Aug
04

RiverAveBlues.com Commenting Policy

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I’d like to take a moment to just remind you of RAB’s commenting policy located at http://riveraveblues.com/about/river-ave-blues-commenting-guidelines/.

We’re happy to continue with a no-registration policy for as long as possible. Abuse will not be tolerated and will lead to a far more strict system of registration and verification. We’ve felt this hasn’t been needed since a great portion of readers who contribute to the RAB comments section generally just want to discuss baseball, but we will make the change if necessary.

Thanks for understanding. We enjoy having you all part of our community and hope to see new features and possibly a new look to RAB in the future.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew) RIP Egon

    Rule 1 of RAB: Don’t talk about RAB

    Rule 2 of RAB: Don’t be a dick.

    Rule 3 of RAB: Seriously, don’t be a dick/Eddard.

    Rule 4 of RAB: Read above.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    Busting out the Jay Gordon gun this morning.

    Next warning comes directly from Zuckerberg.

    • Aaron Juez

      IETC. You know it’s serious when Jay comments.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        God I love that screenname.

        • Aaron Juez

          You should. I took it from one of your comments. It would be a shame if RAB switched to Facebook messaging. One of the great things about RAB is the creative usernames people come up with.

          • Niko

            Agreed, the phasing in and out of creative names is one of the big reasons I’ve kept reading the comments on RAB all these years. That, and the generally positive discussion.

            And the Stephen Drew fanaticism finally paying off :P

  • Dan G

    As a long time RAB visitor and occasional commenter, I would be very sad to see this great site ruined by a handful of knuckleheads.

    To any new visitors, please just be respectful and don’t write anything you wouldn’t be comfortable saying in front of kid. And if you’re the kind of person that doesn’t understand what I’m saying, then this site probably isn’t for you anyway.

    • ropeadope

      don’t write anything you wouldn’t be comfortable saying in front of kid

      kid Rock?

      Billy the kid?

      kid from kid & play?

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      By that criteria, Dan, a whole lot of us would be in trouble.

      Understand the rules. Understand the culture as well. A lot of arguments have started up on here recently stemming from regulars questionning arguments newbies make based on loose associations, anecdotals, etc.

      If you’re going to take a stand on something, and it’s not something that you have stats to back up, just say so. Don’t argue that your eyes are better than Fangraphs, or that your cousin the nurse knows more than Dr. James Andrews. That’s not something people are generally interested in around here.

      • Newbie-Wan Kenobi

        Let Mike set the standards.
        We don’t need JS pulling an Eddie Haskell like he never offends anyone on the site.
        I’m a newbie and I’ve searched your comments.
        Guilty as anyone.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          If JS/JJF/RT offends you, then, generally speaking, you are in the wrong.

    • ajra21

      I take there have been some issues recently that have sparked the various warnings.

  • http://espn.com Dela G

    I’ve been reading RAB for 7 years, and i can’t believe the LoHud people are trying to ruin the site. Makes no sense. I wouldn’t mind a registration based commenting system, as I have Facebook and don’t care.

    • bardos

      We from Lohud may be shaking up the equilibrium somewhat, until we learn the style, humour and ironies of RAB… but TRYING to ruin the site? Probably not.

      • gbyanks

        i have not been paying attention. whats going on with people from lohud and why is there a sudden flock of new commentators?

        • Dalek Jeter

          Due to some insane person collecting private information and virtually attacking other posters they moved to a facebook based commenting system where your facebook name and profile pic would appear with every comment you post thinking the lack of anonymity would stop said crazy person. Instead it drove them all here.

          • Dalek Jeter

            Them being LoHuddians, not crazy people. Though this is the internet, so I’m sure a few of them are sort of crazy.

            • Cool Lester Smooth

              Potato, potahto?

              (Just kidding, guys!)

      • mitch

        I think it’s only a few posters that are really making it a difficult transition. The best part about the RAB commenting community is that it’s usually a pretty level-headed, on-topic discussion. Most sports messageboards end up getting ruined by people who spew endless amounts of negativity toward a team they claim they like. It’s an internet phenomenon i do not understand.

        There was very little of that here, but it has certainly picked up in the last week.

        • waneditor

          +1

    • Rick

      While I would be opposed to the facebook policy (I don’t have facebook or any social media), I would completely understand. I have no problem using my real name. It’s the people that have a problem using their real identity that the facebook policy would be geared towards. It’s sad, but totally understandable if necessary.

      • Pete22

        Not every facebaook name is real. Its quite simple to set up dummy accounts even if it is against FB policy and you risk a lifetime ban (very low risk)

    • cr1

      They don’t think of it as trying to ruin this site, they think of it as making it like their old home – which to us is ruin.

      Not sure what we can do. One option is trying to help revive their old home – dropping in, commenting, driving up the traffic, generally doing cpr.

      That won’t help though if the main reason they are staying away is that they are embarrassed about their conduct over there and don’t want it linked to their real identities – as I suspect is the case for a number of posters.

      • http://espn.com Dela G

        Yeah that’s what made the ESPN comments section much less harsh over time, was the attachment of your name to the comments. I laugh now at some of the idiotic comments made these days on ESPN when people know their employers can read their comments

        • Pete22

          One of the great myths of the 21st century is that everyone with a facebook account, or every facebook account, has a real name attacked to it. Just because their is a first and last name does not mean either or both are real.

    • n0exit

      I don’t know of this is a troll but it sure as hell looks like one.

      • http://espn.com Dela G

        why would i be trolling?

