Aug
18

DotF: Banuelos struggles to throw strikes in Scranton’s win

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Some notes:

  • LHP Jeremy Bleich has been sent from Triple-A Scranton down to Double-A Trenton, according to Donnie Collins. The move clears a roster spot for RHP Chris Leroux, who rejoined the team after being designated for assignment and accepting his outright.
  • If you’re interested, Matt Eddy listed the signing scout for every player who has made his MLB debut this year. That includes RHP Bryan Mitchell, RHP Chase Whitley, and RHP Jose Ramirez for the Yankees, among others.

Triple-A Scranton (2-0 win over Pawtucket)

  • CF Jose Pirela: 1-3, 2 BB — eight walks and six strikeouts in his last nine games
  • 2B Rob Refsnyder: 2-3, 1 RBI, 1 BB
  • 1B Kyle Roller: 2-5, 1 2B, 1 K — 12-for-36 (.333) in his last nine games
  • RF Zelous Wheeler: 1-2, 2 BB
  • DH Scott Sizemore: 0-4, 1 K — first game since early-July due to an unknown injury … he was released and re-signing during that time as well
  • LHP Manny Banuelos: 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 6 BB, 3 K, 4/2 GB/FB — only 30 of 68 pitches were strikes (44%) … had only five walks in his previous 22.2 innings
  • RHP Chris Leroux: 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 5 K, 2/5 GB — 46 of 78 pitches were strikes (59%)
  • RHP Nick Rumbelow: 1 IP, zeroes, 1 K, 1/1 GB/FB — 11 of 17 pitches were strikes (65%)

Double-A Trenton had a scheduled off-day.

High-A Tampa (8-1 loss to Brevard County)

  • CF Mark Payton & SS Cito Culver: both 1-3, 1 BB, 1 K – Payton committed a fielding error
  • 3B Eric Jagielo: 1-4, 1 K, 1 E (fielding) — 16th error in only 59 games in the field
  • DH-RF Aaron Judge: 2-4, 1 K — had been in a 2-for-22 (.091) slump
  • 2B Angelo Gumbs: 0-3, 1 K
  • LHP Miguel Sulbaran: 3 IP, 6 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 1 HB, 4/2 GB/FB — fourth time in his last five starts that he allowed six runs
  • RHP Jose Pena: 3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 2/2 GB/FB – just up from the GCL to give the team a fresh arm
  • LHP Danny Oh: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 1/2 GB/FB — ran out of pitching and had to pull him out of right field

Low-A Charleston had a scheduled off-day.

Short Season Staten Island is off until Wednesday for the All-Star break. The actual All-Star Game is tomorrow night in Brooklyn. C Luis Torrens, 1B Connor Spencer, IF Ty McFarland, and DH Isaias Tejeda were all elected to the game. Here are the full rosters.

Rookie GCL Yanks1 (12-0 loss to GCL Braves)

  • RF Ramon Flores: 1-4, 1 2B, 1 K — played seven innings as he continues to work his way back from an ankle injury
  • LF-RF Alex Palma: 1-4, 1 2B, 1 K
  • 3B Drew Bridges: 0-3, 1 BB, 1 K
  • CF Leonardo Molina: 0-2 — left the game after five innings for an unknown reason
  • RHP Preston Claiborne: 2 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 1 HB, 4/0 GB/FB — rough outing, but as long as his shoulder is healthy, results down here don’t matter
  • RHP Caleb Cotham: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 1 HB,4/0 GB/FB
  • RHP Austin DeCarr: 1.1 IP, 3 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 1 WP, 1 Balk, 2 HB, 1/2 GB/FB — this year’s third rounder had been pitching very well up until this game

Rookie GCL Yanks2 (4-3 win over GCL Pirates in ten innings)

  • SS Yancarlos Baez: 0-3, 1 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 SB, 1 E (fielding)
  • DH Jake Hernandez: 1-5, 1 RBI, 2 K – singled in the go-ahead run in the top of the tenth
  • 1B Chris Gittens: 1-3, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K
  • LHP Nestor Cortes: 5 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 K, 1 Balk, 1/2 GB/FB — 33/4 K/BB in 27.2 innings for the 19-year-old, who the Yankees grabbed in the 36th round last summer
Categories : Down on the Farm
  • Douglas Rau

    As soon as Mike wrote about how he was a possible September call-up, ManBam struggles. Way to go, Mike! (just teasing) Maybe he read the column and got ahead of himself.

