Aug
16

Sherman: Yankees viewed as “major players” for Rusney Castillo

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Via Joel Sherman: The Yankees are viewed as “major players” for Cuban free agent Rusney Castillo. They are said to like him more as a second baseman while most teams view him as an outfielder. The 27-year-old Castillo is finished with private workouts and is currently sorting through contract offers. He could sign as soon as next week.

According to Sherman, teams have a lot of urgency to get Castillo signed quickly for a few reasons. One, needs a work visa and they want to start that process as soon as possible. Two, he has to be in the organization by August 31st to be postseason eligible. Three, there is a little more than two weeks left in the minor league season and teams want Castillo to get in as many games as possible before considering him for a September call-up. The Yankees should be focused on 2015 at this point, so if they’re going to sign Castillo, the sooner they get him into the organization the better.

  • Austinmac

    Seems far to late to have him play this year, but, to say the least, the team could use some offense in 2015. Of course, I don’t know how good he is. I’m not sure if it is him or the past-Cuban success that brings the interest.

    • John Miciotta

      The cost of replacing Cano just keeps growing. Castillo may indeed be an excellent player but some reports indicate that his skills as a hitter replicate Gardner’s. Cashman has already done that with Elsbury. For all their reluctance to give Cano the extra 3 years that move is looking more and more penny wise and pound foolish.

      • Gregory Eckes

        Does the name Alex Rodriguez mean anything to you?

      • YakaTanaka

        Replicating a good hitter is not a bad thing… This narrative has got to end.

      • trr

        Tell us again in a few years

    • YakaTanaka

      I think it’s fair to say it is him that is generating the interest. Plenty of high profile Cuban players leave and don’t generate much MLB interest (Miranda, Mustelier, Garcia, Despaignes, all the guys who sign in Japan…). That doesn’t mean he will be a good MLB player, of course.

    • bardos

      I think he’s looked at a possible Derek Jeter replacement.

  • blake

    Can he be in Tampa by today?

    • TB

      He couldn’t do any worse blake than Prado or Drew lol

    • dickylarue

      It all begins with Rusney, blake. He will lead us.

  • TB

    Well obviously I don’t know that much about him but at least he would be cheap for the first 2 years of his contract while we wait for Teix’s awful contract to come to an end

  • blake

    This is where you’re evaluation has to be right…..it’s a big risk if you’re wrong but a big reward if you’re right about a guy like this.

    Obviously the yanks can afford to take gambles…..but if the budget is gonna stay in a certain range then making mistakes just gives you less money to spend. It sounds like Castillo is gonna take close to 10 million per to sign…..if he’s good it’s worth it……if he’s not then that’s 10 million you can’t spend on something else. I know nothing about him…..hope they are right whatever they decide

    • YakaTanaka

      Thanks, Captain Obvious…

      • dickylarue

        God forbid anyone actually post thoughts they have here. Sometimes we forget that this is the Algonquin roundtable.

        • YakaTanaka

          God forbid someone make a joke. I like Blake’s comments quite a bit, generally speaking, and have said as much multiple times. He just essentially stated the obvious here and didn’t really add any value.

      • blake

        You’re welcome

  • Terry

    One, needs a work visa and they want to start that process as soon as possible.

    You need work visa to enter the USA?

    What does Mike think we are?

    A sovereign country?

    This is the ObamaNation.

    We don’t have visas worth a damn.

    Everything is free to anyone who gets here; except for Americans who work for a living.

    • trr

      No. Politics.
      Got it?

  • gageagainstthemachine

    Something to pique my interest in Yankee Universe today, I suppose. Trying to keep a positive outlook, but, man, things not going well with the big club right now. Hope Castillo is the real deal if they do land him. The disappointments are mounting exponentially.
    Stay positive. Stay positive…

    • Terry

      Gambling is a bad way to run a business.

      His mental make-up and work-record would have to be pretty solid. El Duque was on the Yankees radar for more than 3 years before being brought into the organization with an assured roster spot.

      It would be one thing if the Yankees had done their homework on Castillo, quite another for this to be an actual sweepstakes. I can’t imagine they’d be willing to gamble their image and reputation on an outside straight draw for the 2014 season unless they are truly in dire financial straits.

      • gageagainstthemachine

        Wasn’t speaking to an assured roster spot or immediate impact right now. I doubt either happen and I don’t really think he’ll be a Yankee if his contract demands are a guaranteed roster spot this season. Just want something good to look forward to during a bad run, similar to Tanaka last season/offseason.

        • YakaTanaka

          He’ll be signing a major league deal with a 40 man spot in all likelihood. Otherwise you have to basically pay him his money as a bonus (plus potentially arb raises if that time comes), I believe, because he’s subject to the standard minor league contract.

      • YakaTanaka

        Yes, the Yankees know nothing about major Cuban players. All those scouts, but they don’t bother watching major international tournaments. They did it back when they signed El Duque… But they just forgot recently, despite the recent influx of Cuban talent into MLB… Makes sense.

