Wednesday Night Open Thread


The Yankees are still out on the West Coast for another few days, so the regular game thread will be along in a couple hours. Use this as your open thread in the meantime. The Mets are playing, ESPN is airing the Red Sox and Orioles, and the (hockey) Rangers will try to avoid being swept in Game Four of the Stanley Cup Finals. Talk about those games or anything else right here.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. The Other Matt says:

    If last night proves to be a precursor, consider this as the DotF In-Game Update Thread.

  2. Charles R. says:

    Wow. That change of scenery has really worked for Hughes huh? Went seven scoreless today with 9ks against that Blue Jays offense. Overall numbers now at 7-2, 3.17ERA with a 70/8 K/BB ratio over 82.1IP.

    • The Other Matt says:

      Watched some of the game earlier on MLB Network and he was lights out. Can’t even say it was Target Field this time or against a mediocre offense. That kind of performance, against that potent of an offense in that ball park does yield its share of home runs is pretty darn good. Although the Blue Jays have been struggling offensively, of late. So maybe he caught them at a good time. But either way, it was another very good performance for Phil Hughes. I have to believe he is in line to make the all-star game.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner says:

        Good for him. He’s done it before. The trick for him will be to keep it going.

        He was frustrating, but I will always want him to succeed. Just not against us.

  3. Mike Myers says:

    Can we make this Rob Ref day? Expectations through the rooooooofff!

    Sterling – Hooome run….a ringer from rob!

  4. The Other Matt says:

    Matt Kemp just got ran against the Reds. So much for him helping my fantasy team tonight.

    • vicki says:

      i was watching. too bad, but it was a bad call.

      • The Other Matt says:

        I agree. It was terrible. But like Joel Sherman said his frustration is probably accumulating with the rumors of him being traded, the injuries, being moved from out of CF, etc. Either way it was a bad call.

  5. ALZ says:

    Cervelli is the 1B in Trenton tonight, and Petey is catching.

    • The Other Matt says:

      I was wondering if he would actually get some time in at 1B like Girardi said he might. Interesting that O’Brien is behind the plate. I really thought that ship was beginning to sail, altogether, as of late.

      • ALZ says:

        I think they are just using him to get ab in on Sanchez’s days off. Even if you don’t see him as a future catcher I still like it because it means that he could be a backup bc if ever needed. Seems they are looking at what the Rays/Cards/A’s have been doing in positional flexibility. Austin/O’brien are spending time in several positions.

        • The Other Matt says:

          Yeah, I don’t believe that if/when O’Brien reaches the major league level it will be as a catcher, but it can’t hurt to have him as an emergency option, third catcher. Like you said, I see the A’s are carrying three catchers with Jaso, Norris, and Vogt. And I think I saw Vogt play right field during a game last week.

          I saw last week on the YES pre-game show that when Jack Curry was speaking with one of the writers from Baseball America, they likened O’Brien to Jim Leyritz. A guy who will never really make his living behind the plate, but just try to find him some place so he can get AB’s because his power is legit.

  6. ALZ says:

    Nice to see the jays are starting to tumble. Their pitching has been way outperforming, and now everyone but Buehrle is big time regressing.

  7. vicki says:

    so what about adrian beltre? will the rangers deal him?

    even if they figure they’ll contend next year, i’d think if they’re out of it in july and somebody offers them a top-50 and a top-100 that’d be too good for them to pass up for the sake of his age 36 season. wonder what we would have to ship.

    so many questions. of course we all dream of refsnyder, though i’m trying to remain rational. and i like mike’s release roberts/platoon johnson & sizemore idea fine as well, provided roberts’s offense doesn’t improve. and then there’s arod. but beltre is a big mother bat for instant impact. reasonably affordable next year, at 18M. anyway, just window-shopping.

    • The Other Matt says:

      I can’t see it, for our sake. Too many circumstances, I believe, that won’t allow it to happen. If he is made available, I believe another team will be prepared and more equipped to offer a better package for him. Also, you have to think what that will mean for A-Rod next year, like you said. I know some people think he won’t play a game again, but the fact remains he is under contract for a lot of money, and I don’t think the Yankees will be prepared to just eat that kind of money to have him walk. No matter how much they hate A-Rod and would like to be done with him. Don’t get me wrong, I would love to have Beltre. He is a tremendous fielder and would have a field day in Yankee Stadium.

      Like you said, referring to Mike’s article about the possible platoon situation at third, I would be in favor of that. I honestly would be in favor of any situation that Kelly Johnson more ABs. This guy is lucky to play once a week as of late. There needs to be more days, at least maybe twice a week, where KJ is in the lineup against a right-hander at 3B and Solarte is at 2B, with Roberts on the bench. But that’s Girardi’s call obviously. And I’ve heard rumors that the Yankees have made KJ available on the trade market, so make of that what you may.

