Game 87: Win The Series

Yankees designate Soriano for assignment
Sunday Night Open Thread
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The Yankees took the first two games of this four-game weekend series in Target Field before dropping yesterday’s game on a walk-off error. I can’t even get mad about that game. You could see the loss coming a mile away. The Bombers have a chance to take three of four and win the series against the Twins this afternoon though, and that’s the most important thing. I’ll take three wins out of every four games from now until the end of time. Here is the Twins lineup and here is the Yankees lineup:

  1. LF Brett Gardner
  2. SS Derek Jeter
  3. CF Jacoby Ellsbury
  4. 1B Mark Teixeira
  5. C Brian McCannhis sore foot made it through batting practice fine
  6. DH Carlos Beltran
  7. 2B Brian Roberts
  8. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  9. 3B Kelly Johnson
    RHP Hiroki Kuroda

The weather report makes it sound like an uncomfortable day in Minneapolis — temperatures around 90 with a bunch of humidity. There is also some rain in the forecast later this afternoon. Scattered thunderstorms, hopefully nothing that delays the game. First pitch is scheduled for 2:10pm ET and you can watch on YES locally and TBS nationally. Enjoy the game.

Roster Moves: In case you missed it earlier, the Yankees designated Alfonso Soriano for assignment and called up Bruce Billings to help the overworked bullpen. They also traded Vidal Nuno to the Diamondbacks for Brandon McCarthy (and cash!).

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Yankees designate Soriano for assignment
Sunday Night Open Thread
  • forensic

    What a nice way to return from vacation (in New York, ironically enough). Soriano (finally) and Nuno gone. Now we hope that they make nice corresponding moves to fill out the roster after the next day or two.

    • JGYank

      It’s great until you realize they still need another SP, RF, infielder and could use another RP.

      • forensic

        IF and RP have nothing to do with those moves. This, at least, is a start and a chance to look at something that might be usable rather than sticking with crap that you know will suck.

        Almonte should handle the OF platoon with Ichiro for now and I’d bring up Greene to stay in the rotation, not just start tomorrow, in Whitley’s spot.

        • JGYank

          I like the moves, it’s just that they won’t help much. Maybe Almonte could platoon with Ichiro but we still need more offense than that.

          • forensic

            Of course, but trying something is better than sitting around and watching Soriano and Nuno stink up the joint. I’d rather see guys who have the potential to improve and might be part of something for more than just this year (Almonte more than McCarthy, in this case obviously) rather than just sticking with shit because they are older and more expensive.

  • tom
  • Mike HC

    Nice to see some moves being made today. Not sure how much they will actually help, but we had to do something.

  • Mikhel

    Goodbye Soriano & Nuño.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Tex ran through the stop sign.
    Dumbass.

    • forensic

      Thomson had the go sign going too long for Jeter and didn’t give Tex time to stop. I put that on him.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Slightly long, but Tex was pretty much still at third when he put on the stop sign.

        • forensic

          He had taken 3 steps past third and was almost through the cutout. I think that’s too late for Thomson to finally give him the signal, especially when there’s no need to Jeter the sign like that for so long on a play like that.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting

            He has to wait for Jeter to pass or Jeter may think the sign was for him. Seemed like Tex had over 80 feet to stop.

            • forensic

              And then get thrown out back at 3rd. Both are Thomson’s fault, IMO. And he can just move a touch back up the line and/or point to Tex to indicate the sign is for him and not for Jeter. Either way, by that point, Jeter is past him and not watching his sign anyway.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting

                I agree it was a bit late. But I also think Tex had enough time to stop and get back.

                I’d say they share responsibility for the screw up.

  • http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/ ALZ

    Look at that.

    You get rid of Soriano and instantly the offense can do things.

    • vicki

      facing nolasco don’t hurt.

  • forensic

    Screw you, Fuld.

  • TheRealGreg

    Now people know that this offense might not do anything else so Kuroda needs to be on point.

