DotF: Bird homers again in Trenton’s loss

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Jeter's clutch hit snaps five-game losing streak, Yankees beat Rays 3-2

OF Tyler Austin made the In The Team Photo section of this week’s Prospect Hot Sheet. In other news, Chris Cotillo says RHP Chris Leroux cleared waivers and accepted his outright assignment to Triple-A. He was designated for assignment to clear a spot on the roster for Michael Pineda the other day.

Triple-A Scranton (9-4 win over Pawtucket)

  • LF Jose Pirela: 2-4, 1 R, 2 BB
  • 2B Rob Refsnyder: 3-6, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 K — 13-for-38 (.342) in his last nine games
  • CF Zoilo Almonte: 2-4, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 SB
  • 1B Kyle Roller: 1-5, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 2 K
  • 3B Zelous Wheeler: 3-4, 2 R, 2 2B, 1 RBI, 1 BB
  • LHP Nik Turley: 5.1 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 5 BB, 4 K, 1 HB, 3/5 GB/FB — 52 of 99 pitches were strikes … 39/36 K/BB in 50.1 innings
  • SwP Pat Venditte: 2 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 1/0 GB/FB – 31 of 46 pitches were strikes (67%)

Double-A Trenton (8-1 loss to Bowie)

  • CF Jake Cave: 0-5, 2 K
  • LF Ben Gamel: 1-4, 1 K
  • 1B Greg Bird: 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 K — five homers in 13 game with Trenton after hitting seven homers in 75 games with Tampa
  • DH Tyler Austin: 0-4, 3 K
  • 3B Dante Bichette Jr.: 0-3, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 E (missed catch)
  • RF Mason Williams: 1-3, 1 BB
  • RHP Danny Burawa: 2.2 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 3/2 GB/FB — 30 of 50 pitches were strikes
  • RHP Mark Montgomery: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 0/2 GB/FB — nine pitches, eight strikes

High-A Tampa (10-2 loss to Daytona)

  • CF Mark Payton: 0-4, 1 BB, 1 K
  • SS Cito Culver: 1-2, 1 RBI, 3 BB — 50 walks are the sixth most in the system
  • 3B Eric Jagielo: 0-4, 1 K, 1 HBP
  • RF Aaron Judge: 1-4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 BB, 2 K
  • RHP Chris Smith: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 1 WP, 2/0 GB/FB — 44/13 K/BB in 47.1 innings

Low-A Charleston (7-2 win over Rome)

  • LF Michael O’Neill: 3-4, 1 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1 SB – ten homers and 37 steals (in 44 attempts) this year
  • SS Abi Avelino: 0-4, 1 K
  • 3B Miguel Andujar: 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 K — 9-for-29 (.310) in his last seven games
  • 2B Gosuke Katoh: 1-2, 1 R, 2 BB, 1 K — ten walks and three strikeouts in his last nine games
  • RHP Gabe Encinas: 3 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 1 HB, 3/2 GB/FB — 33 of 54 pitches were strikes (61%)
  • LHP Chaz Hebert: 5 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 9/2 GB/FB — 42 of 69 pitches were strikes (61%) … down to a 2.72 ERA in 59.2 innings with the River Dogs

Short Season Staten Island (6-1 loss to Tri-City)

  • 2B Ty McFarland: 1-4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 K, 1 E (fielding) — 17 errors in 52 games
  • 1B Connor Spencer: 1-3, 1 E (fielding)
  • C Luis Torrens: 0-3, 1 K
  • LF Chris Breen: 1-3, 1 K
  • RHP David Palladino: 5 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 4 BB, 1 K, 1 WP, 1 HB, 8/3 GB/FB
  • RHP Rony Bautista: 2 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 WP, 1/2 GB/FB

Rookie GCL Yanks1 Game One (5-0 loss to GCL Yanks2 in seven innings) makeup of yesterday’s rainout … combining the two teams together since they played each other

