walks.
            Low velocity.

            I don’t think he’d even be next in line if they did make a change.

    • nycsportzfan says:

      I think Cash has the right idea with alot of his signings and we should wait till the yrs over to make judgement. I mean, BROB was healthy to end the yr last season and looked good. He also is a speedy, switch-hitting, alittle pop, type hitter, which I think is the kinda players hes trying to get more of now. Not just one dimensional power hitters.

      And Kelly Johnson might not be off to a great start but can get hot, and carry a team for alittle while. Another signing thats 2 early to judge. I also like Cashman went for Ells this offseason. The fact Ells is a pure “hitter” who does have alittle pop, which could increase because of the short porch, and has oodles of speed. And then you got Tanaka whos a great signing.

      Either way, I like Cash’s approach and usually understand his moves. I really don’t complain much when a deal goes awry if I also liked it to begin with. The only way i’ll razz alittle bit is if I didn’t like the move right from the get go. I honestly loved this past offseason. Shoot, I got Yanks going to WS against Atlanta.

  48. Need Pitching & Hitting says:


  49. The Guns of Navarone says:

    And Kuroda is all over the place so far. He’s needed a good bit of luck getting balls hit right at people or bad swings from bad hitters in this lineup in order to get outs.

    Every start that goes by where he doesn’t “have it” gets me more and more worried

    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

      Seems like even in his great stretch last year, it often took him an inning or two to settle in and figure out what was working that day.
      Hopefully that’s what’s going on so far today.

  50. nycsportzfan says:

    What do you know, first pitcher not named Hammel, Samardzjia, or Sale and we score 3runs in the 1st.

  51. The Guns of Navarone says:

    Cappy can still get down the line in a hurry, that’s for sure

  52. Chip Rodriguez says:

    Jeter can’t hit it out of the infield, huh?

  53. nycsportzfan says:

    Way to hustle Cap!

  54. No 2013 again says:

    There’s a simple solution to this problem debated at the YES broadcast, simply let Garder or Els leadoff (the other hits second) and move Jeter down

  55. lightSABR says:

    Hawk’s complaining about the officiating is hilarious.

    But you know what? I don’t mind that he’s such a big White Sox fan. I figure, somebody’s gotta be, right?

  56. BigBlueAL says:

    Great at-bat by Ellsbury.

  57. TheRealGreg says:

    They have to get him out of that 3 hole.

  58. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Swung at ball 4

  59. WhittakerWalt says:

    First two runners get on, never move.

  60. nycsportzfan says:

    Dang, sucks not getting something that half inn. Set up perfectly for the meat of the order.

  61. No 2013 again says:

    work the count full, take a soriano swing at a pitch near his eyes.. only 4 more years after this one!

  62. TheRealGreg says:

    I would rather Ellsbury had bunted the runners over.

  63. ButtCock says:

    Why is this site such…shit?

  64. nycsportzfan says:

    Wow, that was the sick pitch to get Beckham!

  65. The Other Matt says:

    Someone should tell Michael Kay that Santiago was just demoted this week after having an ERA over 5 and being 0-6.

  66. vicki says:

    i’m so confused. all my life i’ve hoped for a double-play ball in this situation.

  67. nycsportzfan says:

    Nice play Kelly.(sarcasm)

  68. 28 this year says:

    The best defender in the infield for the Yankees is the 1st base umpire

  69. The Guns of Navarone says:

    WANTED: A Major League Infield

    Please contact the New York Yankees

    1E 161st Street
    Bronx, NY 10451

  70. The Other Matt says:

    Kuroda is about one pitch away from his stat line accurately reflecting his terrible control.

  71. TheRealGreg says:

    Defense has been bad, but Kuroda has to step up.

  72. roberto kelly johnson says:

    jesus how did johnson miss that…

  73. WhittakerWalt says:


  74. TheRealGreg says:

    Ruled a base hit

  75. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    IF defense strikes again. And again.

    Kelly Johnson is hellibad.

  76. nycsportzfan says:

    How is that 1st pitch not a strike?

  77. vicki says:

    what do you throw to get him to swing under it? curve?

  78. nycsportzfan says:

    Come on Kuroda. This is when the Bulldog comes out to play!