  • forensic

    I don’t understand why guys like Kay and Singleton try to say that Soriano just lost it overnight. Other that that fluky historical run last season, he’s been showing big signs of falling off the table like this for years. Several of us figured he’d be pretty damn terrible this year (maybe not quite to this level, but somewhat close for sure).

    • RetroRob

      Career 112 OPS+. Last four seasons: 114, 118, 104 and 114. I didn’t see a 61 OPS+ coming, beyond the natural fear of age. Four year average of 113. wRC+ tells a similar story. He actually has been a very consistent player throughout his career, and that consistency includes a low walk rate and fits of hot and cold streaks, spectacular on the high and low ends.

      • forensic

        Those are up there because he had a little uptick in power (homers one year and doubles another year) for a year or so. 4 of the last 6 years he’s been .303 OBP or lower. And we know about his plate discipline. The power isn’t worth anything if you can’t make contact. And in general, the hot streaks have been much shorter than the cold streaks.

        I didn’t quite see the sub-.250 OBP, sub-.370 SLG coming, but a horrible year was certainly expected.

  • forensic

    Nice McCann! But, geez, Thomson loves getting guys thrown out at home with less than 2 outs.

    • TheRealGreg

      That was on Tex. He ran through a stop sign

      • forensic

        Thomson had the go sign going too long for Jeter when it wasn’t necessary. I put that on him not giving Tex time to stop.

        • TheRealGreg

          No.

          • forensic

            Oh, ok, you convinced me…

            • TheRealGreg

              He had time to stop. Now as Kay said, he might have thought that he would have hurt his legs if he stopped

    • Deep Thoughts

      I don’t understand why, when you’re talking out of your ass and subsequently proven wrong, you continue to argue and confront and make a further ass of yourself. This is why your handle should be “polemic” rather than “forensic” because you never use evidence to prove anything–you just argue for the sake of argument and confrontation.

  • MP

    Ugh, Teix really? We’re freakin mashing against Nolasco.

  • Hiroki Kureddarda

    Now why the hell would Rob Thomson send Teixera there. They are crushing Nolasco. There was only 1 out. Keep crushing him and get another run. Jesus Christ.

    • TheRealGreg

      He didn’t.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      He didn’t send Tex.

  • Chris

    Good inning, but it could have been a monster without that catch and relay. I still don’t understand the “Posey” rule. I thought the catcher couldn’t block the plate without the ball? Seems like he was in the line.

  • MP

    Feels like it could’ve been a 6-run inning there. I’ll take the early lead though.

  • TheRealGreg

    By the way, yesterday had the worst Eddardism ever.

    “Plouffe slowly ran to first to induce a wild throw from Cervelli”

    • WhittakerWalt

      In its own way that’s the most genius thing Eddard’s ever said.

  • Hiroki Kureddarda

    Should have had at least 3 runs there with how they crushed Nolasco. Thomson cost them another run sending his slowest runner to home with only 1 out.

    • TheRealGreg

      He didn’t do that.

  • TheRealGreg

    Playing fallacy a bit but I don’t know if Tex scores from third on a sac fly anyway unless it’s real deep. Certanly not on a ground ball out.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Yankees are leading the AL in outs at home.

    Good to see the Yankees leading the league in at least one offensive category.

    • forensic

      heh, ouch.

    • Stratocaster

      Good thing this game is on the road! ;)

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Well played, Mauer.

      • TheRealGreg

        You win, sir.

  • forensic

    “He’s changed baseball immensely”

    Huh???

  • MP

    Holy cow is Nolasco terrible.

  • forensic

    Finish Him!

    • forensic

      Thank you Ellsbury!

  • TheRealGreg

    That was ball 4.

  • Hiroki Kureddarda

    They’re all crushing that 1st pitch. Good scouting for once. Keep swinging.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Please get more than 1 run out of this.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Thanks, Ells.

      • Daniel

        After a lame week this is what I need to sit through. Man it feels good seeing your team click offensively like this.