      • ALZ says:

        And then hopefully next year you have Arod/Solarte/Refsnyder for 2 positions. Don’t get why you would cut arod. It’s been hard to find offense, and even though he is declining he still is better than many infielders out there. If he can be close to what he was last year his offense would be below Hanley, but right around Sandoval/Headley for free agent market, and he would require no new money.

    • vin says:

      I’d take Beltre, no questions asked. But, yeah, the ARod thing needs to get resolved first. He’s not just under contract for 2015, but also 2016 AND 2017 for a total of $63 million. He’s not going to walk away from that money (nor should he), and the Yankees aren’t going to eat that much money, IMO. Maybe MLB can buy him out.. that’d be something, huh?

      With Beltre, the IF defense would go from egregious to merely below average. Offensively, he would essentially replace Brian Roberts with Solarte moving to 2B and KJ and Ryan backing up the IF. That’s probably a 3 win upgrade.

  8. Mick taylor says:

    Idiot cashman, kendry morales went 3 for 5 and i s hitting462. I know it is a small sample but he is a 30hr 90 RBI guy. For yanks to get a guy that good in a trade will be near impossible. First most teams will bein the race come july31second, to get a hitter as good as morales means giving up top prospectslike Gary Sanchez. And most likely taking on a huge contract whereas morales would be only 1 year. .

  9. ropeadope says:

    Tonight’s lineups:

    New York Yankees Lineup

    1 LF Brett Gardner
    2 SS Derek Jeter
    3 CF Jacoby Ellsbury
    4 1B Mark Teixeira
    5 DH Carlos Beltran
    6 C+ Brian McCann
    7 3B Yangervis Solarte
    8 RF Ichiro Suzuki
    9 2B Brian Roberts

    SP Masahiro Tanaka

    Seattle Mariners Lineup

    1 RF Endy Chavez
    2 CF James Jones
    3 2B Robinson Cano
    4 3B Kyle Seager
    5 1B Logan Morrison
    6 LF Dustin Ackley
    7 C- Mike Zunino
    8 SS Brad Miller
    9 DH Cole Gillespie

    SP Chris Young

    Spoiler Alert


    A win this evening advances Yankees to 4 1/2 games behind Toronto, who were defeated by Twins earlier. Wins tonight and tomorrow leapfrog Yankees past Mariners for second wildcard (Orioles could have same record as Yankees if they win tonight and tomorrow).

    • ALZ says:

      IMO wildcard is a complete waste now. I would hate to have our season come down to that. Was good before allowing a team with 2 really strong teams to advance, but who wants a 1 game playoff?

      Really like our lineups now. It looks really nice when you got Ichiro/Solarte in the bottom third compared to having Soriano in the 4th or 5th slot.

      • ropeadope says:

        Agreed on both points. Strongly dislike the one game playoff, but I guess they can’t have the other teams waiting around to see who advances in a best of three.

  10. The Other Matt says:

    I know its sacrilegious to like a player on the Red Sox, but I have really come to like Brock Holt in a short amount of time, seeing him play a few times the past couple weeks.

  11. mustang says:

    Its one-day and a very small sample, but I’m jumping on the “I told you so” bandwagon because sure as shit if Stephen Drew would of come of the way Kendrys Morales has we would be hearing it.
    A bat like that on this Yankees team makes a difference and all it would of cost is money. I don’t care about fit you make it fit and if feelings get hurt so be it isn’t that what everyone saying about Jeter who has a legacy here. All the players who would of been inconvenience by the Morales move are new and failing parts of Yankees so if they didn’t like then they should of played better.

    • mustang says:

      And Yes hate him or like him George would of made the Morales move not only to make the team better, but send a message that you can and will be replace if you don’t do your job.

      Maybe lighting a little fire on these guys ass is actually what they need.

    • Michahiro Pinaka says:

      Maybe KM preferred guaranteed playing time? FAs get a say in whether they sign/don’t sign with a team.

  12. Daniel says:

    I was cleaning out my room and throwing away old school stuff last night. And in one of my notebooks from 2007 I had written this down:

    P- Andrew Brackman
    RF Jose Tabata
    3B-Eric Duncan
    P- Chase Wright
    P- Tyler Clippard
    P-Jeff Karstens
    P- T.J. Beam
    P- Dellin Bettances

    I don’t remember why I copied them down. I was probably just hopeful back then on the future output of those guys. Amazing only one really benefited them on the team and even that took 7 years.

    • ALZ says:

      Sure, but 4 of those guys have had some decent success in the majors. Prospects fail all the time.

      • Daniel says:

        No, I know. It’s just crazy to look at a top prospects list today with that in mind. That most of these guys won’t make it, and even the ones that do may be on another team. I’m just reminiscing on how I felt in 11th grade looking at that list thinking about the possibilities. I remember being especially excited about Bettances and Tabata.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner says:

      Did the cherry-popping hurt? ;)

  13. Wes says:

    In 2014 Boggs would’ve been 0-4 with the shift on.

  14. Ron says:

    And Babe Ruth would strike out 200 times and hit 10 home runs

  15. ALZ says:


    I’m ready for the game to star.

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