  79. RkyMtnYank says:

    I dunno, still looked foul to me,

  80. RkyMtnYank says:

    and two strikes called a balls

  81. The Guns of Navarone says:

    No bueno

  82. roberto kelly johnson says:

    yankees pitchers has to be frustrated pitching in front of this defense all year

  83. The Guns of Navarone says:

    Is this umpire serious?

  84. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Where the fuck was that pitch?

  85. nycsportzfan says:

    A bit nervous here. Dunn’s having a good yr. Come on Kuroda! Get that 2nd strike so you end this fool with the Split.

  86. nycsportzfan says:

    Holy Shit, he got em with the Split, but boy was it hit Way to go Kuroda!!

  87. TheRealGreg says:

    All we need to do is get to the bullpen in which all the good pitchers are rested and ready to go.

  88. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    2 walks for Ichiro.
    That’s the kind of thing that gets you DFA’d multiple times in a season.

  89. vicki says:

    ichi takes two walks in one game. these are the end times.

  90. nycsportzfan says:

    Come on A’s! Down 3-2 in the 8th to Toronto.

  91. Kelly Johnson at the Mendoza line…ewww

  92. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    That has to hurt.

  93. MartinRanger says:

    Did Brian’s knee just explode?

  94. The Guns of Navarone says:

    In case some of you didn’t already love Dellin Betances enough.

    AWESOME stuff here from Jeff Sullivan.

    Some tasty tidbits… Betances has 15 called strikeouts from his breaking ball, the most in baseball, starter or reliever!! Betances has a higher called strikeout rate than Justin Verlander’s overall strikeout rate, at 18 percent. Hitters have swung at his breaking ball LESS in the zone than out of the zone.

  95. nycsportzfan says:

    I seen this graphic on ESPN that said 65pct of the teams that made the playoffs the past 3yrs were in the playoffs after 40games into the Season.

    It was meant to show people how much the games in the early part of the season matter.

    • MartinRanger says:

      I think that’s relevant, but should also be considered in the context that none of the AL East teams, except possibly Toronto, are actually playing at the level their talent level would suggest is possible/are dealing with a hurricane of injuries.

      I’m not ready to accept that the 2014 AL East is flat out mediocre. It runs contrary to everything we’ve seen the past five years.

      • nycsportzfan says:

        Yeah, I think hes just saying teams in the playoffs after 40games usually stick and end up in the playoffs. The Yanks are right there, so obviously were in the thick of things regardless, but still 65pct is a big number that will be locked in after only 40games.

        I picked Yanks/Braves for the WS before the Season and i’m sticking with it. The Yanks technically aren’t in the postseason as of today. So, of course you take it with a grain of salt when your as close to postseason as we are.

      • The Guns of Navarone says:

        Tons of injuries early on too in the ALE. Moore, Hellickson, Cobb (recently came back), Weiters, Machado, Reyes… I think those are the main ones. And all of them are key pieces in the strength of each particular team; Tampa’s rotation, Baltimore’s lineup and losing your table-setter and leadoff man in Reyes.

        That’s not to mention all the injuries on the Yankees either.

  96. TheRealGreg says:

    3 of the last 4 years this team has sucked with RISP.

  97. Quick off topic question…

    …anyone know how much a typoed Jets plaque would go for on EBay? I got ahold of 2003 “New Yoek” Jets plaque last week. Obviously the 2003 Jets were terrible (6-10), but I am not a Jets fan and my friends don’t want it.

    • The Guns of Navarone says:

      Is it signed or anything? In my experience, typoed collectors items sometimes add to their value, making them more unique.

      I’m not sure it applies to a 2003 Jets plaque, though haha.

      • It’s completely unopened. In perfect condition.

        I do need money, but yeah, I’m worried the crappiness of the team would drag the amount down.

        • The Guns of Navarone says:

          Well it’s worth posting it on EBay to see what someone would offer. You may run into a diehard fan looking to add to an already big collection of memorabilia with some obscure, unique stuff.

          • The problem is what I want to offer I think is too high for what it’s really worth.

            I am in need of money something fierce, but I think $125 is a bit too high for a lowly plaque.

  98. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Really seems like they should have a lot more than 3 runs by now.

  99. WhittakerWalt says:

    Really letting Noesi off the hook so far.