        • n0exit

          I don’t know, but your comment seems unnecessarily inflammatory and designed to incite a reply. It attacks a whole group of people with a sweeping generalization, that in my book is a troll. If you have a suggestion or complaint theb fire away, no need to claim that anyone is actively plotting the demise of this blog.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            It may have been an ill-advised generalization, but that’s not trolling in and of itself.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      It’s far from everyone. I’d say 90% of the new commenters are people I’d love to have stay.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      I’ve been reading RAB for 7 years, and i can’t believe the LoHud people are trying to ruin the site.

      —————

      Well Chad mentioned days ago he has spoken to Lohud regulars on what they like or dislike. Those suggestions have been taken to his bosses and we’ll see if anymore changes are made. I understand this transition is a little rough for everyone but ppl have to remember despite the insanity that occurred over there the Lohud refugees dealt with it. They never invaded RAB despite how vile the blog became. If Lohud changes to a more favorable system and a strict moderator they would go back in a heart beat.

  • bardos

    Ah, ok. I am a refugee from Lohud and in the last thread I posted a comment that had absolutely nothing to do with Tanaka’s elbow. I was shamefully off-topic. Mea culpa. Thank goodness at the moment I am on-topic talking about the rules.

    • BigDavey88

      Ok, I’ve been on the side of welcoming new people to our website, but this is stupid and childish. If you come to someone else’s house you follow their rules even if you think they’re dumb. That’s it.

      Start following the rules. Or… leave. Not hard, right?

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        A bit unnecessary, though.

        The person apologized. We move on. We all mess up.

        • Kevin

          Couldnt you sense the sarcasm in his post?

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            I can read that one both ways, though.

            No biggie.

            • bardos

              Kevin… no sarcasm there. Yours is not a nice comment. sorry about that.

        • BigDavey88

          Yeah, I read that as straight sarcasm hence the response.

          Still, at the end of the day, all of this is about commenting on a blog – I was over it a week ago.

  • TampaYankee

    I would be ok with registering, I know that isn’t the preferred way to go though.

    I just ask if it comes to that, please don’t make it connect through Facebook. I don’t have one, and though I don’t comment daily, I do like to comment once in a while.

    • http://bassoprofundo1.blogspot.com ColoYank

      Too bad Mike has found it necessary to remind people of posting guidelines twice within – what is it, a week?

      I don’t comment very often, but still count RAB as my favorite Yankee blog. I’ve been coming here and enjoying the comradeship for eight years at least.

      I don’t post in Facebook and don’t have a profile over there, but I’m not opposed to using my real name.

      • I’m One

        Too bad, but not too surprising. There’s been a tremendous influx of new posters that were used to doing things in a particular manner at their old prefered site. I’m sure most are willing to learn how we do things here and comply. I don’t think most of this is intentional.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I like that he’s doing so, though, and I’d even go as far as to suggest that maybe the guidelines are worth reviewing a bit. Perhaps one of things that could be done would be to add some new stuff.

        I don’t mind the hello/goodbyes. In the grand scheme of things, civility is a silly thing to complain about. Having a 10-comment thread solely based on them, though, feels a bit unnecessary. Saying it within a context of a reply seems like reasonable middle ground.

        Outright refusal to nest your comments is another one. Mistakes happen, but there are some comments which are just an obvious attempt to do things as they were done on the other site. I wish there was zero tolerance around that.

        Both noexit and forensic brought up great ideas in past days as to middle ground as to some folks wanting to be more stream-of-conscience. The off-topic thread is woefully underutilized and could be used for that. I also liked the idea of having a day-long open thread.

        • n0exit

          At the risk of blowing my own trumpet, the reason I suggested a day long open thread for two reasons. One: I didn’t even know there was an off topic area and two: an area that RAB doesn’t catch is the daily baseball news and happenings that were discussed on lohud. I think that sort of thing would be out of place in the off topic but better suited to the open thread. Also all the hellos that some people dislike could be contained within the open thread.

          • ropeadope

            I wish I could blow my own trumpet. I tried once, and popped a vertebrae.

  • Eseddardmil Rodgers

    If RAB sets up a facebook commenting system you have my word I will create my own blog where we can discuss freely the ideas of baseball theory and sabermetrics without facebook looking into our souls. We are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights and I won’t let them take those away from us. A website derives its power from the consent of the governed and when that consent is taken away you are left with the wasteland known as lohud.

    • Rick

      I’m pretty sure you don’t have any inalienable rights that will be taken away from you based upon the commenting policy of a website. If you feel that strongly that you do, then there is a very simple solution: don’t come to the website. Honestly though, great attempt to sound intelligent.

    • Jay Gordon

      go for it!

    • jsbrendog

      nah nah nah nah
      hey hey hey
      good bye

    • Daniel

      Hahahahaha. Oh man, classic eddard. I love this guy. You’re not going anywhere you special guy you.

  • drock

    hi everyone 1st time poster long time viewer of rab…… to those who are wondering im not from lohud…..go yankees!!

  • BIG AL

    I came over from LoHud, and have been quite pleased with how civil folks here appear to be, with what I’ve read the past few days, so I don’t understand the comment that those of us coming from LoHud : “are trying to ruin the site”.

    I’ll continue being polite and civil, but please don’t lump an entire group by what a few might have posted.

    • I’m One

      I think some folks are just being a little strong in their wording. I don’t think anyone is trying to “ruin” this site. There’s just concern that the flavor of this site will be changed, which we, who have been here for a while, may not be comfortable with. In particular, posters need to remember this is Mike’s site and he will run it as he sees fit whether we like it or not (personally, I like the way this site is run, which is why I’m here).