        This is equally as ridiculous as the nonesense you posted below. Keep your politics to yourself, and if you must… Please make at least semi-coherent political statements. (Regardless of your politics, what you have said is nonesense.)

        • Terry

          I think the only person who’s overtly political is you Yaka.

          I mentioned ElDuque already so your point is void.

          In fact, you don’t really have a point beyond calling me “political”; the bottom line for me is the reality that Castillo will not be treated as a “sweepstakes” in the colloquially understood term because 2014 is not worth it. Financially, it’s a bone-headed approach to business. The Yankees will get Castillo based on his work record (which is not at second base) unless they are so desperate for unknown reasons that they’re willing to risk a fiasco that damages their meal-tickets:

          Their international image as the class of the MLB.

          If you have an argument to the contrary, make it.

          If not, don’t pretend that calling people “political” is a good counter.

          • YakaTanaka

            You’re embarrassing yourself.

            Your “ObamaNation” comment below is nothing if not overtly political. (And I really don’t care what your political views are… Just keep them off this blog and try to have coherent views that aren’t a ridiculous oversimplification of reality. That’s what I’m asking.)

            You clearly do not understand what I was saying about El Duque.

            The point that you seem incapable of grasping is that the Yankees know who Castillo is. They are not making a multi-year investment because they think he will help them for 1 month this season.

            Stay in school, or go back to school. I beg you.

  • William

    It would be nice to see the Yankees finally get a Cuban talent. The Cuban ballplayers in general brings a lot of enthusiasm to the game. they should get him and tomas and sign international free agent Bryan Emery

    • Douglas Rau

      Jose Contreras? Orlando Hernandez?

      • William

        I am talking about the last several years how about Puig and Cepesedes and the future stat Solar where was Hal when it came bidding for them

        • YakaTanaka

          The Yankees were major bidders on Solar (who is still more likely to be a future bust than star… though he’s a nice prospect). Pretty sure they were also rumored to be major players for Cespedes and Chapman. You can’t outbid everyone for every player.

        • Bo Knows

          They spent 4 million on a Cuban pitcher that hasn’t done crap for them. Also do you remember that other Cuban player signed by the Cubs 2 seasons ago that also hasn’t done jack? Hindsight is always 20/20 you only hear the success stories and ignore the failures because they don’t fit the narrative

          • William

            They need to improve there offense they need to start somewhere he is still going to be cheaper than prado and I am sure he would not hit less than drew is hitting .
            The free agent market is thin this year

            • Bo Knows

              I also forgot to mention that is it’s widely believed that the Yankees offered more per annual money than the Cubs but they had the offer of possessing a likely opening at the big league roster when he was ready, and more years offered (Solar signed a 9 year deal with the Cubs vs the 6 year deal reported by the Yankees)

              And to respond to your comment, yes the Yankees need offensive help but they should only spend if the player they think can help. If they truly believe Custillo can help right away at second and RF, sign him; but they shouldn’t do it for the sake of doing it and hoping he’ll succeed because he’s from the same island as Puig and Abreu.

              • William

                They have to do something to improve the offense look at the other two major teams the Red Sox and Tigers also want him bad I trust there general managers more than Cashman

                • Eric MacLaurin

                  Do you trust the agent that leaked the info more than Cashman?

                  Do you trust the honest representation of the Red Sox about their interest in a high risk free agent more than you trust the Yankee scouts?

                • Bo Knows

                  RedSox had a flukey year last year to win the WS, outside of that, what have they done this year and the previous several years to warrant trust? The Dodgers bailing them out? The fact they’ve missed the playoffs and in several occasions have and will soon be picking from the top ten in the draft because they are so bad?

                  The Tigers have a terrible farm system, far worse than the Yankees and it’s been that way for years; they can’t even scrape together a single decent relief pitcher. They’ve been fortunate when it comes to pitching acquiring professional pitchers but it’s not too difficult finding those guys when they were other teams #1’s.

      • RhapsodyInBlue

        El Duque? And before Godzilla and Tanaka there was the fat toad. You can’t stop going to the well, every International FA signing is a gamble.
        .

        • Douglas Rau

          I was pointing out to “William” that this wouldn’t be the first time the Yankees picked up a specifically Cuban talent.

      • TB

        Juan Miranda

    • Terry

      I don’t think most of the Yankees fan-base cares about Cuban talent; just talent in general.

      This isn’t Miami or Los Angeles where racial pandering will net you higher revenues to the individual organization; the Yankees franchise is based on middle to upper middle-class demographics, regardless of race (this spans the US, Japan, Korea, and even parts of Latin America).

      The key, again, will be Castillo’s mental makeup.

      If he’s a Puig personality and gets out of hand, the Yankees will dump him at the first sign of trouble.

      • William

        I just think that the Yankees at this moment don’t have any players that bring any kind of excitement they need someone to show emotion like Paul oneill

        • Terry

          Another time, another age.