  100. WhittakerWalt says:

    Ma and Pa lamenting we don’t get to see Jose Abreu in this series, say “well we’ll see him when they come to New York, I don’t know when that is, but…”

    It must be really hard to dig up that Yankee schedule from the broadcast booth.

  101. TheRealGreg says:

    Another pitch up

  102. nycsportzfan says:

    A’s with tying run on 3rd base with 2outs in the 9th down 3-2 to the Bluejays.

    • nycsportzfan says:

      Jannsen got em. Game over. Jays win. Bums!

      • The Other Matt says:

        For all the people that thought the Jays were the one team that wouldn’t win the division, they sure as hell look for real. There offense is for real, no doubt. If they can maintain some consistency pitching then they could very well win the division. I’m sure they’ll be in the market for a starting pitcher before the trade deadline.

  103. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    IF defense FTW

  104. nycsportzfan says:

    God Damn it man! Fucking bullshit chooper!

  105. WhittakerWalt says:


  106. roberto kelly johnson says:

    cmon johnson

  107. Chip Rodriguez says:

    Ugh, Kelly Johnson is a butcher at 1B.

  108. Long-Past-His-Day-Rod says:

    Jesus fucking Christ. Pull Kelly Johnson off 1B right now.

  109. TheRealGreg says:

    Blue Jays are the class of the AL East so far. Only team with a positive run differential

    • ALZ says:

      Do you seriously think Buehrle will continue with a 2.16 era?
      His xFIP isn’t improved either, he is due for a huge regression. Their rotation is pretty mediocre.

      • The Other Matt says:

        But their lineup is for real. If they stay healthy, they should put up enough runs to cover for their pitching.

  110. nycsportzfan says:

    Man, Kuroda has trouble finishing these innings off without getting into trouble first. Again, huge out to get outta this unscored upon for Kuroda.

  111. MartinRanger says:

    I’d prefer Giambi in his later years than Kelly Johnson right now.

    This is embarrassing. And could cost us the game with the offense still full of fail.

    Better be the last time we see KJ at 1st for a while.

    • roberto kelly johnson says:

      atleast giambi hit enough to justify being a butcher at first but johnson is hitting like his defense.

  112. BigBlueAL says:

    This is not a fun team to watch.

    • roberto kelly johnson says:

      nah this is actually one of the recent teams i enjoy watching. They are not playing that well but i like the balance of the team. The D is killing me tho.

  113. ALZ says:

    We should just clone Tanaka.

  114. nycsportzfan says:

    There ya go Kuroda! Come on em with the Heat and set em up. Hes got Beckham set up 1-2.. Hes gotta get em!

  115. The Guns of Navarone says:

    It doesn’t need to be said

  116. TheRealGreg says:

    That would have been a hit anyway

  117. MartinRanger says:

    Hurray he caught it! *bronx cheer*

  118. nycsportzfan says:

    Hell yeah! The bulldog(no offense Orel) is getting er done with hit counts. This is so typical of Hiroki. But when said and done you’ll see 6innings with 3or less runs on the board.

  119. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    If only Kuroda could induce a weak ground ball to get out of this jam…

  120. vicki says:

    if you want the grounder fielded right, field it yourself.

  121. nycsportzfan says:

    Somebody take this guy Yard please. We scored 3in the 1st, but its time to at least get another one. Its been long enough. Even if not by a HR, lets get er done!

  122. nycsportzfan says:

    That dude talking about Tulowitzki stealing signs hasen’t been watching how good hes been on Defense as well. He made a sick play tonight and almost made a super sick play that shoulden’t even of been remotely close for a normal human.

    What a player.

  123. roberto kelly johnson says:

    i think ells is starting to come out of his slump.

  124. WhittakerWalt says:

    How is it possible for one man to so consistently hit the ball on the ground?

  125. WhittakerWalt says:

    “Night, night” says the offense.

  126. The Guns of Navarone says:

    This umpire gets paid to do this. He’s called pitches quite literally down the middle for a ball. Then that pitch is a strike.

  127. Wow says:

    You would think that at some point this team would stop relying on Roberts, Johnson, and Soriano so much. Defensively and especially offensively the contribute nothing.

    Even in this division I can’t see how they expect to have success.