        • forensic

          It’s too bad they don’t play the Twins anymore this season.

          • TheRealGreg

            Get the Indians next. Almost in the same area.

  • Hiroki Kureddarda

    ELLSBURY! THAT’S THE FATAL BLOW FINALLY. Hiroki will do the rest from here.

    • Daniel

      Ok. I have to admit I didn’t see that name change coming. Pretty good.

  • forensic

    Yeah Ellsbury!

  • TheRealGreg

    Dammit Brett and Ump

  • forensic

    I have this irrational fear that Nolasco, and his contract, will inevitably be a Yankee because Girardi liked what he saw from him and ‘how he competes’ from his time with the Marlins.

    • TheRealGreg

      Not any more. You must have that rare form of disease. Mitre-itis

    • RetroRob

      Then it’s good that Nolasco picked today to have one of his worst games on the season.

  • Stratocaster

    Wow. Six runs gets everybody 50% off on bad pizza tomorrow! Enjoy everyone.

  • MP

    Ells!! It’s unbelievable how awful Nolasco is.

  • Mikhel

    Jaaaa! the guy with the “yankees suck” shirt seemed pretty happy to have caught that bomb by Ellsbury

  • RetroRob

    So who do you think Soriano signs with? He’ll be picked up by some team. Ibanez was worse, and the Royals picked him up.

    I say the Red Sox, and he hit 17 HRs, carrying the Red Sox to the Wile Card.

    Just kidding. I don’t think they have room for him.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Yeah, he seems kind of redundant with Gomes.
      Can’t imagine they’d want him playing RF in that park.

      • RetroRob

        No. Ortiz is DH, and with Betts up and Holt playing well, and Gomes on the roster, he won’t fit.

        The Yankees could also try trading him out of the league, which I think is allowed with a DFA.

    • TheRealGreg

      The “Wile” Card?

      • RetroRob

        The “Willie” Card? : -)

    • forensic

      Some horrible offense will probably pick him up, just because that’s what so many MLB teams do, but really nobody should bother.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Now let’s see if Kuroda can figure out how to pitch with good run support.

    Not sure he’s had to do that before.

  • forensic

    Ok, the Yanks jumped out to a big lead. Now, hopefully they slowly pull away and Kuroda just rolls on through the rest of the game.

  • vicki

    big wheel woulda had it.

    • forensic

      I haven’t been here much since they made that move. Has Rollin’ Wheels surpassed Solar Power already?

      I’m actually a little surprised they didn’t just go to Sizemore instead of him, but it’s probably not that big a deal overall.

      • vicki

        his happiness is infectious. we love Hell On Wheels.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    TBS continues it’s coverage of calling games from the perspective of Yankees opponents.

    It’s not about the Yankees scoring runs, it’s about how terrible Nolasco is pitching.

    Darling’s depression at today’s events are palpable.

    No excitement from the booth on the scoring of runs, it’s a downcast demeanor with each run.

    Status quo. I’m not saying they’re as terrible as Fox or ESPN, but the commentary is always from the perspective of the Yankee opponents, never vice versa.

    • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

      “Is” palpable

    • RetroRob

      I never listen to them when the Yankees are playing since I’m in market.

      Is it possible they just sound depressed because the game right now is a blowout?

      • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

        Meh. Not really. This is an ongoing thing. It’s still a blowout but the Twins have pulled within 9-4 and there’s excitement in the booth.

        It first came to my attention in the 2012 ALCS. It’s not a pitcher-hitter thing, either. The commentary is about what the Twins batters need to do to work the count and when the Yankees are hitting, where to pitch the Yankee batters to get them out. It’s always the opponent’s perspective is my point. It was awful with the Tigers in 2012. And I’ve noticed on the rare Sundays that TBS carries the Yankees.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Getting close to time to pull the plug on KJ, too.

    • Kosmo

      I agree. Wheeler should be getting ABs at least for the time being.