          These days, different franchises have different molds of what is culturally correct. The Yankees wear tailored suits and cater to the middle class, the lifesblood of any major business in the world. That’s the Yankees niche as part of the MLB.

          The Los Angeles Dodgers are the “Gangsta” franchise of the MLB, and they have their own niche market to cater to.

          Miami, the Mets, etc at some point, of course, tried to create Latino franchises; not exactly my cup of tea to hire based on race, but there you go. It was a market they wanted to create as their own niche but multiple attempts to foment that movement never succeeded, in part I think because there’s a difference between middle class Cubans, Haitians, Panamanians, Venezuelans, etc.

          To people of moderate intelligence, it’s an insult to racially pander, so it only works in some demographics. It’s easier to pander to the stupid, low-class, low income racial demographics in some respects, but of course, it’s not nearly as profitable.

          • Gregory Eckes

            While the Red Sox pander to the working class with their “grittiness” and beards and so forth.

            • Terry

              Pretty much.

              But for the longest time, they were the “anti-Yankees”.

              Kind of like the horse in Japan that was loved because it kept losing. That was one of the Red Sox’s biggest pitches aside from being against the “Evil Empire”: They were the lovable losers.

              Of course, that changed in 2004, and since then, the Red Sox have been trying to brand themselves as the Little Engine that Could if only to try to retain their generational fanbase. The owners have been pretending to be the Billy Beanes of the East when, of course, most old-school Red Sox fans know their payroll increase is partially responsible for their recent competitiveness. Red Sox fans aren’t necessarily happy with the new generation of fans whom they regard as bandwagoners, whom they regard as iconoclastic to the Yankee fanbase.

          • YakaTanaka

            Please stop with this nonesense…

          • trr

            your comments are… how do I put this? Ah! stupid.

      • YakaTanaka

        Please stop

      • Big Game Thames

        You are spot on. To have people saying “Finally a Cuban!” is unseemly and borderline racist. As a strict baseball move this is more if the same from the Yankees. Worse, they can’t even spend money well any more. And they let Cano go for nothing while having no real plan in the system. Truly a horrendous front office and I have no faith this team will be better in 2015.

        • YakaTanaka

          You realize you are agreeing with a flambouyantly racist comment in calling others racist incorrectly, right?

          Wanting the Yankees to sign a Cuban has little to do with race for 99% of fans. I don’t know that I agree with them, but they see a talent source other teams are effectively exploiting and want in. Wouldn’t matter if it was Cuba, Holland, Ghana, China…

          Terry seems like just a straight up, hood wearing xenophobic bigot if you read through several comments on this thread.

          • Big Game Thames

            You are off-topic and insulting another member of the forum. Please read the guidelines and don’t do that.

            • trr

              If you call out Tanaka for his comments, then you should do the same to Terry.
              “And now, back to our show!”

            • YakaTanaka

              Please stop.

              I am not off-topic. I directly responded to your comment.

              Terry has insulted several races of people. I am pointing that out to you.

  • LiamInAlbany

    After missing out on Cespedes and Puig (although the Dodgers were the only real players for Puig) it would be a nice change to see the Yankees access the Cuban market. Not that I think Castillo will be anything close to Puig or even Cespedes in the power department, but he seems like a multiple tool player who can play 2B, which we need a lot.

    EDIT:

    • Big Game Thames

      So you just sign a guy because of where he’s from? Yankees last did that on Igawa…

      • TB

        Don’t diss IGAWA – he was a great AAA pitcher lol

      • LiamInAlbany

        At least the Yankees had private workouts with Castillo. They know who he is.

        Signing Igawa was a panic move after the Red Sox got Matsuzaka. Didn’t some of the Yankees brass admit to not even knowing what pitches he threw? And when they were trying to sign Tanaka didn’t Cashman express they did their homework this time?

        I think the team has really amped up its international scouting since the Igawa disaster. Igawa signing was almost 8 years ago, mistakes happen. Let it go

        • Big Game Thames

          I was responding to this knee jerk enthusiasm to a player based on where he is from. It’s asinine. I get that no one here has any real insight into him as a player. But for me the inability to do anything other than spend is really killing this organization.

          • LiamInAlbany

            Yeah, you responded to the part where I said he was Cuban. It’s a market that has shown it can produce some real duds or some real stars, just like every other market. Why not get involved? International FA spending can really help the Yankees that have very few internal options to help the team right now.

            I also said he seems like a multiple tool guy who seems to be able to pay 2B (or at least the Yanks think so). That’s something the Yankees really need, wouldn’t you agree? But that wouldn’t fit your narrative of knee-jerk ‘racism’.

            • Big Game Thames

              And you trust the Yankees’ judgement at this point? Why?

              • LiamInAlbany

                I trust that they know much more than anyone commenting here could possibly imagine. There’s a reason they are professional baseball talent evaluators.

                If there was no trust at all in the organization’s judgement, what difference would it make if they spend or if they don’t spend? At that point everything they’d do would be a mistake.