  128. TheRealGreg says:

    Brian Cashman has created an old, slow, poor hitting team.

  129. BigBlueAL says:

    Why cant the Yankees produce pitchers like Hector Noesi.

  130. word says:

    Umpire and his strike zone is a disgrace.

    That last one to Tex never in a million years was it over the plate.

    Bad enough watching us struggle to have quality at bats without this useless cretin calling strikes like that one.

    Sooner the technology replaces these umpires the better too often they ruin the game with their strike zone interpretation.

  131. WhittakerWalt says:

    I’m ready to take a Mulligan on the Ellsbury signing now.

  132. Screw you DJ Reyburn.

  133. TheRealGreg says:

    He has created a team that is not fun to watch at all.

  134. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Well, fuck.

  135. The Other Matt says:


  136. word says:

    Well done ump your team got a 2 run HR thanks to your cheating strike zone

  137. nycsportzfan says:

    Thanks Kuroda. Stake you to a 3 run lead and you can’t hold it. Worst part is, gassed em as a Bulldog who figures out how to get outta jams. That one fucking hurt.

  138. TheRealGreg says:

    Fuck you Brian Cashman

  139. WhittakerWalt says:

    For the record I would have left Kuroda in, too.

  140. Lukasz says:

    Horse dicks. There goes the lead

  141. TheRealGreg says:

    Once again with two outs…

  142. BigBlueAL says:

    Its so bad right now I actually miss watching the Knicks. Seriously.

    • nycsportzfan says:

      This game could still be a Win. And in fact, it better be. Were down 1run with 4innings to go. We got this if we hold em to nothing else the rest of the game.

  143. word says:

    Well that was as much of a strike as the one he gave Tex out on.

    Total incompetence by this umpire

  144. TheRealGreg says:


  145. roberto kelly johnson says:


  146. Wow says:

    I’m willing to bet that the 2014 Yankees will actually end up with a worst record than last year.

  147. The Guns of Navarone says:

    Borderline unwatchable team right now. Or basically all year. Added “right now” in hopes that will change.

  148. Can Kuroda please get himself ejected when he’s done? I want to see Reyburn mad.

  149. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    An ace and a bunch of backenders.

    Need (GOOD) Pitching.

    Oh, and Need Hitting as well.

    And may as well add defense whilst they’re at it.

  150. Ron says:

    Good. These clowns can’t hit noesi, they don’t deserve to win.

  151. nycsportzfan says:

    Kurodas freaking done. Coulden’t just finish out the 5th? Jesus.

  152. TheRealGreg says:


    • WhittakerWalt says:

      Or 32 year olds like Omar Infante?
      You’re ridiculous.

      • TheRealGreg says:

        I would rather have Infante than Brian Roberts. But I would rather have developed a second baseman so that when Cano is let go, we have another second baseman ready to go.

        • WhittakerWalt says:

          Because it’s just that easy. If you were running the show we’d have a future all-star at every position in the minors, just waiting to come up and rake.

          • TheRealGreg says:

            They had 7 years to draft somebody. They had time to draft a basic replacement for Jeter as well.

            • WhittakerWalt says:

              So you actually think they don’t WANT to have a decent farm system? Who were all these great players they should have developed? Did Brian Cashman have a legitimate shot at Troy TulowitKi and just decided not to? Passed on Andrelton Simmons because fuck it? What would you have done? Not just what do you wish for, what would you have done? Remember, it has to have been something possible.

              • TheRealGreg says:

                No. They just suck at it.

                • WhittakerWalt says:

                  That’s not an answer to my question. Anyone can say they haven’t developed a good farm system. Tell me what you’d have done. It has to be something within the realm of possibility.

                  • TheRealGreg says:

                    I’m not a GM. I just see where baseball is going. I see young talent coming up all over the place from their farm systems.

                    Not from the Bronx. And that’s a fucking problem.

                    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

                      I just see where baseball is going. I see young talent coming up all over the place from their farm systems.

                      This is new?

                    • TheRealGreg says:

                      Apparently to the Yankees who, while they have tried, have failed at developing a farm system.

          • The Guns of Navarone says:

            C’mon, this team simply does not develop players relative to the rest of the league. It starts and ends with Brian Cashman. I’m a fan of Ca$h for the most part, but that critique of this organization is valid.