  • yankeepankee

    Folks,
    Be well.
    Okay, now the internet (Heyman, etc.) says Yanks are heavily scouting Headley.
    If he’s healthy, get the Padres to add Ian Kennedy (still young enough to be in the rotation for a few years) to the package.
    Then try and pick up a righty bat (Winningham? etc.) and roll the dice for a payoff spot.

    • Kosmo

      Headley, Quinten and T Ross.

  • TheRealGreg

    By the way, I was looking at Roberts’ stats and he is doing almost exactly what he did in Baltimore last year. Coming into today

    2013 Baltimore: 77 games, .249/.312/.392
    2014 Yankees : 75 games, .247/.316/.380

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      So wysiwyg.

      • TheRealGreg

        Indeed

    • Kosmo

      I noticed that too except his RBI per AB is less than half.

      • TheRealGreg

        And he has 4 less homers.

    • vicki

      walk and k rates too.

      it looks like all the projection systems nailed him.

  • TheRealGreg

    Doesn’t it seem that Kuroda doesn’t pitch as well when he gets run support as opposed to when he doesn’t? It seems that way to me.

    • Kosmo

      he´s fighting thru the initial shock

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      This season
      0-2 runs: 7 games, 1.163 WHIP, 4.19 ERA
      3-5 runs: 7 games, 1.266 WHIP, 3.38 ERA
      6+ runs: 3 games, 1.389 WHIP. 5.50 ERA

      • TheRealGreg

        I thought so.

        • RetroRob

          It’s only three games. Four now, and he’s surrendered zero so far.

          Mostly noise in the machine.

          Or he’s just stunned when he gets runs support!

          • TheRealGreg

            No I know. Great chance to stem into that stat today

    • forensic

      He’s just pitching to the score. Just ask Jack Morris.

      • TheRealGreg

        Treu but you want to spare the key bullpen men today.

        • TheRealGreg

          True

        • forensic

          I was being sarcastic. He’s allowed one double all game and is at 15 pitches per inning. He’s fine right now.

      • nsalem

        and Catfish Hunter and Robin Roberts and El Duque.

    • Preston

      You just hate being happy. He’s through 3 scoreless. He’s allowed one hit.

      • TheRealGreg

        No it’s not that. It’s a queer thing that I’ve noticed. That’s all.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Nobody who has David Ortiz as a teammate can accuse people of brushing aside PED involvements.

    • vicki

      buck, regulatin’.

    • RetroRob

      Does it surprise anyone that Lackey is just whiney little kid? (Apologies to little kids everywhere comparing them to Lackey).

      • Preston

        I just don’t understand why the reaction to steroids is still like this. A dozen NFL players get suspended every year. They serve their four games and nobody says anything about it. Baseball has as good of a testing system and tougher penalties than anybody. The guy used, he got caught, move on.

    • forensic

      That’s not true, he’s still looking for the real juicers.

  • Deep Thoughts

    ESPN “Analytics Edition” article on McCarthy from 2012:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_.....n-magazine

    “On paper, he has no business understanding sabermetrics, much less using them to resurrect his career. As we all know, though, the game is not played on paper.”

    • vicki

      he’s pretty fucking cool. and with mcNasty, he brings his 80 nickname tool.

      • RetroRob

        He’s definitely one of the smarter players in the game. I suspect he’ll have a post career in the front office if that’s what he wants. Hopefully he still has enough, though, on the field.

  • Preston

    Derek Jeter and Jacoby Ellsbury are just your typical middle of the order run producers. Racking up the RBIs.

  • forensic

    We know Jeter’s playing around out there, but I think he’s gotta be more careful than doing something like that slide. You get some dumbass ump who wants to make the game about him and he suddenly calls that interference and gives the out at 1st too.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Why oh why can’t they play the Twins more often?

    I blame Cashman.

  • Tony Lazzeri’s Plaque

    Apparently Jeter’s not quite dead yet. Who knew?

    • TheRealGreg

      He’s been around the .260s and the .270s the whole season.