                I agree with you that the Yankees spend too much to solve their problems. But with the contracts they gave out last season, good or bad, its clear the Yankees are in a win-now mode, no matter how much we’d like them to rebuild. They can’t just abandon any sort of aggressive, expensive move based clearly on the grounds that it didn’t work out this year. They have a ton of money on the books for the next several years so they might as well go for it instead of stewing in self-hate. The internal options are going to be thin for the next couple of years, they might as well use this window of opportunity while they have it.

  • Big Game Thames

    Pretty amazing how even as they keep getting worse every year, their only answer is to spend. It’s not my money, but $50 million+ when they can’t be sure he can actually play 2b? In that case, why test Refsnyder in MLB over trading for Drew?

    • TB

      He also might be short term at 2nd base — Beltran is only signed for 2 more years

      • Big Game Thames

        Only, heh that’s funny!

        • TB

          I think beltran will actually bounce back and have a very good year next year. The bone spur screwed him. Once it is removed he should be fine. He is just naturally good hitter

          • Big Game Thames

            I’m glad you think so. I think he’s another overpaid elderly ball player. The evidence is on my side.

            • YakaTanaka

              No it is not. There is no evidence of how he will perform in the future. Please stop insisting you are right and try to learn something from other people.

              • Big Game Thames

                Sure there is, his age and aging curves, his recent offensive performance and trend lines, his defensive performance and trend lines etc. Just cause you choose to hide your head in the sand doesn’t mean the evidence isn’t there.

                • YakaTanaka

                  You are confusing projection with evidence. I am very familiar with statistical analysis. If you think statistical projection proves anything in this case, it would appear that you are not. It suggests the likelihood of future events. Does not tell you what will happen.

            • CashmanNinja

              Uh…the evidence goes both ways. He was solid in April (5 HR/13 RBI/.263 AVG), but then was brutal in May (injury) and June. He did, however, come back after the All-Star break and look like the player we signed in the off-season. 5 HR, 17 RBI, .299 AVG, and throw in a .355 OBP with an OPS of .850…yeah, I’d say that’s more along the lines of what we were expecting out of him. If you take away 2 awful months (where he played around 31 games either hurt or coming back from the DL) then he’s hit: 11 HR/34 RBI, .270 … not the worst, especially since he’s had 2 pretty big hits for us (walk-off HR and the grandslam that we ended up needing in order to win that potential blow-out). The injury sucked, but to say he’s not productive is asinine.

    • YakaTanaka

      They most likely will test Refsnyder in MLB when he’s ready. Cashman has already said he’s a candidate for next season. Patience: Ref has been in the system, what, 2.5 years?

      The reason they spend is it’s much better to have two good 2B, or three good 2B, than to have zero good 2B. Spending isn’t what is preventing prospects from developing (outside of losing picks… which is irrelevant with Castillo).

      • Big Game Thames

        Not true, whenever they spend big on a position they block talent from playing that position at the ML level. See McCant, Teixeira, Roberts, even A-Rod and Ichiro and Beltran. Only one 2b can play most days.

        • CashmanNinja

          And Tex and A-Rod helped win us a ring. I hate long deals as much as anyone, but even with how cooky A-Rod is…he did help us get a ring. Same with Tex. And you’re seriously complaining about McCain? Ok, so he’s sucked this year, but he’s STILL better than what we were running out there last year. Have you forgotten Chris Stewart? And the Roberts signing was a stop gap. So they don’t spend money in a position and you complain? If they thought Refsnyder was ready I think they’d have plugged him in instead of trading for Drew/Prado. Blocking talent? Ha. There is 1 important thing you need to realize: nothing will block talent. If someone is good enough, especially with the Yankees, they will find a way to make room for them.

          • Big Game Thames

            Except they let dollars block talent every year. Worse, they don’t even spend dollars well.

            • YakaTanaka

              What talent?

              • Big Game Thames

                Says Brian Cashman.

            • CashmanNinja

              Please tell me what talent they’re blocking. Please list an entire lineups worth of guys who are supposedly MLB ready that could have been plugged in for this season instead of Beltran, Ellsbury, McCann, Headley, Drew, Roberts, Prado, and like 20 freaking pitchers.

          • RetroRob

            And who did A-Rod block? Where are these great Yankees prospects he believes have been blocked?

        • YakaTanaka

          Who were those players blocking? You need to have deserving prospects in order for the expensive players to be blocking anyone.

          Murphy is about the only conceivable amswer. He’s been hurt and ineffective all season, and is being blocked by Cervelli and maybe now Romine as much as McCann.

          • Big Game Thames

            And that’s the hilarious response! Ten years prepping and not one decent prospect ready for this year or next year. The one who is closest they are about to block – that’s the topic of this post.

            • YakaTanaka

              This directly contradicts your earlier point.

          • Eric MacLaurin

            You are so sure that Gary Sanchez, Adonis Garcia and Refsnyder can’t help that you think it’s stupid to even give them some at bats to see before the season is lost?