            • WhittakerWalt says:

              You need good draft picks, for the most part. If you’re the Rays or the Royals or the Pirates, you get those picks.

              • TheRealGreg says:

                Oh no. That excuse only goes so far. There are many competent major leagers drafted in the second round and beyond.

                Look no further than St. Louis.

                • WhittakerWalt says:

                  That’s still not a specific answer to what you would do. “Develop better players” is a child’s answer.

                  • TheRealGreg says:

                    As Owner, I would hire a guy who has a background in player personnel. Because that’s where the game is going. I’ve named a few before on this site.

  153. nycsportzfan says:

    How is that not a fucking strike???? WWWWTTTTFFFF!

  154. The Other Matt says:

    Once again, another sub-par start by Kuroda on the road.

    • The Other Matt says:

      Never mind. He actually hasn’t had too bad of numbers in his few starts on the road this year.

  155. roberto kelly johnson says:

    they really need to fix this defense…the trickle down effect of the shitty play is killing them.

  156. TheRealGreg says:

    Axisa said himself this afternoon. “The game has changed. The Yankees haven’t.” Pure and simple. Been saying it for 2 YEARS.

  157. The Guns of Navarone says:

    When is it reasonable to say they signed Kuroda one year too many, and he’s finally turned into a pumpkin? End of June? July?

    He just plain doesn’t have something, whether it be the slider, the fastball, the command, in every start.

  158. nycsportzfan says:

    We better answer back in the next half inning! Sick of putting guys on against this scrub and not bring em in. Best be at least tied after the top 6th.

  159. nycsportzfan says:

    Nice catch Cappy! Now we tie or take lead!

  160. ropeadope says:

    Hiroki deserved better. Tex picked a bad night to require 1/2 day off. Believe offense will inflict further damage against Noesi & bullpen.

  161. Chip Rodriguez says:

    Hector Noesi has turned in a quality start.

    Be ashamed, 2014 Yankees.

    Be very ashamed.

  162. nycsportzfan says:

    Ok, that was disturbingly frustrating.

  163. So apparently what is a strike to Yangervis Solarte is a ball to Tyler Flowers.

    I would argue White Sox bias, except that there’s a number of articles about Reyburn and the White Sox being at odds.

  164. The Guns of Navarone says:

    Well, simply put, the Yankees are a bad team. Perhaps not a “bad” team, but not a playoff team in most years. I think it’s fairly obvious at this point. I personally would like to have Morales as soon as humanly possible. This team can use his bat and he can hit. Period. Also, losing Teixeira again for a length of time would be catastrophic. It’s important to get him rest. It also puts Kelly Johnson at 3B where he is more effective. Then you have to hope Pineda can come back and continue pitch well. Combine that with McCann busting out sometime soon, and things could look a heck of a lot better in 6 weeks time.

  165. Cuso says:

    So, have I missed anything tonight?

  166. No 2013 again says:

    Noesi, quality start. Only this pathetic team could manage such feat

  167. nycsportzfan says:

    Of course they call that 1-0 pitch to BROB a strike 2inches off the outside.

  168. nycsportzfan says:

    I swear every game we have a ton of a BB’s, nothing comes of em. We got tons of walks, lets freaking score some god damn runs! Holy shit!

  169. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Boston lost again. So at least there’s that.

  170. Cuso says:

    Wow, abandoning the DH in the 7th inning, huh? Well, it worked.

  171. ALZ says:

    Not this guy again…

  172. nycsportzfan says:

    OK boys, now we get the runs. We aren’t losing this game! No freaking way!

  173. The Other Matt says:

    I know it’s probably been a rule in the game since the DH was implemented but, I think if you move the DH into the field then you should be allowed to keep the DH if the player the original DH replaced in the field moves into the position of DH. It came to mind because now the Yankees will have a bit of a situation to figure out at 1B, but this is something that I’ve thought about many times before, and not once does it not make sense.

  174. nycsportzfan says:

    I’m freaking out. I bet on the Yanks tonight. Once every couple wk’s i’ll put alittle on the Yanks. THis being on of those cases. Nothing major. 138 to win 100

    • The Guns of Navarone says:

      Lol every time you’re on here you’re talking about that “little wager” you put on the Yanks. Maybe nycsportzfan has a little problem?