      • Rolling Doughnut

        Right. His away slash is even better: .281/.355/.359/.714

        • TheRealGreg

          Ozzie Smith hit .199 at the age of 40. So while Jeter isn’t close to what he was, he is definitely not the offensive detriment that he has been made out to be this year

          • forensic

            Smith only played 44 games that year and that helped his team finish with just 62 wins (shortened season) that year. That’s not exactly what you should be looking for from Jeter.

            Also, not that it affects the offensive outlook/contributions, Smith still graded out as a positive defender at that point, as far as I can tell.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting

            He’s been around an 80 wRC+ and .650 OPS all year. That’s quite unproductive.

            • Preston

              He’s a slightly below average offensive SS, and he’s been slightly below average on defense as well. But he’s still a solid starter. He’s not Pete Kozma.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting

                I’d use average as the benchmark for a solid starter, but no, he’s not Pete Kozma.
                It could certainly be worse.

                • Preston

                  It’s best to have a team of all above average players. But as a rule around 15 starters at every position have to be below average. The problem is we’re below average at SS, 2b, 3b, DH and RF. But I’ll give Jeter a pass because I still enjoy watching him and of those positions SS is generally the hardest position to find an available upgrade.

            • vicki

              do yourself a favor; don’t look at his leverage splits, though they’ve gotten better over the last month.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting

                Couldn’t resist.

                Just brutal.

              • RetroRob

                Jeter is not his former peak self, but in a year when the league BA is it’s lowest since the early 70s, and he’s a SS, I haven’t been overly concerned with him.

                I’m enjoying his last go-around, even in his reduced state. Players like Beltran, McCann, and the overall rotation cause me greater concern.

  • nsalem

    Kenny knows very well why the National League won most of the AS games in that era but is not saying directly why.

    • RetroRob

      Because they had better players? : -)

      The overall record against the AL during the period was also a bit lucky. The best team in MLB could play the worst team in MLB, and they wouldn’t have that record over that many games, but the NL was definitely the stronger league then.

  • forensic

    Well, this is less than ideal.

  • TheRealGreg

    Kuroda very lucky that Arcia got thrown out at second.

  • Preston

    You know who makes a lot of fricking sense as a trade target. Josh Willingham. We could hide his defense fairly well in RF in YS (certainly better than they can at Target Field). Pairing him with Tex in the middle would give us a legimate 3-4 combo. Probably wouldn’t cost that much either.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Dammit Hirok.

    Never easy with this team.

  • TheRealGreg

    See what I meant before?

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Notice the difference with the TBS crew in terms of enthusiasm?

    Evidence for the naysayers from my earlier point…

  • Hiroki Kureddarda

    What the hell is Hiroki doing? I guarantee you Girardi will use up all 3 of Betances, Warren and Robertson now. He’s going to run them into the ground.

    • TheRealGreg

      And you’re blaming Girardi for that? Blame the pitcher.

  • TheRealGreg

    If Betances, Warren, or Robertson have to be used today, it it an absolute failure for Kuroda and company

    • RetroRob

      He’ll right his ship. The tighter the score, the more comfortable he’ll be. : -)

      • TheRealGreg

        Good point. LOL

  • WhittakerWalt

    George King thinks the Soriano DFA is going to come back to bite the Yankees. Man, he’s a moron.

    • vicki

      i spat out my beer. he also said mccarthy is the sum of his W-L record and era.

      • RetroRob

        Tabloid sports reporters. The original trolls.

        • WhittakerWalt

          Yep, he thinks the Yankees should have given Sori the chance to work out his issues. Not sure what he thinks was happening the first three months of the season.

  • RetroRob

    Nunie loses his helmet running! Has that ever happened?

  • RetroRob

    Romeo Santos????

  • http://rab.com Michael Cutler

    Brandon McCarthy is an upgrade to Vidal Nuno like shitting yourself is better then lighting your hair on fire

    • TheRealGreg

      Not really a good metaphor because crapping yourself doesn’t lead to bodily harm.