            • YakaTanaka

              This doesn’t really address the issue at all.

              There are PAs for them to give around. Could have replaced McCann with Sanchez instead of Cervelli when he went down. Could have replaced any numer of players with Refsnyder or Garcia at any point this season. A few expensive players aren’t blocking those guys from opportunities. Their development timelines and/or the Yankees take on their ability to contribute in MLB are/is.

              • Eric MacLaurin

                It addresses your question about who the free agents are blocking.

                Players don’t develop playing a couple days a week and they don’t earn jobs in a 2 week audition.

  • CashmanNinja

    I love how everyone complains about certain things that literally can only help and not hurt us. Castillo would ONLY cost money. That’s it. Money. Fewer legit players are hitting the market now because teams are signing them through their prime. That means guys who hit the market are usually going to be getting paid the most for their lesser productive seasons. We’re going that route (again) and it isn’t helping. We have a chance to get a guy through his prime, who actually adds athleticism/speed to this team…and people complain? Ok…so we’ve had many, many failures in the international market. Not everyone you sign will be a star. That’s why it’s called a gamble. Irabu was a bust, but Matsui was the opposite. Igawa sucked, but hey…Tanaka looked pretty damn good. You can’t be scared off just because of past failures. Stop lumping others together because it isn’t fair. They’re DIFFERENT players. Just like El Duque was different than Contreras. And guys like Cespedes, Abreu, and Puig are different from Juan Miranda. The only thing we’d be gambling is money and sometimes that gamble can pay off big time. Most of the time they don’t, but there’s always a chance. You can’t succeed if you don’t try, but you’re guaranteed failure if you don’t act. So I say go ahead and try to get Castillo. It’ll only cost money. People here love throwing around money with the whole “It’s not my money” and “tickets will be expensive regardless of the payroll”…so let’s get him. We need offense and unless we do something this team will be fielding a very similar lineup next year as well and I just can’t stand to watch this boring team get shut out night after night.

    • Big Game Thames

      Except when they have a budget and don’t make the post-season year after year. They spend big on 10 players, then fill in with scrubs and inexperience. That’s no way to build a club and the results of 2013-2014 and likely 2015 are showing exactly why.

      • YakaTanaka

        You are seriously oversimplifying things and have somehow already decided how the future will play out. Interesting.

        Got to love the LoHud invasion…

        • Big Game Thames

          Because it’s pretty simple. WAR in and WAR out. Anyone paying attention last off-season knew what to expect in 2014 once they went cheap on their best player. There isn’t enough talent in their system or in the free agent market for 2015 to be any different. Not with the decline their existing “talent” is already showing.

          • CashmanNinja

            Yet Catillo is in his prime and would only take money. But oh wait…you’re against that because it’ll block others (aka “cheapies” whom you are also against). There is just no pleasing you.

            • Big Game Thames

              If they were willing to spend $300m every year, which they can afford, then it’s not a problem.

          • YakaTanaka

            You are contradicting yourself. Is there not enough talent in their system or are they blocking all the talent in their system?

            By the way, you do not know what WAR in (or out really) will be for 2015 before the offseason even begins.

            Stay in school.

            • CashmanNinja

              Apparently he’s got an inside scoop. I think he should demonstrate his power by giving me the next Powerball numbers.

              • Big Game Thames

                Past is prologue. Any one paying attention knew 2013 and 2014 were going to be lost seasons. And they were. With no talent close and few big players available in free agency, it will be more of the same, unless they gut the farm.

            • Big Game Thames

              The Yankees contradict themselves every year. They say they are for a youth movement then only spend.

              As to your point, the talent they do have is years away. But signing old name players to 3+ year deals gives that talent no where to play.

              • RetroRob

                What talent over the years have the Yankees blocked?
                When they’ve had players with talent — be they Cano, Gardner, Wang, Hughes, Chamberlain, D-Rob, Nova, Betances — they’ve opened up positions for them, or they have used them to trade to fill other needs, such as Montero for Pineda, or Jackson and IPK for Granderson.
                That’s exactly what they should be doing.

                If Severino keeps progressing he’ll have a spot. Same thing with Judge. Ditto Sanchez. Or Refsnyder. These players actually have legit potential, so they will be used by the organization to improve the big league club in one capacity or another.

                I hope you’re not confusing real prospects with Pirela or Roller or Wheeler, basically the Juan Miranda types. These guys are filler. The Yankees bring in a Wheeler to serve the exact role he’s serving. They need to field minor league teams so the real prospects have someone to play, and to serve when an emergency hits the major league club. Wheeler is not a prospect. If Almonte is part of the Yankees plans in 2015, then start thinking about 2016. Maybe he’s an ok platoon bat…at the most. He’s about it.

                You have to learn to separate the prospects from the non-prospects. Maybe you are, but reading your notes it’s not clear at all.