    • JimmyToucan

      better than making him the prospect watch candidate!

      • Septhinox

        In fairness, we picked Jagielo.

        • Jason

          [QUOTE]Pass on Castillo

          The Yankees have ended any pursuit of Cuban outfielder/second baseman Rusney Castillo, according to an industry source. Castillo’s power-and-speed element has him linked to interest by several other clubs, including Boston and Detroit, though he remains a long shot to join a contending team before the Aug. 31 playoff roster freeze due to visa issues. For the Yanks, Castillo’s potential salary — possibly in the $10 million-per-year-or-greater range — would have come with a hefty luxury-tax hit.

          – See more at: http://www.northjersey.com/spo.....dpuf/QUOTE

  • Yanks

    Nestor Cortes is another small lefty, but I’d like to know what kind of stuff he throws. He tries to model himself after Gio Gonzalez it seems (from the same place in Florida), but I don’t know if his repertoire is similar or not.

    https://twitter.com/Cortes_1210/status/431788713111478274/photo/1

    You can see he has a similarly high leg kick.

    • Go Win

      His FB sits in the upper 80s to low 90s but it sinks, so I would not say that Gio is the best comp. Also he has a very good change-up and a curve ball. In my opinion a reference who currently is in the yankees system would be Dan Camarena.

    • Angelo

      If they had similar repertoires, Cortes would be one of the top 4 pitching prospects in the system, even when considering how faraway he is.

      But I’m guessing you’re talking about his arsenal and not actual capability/potential.

      • Yanks

        I was talking much more about the leg kick and Cortes posting about it. They’re similarly sized lefties, but I don’t really know how his stuff is compared to Gio. Obviously I wouldn’t say he is Gio, but it seems like he tries to follow some of the same things Gio does.

  • Yanks

    Tucker Blair @TuckerBlairON · 46m
    #Yankees Jake Cave does not have impact tools, but he could be a solid second division type with avg tools across the board minus power

    From the BP scout who watched the Thunder at Bowie. I know his speed is probably a 55, but I don’t get how Cave’s arm doesn’t rate as tremendous considering he threw 94 as a pitcher… in high school…

    Also, Jagielo’s errors are very troubling. I’m not a big believer in errors as defensive indicators, but still….

    • Maas Knuckle

      He has above average speed and an above average hit tool, so he’s not tool-light. All he is really lacking is power, and that should improve. He has a knack for contributing in just about every game he plays. I think I counted that he had gotten on base in 81 or 82 of the 90 High A games he played this year.

      • Chip

        He has probably slightly above average speed and slightly above average hit tool but doesn’t have anything that’s considered plus. You typically want 2 plus tools or at least plus hitting or power to be a first division starter in the majors

        • YakaTanaka

          Meh… Without weights on the tools the framework isn’t that informative in my opinion. I don’t think Cave is all that likely to be a first division starter (depending how you define first division and likely)… but solid CF defense and speed is not the same as solid RF defense and speed, say, and it lowers the offensive bar.

          Not a perfect comparison by any means… but I could see Austin Jackson level overall production: .277 BA, .134 ISO, 105 wRC+ overall, maybe not as much defensive value… but AJax has been worth 3 fWAR per in a 5 year career to date with probably defense as his only arguably plus tool. Might not be first division… but if Cave could be a 2.5 fWAR CF in the long-run he’d probably be a top 10 CF in MLB.

      • Farewell Mo

        Someone asked Keith Law about him the other day and I believe he said he was a 4th outfielder type.

        • YakaTanaka

          It seems pretty reasonable as a likely good case… Most prospects fail altogether. If you bet against all non-elite prospects ever being MLB starters you’re going to have a ridiculously high hit rate.

          Law is kind of the king of oversimplification, though… Not a lot of insight usually.

          • Farewell Mo

            He’s responding to questions for an hour on an ESPN chat so they’re gonna be brief bottom line type answers understandably

            • YakaTanaka

              I understand that and never made any value judgement on it. It’s still his MO.

        • Leftylarry

          He also said in the past Shane Greene wasn’t a real prospect and was down on Betances last year also.