  • RF Alex Palma: 0-2, 1 HBP – left the game after being hit by a pitch in the sixth, though he did stay in to run the bases
  • 3B Drew Bridges & CF Leonardo Molina: both 0-3, 1 K
  • LF Dominic Jose: 0-3, 2 K
  • RF Ramon Flores: 1-3, 1 2B, 2 K — played five innings as he works his way back from the ankle injury
  • DH Jake Hernandez: 1-4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 K
  • SS Yancarlos Baez: 2-2, 1 3B, 2 RBI, 1 BB
  • RHP Simon De La Rosa: 2.2 IP, 2 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 5 BB, 5 K, 1 WP, 1 Balk, 1/1 GB/FB — 51/23 K/BB in 40 innings for the 21-year-old
  • LHP Orby Tavares: 2.1 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 4/1 GB/FB — 25/16 K/BB in 33.1 innings
  • RHP Jhon Morban: 5 IP, zeroes, 4 K, 1 HB, 5/4 GB/FB

Rookie GCL Yanks2 (3-1 win over GCL Yanks2 in seven innings) combining them again

  • Jose Figueroa: 1-3, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 K — 13-for-39 (.333) in his last ten games
  • SS Yancarlos Baez: 0-3, 1 K
  • SS Bryan Cuevas: 0-0, 1 R, 3 BB
  • DH Drew Bridges: 1-2, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K
  • LF Dominic Jose: 0-3, 2 K
  • CF Leonardo Molina: 0-2, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K, 2 SB
  • LHP Carlos Diaz: 3 IP, 0 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 5 BB, 3 K, 1 Balk, 2/2 GB/FB – picked a runner off first … 37/38 K/BB in 34.2 innings for the 19-year-old
  • RHP Juan Cedeno: 4 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 2/4 GB/FB — 25/6 K/BB in 30 innings for the 20-year-old
  • RHP Manolo Reyes: 2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 3/0 GB/FB
  • LHP Jonny Drozd: 1 IP, zeroes, 2 K, 1/0 GB/FB – 15/0 KB in 10.1 innings for the 6-foot-7 undrafted free agent
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  • Dos Luises

    If only we could get daily fielding updates on Ref.

    • Preston

      Fielding Percentage obviously has flaws, but he currently has a .989 FP, which is the best he’s posted at any level (he posted a .968 this year at Trenton and has a .960 overall for his MiLB career) so I think there is some indications that he’s making the necessary progress. He’s always had the athleticism, it seems he’s finally gotten comfortable enough to start making the plays consistently.

  • https://OldKinderhook.wordpress.com Prospect Hugger

    What? No position players pitching tonight? And on a related note, any chance Jonny Drozd gets promoted a level or two before the end of the season?

    (And how do you pronounce “Drozd”?)

    • Go Win

      The minor leagues are running out of games. It is unlikely that Drozd gets promoted this season.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Should he be billed as “The Unpredictable” Jonny Drozd?

  • Yanks

    Andujar’s turnaround has been stunning. Has really shown that star potential in the second half. Nice to see him not crumble and instead adjust.

    A BP writer was raving about Tyler Austin:

    Tucker Blair @TuckerBlairON · 6h

    #Yankees Tyler Austin has lightning quick hands and fluid bat through zone; ball jumps off bat; sprays ball all over with balance

    Aug 15.
    #Yankees Tyler Austin having a good night. 2 doubles and hard liner to CF; good bat speed; quick wrists; good sound off bat

    The part about the wrists is huge.

    • Willkamm

      I was at tonight’s game and last night’s with Bowie. Bird really was crushing the ball tonight, Austin hit it well last night. Burawa was hitting 97 if the gun was accurate.

      • Yanks

        That’s generally where Burawa sits, it just isn’t well-located usually. Good to hear about Austin and Bird. The same BP writer said Bird had limited range at 1B, but soft hands. How did he look?

        • Willkamm

          He made at least one really good defensive play on a rocket down the line. He had no trouble with any of the bad throws. I’ll check his range out Sunday and report back.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Good stuff from both of you here. It’d be great to wake up in the morning, read the previous night’s DOTF, and more stuff like this and less the recent nonsense on here.

            • Willkamm

              I think I know what you mean. :) I really love watching minor league ball. Always go to Bowie when Trenton is in. This is the 1st time I made plans to see all three games. Look forward to Sunday as I’m going with a neighbor who played 3B in the Twins system in the 1980’S. He’s really got a fantastic eye.

              • Go Win

                Thanks Willkamm for the report. Very interesting!

                • Willkamm

                  I appreciate your encouragement.