  • Jedua

    I read RAB a lot but I don’t comment that much . It’s a great site with a lot of fun people

    Just don’t poke the eddard

    • I’m One

      Every once in a while, we do need to poke the eddard, just to keep him on his game. :-)

      • Daniel

        Sometimes he deserves to be pet, not poked as well. He;s not a bad guy.

  • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Dr. Martin van Nostrand

    possibly a new look to RAB in the future.

    NO!

    While I like this format just fine and got used to it a long time ago, I’ve been around RAB long enough to vividly recall the format, as it were, when I first started coming around. I liked that format too and was sad to see it go. This format is a more-than-adequate replacement. Lets not make another trip down that rabbit hole.

  • Rahul

    Question for the LoHud refugees, I might have missed something but is there a reason that you are now refugees?

    • Rick

      LoHud implemented facebook commenting and the “refugees” are not happy about it.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Castro.

      • I’m One

        No, that’s why you’re here.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          So, so true.

      • W.B. Mason Williams

        Comment of the day

    • Pete22

      Lohud made it quite clear we were not wanted, thats the only reason to set up a FB only commenting system. Every site that does the same experiences a drop in comments.

      It would be easy for many to set up a dummy FB account, but why bother. Most of us have posted at RAB before, perhaps under different names. Not a lot of difference between the 2 in terms of quality of posters. Both have their cliques, some good posters, and various trolls (hater and polyannas). IF RAB ever went to a FB only policy, I am sure most of the ex-Lohuders would move back to Lohud, or just move on, and some of the RAB commenters would leave as well.

      However, comments generate little revenue, so I doubt anyone cares.

  • n0exit

    I thought things were generally getting back to normal since after the deadline. Did i miss something?

  • BIG AL

    LoHud went to the Facebook account needed to post, and I along with several others do not have, and do not want anything to do with social media accounts.

    I can only speak for myself in this regard, but, looking at the number of comments that are now being posted on LoHud, they must agree they ruined a great Yankees blog.

    Did we have some bad apples on LoHud, Yes we did, but the vast majority of folks were very good posters, and passionate Yankees fans.

    • Tom K

      I don’t think this is just geared towards those from LoHud (though obviously that is where a lot of people are coming from). Bottom line is to stay on topic. I used to read the LoHud game threads, and over time they became unreadable….had to sift through 15 insufferable posts just to get to a few insightful ones. Eventually, I just stopped reading them. Nobody wants this blog to become like that.

      Nobody says you have to type positive Yankees thoughts all the time – that wouldn’t be fun either if everything was rainbows and unicorns. But being on topic I think is something most adults and teenagers should be able to do without much effort.

      • waneditor

        +1

      • bardos

        Actually being a Luddite, I mean Lohudite, being forced to get into my small boat and row to RAB has been quite enlightening. I have actually gotten to know this site for the first time and “meet” loads of new people. I think that’s great.

        By the way, I will also occasionally continue to post on LoHud

  • Farewell Mo

    1st thing the Lohud people can do is stop with the “good mornings” and other greetings and little personal messages to each other. It makes the thread exceedingly unwieldy and somewhat difficult to follow IMO.

    Hopefully after the first few days this will calm down.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Seriously this. I know you guys are used to a certain level of familiarity, with the hellos and the personal greetings and the sign offs, but I’m sorry that’s just not how we do things. I can see how if you’re used to it, the concept of not doing so may seem downright rude, but Farewell Mo is right: it’s annoying for anybody you’re not speaking directly to, posts that include hellos to people are almost strictly that and never on topic, and it makes threads “exceedingly unwieldy and somewhat difficult to follow.” A perfect example is the injury update thread that was posted a day or two after the beginning of the LoHud migration. The thread finished with something like 500 posts. I thought “it’s fantastic that there is so much discussion about the possibilities of Tanaka coming back.” It turns out 1/3rd of that thread was people saying high to each other, 1/2 of it was bullshit trade rumors that had nothing to do with injured players, and then the remaining like 12% was actual on topic discussion.

      • n0exit

        Yes but this has gotten much better lately hasn’t it? Before the trade deadline things were crazy but now the numbers are back to pretty much what they used to be and most of the comments are pretty on point. I personally don’t mind the hellos too much , I just scroll right past them.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Overall, yeah, it’s gotten better, but this is a thread basically dedicated to airing our grievances about people not following the guidelines and that/this is mine.

    • cr1

      This.

      Email each other about your meals, pets, health, travels and families. Drop the greetimgs and farewells every time you leave the keyboard. It will cut down on the irrelevancies we have to wade through to get back to our actual interests – the Yankees and baseball.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Or use the off topic thread! I offered that as an option the morning of the migration. It’s right there at the top of the page, you can still discuss the Yankees…but on top of it you can talk about whatever you want! No topic restrictions, no people getting upset about farewells and greetings, nothing…LoHudders (and RABbites) can post there freely.

        • The Big City of Dreams

          Be careful for obvious reasons.

    • The Billy Martin Van Buren Boys

      +1

    • Mr. Roth

      This. Use either the off-topic thread, email, instant messanger, facebook, ICQ, IRC, or Skype for that stuff, not a post on a Yankee blog.

    • Irreverent DIscourse

      Scrolling down is so hard!

  • http://thesportsquotient.com Zelduarvis Wheelunez

    You can always go to the Disqus system. It has optional Facebook connectivity, otherwise people can simply make a Disqus account. It’s the one they use on MLBTR.