          • Yanks

            Everyone was down on Betances and Shane Greene never seemed like this good of a prospect, so…

            • Glenn Taglieri

              Shane Greene was the Yankee minor league pitcher of the year in 2013

    • YakaTanaka

      Arm is kind of a complementary tool. Doesn’t do much for you by itself. Kind of more icing on the cake. (Five tools are just kind of a simplistic framework anyway… ignores patience and doesn’t really weight anything.)

      A quick tweet from a journalist also isn’t necessarily the most reliable…

      • Yanks

        Not necessarily, but that’s what most writers seem to think. Law thought the same. Plus, Blair will be writing a more in-depth report I’m sure, as BP writers do for eyewitness reports.

        • YakaTanaka

          How is arm not necessarily a complementary tool? Can you think of any position player in baseball history whose arm carried him to MLB success? A good arm has real value, but if you’re lacking in the rest of the game you’ll never have a chance to show it.

          Hit, power, and overall defense, on the other hand, are tools that can carry a player.

          Arm is really part of fielding. If you came up with five tools today, I think arm would be merged with fielding and patience would be one of the five.

          Speed is also complementary, but plays into both offense and defense.

          • Yanks

            I was talking about the quick tweet part, not the arm part. I agree the arm tool is outdated and not really necessary, but Cave should be regarded as a guy with a strong arm.

            • YakaTanaka

              Oh, missed that.

              Possible. Can’t really base it on his HS pitching, though. Throwing hard for 60.5 feet and throwing an accurate ball from deep center aren’t completely correlated.

              I think the tools framework throws some analysts off because it’s not a great framework. Cave isn’t an elite prospect, though, I’d agree on that. I just think that there is enough overlap among the bands that guys like Law shouldn’t act so certain about how guys will end up. The margin of error is enormous.

    • Go Win

      Cave was the DSL hits leader even a week after being promoted tomAA. He has a good package of above average hit ability, speed and defense. He also has a line drive swing that could translate into some more HRs as he matures physically. He is also LH which fits well yankees stadium.

    • ACX

      Didn’t Jeter have some crazy amount of errors the year before he came up in 1995?

    • Scott

      Did you see how many errors Jeter had in his first year in the minors?

  • Guest

    None of these guys will be anything.

    • Yanks

      Stellar analysis

  • UnKnown

    What is Sizemore’s story? What a weird year.

  • forensic

    Yikes, no bueno Banuelos.

    • Go Win

      Banuelos did ok for the first 3 innings, keeping the zero on the board, while allowing one hit, 3 walks and 3 Ks. His control went completely off to start the 4th with 3 consecutive BBs. Interestingly Leroux rescued him, inheriting the bases loaded with no outs and not allowing even one run to score.

      • nycsportzfan

        In the end, I think Leroux saving his bacon helps Banuelos a bit, as its probably easier to shake off 6 bb’s when your team wins and your ERA went down for the night. Good work Leroux.

        • Go Win

          BTW, do you know what pitches is Leroux throwing lately? If I understand correctly he developed a splitter during his time in Japan. I know he was rocked in one of his two relief appearances for the yankees, but after a slow start, he now if allowing a sub 200 batting average against since the start of June in AAA.

  • Go Win

    Jose Pena now has a 0.89 ERA across three levels. He has 38 Ks, 8 BBs and only 6 hits in 30.1 IPs. That is a batting average of of .065 and a whip of 0.46. He only crossed the street from the GCL to play in Tampa for a pinch relief appearance (second time he does that in the year) but he seems more than fully ready for the challenge. Hope he gets more opportunity to show what he is worth at the FSL.

  • Guest

    I hereby dub Shawn Kelley, “Screwball”. Let this be his name now and forever.

    • Angelo

      Wrong thread…?

  • JLC 776

    Hopefully not a trend for Manny… Always fun to root for the home-grown guys.

  • Go Win

    Great to see Scranton beating the Paw Sox 4 games in a row. They are said to have this great minor league system, with a lot of prospects in the upper levels almost ready to contribute. Over-hyped to say the least in my POV.

  • Go Win

    As per Pete Caldera the yankees are out of the running for Rusney Castillo. It seems that the expected salary – about 10 Mio / year – plus its implications on the luxury tax made them decide against signing him.

    • W.B. Mason Williams

      Let the sh**storm begin.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Not hearing anyone else say it yet, though.

      When will people learn that, as long as the rest of the league is interested in the same guy you are, you take the field over your team getting him?