    • roberto kelly johnson

      well that would be a huge upgrade

  • WhittakerWalt

    I’m never not going to be annoyed when Jeter GIDP. I don’t care the score, Gardner can’t be sticking around at first.

    • forensic

      I still think it’s pretty unrealistic to think Gardner needs to be trying to steal on just about the first pitch and/or every single time he reaches base. Nobody does or can do that.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Maybe not straight stealing, but something. Hit and run, some kind of play. We know what Jeter does.

        • forensic

          You can’t hit and run every play though and run Gardner into the ground. You have to let Jeter attempt to have real AB’s and not have to swing at everything (though he always swings a lot anyway). Sometimes, less then optimal things are going to happen due to employing less than optimal lineups (IMO).

          We know the real way to fix it, but we also know that’s just not going to happen.

  • Deep Thoughts

    With that, his 280th career GIDP, Jeter pulls out of a tie with Paul Konerko for 15th all-time. Of course Jete’s in his 20th season and Konerko his 18th.

    Up next Albert Pujols (283 GIDPs in 14 seasons) and Joe Torre (284 in 18 seasons).

    • WhittakerWalt

      One thing common to just about everyone on that list is that they’re good hitters.

      • Deep Thoughts

        Absolutely. They got the chance because they were contact hitters who got it done for amazingly long periods of time.

        I’m just teasing the Captain. Nothing but love.

        Rank / Player (yrs, age) / GIDPs / Bats

        + = Hall of Famer

        1. Cal Ripken+ (21) 350 R
        2. Ivan Rodriguez (21) 337 R
        3. Hank Aaron+ (23) 328 R
        4. Carl Yastrzemski+ (23) 323 L
        5. Dave Winfield+ (22) 319 R
        6. Eddie Murray+ (21) 315 B
        Jim Rice+ (16) 315 R
        8. Julio Franco (23) 312 R
        9. Harold Baines (22) 298 L
        10. Brooks Robinson+ (23) 297 R
        Rusty Staub (23) 297 L
        12. Ted Simmons (21) 287 B
        13. Joe Torre+ (18) 284 R
        14. Albert Pujols (14, 34) 283 R
        15. Derek Jeter (20, 40) 281 R

    • forensic

      Guess he’ll probably finish the season in about 13th (if Pujols stays ahead of him and if he passes both Torre and Simmons). It’ll be a little while until someone else catches him though. Maybe A-Rod, depending on how much or if he plays out his contract. Then, Beltre and Miggy would likely be next.

      If nothing else, you have to be pretty damn good and play a pretty long time to be among those names.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Pretty much it means you hit the ball hard and there’s a lot of men on base for you. Ripken and Henry Aaron were two of the all-time greats, and they GIDP like it was going out of style.

    • vicki

      i assume you mean to illustrate that a lot of great players appear on that leaderboard.

  • TheRealGreg

    Thanks a lot Kuroda.

  • TheRealGreg

    Boy that was huge

  • forensic

    Not horrible, but still a pretty disappointing performance, especially the last half of it, by Kuroda considering the circumstances.

    • TheRealGreg

      But with those stats we brought up above, not surprising.

    • RetroRob

      When he tossed that DP ball at around 100 pitches, I thought there was hope he might get them through seven innings. A nine run lead at one point with a weakened bullpen, I think seven innings would have been good.

      • forensic

        Seven innings would’ve been great in his diminished state. But, he didn’t even finish six innings.

  • Deep Thoughts

    Come on, producers. After Kenny makes the “Why the long face?” joke, the next shot is on Teixeira. Obviously.

    • vicki

      applause.

  • TheRealGreg

    But still FAILURE for Kuroda

    • WhittakerWalt

      He didn’t surrender the lead = success in your book.

      • TheRealGreg

        A 9 run lead against the Twins should be an easy victory without using your main bullpen men.

        • WhittakerWalt

          There are NO easy wins for this crew. Not even a 9-0. No laughers, ever.