    • Rick

      I’m a disqus fan. Would not be opposed to that. Though if you think there are a lot of comments now that get off topic, disqus will only exacerbate that. I feel like the replies are much easier with disqus, however.

      • n0exit

        Right but you can always down vote with disqus so off topic or abusive comments tend to disappear.

      • Tom K

        Disqus is a good system. Personally, I don’t even mind Facebook as nothing I type in a comments section is anything I wouldn’t say if I was sitting there watching the game (or whatever) with the people I am conversating with.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I actually would be against Disqus for selfish reasons. In the non-profit sector, our PC’s aren’t exactly state-of-the-art, and older versions of browsers really have trouble with Disqus at times.

      If this were my site, and it’s not, fluid and visible guidlines, along with 24/7 moderation, would be a first step.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      Fuck Disqus!

  • http://Riveraveblues Austinmac

    As a Lohud refugee, I will say their are many good baseball people coming over. It seems a it odd that saying good morning is a problem.

    I have been a regular RAB reader and occasional poster for years. I have seen many exchanges far worse than greetings. Plenty of name calling has gone on,

    We will respect your rules and hope to get to exchange many baseball ideas over the upcoming days ahead.

    • jsbrendog

      yeah that stuff always happens but it is amplified when the overall number of people increases. when two people are wah wah youre a turd – ing back and forth you can just scroll down but the more people read and comment the more it happens and the harder it becomes to tune out.

      no one follows the rules to a T, it’s a balance. what that balance is i couldn’t tell you but it is one. so agree with me or i’ll post stupid stuff about you. (no, i won’t. just go with it…)

    • Farewell Mo

      Saying “good morning” is fine if it’s followed by an on topic comment otherwise it’s just a waste of space that becomes tedious to read for everyone else.

  • jsbrendog

    damn kids, get off my lawn!!

    Honestly, I’m surprised it has lasted this long in its current incarnation.

    just shows that people can regulate it and self police it…up to a point.

  • http://thewebsitemarketingagency.com Geno

    I recommend a 2-tiered “minors”, “majors” system. People new to RAB have to start out on the minor league site. They’d stay until they prove themselves to be normal human beings and can then get called up to the big show!

    • fat jeter

      Let’s just hope Yankee management has nothing to do with this promotion system. The “majors” discussion board would just be cast-offs from other sites and a bunch of old posters. :D

      • n0exit

        I’m trying to imagine the Brian Roberts of the major league site, many spelling errors and bad jokes maybe?

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          Prior concerns were related to his ability to stay healthy enough to comment frequently. Turns out the frequency was there, but the quality was poor.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        BREAKING NEWS: MTU and Pat M to see Dr. James Andrews on Tuesday.

        • ropeadope

          Are they seeking the Bartolo Colon surgery in an attempt to bolster the Yankees pitching depth in 2016 and beyond? I think they need to go to Mexico or South America for that procedure.

  • BIG AL

    Just reading the last few posts by the RAB reulars, I must say, you’re the ones posting off subject, concerning baseball and the Yankees, not the new folks from LoHud.

    Are you all so cold, that saying “good morning” upsets you, really?

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Doesn’t upset everyone. I thought it was kinda cool and friendly.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      That’s not what everyone is saying on here.

    • mitch

      It’s not upsetting. It’s just weird and more importantly makes it more difficult to navigate through the thread.

      How about we just assume everybody’s first post of the day comes with an implied “Good Morning, how are you?” and their last post with an implied “Good night, sweet dreams, i love you..”?

  • Pkyankfan69

    Holy drama… I didn’t see what the big deal was with going to FB posting on Lohud, I still post there some, the problem is there is no one to talk to there anymore… That being said, I don’t see what the big deal is with a new group of people posting on RAB? Have the Lohud folks really dismissed the rules above? I mean I see some off topic posts (that’s going to be my toughest rule to follow) and other minor violations but how can that not be expected? It’s going to take some time to assimilate, relax and enjoy the ride.

    • http://thewebsitemarketingagency.com Geno

      I don’t think that a new group posting is the issue. The reason you’re all here is (IMO) the generally higher level of discourse on this site. But it’s like that for a reason, and unless everyone gets on board tut sweet, it will crumble under the weight of untimely comments and general lack of discipline.

      I guess it’s a nice neighborhood, and we’d like to keep it that way.

  • Y’s Guy

    It has seemed to me that the meshing of the two groups has been really really good. A couple of tough spots, but all-in-all it has been a great discussion, and the people who have been here have been in the main very welcoming.

    I dont know what the problem is that led to this latest warning but I was unaware there was a problem. The volume of posts leads to ‘topic drift’ but when a post about a trade of minor players is up for 4 hours, are the posters supposed to just not post? I dont see how that improves the blog at all.

    Since this post is about the posting guidlines, and others have commented on the guidelines, I hope I’m allowed to add my opinion about their application without being out of bounds.

    It seems to me that people want to come here and chat about Yankees baseball, that’s a good thing, why should that be a problem?

    I felt like everything was going well, but I guess not…

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I’d say 90% of it is going just fine. Most of this doesn’t pertain to most of our new friends.

      Hell, you took my ribbing of you as to eddard and coffee well.

      • I’m One

        Did it stay at coffee? I was going to suggest that it be raised to drinks at vicki’s bar, but that thought came a bit too late. :-)

  • ropeadope

    Aside from the threads being somewhat more crowded, I’ve noticed no change in the commentary since the arrival of our LoHud friends. In my view (and I understand it may not be everyone’s view) we had one problem poster before the LoHud influx, and we still have one problem poster. He (she, it) uses dozens of names, but always manages to include the letters eddard in their identity. The LoHud invasion has been flawless.