      Kidding of course

      • nycsportzfan says:

        Nah, I get bored with just watching sometimes , and if I really like the Yanks, i’ll throw a 100 on em. Try not to put much more then that on em when I do it.

  175. Well, now Ellsbury gets to face a righty.

  176. Cuso says:

    Screw it. Suicide squeeze here.

  177. Cuso says:

    Wait…so we need Derek Jeter to hit a fly ball?

  178. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Not sure a like bunting with one of the few hitters who is actually hitting.

  179. The Other Matt says:

    Derek Jeter, now is not the time for sympathy if you don’t come through here. We need a hit, preferably one that leaves the infield. At least a sac fly.

  180. roberto kelly johnson says:

    why bunt with gardner who is the hottest hitter next to tex on the whole team plus giving away an out

  181. nsalem says:

    I hated it

  182. nycsportzfan says:

    Tie game!!!! Wild Pitch!!!

  183. TheRealGreg says:

    White Sox totally botched that

  184. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Thanks for the help.
    The Yankees sure do need it.

  185. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    And we’re back in this fucking game.

  186. Frankie Beans says:

    Same old Joe G. Kelly Johnson had played 38 games this year and is batting .200. The Yankees have played how many games? 46. Once again a bench player getting to play almost every day. This is where Joe fails as a manager no set just ain’t going to cut it. No matter what you tell yourself Joe is in over his head with his lineup. He plays his bench players way to often and that’s something a winning team doesn’t do.

  187. ALZ says:

    Now Kay can shut up about Ells and Rbi’s.

  188. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Oh hey guys, we’re just winning. Nothing to see here.

  189. The Guns of Navarone says:

    This is a good game for the ol’ OBP

  190. nycsportzfan says:

    Thats what i’m talking about!

  191. TheRealGreg says:

    Ventura knew what Girardi was going to do and made the move accordingly.

    And they botched it by him walking Jeter.

  192. BigBlueAL says:

    Brendan Ryan plays 1B in a 1-run game while Jeter and a limping Roberts play SS/2B. Alrighty then.

    • The Guns of Navarone says:

      That’s what happens when an organization has no sense of itself.

      • nsalem says:

        Are you referring to the organization that has won the most regular season games over the last 10 and 20 years and has only missed the playoffs twice in the last 20 years.

  193. TheRealGreg says:

    Unfortunately, that’s the ONLY thing they’ve properly

  194. Chip Rodriguez says:

    jeez, they’re putting Ryan at 1B while Jeter remains at SS?

  195. The Other Matt says:

    I know it happened at the game Sunday, I was there, and I know Derek Jeter isn’t going to play anything but shortstop, but isn’t ironic that we have one of the best defensive shortstops playing first base, while one of the worst defensive shortstops continues to man the position. Joe Girardi said he wasn’t managing a farewell tour, but he sure seems to be managing farewell feelings.

  196. The Other Matt says:

    Not that anyone cares about what he thinks, but I wonder what Brendan Ryan thinks when Girardi has him go play first base while he stares over at Jeter at shortstop.

  197. nsalem says:

    Wonder if Konerko gets the same treatment on the Chicago boards that some give to Jeter here. Similar situation.

  198. The Other Matt says:

    Got to give Ichiro credit, he continues to swing the bat well. As well as a couple walks tonight. Pretty good.

    • nycsportzfan says:

      Without a doubt. Also offers speed running and stealing bases and good defense. This role just felt like one he’d excel at when I thought about it in the offseason. Hes like a perfect weapon off the bench. ANd on rare occasion, he can sneak one out.

      • The Other Matt says:

        I give you credit, you did say during the off-season that this would be a good role for him. I tended to agree with you, like I said had it not been for the fact the Yankees signed him to the 2 year deal after 2012, and they had signed him to be a 4th/5th OF during this off-season people would’ve loved the move.

  199. nycsportzfan says:

    Another marvelous game for Ichiro!

  200. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    So 1st and 2nd, no outs, hot hitter up = bunt
    Same situation, Roberts up = swing away

    • TheRealGreg says:

      And the first bad decision worked. Hence:

      Baseball: Bad decisions work, good decisions fail

      • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

        Anything: Sometimes bad decisions work, sometimes good decisions fail.
        Anything: Good decisions work out more often than bad decisions.