        • Yanks

          And just some more from the same BP writer for those interested:

          #Yankees Jaron Long was 87-88 last night; flat FB; avg arm speed; stiff delivery; avg CB; poor CH; cmmd was avg to solid avg.

          #Yankees 2014 2nd rd LHP Jacob Lindgren 90-92 with life and cut; SL 82-84 with hard tilt; plus-plus offering; just mowed down Bowie

          • Willkamm

            That would have been my take on both pitchers. Was not at all impressed with Long. Lindgren, another story. The guy ran back out to the mound to pitch the 8th. They just flailed at him. Struck out 5 out of 7 batters he faced. His stuff was scary.

            • Yanks

              Not really surprised on Long. Seems like a classic case of guy with below average stuff having a surprisingly good season and people going wild. It certainly doesn’t sound like ML caliber stuff.

              • Willkamm

                Correct. I didn’t think so at all. Gamel, Cave and Austin have to be one of the better AA outfields I’ve seen. Cave saved 2 runs in the 1st with a running catch to the CF wall. There were a lot of very loud outs to the OF off of Long last night that those 3 guys tracked down. Made Long’s numbers look a lot better. He did not get a swinging strike Friday evening until the third inning. He didn’t fool anyone.

                • Yanks

                  Hard to believe any scout said he could have a chance for the MLB by the end of the year… he’d basically need to pick up 4-5 miles on his fastball to even come close to consideration with the rest of his mediocre arsenal. Nice to hear about Cave’s defense. Can only imagine how ridiculously good an outfield defense with Cave, Williams, and Heathcott would be.

                  • Willkamm

                    I just looked back over my scorecard and can’t believe I forgot this. Maybe because it was the 1st inning I didn’t remember. That solo shot Bird hit with two gone in the 1st went to the deepest part of the park. CF, over the 405 ft. sign. The O’s starter Zach Davies, looked pretty good. He changed speeds well, and located his pitches well. Struck out nine in 6 innings. He was tough on pretty much everyone but Bird. HR came off a pretty decent pitcher.

                    • Yanks

                      Yeah, Bird does well against righties. He actually has been very bad against lefties this year after being good last year, so that’s something to look out for if you see him against a lefty.

                  • Willkamm

                    Williams was in RF tonight and Austin last night. Cave/Gamel, CF/LF both nights. They all got a good workout last night with Jaron “Fly Ball” Long on the mound. Cave also mad a nice catch in RCF last night. About Williams; He really badly misjudged a ball in RF tonight that went for a 2B. He may have stumbled. What I really didn’t like was he went and got a ball later on that should have been Cave’s and he kind of ran Cave off the ball.

                    • Yanks

                      Probably not used to RF and has a CF’s mentality, but that may also be part of the character concerns that pop up with Mason from time to time.

    • Willkamm

      About Austin: Last night’s Bowie starter was a really tricky 27 year old lefty. Tricky for AA. Bird had problems with him but Tyler was all over his stuff. The guy would bust a 91 MPH fastball after throwing a 69 MPH change up. He’d use both the change and 81 MPH curve to set the FB up. Austin drilled two 2B and a single off of him. Wasn’t fooled at all.

  • Go Win

    Montgomery has now a 1.1 ERA in 16.1 IP in Trenton. Also Burawa doing very well in AA and Pinder in AAA? Given the roster crunch, only one of them will be protected from Rule 5 at best. Assuming they protect 1, who would you take?

    • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

      We have a lot of people whose contract expires at the end of the year so they might find room for more than one. If it comes down to one, I wouldn’t argue against any one of them, since they’re pretty similar in my eyes.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    That would be a 100% different Juan Cedeno than the journeyman lefty we had on board a few seasons ago, I am 99.999999% positive of.

    • Yanks

      It’s Luis Cedeno, not Juan. Mike made a little mistake.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Ah. Mike dreaming of a past old lefty fodder flame.

        • Go Win

          The Yankees also have a Moises Cedeno pitching well in the DSL. Either Cedeno is the most popular surname in Domenican Republic or the Yankees want to go back to the past.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Who else has there really been in baseball, other than these guys and Cesar?

            • Yanks

              Fangraphs has 21 Cedenos registered, with three of them being Luis Cedenos.

            • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

              Ronnie the short stop and Roger the OF.