    • n0exit

      I agree, after the initial deluge it has been pretty much back to business as usual. Unless we missed something I don’t really know what the big deal is. Also eddard is just a mild irritant I don’t feel its major issue IMO.

  • Exiledintampa

    I don’t blame RAB for being concerned. Two of the worst offenders from lohud were here last night. They were trolling here just like they did on lohud. one will offer a guess the Yankees win total in order to troll for info. The other attacks you, your family and friends. That’s why we won’t do facebook. Even if you’re not someone’s facebook friend they can still see info. The second person has mad computer skills. He posted Chad Jennings personal info. address personal phone number, family member names.

    I’d rather we were all tossed out than inflick this on RAB. sorry.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Wow, that’s insane.

      • Exiledintampa

        That’s just the tip of the iceburg. The second person uses multipules to post pictures of family members claiming one posters daughter was a prostitute on an internet site. He has even shown up here using the names of lohud posters he has attacked in the past.

        • http://thewebsitemarketingagency.com Geno

          Enlighten us. Who is this person?

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          This must happen at a very strange hour of night. I’ve seen none of it. Not doubting it, though.

          • Exiledintampa

            Jorge you were conversing with one last night. They can come off as civil yankee fans but, that’s not their end game.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              I get that.

              I definitely know my boundaries, though. Like steve said to me the other day, not my first time in this rodeo.

        • Chase Chasely

          I was on Lohud for many years before I started posting here to get away from this element Exiled is talking about. I was hacked by this internet lunatic. They called my extended family and exposed my personal info on the Lohud site. I feel so bad for Mike that these troublemakers drifted here. What Exiled said is spot on. I’ve said this a bunch of times and I apologize for repeating, but please do not share any personal info with the female one. It’s a catfish thing. The one who offers to run contests with prizes is not what IT pretends to be. And yes, some lonely middle aged men from Lohud will defend “her”. Don’t believe them. They’ve been catfished and think they’re being gallant by defending “her”. Please just be safe with your info. If they figure out who you are they’ll call your jobs and cause you problems.

          • mitch

            it would be amazing if this ended up on the mtv catfish show

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              WHY IS NEV AT MY DOOR NOW?!?!?!

          • n0exit

            Yes, this person was banned until yesterday then suddenly, unbanned.

        • Luisergi

          If this is true, you have to give the name, or be more specific. Then RAB has to ban them if at all possible.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Has someone made Mike aware of what happened over there? I don’t think kicking everyone out in order to get rid of a couple of serious concerns would be necessary.

      I will self-disclose a bit on here, but there’s a line I have in my head at all times as to what I’ll disclose.

      I’d never do this under an actual, real FB account. No way.

      • Y’s Guy

        Yes, Mike has been informed.

      • Newbie-Wan Kenobi

        Then maybe Mike should just have you comment via Facebook!

    • n0exit

      Which post? Is this in the Tanaka of phelps post?

    • The Big City of Dreams

      I’d rather we were all tossed out than inflick this on RAB. sorry.

      —————

      Or just alert the authorities. I’m sure there are members on this site that have family and friends in law enforcement.

  • Dalek Jeter

    I’ll point out again for the LoHuddians who feel shackled by RAB poster’s dislikes for greetings and RAB’s overlords want/need to keep comments on topic: at the top of the page in the masthead there is a tab labeled “off topic” this is literally a never ending open thread where you can sign in and say hi to everybody and talk about literally anything you want (politics and religion aside is a safe bet) and nobody will care.

    • Y’s Guy

      2 posts in 4 days on the off topic blog….obviously that is not going to work.

      also, when someone posted an ‘off topic’ baseball item, they were derided. the big ‘problem'(if there actually is a problem) is baseball posts not directly related to the topic of the post. where are they supposed to go?

      • The Big City of Dreams

        The off topic thread. I’ve posted on both sites over the yrs. When RAB is discussing a topic I care nothing about I don’t post in it.

      • Deep Thoughts

        Sorry! Failed and insensitive attempt at humor. Please do post baseball-related comments or whatever. My comment was asinine.

      • BigDavey88

        Usually they went in the older related posts. Or people wait until the open thread. That’s what I’ve gathered over time.

        I know it sucks to have to go back and check but it’s worked in the four years I’ve been reading.

  • Lohud Trish

    A lot of us from Lohud find the content and commentary to be more well-informed and well-reasoned than what is generally found here.

    In addition, I’ve encountered significantly less misogynistic comments over there, as well as an environment that breeds a lot less condescension and haughtiness. While our preference would be to remain there, the new Fbook policy has turned a lot of us off.

    So I think the hope is that with enough of us over here, we can help this environment evolve to a more inclusive and well-informed forum.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I am sorry that you feel this is a misogynistic environment. I’m not going to say you’re outright wrong for feeling that, because a lot of times it can be right in front of a man’s face and they won’t see it because they’re programmed by society to not.

      I will, however, say that we do have a handful of female posters on her (woefully few, but that’s neither here nor there) and they are very intelligent women who to my knowledge have never complained about misogyny on this board. Hell, one poster called a female poster a bitch out of frustration once and was immediately called on it by at least 3 people for being an asshole.