      • Terry

        This is very true, and its a function of the Yankees business model to continue to win, retain its somewhat superficial fanbase (beyond its baseline fanbase), and the pressures of performing against its financial liabilities, such as its “television contracts” which are actually self-dealing debt in this case.

        Developmentally (which is where most of an organization’s savings come from), it’s hard for the Yankees to attract prospective talent because most good prospects will refuse to sign with the Yankees, knowing that their futures are likely to be blocked by high-priced veterans at some point. Hence a big dynamic why the Yankees will often pass on college talent, because that talent has already told them to take a hike. The mirror image to that is that since the Yankees can’t get good talent, they’re further cornered into the high-priced FA market. It’s one of the dynamics that is self-reinforcing, a consequence of the Yankees heady years – it’s business, it’s functional reality, not personal.

        If the Yankees got the #1 draft pick and a Mike Trout was on the board, they might trade away the draft pick because Trout might refuse to sign with them.

        That’s overstating things, perhaps, but it gives you an idea to the Yankees dilemma, unless they start losing, and their finances are either clipped or hit a wall…

        …because that’s the only way the Yankees business model changes.

        • YakaTanaka

          LOL… It’s hard for the Yankees to attract amateur talent? Do you follow MLB? They signed like a third of BA’s top 30 IFAs this year.

          Please stop with the nonesense.

          • Eric MacLaurin

            The Yanks outspent everyone and missed the best 2 players because they went where they knew they could advance quickly.

            Some guys want an extra million and some want to get the the majors quickly. I would never sign with the Yankees without much more money or a major league contract.

            • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

              Is that why they didn’t sign with the Yankees? How do you know? Wouldn’t the same thinking apply to every prospect?
              How do you know the teams they signed with didn’t just like the player better and offered more than the Yankees were willing to? (opinions on 15-16 year olds can vary widely, the Yankees signed the top 2 on the mlb.com list)
              Or those teams got in early enough to block the Yankees?

              • Eric MacLaurin

                The same thinking does apply to every prospect.

                That’s the point. This isn’t magic or telepathy.

                Things actually happen for a reason and they tend to happen the same way for the same reasons. Understanding why things happen allows you to watch it play out without having to know what anyone is thinking or wondering at what magical powers allow some people to be successful while others fail.

                • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

                  That doesn’t answer the question.
                  What evidence is there that the players who didn’t sign with Yankees didn’t sign because they were concerned about their advancement possibilities?

                  • Eric MacLaurin

                    It doesn’t answer one of the 6 questions you asked. I’m not a library service

                    I tried to explain why things happen hoping you could put it together without a written document. It’s OK if you can’t and don’t understand the concept well enough to talk about it without documentation of some sort.

                    Most of your life occurs without proof. Why do you need proof that something happens to believe that some people actually make decisions for a reason?

                    • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

                      But there is no evidence at all that people actually making those decisions made them for that reason. You point to 2 16-year olds not signing with the Yankees and state as fact that it’s because they went where they could advance quickly.
                      I could think of several much more likely reasons for those players not signing with the Yankees.
                      The truth is you have no idea at all why those 2 particular 16 year olds didn’t sign with the Yankees.

                    • Eric MacLaurin

                      When the best team in the world has an open checkbook and you say no, there is a reason. This was never a discussion about me possessing documentation of a IFA thought process.

                      You can pretend whatever you want for that reason and because I have no proof you can feel really good about it.

                      Things don’t get better when you have problems and don’t try to figure out solutions but thankfully you don’t run the team and I’m sure someone there is addressing why we can’t get the best players even when money isn’t an object.

                    • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

                      1)We don’t know if the Yankees even pursued those specific players.
                      2) There are numerous reasons beyond worry about advancement possibilities that would explain why no deal was reached if they did actually pursue those players.
                      3) The checkbook isn’t completely open. I’m sure even in this massive expenditure, they had a budget limit, and were trying to get the most bang for their buck. Money is always an object.
                      4) Not everybody agreed those were the best players. The Yankees may not have thought they were the best players. Or the Yankees may have been late to the party and didn’t have an opportunity on those specific players because they were already being shielded by their eventual signing team.

                      Of course they should try to figure out problems. We have no idea at this point if the Yankees even view not signing those specific players as a problem.

                      We certainly don’t know that the source of that problem, if it is actually one, is concern for possibility for advancement, as you assume, with absolutely nothing to support that assumption.

                      They Yankees might have just decided they didn’t think those specific players were worth their signing price.

                    • Eric MacLaurin

                      Why are you in such denial?

                      I can’t argue with someone that thinks the Yankees cornered the market on top IFA’s but decided the top 2 guys weren’t really worth it.

                      Stop bothering me.

                    • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

                      I said that’s one possibility, among many.
                      And not everybody even agreed those were the top 2 players. The Yankees signed the top 2 on the MLB list.

                      It’s not nearly as straightforward as you pretend it is.

          • Terry

            Do you even read what you’re responding to?