  • Willkamm

    Game in Bowie was a nightmare even if there were some good individual performances. Men on second and third no outs in the sixth and all they managed was a walk and three K’s. Bowie’s big 5 run 7th featured a couple of errors. Poor Austin K’d 3 times tonight after hitting the ball really well last night. Burawa was at 97 if the gun was right, and Bird hit a HR and long 2b.

    • Go Win

      Burawa could very well be next years Kahnle – a high upside reliever who has still some areas for improvement (ie walks for Kahnle) and is left unprotected in the Rule 5 to be picked and succeed in a different team.

      • Yanks

        I wouldn’t protect him. He throws hard, but has no control and is going to be 26 at the end of the year. Let some team take him and try and work out the kinks, he’s not really worth protecting if you ask me.

        • Preston

          It depends on how crowded the 40 man is at that point. A lot of things could change between now and the Rule 5 draft. You can never have enough good relievers.

          • Go Win

            I did some back of the envelope calculations and the yankees will be able to protect 4 players from the Rule 5 draft, 5 at the very most in my POV. This already includes some assumptions to make room in the roster for example Heathcott being DFAd. In my account Mason Williams and Tyler Austin will almost surely be protected. This would leave 2 or a max of 3 roster spots to protect a series of pitchers (including starters and relievers) which include Turley, Tracy, Nuding, Pinder, Montogomery and Burawa. This also assumes no love for Roller and Pirela who have almost no chance to be protected in my POV.

            • Preston

              I don’t think it would be a big deal if they left any of those pitchers unprotected.

              • Yanks

                Yep. Montgomery is just a guy if he doesn’t have his slider at top level since his other offerings are average at best. Turley doesn’t have any control, Nuding is bad as a starter, Pinder is meh, Burawa has no control, Tracy is meh. Roller is obviously not going to be protected for good reason and Pirela… meh… let him have a chance elsewhere.

                • Preston

                  Maybe we could even leave the roster at 39 and take a chance at another teams scraps being better than ours in the Rule 5 draft.

            • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

              Doesn’t seem like Williams would need to be protected at this point.
              Hard to imagine he’d make it a full season on somebody’s MLB roster next year.

              • Jorge Steinbrenner

                Agreed.

  • Bigdan

    Sure would have liked to have seen some Pirela and Almonte in NY before the whole Headley, Drew and Prado thing went down. May not have made any difference at all but I sure would like to have seen it. I know I wouldn’t have missed those Soriano, Ichiro, Kelly and Roberts ABs.

    • Yanks

      Pirela’s defense would be an eyesore.

      • Bigdan

        Maybe, but it’s not like Roberts set the bar real high.

        • Yanks

          Yeah, but Roberts sucked. If your bar is being better than Roberts, you still have a replacement level player.

          • Bigdan

            If he’s better than Roberts that doesn’t mean he’s a replacement player. Hell, he could be an All Star and anything in between. That’s the point. Replacing a replacement player should be easy. For some reason, with the Yanks it wasn’t.

            • Yanks

              Why are we acting like 24 year old Jose Pirela is a big time player? He’s had a good season, sure, but he’s not a 2nd baseman defensively, and the bat doesn’t play for a corner outfield position (nor does the defense most likely).

              • Preston

                His best skill this season is that he’s hitting for average, and that’s due to a .334 BABIP. He has a below average walk rate, and below average power, and if you normalized his BABIP, his BA wouldn’t be very impressive either.

              • Jorge Steinbrenner

                Because Yangervis Solarte is about to enter his prime and will be a force for years to come.

              • Bigdan

                My understanding is Pirela is adequate defensively as a utility player and at 2b. He was awful as a SS and that’s where many people remember him as a fielder. But I’ve never seen him in the field so I don’t know. I do know Roberts was a poor defensive 2b and a well below average hitter. Pirela, at age 24, has hit over .300 in over .300 ABs in his first season in AAA. And that wasn’t in the PCL. In my opinion, he deserved a ML shot as an alternative to a replacement level player like Roberts. .

      • Preston

        Pirela would probably be an eyesore period, but Dan doesn’t think defense matters.

        • Bigdan

          much.

      • renzostew

        he does not have many errors in his whole career.I realy don’t know where this bad defense is coming from.

        • Yanks

          Because errors are the way to determine if a player is good on defense or not.

