Jul
23

Carlos Beltran resumes throwing program

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Carlos Beltran started a new throwing program yesterday, Joe Girardi told Chad Jennings. Once he is able to throw without discomfort due to the bone spur in his elbow, the Yankees can resume playing him in right field rather than at DH everyday.

Beltran, 37, started a throwing program a few weeks ago but had to be shut down after a few days because of soreness. He admitted to still feeling some lingering discomfort three weeks ago. Beltran is not good defensively by any stretch of the imagination, but being relegated to DH really limits Girardi’s flexibility with the lineup. Being able to stick him out in right even two or three times a week opens up some more lineup possibilities.

Categories : Asides, Injuries
  • Dalek Jeter

    Even if he plays the field 2 or three times a week, without a trade for another bat we’re still running two of Suzuki, Johnson, Roberts, Wheeler, or Ryan out there every night.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

      Yeah, freeing up the DH spot only becomes valuable if they have someone else worth DH’ing.

      Other than maybe getting McCann in the lineup once more per week, they really don’t have that (and even McCann barely qualifies at this point.

      Better to just find an actual starting caliber RF who can hit.

  • TWTR

    If he had had the surgery when he was first injured, he might not be too far away from returning…healthy.

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

      So we should ignore the Yankees’ medical staff and trust you?

      • TWTR

        No, we should blithely follow whatever it is the Yankees do.

        • I’m One

          I’d prefer to follow them, since they actually had access to his medical records, did examinations and have a medical education. You? Not sure if you have any of those.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          You mispelled “we should respect the recommendations of highly-respected doctors such as Chris Ahmed and, often, James Andrew,s and not assume they are morons because they don’t run to amputate first and opt for the least-invasive approach first, which is considered best practice anywhere where there’s not a bigger risk involved in not having the most severe procedure.”

          • TWTR

            We’re not even privy to their consultations. So we don’t really know what their recommendations were. We only see the chosen course of action, and the result: a greatly diminished player.

            • I’m One

              So, with an investment of $45M over 3 years, you think they intentionally chose the wrong course of action???

              • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                cashman failed

                • TWTR

                  No, he never fails.

                  • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                    Yep, that’s my opinion. I wasn’t on the “Dont let Russell Martin go” train. I wasn’t all in on Cliff Lee back in the day. I was a huge fan of signing Ichiro’s extension. I especially loved ARod’s extension.

                    Seriously, it’s like you don’t read. Cashman is probably a slightly above average GM who fails occasionally. But anyone reading RAB comments would think that every fucking decision was made poorly and without thinking.

                    • TWTR

                      Cashman didn’t want to let Martin go.

                      I think he is average, but has been here way too long.

                    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

                      “I think he is average, but has been here way too long.”

                      Pretty much my thoughts, but with each passing year I find myself questioning more and more whether he’s even average.

              • TWTR

                Wrong is a relative term in this context. It’s very possible that they decided that they would rather have any contribution than no contribution.

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          lol ok, that’s what I said.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      And, if that’s how our medical system worked, we’d all be complainiing even more about how much we pay into it.

      • TWTR

        There’s an important difference between the medical system at large and how it interacts with professional athletes.

        The surgery has been widely reported to be unavoidable, right, unlike a weekend warrior? It was also widely reported that if he had the surgery almost immediately, he could possibly be back by mid-August to early-September at near-full strength.

        So it’s just a matter of timing.

        To this point, post-injury, we have seen a very diminished player. To complicate matters, we are essentially missing his age 37 season as a result of the injury at a point in his career at which natural declines are often the norm.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          I think it’s more a matter of how “risk” is defined.

          The “risk” may not be life-threatening, as it would in actual real life. It’s more related to, as you say, the likelihood that the player will recover fully under the less invasive procedure.

          However, if there’s a good chance that the player may recover under the less-invasive procedure and be healthy for an extensive period, I don’t see how we can fault them for choosing that first.

          Mark Teixeira stood a 70% chance of getting healthy through rehabbing his wrist. Everyone felt comfortable with those odds. It didn’t work out.

          We’ll see where this goes with the real guinea pig for all this, our #19.

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          And the plus side, which you’re just apparently going to ignore, was the potential for him to rehab and be back earlier, have the surgery in november, and be ready for spring training, missing no substantial time at all.

          It didn’t work out that way, which sucks, but you act as though the organization is made up purely of incompetent bozos.

  • Cheddard Headley

    Even if he can play RF occasionally who are they going to DH? They’d just rotate McCann, Jeter and Teixera which is fine but they need another guy who can play RF most days. Ichiro should only be a PR and a defensive replacement as was originally intended.

    • Scotty

      This just means more at bats for Brendan Ryan and Jeter at DH? Is this really something to be celebrating?

  • willie w

    still can’t figure out why they signed a 37 year old to a 3 year deal

    • willie w

      cespedes makes 10 mil a year
      beltran makes 15 mil a year

      how stupid is that
      yanks should have signed cespedes
      but cashman is inept

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

        How stupid is that
        yanks should have signed cespedes
        but cashman is bad hat
        or so willie w says

        • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

          It’s not even hard, man. You’re terrible at this game, willie.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          For some reason, I’m singing this to the tune of Weezer’s “El Scorcho.”

          “How stupid is it? I can’t talk about it
          I gotta sing about it and make a record of my heart
          How stupid is it? Won’t you gimme a minute
          Just come up to me
          And say hello to my heart”

          Willie’s getting to 1.5 out of ten on the WAYNE scale, much less the eddard scale.