            I just said: “Hence a big dynamic why the Yankees will often pass on college talent, because that talent has already told them to take a hike. The mirror image to that is that since the Yankees can’t get good talent, they’re further cornered into the high-priced FA market.

            And you responded with “They signed like a third of BA’s top 30 IFAs [International Free Agents] this year.

            Please stop with the nonesense.

            Thanks for making my point, even though you’re too stupid to realize you’ve contradicted yourself, rather than contradicted me.

            I’ve looked at all of YakaTanaka’s responses.

            They’re nothing more than name-calling and ignorant assertions that have no connection to what he responds to. He “argues” like a dim-witted liberal, with limited numbers of canned, snide remarks.

            Me: “The Yankees are interested in talent regardless of race. They are based on middle-class demographics.”

            YakaTanaka: “You’re a racist!”

            Seriously, he’s not only unintelligible, he’s simply an idiot.

            • Eric MacLaurin

              There are far more dim witted conservatives than liberals though I agree you can usually tell which is which by the subject matter.

        • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

          Weren’t most of their top draft picks the past couple of years college players?
          Jagielo, Judge, Lingren

          Do you have any actual evidence that the Yankees have passed on specific players because they were told to “take a hike” by players concerned about advancement opportunities?

          • Terry

            There have been a few in their history, but the most high-profile one recently off the top of my head was Gerrit Cole.

            Needless to say, baseball organizations (especially the image-conscious Yankees) are in no mood to lose face by drafting #1 picks and watching them thumb their noses at them. For a number of obvious reasons, it is rare for a draft pick to refuse to sign if for no other reason than the baseball franchise does not draft the prospect if there’s any doubt he will not sign.

            But this was one of the last watersheds in the Yankees developmental program and attempts by Cashman to attract (and keep) baseball talent.

            You also have to understand the context here; Cole alluded to a promise to sign with the Yankees when he was drafted, but after watching the hokey way in which the Yankees mishandled pitching prospects like Joba, Hughes, and banishing Ian Kennedy, it’s rather obvious why he changed his mind.

            On the day Cole turned away the Yankees, one of the reputed “can’t misses” of the draft class, no major prospects has deemed fit to sign with the Yankees.

            Look at it from the point of view of all those prospects looking to be drafted at the time:

            After all, if Gerrit Cole (a legend of not just his own draft class) didn’t think he’d be able to make it in the Yankee organization, what were the chances that other, lesser prospects would get a fair shake?

            And if you were a #1 worthy draft pick, why would you risk your career with the Yankees?

            Why not develop in a ballclub that had middling players (which you can definitely beat for a job), knowing they have to play you because they can’t afford high-priced free agents, then sign a mega-million $ deal with the Yankees or another club after you’ve made your mark?

            It’s not even close.

            Cashman’s plan to stock the minor-leagues with Beane style developmental prospects was doomed by the Yankees business model, plain and simple.

            • Terry

              As an obvious aside, I should also mention that Cashman’s attempt to change the way the
              organization handled prospects is a big reason why Joe
              Torre had to be forced out of the organization.

              I’m pretty sure most Yankees fans know this history.

              • Eric MacLaurin

                That’s because Joe didn’t do rookies and at some point you have to rebuild. Joe needed a top dollar free agent team to succeed and that isn’t sustainable.

            • Eric MacLaurin

              Cole is a reach and if you only have one sort of example you really don’t have a point, regardless of how many words you use to try to make it.

            • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

              Cole didn’t sign because his father was already wealthy and convinced him to go to college. It had nothing to do with advancement possibilities.
              Using Hughes, Joba, Kennedy as examples only refutes your claim. They all advanced very quickly. None were truly blocked by high priced talent.

              • Terry

                Cole didn’t sign because Scott Boras was looking out for the kid’s best interests, which was to dominate college baseball, join a middling team in a pitcher-friendly park, have a team which would have no choice but to commit to him due to financial constraints, and then hit sign a mega-million dollar deal with a team like the Yankees or Angels when the time came.

                Low-risk.

                High reward.

                Hughes, Joba, and Kennedy were already being mishandled by the Yankees, being bumped into the bullpen (or off the team), proving to Boras that it would be professional malpractice to endanger Cole’s promising career, which I am certain he told his father.

                Cole’s father – as saavy a businessman as you might think he is, certainly knows that you take advice from people who know the business.

                So he took Boras’ advice, which is the smart move. The rest of the press release about the Yankees not being offended by the rejection and Cole wanting to go to UCLA is a half-truth at best, and filler PR for the gullible masses at worst.

                • Eric MacLaurin

                  Your right on everything except the joba, hughes & kennedy nonsense.

                  You are compromising very strong arguments with little dingleberries that ruin their flavor.

                • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

                  All reports to the contrary.
                  And that would really make no sense.
                  If the idea was just to avoid the Yankees, he could have gone to JuCo and been drafted the very next year and avoided the injury risk of committing to 3 years of college baseball (and I’m sure that’s what Boras would have advised).