        • Preston

          Because he’s fat and slow, he doesn’t get to enough balls to commit errors.

        • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

          It’s not just about errors, but he actually has a ton of errors in his career (154 in 8 seasons). He has cut down a bit the last couple of years, but at 2B still errors at a rate that would probably put him among the worst in the league over a full season.

    • Kevin Wrong

      Almonte isnt anything special

  • nycsportzfan

    Rob Refs with another big game. Same old same old for the slugging 2nd basemen. Makes me sleepy writing this same thing just about every night.lol

  • nycsportzfan

    Refs scranton numbers are pretty freaking good. Forget anything hes done below tripA, which is mash, hes hitting 300ba 8hr 29rbi 388obp 864ops 15doubs in over 230abs at the highest minor league level the majors has to offer. I mean, this is a well seasoned former College WS MVP here.. I sure hope we give this kid as a real hard look this offseason for the soon to be open 2nd base job.

    • Preston

      I’d certainly rather go with Refsnyder than throw a bunch of money at a Cuban OFer and hope he can hit MLB pitching and field at 2b.

      • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

        It’s not the Yanks are forcing Gardner with Power to 2nd base, it’s that he has somewhat extensive infield experience too but most teams like him better in the OF.

        P.S. I honestly don’t remember his name. All I remember is “Gardner with more power.”

        • Preston

          If it was a certainty that he could play the INF adequately ALL teams would like him better in the INF.

          • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

            It might be closer to what happened with Aaron Hicks early in his career. A lot of teams loved his mid-90s fastball but the Twins liked him better as a toolsy centerfielder.

        • Yanks

          Gardner with power is not a good comp, as Ben Badler pointed out. I believe he said Rajai Davis was the comparison.

          • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

            Rajai Davis is a perfectly serviceable outfielder, nothing wrong with that, if not for the fact that we have Gardner and Ellsbury already. Having a Rajai Davis as a part time player isn’t the worst thing in the world.

            • Preston

              Agreed, as long as the price is commensurate with that value.

            • Go Win

              The comp was Rajai Davis with more power. Assumimg the scouting report is correct, the questions seems to be 1) can he really play asequate defense at 2B, and 2) should the yankees give the opportunity to Refsnyder and invest there USD in some of the other holes the roster has. If you ask me, and assuming the scouting report is correct, I would sign Castillo in a heartbeat. A player about to enter his prime with above average power and plus speed, that is just entering his prime without costing any draft picks is too tempting to pass, specially for an offense that has been anemic to say the least.

              • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

                Luckily as the Yankees, gambling with money is the one thing that’s not a problem.

            • Yanks

              Paying Rajai Davis the amount of money that Castillo is supposedly going to get would be the worst thing in the world.

              • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

                It’s all relative. Nobody will pay Davis that much, so it’d be silly to pay him that much. Since there are other teams who may be willing to may that guy that much, it wouldn’t be too bad.

          • YakaTanaka

            That’s one man’s opinion… Player comps are not an absolute thing. Different people are going to have different opinions.

    • Kevin Wrong

      You dont want to bring any of these players up to the yankees until they fire me — trust me on that

      • Preston

        Name one concrete thing you know that Kevin Long has done to negatively effect any hitter on the Yankees.

        • Kevin Wrong

          If you dont know that you either dont follow the team or dont know a thing about baseball. I have pretty much ruined every hitter who has come here

          • Preston

            Please explain to the unenlightened. If it’s as obvious as you say it is, it should be easy to come up with one concrete example of something he’s done to negatively effect a single Yankee player.

            • Kevin Wrong

              Lmao you actually dont know – lol – like i said u can start by looking how players numbers have dropped under long. Then read his book and his interviews on his hitting philosophy and u will begin to understand better

              • Yanks

                It’s almost like hitters sometimes start sucking… how is Long supposed to fix Brian McCann, a long time All-Star hitter? Long can’t magically make McCann better, he can only do so much, and he has tried to help…

                • Kevin Wrong

                  No he made him worse – like he does most hitters especially lefties because he wants lefties to pull everything and hit off the breaking ball…

                  • CashmanNinja

                    Actually…Kevin Long did work with Giambi in his last year. And he spent ages with Tex to try to get him to spray the ball all over the field instead of just pulling it, but nothing would change Tex from pulling it. The guy got pull happy and nothing could change that. He also got rid of McCann’s toe tap and before the All-Star break there was a very noticeable difference. Cry all you like, but they won a ring with Long as their hitting coach and a lot of guys had terrific seasons with him.