    • BKamm

      They didn’t want to pay anyone until age 40. Oh wait! I guess it was 41.

      • Old Man Time

        Or they didn’t want to pay anyone 9 more years until age 41.

        • KeithK

          That’s the key. There’s a lot less risk paying for someone’s 37-39 seasons when he’s already 37 than doing it when he’s 31. You have more information about the player’s performance and aging curve. Doesn’t mean it will work out. Robbie could end up being a beast at 40 and Beltran could never be effective again. But as a risk proposition it makes sense.

          • Scott

            That is a great thought and reply. TY

    • LarryM Fl

      +100, I watch his performance daily and come to your conclusion after his at bats.

  • BKamm

    He’s throwing baseballs? Correct?

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    He stahted by throwing deh Yankees’ money away, Mike. I’ll hang up and hear what you have to say.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      He still exists?

  • Daniel

    Woohoo! Good news finally. So now in addition to being an auto out at bat, he can also be a liability defensively in the field. Multitasker.

  • CMed21

    I blame that stupid series at Tropicana back in April for all the Yankees misfortunes. Before that stupid series the Yanks were in first place with one of the best rotations in baseball and their lineup was average. Then Nova we got destroyed in the middle games of that series where Nova went down to TJ and Beltran crashed into the wall which proceeded to injure him and he hasn’t produced since then. More reasons to hate that stupid stadium…

    • Old Man Time

      I think it goes back even further to that 1st inning intentional walk to Sean Rodriguez in 2012.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

        Holy shit that was dumb.

    • Scott

      I can’t stand the Trop. Seriously is there any worse stadium in the league? All their stupid rules with the roof – “did it hit of catwalk a, b or c?, fair, foul, fair, out of play. WTF, build a BASEBALL stadium near St. Pete where old people can drive their golf carts to.

      • Mandy Stankiewicz

        What now feels like a million years ago, when you could still go to the LES on a Sunday and walk the flea markets/outdoor jacket sales, I use to see the occasional golf cart and wonder—could I drive one of those without fear of a DUI?

  • Farewell Mo

    Definitely not one of Cashman’s finer moments giving a broken down 37 year old 3/$45 million

    • TWTR

      Must have been Levine’s decision…

      • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead
        • TWTR

          You could have just linked to your own post.

          • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

            It’s not a cashman failed meme.

            • TWTR

              It’s a variant.

              Good decisions: Cashman
              Bad decisions: Levine

              • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                My link was not a cashman failed meme.

                • TWTR

                  OK, my bad. I can admit when I’m wrong, I shouldn’t have assumed it was the usual meme here.

                  There is kind of a coupling that goes on here on various sides of arguments.

    • Evan3457

      Except he wasn’t broken down when they signed him.
      He had just come off a year in which he hit .296/.339/.491/24/84 and a good post-season.

      Maybe they should have anticipated him breaking down, but he wasn’t broken down when they signed him.

  • fred robbins

    Sometimes the Yankees remind of me my little league days when we would get to the park and draw our position for the game out of a hat. That way no one had to feel like the fat kid stuck in right field or catcher:)

    Does the new Chase play RF? Maybe he can go out there and pull a groin or two. Just kidding guys- I’m feeling funny today just trying to beat the heat as we climb towards 100 by noon here in the good hot san Fernando valley of los angeles.
    But it does seem the Yankees might lead the league in putting players in a position they have either never player or maybe played once or twice- Nice to lead the league in something:)

    I thought that 1st inning intentional walk to Sean R was this year?

    Who do you think will be considered the best Yankee manager since say– 1976 —?

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      That IBB feels like yesterday. It was three seasons ago, I believe. Maybe two.

  • fred robbins

    P.S.

    I am curious about the comment about why did he get signed for 3 years/

    Did Beltran turn down a 2 year deal or was he just offered 3– just curious…if anyone knows

    • TWTR

      Any report can be wrong, but:

      The Yankees had sent out signals that they wouldn’t be willing to go to three years on a deal for Beltran, but they relented to get an agreement done in advance of the winter meetings, which begin Monday in Orlando, Fla.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      I think they were sticking to a 2 year offer, but once Cano bolted, they figured they had to replace the offense somewhere, and so decided to give the third year to ensure Beltran would sign. I didn’t have a problem with it at the time, but obviously now it’s looking like a bad decision. But who knows, maybe Beltran returns to the levels of his last two years for the next two years.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      It was believed that the extra year would separate an offer from others. However, I do think there was a tiny bit of bidding against themselves at the end there.

      I understood as the price of doing business at the time, even though I didn’t think it was a great signing. Felt more like a “look over here!” distraction right after losing Cano.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

      Allegedly, he had at least one other 3-year offer.
      Various reports indicated that a “mystery team” had a 3/$48M offer on the table, while others indicated the Diamondbacks and/or Royals offered 3 years.

  • fred robbins

    Thank you… All those replies make sense. It’s hard to figure, and I can agree about the distraction factor as well. Oh well.

    One can not expect Fans to be rational– by the very definition of Fan. We root for our team and I think that’s why some, more than others are ready to have someone go under the knife to get that player back sooner. But as a regular guy not in professional sports, most people would want to try anything before surgery. So it is hard to blame anyone for not having a procedure.
    I hope he comes back next year like the Playoff Beltran that looked like Superman. It would be great to have a really hard hitting DH.