  • http://rab.com Michael Cutler

    You guys are ready to give Cashman an award for getting Brandon Mccarthy while the Yanks just carry on in mediocracy . . just cuz hes an upgrade over a guy who was pitching in Independent ball 2 years ago is nothing to celebrate. . I’m embarrassed a team that brings in so much money has the balls to even make that deal considering how much help they need . . Cashman has brought all your expectations down to the point where you get excited about Brandon McCarthy . . Cashman doesn’t have the balls to make a big deal

    • roberto kelly johnson

      ok we now know what not to do, who do you want and what do you want to give up?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Cashman doesn’t have the balls to make a big deal

      Or hopefully realizes this roster has too many holes to fill, and isn’t worth gutting the farm to try to salvage.

      • http://rab.com Michael Cutler

        you might be right

    • TheRealGreg

      Didn’t give up any prospects = WIN

    • WhittakerWalt

      And you would do…? The trades you would make are…?

  • steved fl

    cant even get trough 5 inn. with a 9 run lead against the Twins

    • TheRealGreg

      6 innings

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      *6

    • WhittakerWalt

      5.2 innings

    • roberto kelly johnson

      its the 6th inn

  • steved fl

    through

  • steved fl

    oops

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    This really just shows they need another solid, reliable reliever.
    They really shouldn’t need to use Warren in a 5-run lead, 2outs, 1 on situation.

    If you can’t use the 5th/6th reliever in a situation like this, you need better 5th/6th relievers.

    • roberto kelly johnson

      +! hopefully kelley can get it back

    • TheRealGreg

      It didn’t help that they used all of those guys yesterday.

      But your point is very valid.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        That hurt too. Maybe Kelley would have been used here if he wasn’t used for 2 innings yesterday.

        But Miller/Billings are pretty much an empty roster spot.

    • forensic

      Girardi loves doing stuff like that. Hopefully, though Warren will likely also pitch the 7th, they’ll still have the lead in the 8th and 9th and he’ll use at least one of them to eat up those innings. It’s pointless to go through this game, assuming the lead isn’t disappearing, without using at least one of them since one will likely be gone tomorrow for Greene.

  • TheRealGreg

    I thought Ellsbury should have tried that. That ball was hit slowly to first.

  • Hiroki Kureddarda

    I knew we shoulda kept that Nuney kid. Great little ballplayer. Cautionary Joe has no choice but to burn through Warren, Betances and Robertson now.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Strikes please

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    What a dumb throw by Ichiro

  • TheRealGreg

    All of this goes back to the failure of Hiroki Kuroda

  • Tom

    Why the hell is Ichiro throwing to 3rd?

    Too many damn hero plays on this team – you keep the double play in order with a 5 run lead.

    • Alkaline

      Not the worse “hero throw” I’ve seen, though, but agreed.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    The throw is to second, duh. WTF.

  • forensic

    Well, I think that puts the kibosh on the idea of seeing Miller/Billings today.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      What? No confidence that they’re gonna tack on a few runs now?

      • TheRealGreg

        But that’s just it. You shouldn’t need to have tack on runs when you’re up 9-0

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          Also should’t need your best relievers to protect a 4 or 5 run lead.

          • TheRealGreg

            Exactly. Shows you some of the cracks on this team

        • roberto kelly johnson

          i get what your saying buts it still a 4 run game going into the 8th

  • No 2013 again

    What am I missing about this trade? Did we really get a useful pitcher and cash for Nuno? That’s like, really good job by Cashman!

    • roberto kelly johnson

      not enough balls coming back!

  • vicki

    i got greedy. really wanted that nine run margin, to cut into the shameful run differential.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    It’s Miller Time.

    • Tom

      Hopefully this doesn’t lead to eventually throwing up, lots of regrets and eventually passing out like Miller time often does.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        It’s getting close to that.

        • forensic

          At least it wasn’t a full walk of shame there.

  • forensic

    Hey, it’s Miller. I’m pleasantly surprised. Hopefully he can take these two innings and then he’s the one sent down for Greene.