                    • Preston

                      Right, the one hitter I’ve ever heard criticize Long was Tex, and his criticism was he tried to change him as a hitter, and that he needed to just ignore the shift and be who he was.

                    • Kevin Wrong

                      LOL – Wrong completely – Kevin long changed teix after 2009 to move his stance to make him pull more.. In regards to the shift – LONG stated this publicly on more than half a dozen occassions – I will not alter my players swings or try to get them to hit against the shift – i am not going to change because other teams are playing a different defense against us

                    • Preston

                      You said it, must be true. I’ll bet you shake your head during every single team meeting and batting practice. I’m so glad someone so privy to the inner team workings is on this blog. Please keep me updated on all of Long’s blunders. Hopefully Girardi and Cashman will wise up and our national nightmare will be over.

                    • Jorge Steinbrenner

                      TB agrees with everything he says as well.

                    • YakaTanaka

                      You act as if these hitters have no free will…

                    • Kevin Wrong

                      Wrong he didnt – Giambi actually went back to working with Rick Down in 2008 – He lobbied for him to replace mattingly but AROD wanted kevin Long – Teix did hit the ball the other way before he became a yankee – Teix then had a great first year with the yankees ironically because he didnt work with long the first year here – something he stated publicly that he too many things to transition too with a new team and didnt want to change anything – Teix began to work with Long in the off-season after 2009 and that was the beginning of his massive drop in batting average

                    • CashmanNinja

                      Kevin Long did work with Giambi though. When Giambi was hitting way under .200, Long was freaking glued to the tape trying to find some hole in his swing and devoted all of his attention to Giambi. And Tex was a spray hitter before he got to New York, but HE saw the short porch and became home run happy…similar to what happened when Giambi came here in the first place. Long has always been for going the opposite field, but hitters simply don’t want to in Yankee Stadium because of how short the porch is. You seem to have a chub for Kevin Long…obsessed much?

                    • Kevin Wrong

                      Giambi didnt – he did the same thing jeter did – he went down to tampa for help there.

                    • YakaTanaka

                      Are you saying that every time they wanted hitting advice during the season, they flew to Tampa?

                    • Kevin Wrong

                      And so you know in 2007 almost all of the hitters worked with Mattingly even though he was promoted to bench coach… The majority of the team didnt want Kevin Long – He was ARODS personal instructor and thats how he got the job

                • Kevin Wrong

                  Another thing u should have noticed – no team over the past few years has been shifted against as much as the yankees have….Why do you think that is???

                  • Preston

                    I think the fact that the Rays were the first team to aggressively shift, and the O’s and Red Sox were soon to follow has a lot to do with it. Hitters are who they are, they don’t just start hitting to all fields because the hitting coach asks them too.

                    • Kevin Wrong

                      No thats not actually why – Because he teaches his players to pull everything thats why – he has even admitted in public he wont teach his players to hit against the shift. that he wont adapt and change just because teams throw that style defense at him….Thats why

                • Willkamm

                  It just may be some hitters decline when they come to the Yankees because the Yankees get them after they have peaked.

              • Preston

                So you can’t find one example, so instead you adopt a condescending tone and pretend you know more than I do. The truth is you have no idea what Kevin Long contributes to the team. I don’t either. I tend to think that the MLB veterans on this roster are mostly responsible for their own successes and failures and Long doesn’t have an effect one way or the other.

                • Kevin Wrong

                  preston i just told you – go look up most of the players who have come under long – thats tons of examples lol

                  • Preston

                    No, I don’t care to do the research. You’re the one making the assertion. So please show me some kind of organized conclusive data of Yankee hitters pre-long and post long. Or show me one player where there is a verifiable thing Long did to negatively effect them. Because otherwise it’s simply a anecdotal generalization.

                • Mick

                  Didn’t Jeter reject Long’s advances?

                • YakaTanaka

                  Pretty much…

                  Wouldn’t say he has no impact, though.

            • Tar

              Jeter

          • Preston

            Or it was a joke…

        • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

          Sources say Long once hid Giambi’s golden thong.