      With that said, I do find it just a big ironic that you’ve been here for maybe a week and yet you in the same post call us condescending and haughty while saying that LoHud and it’s posters are more well informed and well-reasoned and express your hope to make this blog as such in your eyes.

      • BKamm

        That’s just what she does. She hasn’t even got warmed up yet.

        • Exiledintampa

          If could REC this comment I would.He/she’s already here under the third variation of the same female name.

          • Farewell Mo

            Said person claims to have gone to a friend’s house last night to comment since “her” IP address was supposedly blocked.

            Seems like an awful lot of trouble for someone to go through just to post.

            • BKamm

              Oy yeah. lohud Trish is the same person.

      • Chase Chasely

        Dalek,

        You’re talking to troll/hacker here. Any poster with that name or a variation of it is the one who was banned from Lohud. Just be careful when dealing with this person. Sadly, I speak from experience.

    • BKamm

      That’s mighty white of you.

  • Mike HC

    I think RAB is too great of a site to give up on a successful integration of the Lohud people in so short a time. I thought it was starting to cool down a little, and many of the new commenters were slowly starting to get in the groove of staying on topic and using the reply button. Every thread also didn’t have 300+ comments like during the trade deadline, and was settling more in the mid 100’s or lower range (although this thread might blow up, ha)

    Maybe hitting the site with a nuke (redesign/registering) will be necessary at some point if things really do never settle down, but this great website set up and commenting style deserves more time to see if it can survive.

    If not, pull the plug. Nothing lasts forever.

  • mustang

    All for a more strict system of registration and verification even before the Lohud migration the site has been taking a hit as far as quality.

    • mustang

      I always wonder why RAB didn’t come up with a more restrictive section a prime section for those of us who like a lot less of the eddard type bullshit. I would even pay a few bucks for the service.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    The only difference I’ve noticed lately is an increase in traffic. As long as I have been here, there have always been some personal attacks, heated arguments, etc. But nothing outrageous, IMHO. Some blogs are real sewers. As far as scrolling past the OT stuff, it’s a pain, but I haven’t found it unmanageable. One option would be to give all registered members the ‘plonk’ option, which would block undesired posts. Anyway, I now know the guys I prefer not to read, and those who know a hell of a lot more about baseball than I do, whose stuff I do read. I have noticed a drop off in sabermetric analysis here. Maybe because the Yanks aren’t doing well, and interest has waned.

  • The Other Mister D

    So I guess this would not be the place for me to explain how Obamaball is structured to take wins away from the AL East and redistribute them to the National League?

    • massjake

      Now that’s funny!

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    Amen.

    Welcome to the new posters.

    This is a great family here on RAB and you won’t be disappointed. Keep all analysis on topic, and use advanced SABRE-metric stats to support all arguments.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Or just be like me, admit you struggle with anything that wasn’t on the back of a 1985 Topps baseball card, try anyway, and maybe you learn something new along the way.

      • mustang

        SOOOOO

        THIS!!!!!!

        Still can’t understand leverage graph, but I like playing with the lines.

      • Scott

        I still have some gum from a 1985 Topps card. It is just as hard as the day it came from the pack in 1985.

  • Kevin

    Wow…. I have been a long time reader of RAB and while i only post from time to time- I have always enjoyed reading them.

    I just read the comments on a few posts… it is brutal! Gotta stay on topic- nobody cares about your aunt “Linda” or what your rec league baseball team is doing.

    RAB is for hard core yankee fans to talk about baseball- leave the personal BS at home.

    Yikes- you were right about LO HUD.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      That’s because you’ve never seen their aunt Linda. Hubba hubba.

      • ropeadope
        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          When was that picture taken, 1987?

          • ropeadope

            I’m a poor judge of age, but she was born in 1959. So if she looks 28 in the photo, then 1987 would be correct. If she doesn’t look 28, adjust accordingly.

      • BKamm

        I sent Mike an email on Pollyanna yesterday but it looks like the opposite happened. She is live and well here.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          It’s not difficult to overcome a ban on here. Hate to say it.

          Perhaps commenters on here want to make sure that they’re not giving out info they shouldn’t be giving out to complete strangers on the internet either.

          “Guess the win total” contests on here aren’t going to attract more interest, I hate to say it.

          • gilmac

            This person, Trish or Pollyanna, claims to be an attorney, will occasionally rant and rave about morals, based on her Catholic faith of course, and claims to live in Providence. These are the traits I noticed about her when I posted at Lohud earlier this year.
            Pretty much left due to her craziness. I did notice a lot of the males defended her. Not many females.
            I already think that Vicky here at RAB is wise to her.
            Another thing she does is the wins prediction/candy contest.

  • MTU

    I don’t any former LoHud people wish to intentionally damage your site.

    What would be the motivation ?

    We came here as refugees seeking a new land when ours was destroyed.

    As such we should be respectful of the those who came before us.

    I know I want to be.

    So in the unlikely case I have done anything against the rules or which inadvertently offends I offer my humblest apology.

    We new ones are just learning the ropes.

    I will stop with the greetings (which I consider polite), and mention of comings and goings ( since few would be interested anyway).

    No back to your regular programming.

    • Exiledintampa

      mtu. he was here last night bragging about how lohud deserved to be brought down. telling trish how terrific she is. Don’t be so sure it can’t happen again. he had the gall to post under his original lohud name.

  • Hankflorida

    I have been a Yankee fan since 1937 and came to the Lohud blog in order to protest the route that the Yankees were taking last year. I was hoping that if there are enough voices in the wilderness, the management would at least listen. I agree that we must stay on topic and praise when praise is due and dissent when agreement is not there because that is what being a fan is all about. I will never disrespect anyone who disagree with me but agree to disagree.