    • Tom says:

      When you have a lead late, you play for the big inning and don’t worry about tack on runs

      When you are trailing earlier on, you want to minimize the chance of a big inning and play for 1 run.

      It’s Girardi logic; in addition to the absurdity of the hitters that were up, as you point out.

  201. nycsportzfan says:

    Again, this offense isn’t terrible. Alot of times, you run into good pitching. I know its frustrating but you see the difference. 5runs with 2guys on and no out in the 8th tonight.

    • The Guns of Navarone says:

      They’re not terrible. They’re average, which is terrible by Yankees standards.

    • nsalem says:

      Last year was the worst offense we had in the last twenty years. This years offense is the second worst. League wise it may be average, but for the fan who has been actually watching the games for the last 20 years it really sucks. If your satisfied with a team that may win 82 to 87 games and doesn’t make the playoffs I guess the term not so terrible is appropriate. Glad your not suffering watching this.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        If you’re “suffering” you take baseball too seriously.

        More seriously, though: Have you SEEN the rest of the AL East? The playoffs are a distinct possibility.

        • nsalem says:

          I invest my time and money watching these games and yes I take it seriously though suffering may not have been the correct term. Frustrated is a better term. Yes I have seen the rest of the AL east, central and west and also the national league. I realize parity has taken hold, but even though we are in the race now if the Yankees keep playing like this I don’t think we can sustain this W-L record. By luck they might win 83 or 84 games but playing like this their is a strong possibility they could wind up around the 77 or 78 mark. I’ve seen plenty of your comment and you have seemed quite frustrated the way this is going also.

          • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

            Oh, I absolutely am frustrated, but I’ve also maintained that with the rest of the division also being shit we still have a very good chance of making the playoffs.

            That home run hasn’t helped my case much, though.

      • Frankie Beans says:

        I have them at 89-90 wins. Last year I hit the nail on the head with their wins and no post season.

    • nsalem says:

      By the way did you see the 3 previous games we played in Chicago where our offense generated 7 runs in 31 innings a couple of them being unearned. Wouldn’t you call that terrible.

  202. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Nicely faked.
    Is that reviewable?

  203. Leury Garcia…hopefully not as annoying Avasail Garcia, who is thankfully out for the season.

  204. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Horrible throw

    Even a mediocre throw likely gets him.

  205. nycsportzfan says:

    One more strike DROB! HOpefully we will get a tack on in the 9th with Jeets, Ells, and Tex coming up.

  206. nycsportzfan says:

    Got em with the Hook! Thats what I was saying to throw over at my place! I knew that fool would chase! Heck ya, DROB!

  207. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Strikes please.

  208. nycsportzfan says:

    Uht oh. Nerve racking time. Come on DROB, do your thing. Just gotta get this one guy for now.

  209. BigBlueAL says:

    I didnt like the Ellsbury signing when it happened. I started to love it after the 1st month of the season. I beginning to dislike it again lol.

  210. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Gonna be a white knuckler, I see.

  211. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Well that sucked.

  212. nycsportzfan says:

    How did he hit that? Please god, let the Yanks win this one.

  213. TheRealGreg says:

    Now the questions will begin

  214. BigBlueAL says:


  215. WhittakerWalt says:

    Both hits on 0-2 pitches. You just have to pitch smarter than that. Not much more to say.
    Time to drink.

  216. nycsportzfan says:

    wow, My heart just got ripped outta my chest. Are you fucking kidding me? DROB throws a freaking fastball down broadway 0-2. Thats just crazy.

  217. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    And the mass suicide begins. Form an orderly line before jumping, please.

    • nsalem says:

      Oh don’t take it so seriously.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        Well played, though I didn’t say I’d be the one jumping. It was more a commentary on all of the people who would inevitably start freaking out after a frustrating loss like this.

  218. Chip Rodriguez says:


    And Nuno pitches tomorrow.

    Double ugh.

  219. Cuso says:

    How do you give him an 0-2 fastball?