      • Dick M

        It’s pretty obvious, what with like 190 mill already committed not counting DRob.
        This has nothing to do with that lame horse racing analogy.

      • Angelo

        Yeah, it’s been pretty confusing reading the “what are the Yankees going to do about Refsnyder?!” comments because of this. There’s a good chance the Yankees don’t even land Castillo.

        And if they did, it would be a pretty great problem to have.

    • Scott

      Then there is this:

      Several competitors believe that the Phillies are the favorites to land Castillo, George A. King III of the New York Post reports, though that is not a universally shared belief. While Castillo is actively considering offers, there is presently no known timetable for him to choose a team and finalize a contract, King adds. Sources tell King that the contractual guarantee will likely fall in the $40MM to $55MM range.
      No one is sure where he will go. I don’t believe the Yanks will not sign him due to money. I know Hal wants to reign in the spending but if the Yanks have a chance to improve and make a run at the playoffs, I think they will do it.

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    While Man-Ban’s line isn’t spectacular, it seems pretty clear that the opposing lineup had a harder time hitting than he did locating.

    • Jrock1974

      IETC! Jackie Robinson Bradley Jr couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat. Red Sox prospects are so overhyped. Yankees system underrated IMO.

      • Go Win

        Couldn’t agree more, both in terms of the Sox over-hype and the Yankees system being underrated. I think though that the Sox system is coming back to earth. I could see both systems ranked much closer to each other this off-season (but still with the Sox ahead).

      • W.B. Mason Williams

        I’d say they’re right about where they should be, maybe a little high even. Lots of potential, but also lots of guy dealing with injuries, non-utilization of tools and attitude issues.

        But what is a prospect if not potential? Glad to see Man-Ban a step away from the show. A year from now I hope he’s lived up to his upside.

  • Jrock1974

    Hey guys, was at the Scranton game tonight and it’s clear Manny B just needs to get more innings under his belt. Topped out at 92 on the stadium gun and lost it in the 4th. Rumbelow was impressive in the 9th. Looks like a Drob clone on the mound. Offensively, refsnyder looks to have a nice quiet stance and really squared a couple of balls up and Pirella hit a rocket into left center for his only hit. Roller had a couple solid knocks as well. Have to think if(when) Tex goes down again he deserves a shot.

    • Go Win

      jrock, thanks a lot for the update! Were Roller’s hits to the opposite side? It seems that a lot of his improvement has to do with him going the other way – he has 59 hits to left field vs only 38 to right. He seems to have matured a lot as a hitter. How did he look at the plate?

      • Jrock1974

        Glad to do it Go Win. Been a loyal reader of RAB and Dotf for years. Figured it was finally time to throw my 2¢ in. Roller’s hits both went to right. The only thing he hit to the opposite field was a rocket foul ball that clanged off a seat about 8 rows away from me then nailed me in the side of the neck. At least the guy in the row behind me who got the ball gave it to my son.

        • Go Win

          There you go Jrock, that’s what I would call a first hand look at Roller’s oppo power!

    • nycsportzfan

      I love Refsnyder’s stance. The reason he stands out as a future AS as far as offensively on top of his batting eye and ability to drive the ball as a fairly slightly built 6ft 1in 205lbs or so, is his ability to hit rockets to all fields. I can see him knocking HR’s over the short porch often which is rare for a middle infielder. Kinda like Jeter used to as a younger player.. I think his stance is nice for going the other way. It basically is the one thing you think young, slightly built middle infielders can’t do is smack the ball out oppo field and hit lindrives to right/center. Trouts stance is also great for going oppo with authority. Makes the kid a complete hitter. I love me some Refs. Pretty cool you got to watch him.

      • Jrock1974

        I agree. He has that “the ball sounds different coming off his bat” quality. While he had 2 hits on the night, the sac fly to cf was a rocket.

        • nycsportzfan

          totally agree. Also, so the guy has 2hits plus a sac fly coming off back to back 3hit games. Jeez!!!lol

          • ACX

            You find ways to get good bats in the lineup. If they determine he can’t grasp 2B, which doesn’t seem to really be the case, put him back in RF where he started.

            He is preferrable at 2B because RF needs to be free for Aaron Judge and maybe Tyler Austin (though I would be playing Austin at 3B as much as possible).

      • W.B. Mason Williams

        Hard not to get excited about him. He looks like a legit MLB starter, assuming his reps at 2B prove his inability to play it.