  • blake

    I just want to talk baseball and occasionally other things in the designated smoking areas!

    Honestly I have read here for a long time in addition to previously posting at Lohud…..and I’ve posted on and off here over the years as well…….

    I think the biggest issue is the jump in the number of comments on each thread and honestly the nested comments does make that difficult to follow……not trying to tell anyone to change anything just saying it’s basically a fact ……it works with 50 or 60 comments or even up to a couple hundred but when you get 500+ then it’s extremely difficult to tell what’s going on……now the hi’s and bye’a etc contribute to those numbers I understand……but IMO it seems like that is a minimal part of it and the majority is real baseball talk……just a lot more of it because more people are reading and commenting. Game threads on just about any site are a mess…..hardly any of the old regulars at lohud posted much during games

    I’ve always enjoyed the content here…..Mike and co. do a great job. Hopefully this can evolve to a merger of two good things with the bad drowned out.

    As always…..go Yanks

    • Y’s Guy

      I agree the reply box system is not working well at this volume. It might be helpful if all the new replies to a subject posted at the bottom of the box around that subject, as it is now, even within the box you have to scroll up and down and check the time stamp to understand it, and that’s AFTER you have to scroll all over to find the box you were commenting in.

  • Farewell Mo

    At least the one whose name we shall not speak has not shown up in these parts since the fall of LoHud. If that happens, Mike really needs to take definitive action.

    • Exiledintampa

      He was here last night using his original name then using variations of jap’s name.

      • Yankee Fan 1

        Mrs. Pollyanna is here, so you know her sidekick is lurking as well

        • Exiledintampa

          He was telling her how great she is last night.She already offered the Ritters candy bars. Step one has already happened.

          • mitch

            what’s the deal with the candy? The story gets weirder as more facts come out. This person has morphed from a common internet troll to a catfish. Now it seems to be heading toward an online pedophilia ring

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              I love candy.

            • The Big City of Dreams

              Now it seems to be heading toward an online pedophilia ring

              ———

              Which is why I mentioned earlier If the same trouble occurs on RAB contact the authorities.

      • Farewell Mo

        I was talking about Ted N.

        I didn’t see him name, thank the lord.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    I did actually register for an account some time ago, but it’s not served a purpose yet.

    • Exiledintampa

      I can see your name and where you live by clicking on your name. This is how it starts with them. Don’t leave links to twitter,your e-mail, facebook or anywhere you can be tracked from.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I’ve never used a real email address here. Ever. Or linked to anything. That’s just silly.

        I have friends on here who I’ve met in real life. Trust me, there was vetting involved, as there always is.

        • mitch

          same here. I’d have no problem registering under my actual email, google acount, etc, but i definitely would not be in favor of having that information out there for all to see

          • Pete22

            Unfortunately by doing so you are, since the dude that has Lohuders so paranoid is very tech savy. He is here now posting under his banned name at Lohud, having followed the crowd over.

            I would be in favor of a Word Press registration system, but use an assumed name and dummy email account. If you use face book to comment, use a dummy account, but you risk being banned by facebook (include real account) so dont advertise it

  • Lehman College Rocks !!

    we at Lehman feel that calling people stupid or moron is not nice and it should be banned,
    attacking people to make yourself feel like a superior person should not have a place here.

    let there be peace and tranquility among us

  • BKamm

    I just saw this posted by gilmac. Good info on Polly or whatever her name is. Treat her like a plague.

    This person, Trish or Pollyanna, claims to be an attorney, will occasionally rant and rave about morals, based on her Catholic faith of course, and claims to live in Providence. These are the traits I noticed about her when I posted at Lohud earlier this year.
    Pretty much left due to her craziness. I did notice a lot of the males defended her. Not many females.
    I already think that Vicky here at RAB is wise to her.
    Another thing she does is the wins prediction/candy contest

    • HansDavenport

      Oh my. At least this is a commenting policy thread. Okay I predict she will be here sometime today during an open thread to rant about character assassination.
      On to the Ellsbury/Lester thread!

    • DonnaL

      I’ve been a lurker on both RAB and LoHud, on a near-daily basis, since 2009 — I don’t think I’ve posted on either in years — but as an attorney myself, I never believed that Trish was one. Hard to explain, but she doesn’t write like one. I always thought that maybe she was a paralegal. And yes, she could be way too strident about the immorality of steroids, etc. (specifically with respect to ARod). On the other hand, I found her positive, never-give-up attitude somewhat refreshing in the sea of negativity that was usually the atmosphere (love those mixed metaphors!) during LoHud game threads if the team fell behind by even one or two runs.

      I know there are people here who doubt that Trish is actually female, but it never occurred to me that that was the case. I do know that she acknowledged being friends with the loathsome [he who shall not be named], and I never understood why she refused to disavow him given his repeated harassment of other members. Is she really dangerous? I have no idea, but I certainly wouldn’t risk giving her any personal information.

      As far as misogyny is concerned, I always thought that both misogyny and homophobia were more of a problem at LoHud than at RAB. In both places, though, I didn’t think it was the regular commenters who were primarily responsible; it was drive-by trolls who engaged in it. So it doesn’t concern me that much.