    • forensic

      Well, that didn’t take long.

  • Hiroki Kureddarda

    Get Delin and Robertson up, Cautionary Joe. Gotta burn through all of them before this one is out.

  • TheRealGreg

    Well Jim Miller is going to pitch

  • Alkaline

    Oh Jesus christ. Here we go.

  • TheRealGreg

    We now Robertson is in play

    • roberto kelly johnson

      robertson pitching wouldnt be the worst thing in the world since he hasnt pitched that much…just no betances

      • TheRealGreg

        No it wouldn’t but you had a 9-0 lead and you have to use your closer? Not good.

  • TheRealGreg

    The good news is that Betances will be avoided and he didn’t seem to warming with earnest.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Hope Joe doesn’t wait till they tie it.

  • forensic

    Breaking News: Tim Lincecum has 2 no-hit innings against the Padres!!!

  • roberto kelly johnson

    huge

  • forensic

    Solid play, Wheeler.

  • Deep Thoughts

    Only fair: All-time Hits Leaders:

    1. Pete Rose (24) 4256 B
    2. Ty Cobb+ (24) 4189 L
    3. Hank Aaron+ (23) 3771 R
    4. Stan Musial+ (22) 3630 L
    5. Tris Speaker+ (22) 3514 L
    6. Cap Anson+ (27) 3435 R
    7. Honus Wagner+ (21) 3420 R
    8. Carl Yastrzemski+ (23) 3419 L
    9. Derek Jeter (20, 40) 3400 R

    • forensic

      Personally, I like the MLB.com lists better for most of these since BR.com gives credit for other leagues, meaning Cap Anson’s time in the National Association (there are also the rare stat differences by 1 or 2 and the MLB list would theoretically be the official one).

      Over 100 years of difference makes a comparison tough, but it seems like if he’s getting credit for that then someone like Ichiro should get credit for his years in Japan and be on their list too.

      • WhittakerWalt

        I think Ichiro sort of does get credit for his years in Japan, just not in a technical counting stats kind of way. I believe a lot of people subliminally add the other career to his MLB one, to add to his reputation. I don’t think Ichiro would be getting quite so much “he’s a first ballot Hall of Famer” talk if it wasn’t for his preexisting Japanese ball career. I do think he is a Hall of Famer, but his MLB stats aren’t THAT mindblowing (other than getting 200 hits every year). 55 lifetime WAR for a rightfielder is not that impressive.

  • TheRealGreg

    That is a good piece of info about Robertson. Has only appeared in 29 games and has thrown 29.2 innings this year. So he is not overworked like the other 2.

    • Alkaline

      Got Kuroda and Robertson on fantasy. Would enjoy a W and S here.

    • forensic

      Well, he also had the DL stint, so that skews the numbers a little bit. His GP number would be closer to Warren/Betances without that (though his innings would still be lower since he’s basically married to the closer inning).

  • Alkaline

    Shit.

  • forensic

    Dominated Willingham that time.

  • Alkaline

    Ugh. Come on high socks.

  • TheRealGreg

    Oh shit I forgot about that

  • forensic

    Whew…

  • TheRealGreg

    Almost a carbon copy of Friday’s game

  • roberto kelly johnson

    robertsons strikeout rate is unbelievable

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Never easy.

  • Hiroki Kureddarda

    The Curse of the Great Eduardo could strike again here. Twins are one swing of the bat away from a walk off 3 run HR.

  • forensic

    Wow, Suzuki was trying to hit that 500 feet. Good thing that takes him totally out of his normal swing and he wasn’t even close to it.

  • Hiroki Kureddarda

    They hung on for a series W. That was nearly the biggest choke job in the history of baseball. I thought they’d take 3/4 since they play better on the road and always beat up on the Twins. They need to do the same in Cleveland. Could pick up a game on the Os and Jays.

  • Mandy Stankiewicz

    “Start spreading the news…”

  • No 2013 again

    Not easy, but a win is a win. Great sunday!