        I’d honestly like to see how his bat compares with the top 2B prospects in the league.

        • nycsportzfan

          I’d be pretty annoyed if the dude coulden’t at least be adequete enough at 2nd defensively to make his offense kinda outshine it and make it less of a worry for the Yanks.

    • YakaTanaka

      Refsnyder has a nice clean swing.

  • nycsportzfan

    Does Refsnyder know how to have mediocre nights at the plate? Jesus.

    • TB

      If he just improves a little on his defense we got something there

      • ACX

        It comes with time…..
        As long as he gets consistent work and puts in the effort (which by all accounts he does), he will be good enough on D to make it worth it.

  • nycsportzfan

    Rumbelow is gonna help the ML team or at least help em via trade. Nice pick by Yanks.

  • nycsportzfan

    Pretty slow night overall down on the farm. Oh well, it happens.

  • Jason
    • Dos Luises

      Maybe the Yanks “interest” was to drive up pricetag for rSox.

    • Angelo

      Please try to stay on topic within a thread. This thread is specifically about Yankee prospects, not Rusney Castillo. It’s a part of guidelines for the site if you haven’t read them.

  • vicki

    i caught some of the sweep @ pawtucket this weekend. cannot play it cool with ref anymore. true love.

    he actually did not look like someone whose defense has been questioned; in fact over two games he looked pretty damn good around the base at second. sharp relay. also, if you want to see his picture look up gap power in the dictionary. the only question is what number he’ll wear if a-rod takes 13 next year.

    • Dick M

      yeah but Toucan has an issue with his babip. evidently not sustainable.

      • nylsjd

        Looking at minor league babip now, hilarious.

  • ACX

    6 walks? Just one of those nights for ManBan….

    • Scott

      After TJ surgery control takes the longest to come back. Pitchers are usually surprised at how quick/well their velocity comes back. But the control takes a while. Not worried yet, I’ll pass judgement next year.

      • Angelo

        Yeah, I think many are aware of the recovery period from TJ surgery. And waiting till next year is probably the smart bet.

  • nylsjd

    Remember that time nycsportzbag said Sulbaran was a legit prospect and laughed about us stealing him for Nunez? Oh man, that was a good one.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Seems like both of you need to wait and see there.

    • Scott

      Small sample size for both the good and the bad. Lets give him a full year in the Yanks system before we pass judgement.
      Nunez hasn’t done anything special with the Twins. He’s hitting .192 in his last 10 games and .245 overall. So even if Sulbaran doesn’t pan out, it’s not like the Yanks gave up much.

  • Rick

    6 walks, but generated ground balls and limited hits. To walk 6 and not allow a run shows a little fight.

  • blake

    It seems like Mannys stuff is back because he’s not really getting hit but obviously 6 walks in 3 innings is a problem and his control has been keeping him from building innings for awhile even before he got hurt

    Banuelos has always frustrated me because he has tendency to nibble…at least the times I’ve seen him. Don’t know if that was an issue yesterday or if he was just wild but I’ve seen him so many times “just miss” 15 times and walk 3 or 4 guys simply by trying to hits spots better than his command allows.

    I’ve always thought he had a nice ceiling because I like his stuff and his delivery should lend itself to better control/command……but it’s just not there. He needs to focus on not walking people as a #1 priority and then let the command develop in time. He’s never gonna build his innings if he doesn’t

    • Eric MacLaurin

      For those that didn’t look closely, Banuelos was ok until the third. He walked 5 of the last 6 he faced in the game and was bailed out after walking the bases loaded with no outs.

      There is no way he’s a starter this year but for the last half dozen plus starts he’s been more than good enough to help out of the pen for multiple innings.

  • Alex Loparco

    Call refsnyder up!

    • Thunderfingers (prev. I’m One)

      It’s not gonna happen this year (or at least it’s very unlikely), but man, that kid just continues to hit the snot out of the ball. Hope the day comes soon when we see him starting at 2B for the big league team and he continues to hit as he’s done in the minors.

      • PerfectlyCromulent

        He’s definitely hit…and even the power has been somewhat there for a 2B. He did just come out of a slump though. He’s good, but somehow i feel like Rusney will bump this kid out, the Yankees will either for Refs to play a new position or ship him out, and he’ll be amazing for some other team.

    • Frodo

      He’s blocked by Drew