  • The Billy Martin Van Buren Boys

    FWIW, since the thread evolved to this point (and if RAB goes over it to determine commenter mindset), I am pretty neutral to RAB’s commenting system. I like being able to just POST, and not have to take time signing in to a system (Facebook, Disqus, etc), or writing a long comment thinking I’m signed in only to do it all over again when it turns out I wasn’t signed in in the first place. My only issue is a narcissistic one: when I comment, I like to know if/when someone replies, and there are times here when the thread gets so loaded (trade deadline for example) that when I come back throughout the day to check, it takes forever to find my original comment.

    That being said, love the site and love the dialogue.

  • mustang

    O: S

    The target is now obvious and lets get back to baseball.

  • MG

    It certainly didn’t take long for the LoHud crap to transfer over here and that is a shame.

    I almost got physically ill last night reading the game thread and the infiltration of the same bullshit about Sox players and the team (the Sox may be the Yankees rival but calling them stupid names doesn’t accomplish anything whatsoever).

    I posted on LoHud for about 5 years and had pretty much given up because it had ceased to be a blog about baseball in favor of character assassination and so many posters wanting to play amateur GM.

    I like to talk baseball, about the game on the field, I really don’t give a crap about luxury taxes and a variety of other topics.

    I don’t think any baseball executive or physician who has a different opinion than me is an idiot either.

    I try really hard not to repeat myself as well, all is does is stifle conversation.

    I also have no need for validation of what I see, there is no need on a blog to claim you have said something for the past 3 months, 3 years, or 3 decades. Anyone who read a blog regularly knows your opinion without having to call attention to it.

    RAB seems like a really good place to talk baseball without all (well, at least most) of the bullshit, I hope this LoHud invasion becomes an enhancement (there are some really good posters who have migrated over) instead of just bringing it down to the level of endless repetition of the same opinions.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I have a feeling that we’re all going to close rank around this rather quickly.

      • MG

        I hope so, there are a bunch of good posters (both the RAB regulars and LoHud immigrants) and it can be lots of fun getting insights and ideas from others.

        • Exiledintampa

          If we’re still in Yankee Nation, we’re migrants not immigrants. Right?

      • Exiledintampa

        Jorge people just could not live by old tried and true methods. Ignore them long enough they will go away. But folks think they can talk to them when they’re being civil and it just encouraged it. Trish can feel good to have around and she’s excited about the Yankees. That’s my team. I want to get excited and share my feeling about them.I like that trish. but it can turn in an instant.this so called educated lawyer can dominate the site posting constantly. then sound like a hood rat attacking with vulgar venom.but the sidekick is one very sick individual. I refrained from talking about this out of fear. as have many other lohud posters. imagine being afraid to speak on an anonymus blog out of fear of retribution from another poster.

        • MG

          why would you be afraid of saying anything? She knows absolutely nothing about baseball, all she has are pompoms and a need to call attention to herself.

          As for the other idiot, who cares?

          • Exiledintampa

            about baseball. I watched too many guys I liked be driven away by personal attacks. Calling randy’s mother at all hours of the night. nick in sf had his family attacked. that’s what caused the fear. and don’t tell me “then don’ share personal info.” i follow a guy on twitter, it shows in his followers. sooner or later you forget to close a back door somewhere. last tuesday i post on lohud using a spare FB account randy likes my comment. even though randy and i are not FB friends, i click on about on his FB and i see his cell phone number.

          • HansDavenport

            For me its just that she’s a pain in the rear to have on a thread because she knows nothing about baseball, she slurs the opponents, and pompoms have always annoyed me.

            That’s not commenting on a game.

            • Exiledintampa

              I agree. that’s most of it.That’s just annoying. But when the gloves are allowed to come off, like they were there,real crimes were committed in her honor by that psycho.I can ignor only so much of the rest and it becomes toxic.i don’t want to live through that ever again. I’m older.not computer savey. I don’t want to have to think am i bullett proof from being attacked?

              • The Big City of Dreams

                like they were there,real crimes were committed in her honor by that psycho.

                —————-

                Then time to alert the proper authorities.

        • HansDavenport

          Truly, ignoring her helps and is certainly a good idea. I don’t think everyone is capable of that.
          She has always reminded me of Annie Wilkes in the sociopathic way she has about her.

    • mustang

      Hi, MG

      Welcome to RAB I been here since 2008 and even with my many complaints this is still the best site for Yankees information.

      Enjoy the site.

  • trish

    Lohud Trish says:
    August 4, 2014 at 11:22 am

    ______________________________

    Just to set the record straight – I did not post that tripe. Apparently some disgruntled lohudder is out to do anything he or she can to make trouble for me. I guess it’s easy to throw out a screen name here and have people think it’s someone else.

    I am an attorney and I know a lot about baseball. But the morose and complaining fans generally don’t like my views, and their small-minded rejoinder is that I don’t know anything about baseball.

    Karma is a bitch. I know nothing bad is coming my way because I don’t lie or harm people.

    • Exiledintampa

      If this is someone else posting as Trish under more than one name, then you are amazing, dude. You have her anger, phrases, cadence, manorisms and such down pat. You’re almost too good. Or, all of you are Trish.

    • UnKnown

      News Flash Dummy. Karma has already came your way because people are on to you and hate your guts.

      Actually that’s not karma at all that’s just you being a piece of shit.

  • trish

    No Exiled, I’ve only posted under my own name, or Polly when I couldn’t. Never as “Lohud Trish”. (What possible sense would it make for me to come on and totally defame this forum and its posters?)

    If my intent was to help someone else by providing personal information, all of the candy winners would have had problems. Not one has. That should say it all. When I contacted you it was with pure and good intent. It’s too bad that others have been able to convince people that I am complicit in anything less than honorable.