          • Kevin Wrong

            Giambi never worked with long so u dont have anything to worry about there

          • Kevin Wrong

            Giambi swore by Mattingly and Rick Down though.. He said both were great hitting instructors

            • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

              Still incredibly creepy how multiple players have worn the thong in attempts to break slumps. Damon and at least one other guy.

              • Kevin Wrong

                That is creepy and wasnt Giambi’s a golden thong?

                • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

                  Google “Giambi Damon Golden Thong” and take your pick of the articles. I’ll leave the juicy details but apparently the thong started around 1996.

                  Some superstitions are weird but this is honestly plain creepy.

                  • Dos Luises

                    Perhaps inspired by Bull Durham where it was a garter, but same concept.

    • Willkamm

      Doing very well at AAA and has an excellent pedigree.

  • nycsportzfan

    By the way, in a really bad yr overall, Katoh also continues to turn his season around. Now has his OBP at right about 350obp for the season. Avg slowing working itself toward 240’s with the 17sb and 6 triples, showing off his speed.. Good for him. Shows hes got bigtime motor and not willing to give up on a season.

    • Preston

      The strikeout rate is still very problematic.

      • Go Win

        That is also my concern. Now doubt he can fly on the bases and draw some walks. His avg has gone up since June also. But the Ks have consistently been over 30%. Wonder if it just reflects that umpires have a very wide strike zone in the minors. In any case he is 2.5 yrs younger than league average and the learning curve shows some positive signes.

        • Preston

          There are plenty of positive signs, he’s improved his K rate greatly over the course of the season. But there is still a ways to go.

          • CashmanNinja

            The fact that he fought back after such a…dreadful…first half does count as a positive. Some players would have chalked it up as a lost season and given up, but he’s kept fighting and I do like that a lot. He also obviously showcases decent speed and ability to get on base…when not striking out. But overall he shows good speed and can hit well enough where he can utilize that speed.. I feel things like K’s can be corrected a bit with a lot of work. He’ll probably always K a bit more than we’d like, but I think it’ll be better than 30%+.

            • nycsportzfan

              great post

      • nycsportzfan

        His yr in general is. My point was only he kept grinding and its starting to show. His Avg is slowly creeping upwards and his OBP is starting to show as it seems almost every game lately he gets a hit and 2 bb’s and a run or 2. Who knows, maybe by seasons end, he’ll be have a even better overall line.. It looked like he was gonna be just terrible all yr. Shoot, I remember him hugging that mendoza line for quite a long time and now hes nearing the 240’s.

        • Preston

          Any player that has any chance of making it to the majors is going to continue to grind. His upside is huge. But putting the bat on the ball is the hardest and most important thing for a hitter to do. Even since the All-Star break when he’s hit .286/.396/.384 he’s struck out 25% of the time. He’s young enough to improve, and I think that he’ll fill out and provide more power to justify the Ks as he moves up too. But I’m not ready to put to much faith in him yet. I’ll just continue to follow with fingers crossed.

  • Go Win

    Almonte has been quite consistent all year. Every month he hit for an average above .260 and an OPS above .720. He has also mashed lefties to an OPS above .810 for the year. The only problem is he can not hit righties, but he looks like big league ready at least for at platoon role. Hope he gets some chances at least as a September call up when rosters expand.

    • Kevin Wrong

      Almonte however has been on this level a couple of times and been way overmatched. AAA numbers dont equate to what a player will do in the big show. Its hard to truly know too

      • Go Win

        Fair. The point is that in my POV he has done enough to deserve a closer look in the big leagues – then he might show he can put up the numbers at the MLB level or he might not.

  • bernbabybern

    We really can’t boot someone off the 40 for Refsnyder?

    • RetroRob

      No reason to at this point.

    • forensic

      If they didn’t do it three weeks ago before they made the Drew deal, there’s almost no chance they’ll do it now (and only a very slight chance that they’ll bother doing it even in September).

  • RetroRob

    What happened to Angel Aguilar? He hasn’t played in about a week.

  • PerfectlyCromulent

    What ever happened to the Korean kid who was 18 and eligible to start playing right away? I thought we’d see him somewhere by now.

  • Cool Yankees Dude

    I always love seeing the two GCL teams play each other.

  • Jake

    Jose Pirella could be an option in the future infield as well, very solid numbers.