    • nycsportzfan says:

      Totally uncalled for brain fart. You just can’t have a brain fart like that with Dunn up and a runner on 1st. That was a cocky pitch if I ever saw one. Just think you don’t gotta go the normal route of trying to get em to chase a pitch on 0-2 and try and slip a heater past him real quick. 92 isn’t that hard to catch up to DROB, when your in a 0-2 count.

  220. Dro413 says:

    Ahh Mariano come out of retirement!!!

  221. Yangeddard Solarte says:

    They can’t even win 1 run games anymore! THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR LOSING THIS BALLGAME TO HECTOR NOESI. I’m sick of this. Negative run differential and now they can’t even win the close ones.

  222. BigBlueAL says:

    This team is gonna be below .500 by the time they return to NY next weekend.

  223. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    I blame Noesi.
    He didn’t fill his embedded Yankee role well enough.

    Not that he didn’t try.

  224. nycsportzfan says:

    God forbid they tack on a fucking run. Just super frustrating. DROB gets away with throwing juicy strikes that get missed alot. I just don’t get why you don’t throw a hook on 0-2? I just can’t imagine not burying a hook to a power hitter in 0-2 count. It boggles my mind..

  225. WhittakerWalt says:

    As bad as that was, I can think of something worse: listening to the Hawk Harrelson call of Dunn’s homer.

  226. Wow says:

    New lows. I’m back to really not caring, feeling sorry for this team and wondering how the FO plans to bring this back from mediocrity.

  227. Mt says:

    I called that one as soon as viciedo got on – I felt Dunn would do the walk-off and he did although never dreamed it would be on an 0-2 pitch.

    I think somebody put it well – God forbid they score a tack-on run.

  228. Zach says:

    Let’s face it folks, this is not a postseason team.
    Our offense sucks, and our pitching can’t protect leads given to them.
    There is NO excuse for losing tonight’s game, none.

    • Frankie Beans says:

      Someone with brains around here. They are a 89-90 win team and that’s stretching it. It boggles my mind that a lot of people and this teams manager says it’s to early. The funny part is losses add up and when you lose games to guys on the hill they are a complete joke you gotta take a step back and say wooo what’s going on here.

      I put a lot of blame on Joe coming in here and managing the way he does. I’m sorry if people don’t agree but you need a set 1-9 on a daily basis and when your team is build around 4 Dh’s you are setup to fail.

      • Frankie Beans says:

        Go look at the way the 1996-2000 Yankees were built 1-9 guys played day in and day out. I dunno what happened to the Yankees but they have became accustom to playing shit way to often and mixing and matching way to often. Joe is in a love affair with his bench players and this go back way before anyone on this team has gotten hurt. His mixing and matching is killing this team along with his managing.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          You mean the 1996-2000 Yankees that platooned Tim Raines, Darryl Strawberry, Wade Boggs, Chili Davis, Charlie Hayes, Cecil Fielder, Gerald Williams, Jim Leyritz, Joe Girardi, Jorge Posada, et al? Yeah they had a set 1-9 every day.

          • Frankie Beans says:

            In 1996 none of them played more then 36 games. By the way Boggs was a starter who played in 132 games. Pretty solid for a starter I’d say. Kelly shit head Johnson 40 games in the season blew right past all of them. Hitting .200 and still getting into those game cuz Joe just loves mixing and matching and getting those bench players to much time.

            Keep making excuses for a poorly run team.

      • Paisa says:

        ” you need a set 1-9 on a daily basis and when your team is build around 4 Dh’s you are setup to fail.”

        First, you don’t need a set 1-9 to be successful – just look at OAK and TB over the past five years. Secondly, how do you equate roster construction to being Joey G’s fault?

        • Frankie Beans says:

          He’s the manager he makes the lineup while that other shit head Cashman get him other teams misfit they gave up on. The more Cash give Joe shit Joe will continue to play shit.

          Yea go take a peak at the 1996-2000 Yankees and you tell me how that lineup was constructed.

          • Paisa says:

            The 96-2000 Yanks are the exception to basically every other team constructed in the history of the game

          • Frankie Beans says:

            Oaklaand hasn’t won squat yet with their current lineup / Roster. Let’s talk when they win or where they are at the end of the season. Now you tell me about those 1996-2000 Yankees and how that lineup was constructed and where it got them.

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