                  All reports, and all evidence, point to Cole’s father insisting he go to college.

                  But feel free to make up your own make believe scenarios if that make you happy.

        • Eric MacLaurin

          The problem here is that you are overstating things to the point where your argument loses validity.

          Trout isn’t worried about getting to the Major leagues and the Yankees aren’t going to let a top 5 pick get away to save a few dollars.

          It works on free agents but the draft isn’t a free market.

      • RetroRob

        Year-after-year?

    • Eric MacLaurin

      I love how people with no concept of money discuss spending money on one thing as though it has no impact on anything else.

      Money, basic physics, everywhere in reality you have repercussions for everything you do. Why would anyone think spending 40 million in one place will lead to the same spending levels in other places?

      • CashmanNinja

        No concept of money? Regardless of how the Yankees do they will ALWAYS be a team that fans have to invest money in. Ticket prices will always be higher than a Royals game. Parking will be higher. The shitty beer will cost more. Food will cost more. Merchandise will cost more. It’s supply and demand. And if the Yankees suddenly gutted their team like they just took a page out of the Marlins’ play book (without getting a WS win in the process), fans would go absolutely crazy…and things would STILL cost a lot because it’s New York and things will always be more expensive here than in somewhere else because the Yankees are a business that will continue to generate money. So I’d rather they take that money and throw it out to free agents rather than put it in their pockets like Jeffrey Loria of the Marlins.

        • Eric MacLaurin

          What does that have to do with the price of chinese tea?

          My point was money spent in one place comes from another. Signing a FA for 40 mil means not spending 40 on something else you need. It doesn’t come out of the hot dog budget.

          I didn’t say the Yankees should stop investing in their business.

          • RetroRob

            It’s not zero sum.
            The Yankees have shown they will spend additional money when their other bets don’t pay off.

            • Eric MacLaurin

              That have also shown that they will not do it continually & that they have a limited amount each year for things like that. This fits within the definition of a budget.

              it isn’t exactly zero sum but it’s far closer than you think.

    • truefanforlife

      When George was running things money was Ju s t money. Hal sees it different I think, he’s about that dollar lol. I agree with you though, we have to leverage our advantages to compete for October every year and that advantage is dollars. I hope Hal sees the same. Give cashman what he needs, virtually unlimited funds. With ifa restrictions, young players extending through prime etc we have to leverage our money to maintain competitiveness each year. Spend Spend Spend, but do it wisely and take calculated risk. The guy seems like that risk, go get em

    • Deep Thoughts

      I honestly did have trouble distinguishing Contreras and El Duque in 2003, when Hernandez got traded and Contreras showed up. Oops!

  • spongeworthy1

    Would love to see a young, talented Cuban in the organization. If we miss out on Castillo, I recommend a 2015 Spring Training invite for Jorge (don’t call me Tilapia) Steinbrenner.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I’m more the typical age of a FA signing, though. And I REALLY cannot hit a baseball.

  • ronald frushon

    WELL ,YES LETS DO ANYTHING TO GET CASTILLO,BUT UNTIL GIRARDI GOES WE WILL NEVER GET TO THE WORLD SERIES AGAIN

    • Pkyankfan69

      Yeah, Girardi is the reason most of the team forgot how to hit…

      • TB

        No that’s Kevin Long – Not Girardi

    • Angelo

      YES, GIRARDI DON’T HIT BASEBALL HARD ENOUGH

    • YankeeBill

      I often hear that Girardi must go. What I’d like to know is why people think that way and what manager would do a better job? It’s one thing to demand his departure. It’s another to come up with a good argument as to why.

  • Bigdan

    I’ve been writing for months now that I believe Hal has been looking hard to make a Cuban investment. I think Hal believes that there are special opportunities and advantages inherent in this market that the Yanks have recently missed out on and I believe he’s made correcting this oversight a priority. I think they considered Diaz carefully in the Spring but decided he just wasn’t very good. It appears the Yanks believe Castillo is good enough.

    Blake pointed out below that an investment in Castillo is likely to impact next year’s budget and in so doing, make other acquisitions less likely. That certainly is the nature of budgets and the nature of Hal. But I said about a week ago, I think Hal will make an exception here because he views the Cuban market as a special priority. He can go “off budget” or place this expenditure in a different budget for the purposes of control. Nevertheless, there are always “roster costs” associated with these types of transactions. The Yanks apparently see Castillo as a 2b. If they make a large expenditure to sign him, he will play 2b next year whether he hits or not. And Refs will most likely become trade bait.

    Last night was yet another example of the Yanks’ need for an impact middle of the order bat. Quite simply put, the Yanks need a real No. 3 and No. 4 hitter for next year. I don’t think Castillo profiles that way but another Cuban, Tomas, might. So maybe Hal won’t just be looking for one Cuban. Maybe he’ll take two.

    • Eric MacLaurin

      off budget.

      ah yes the magical place where 10’s of millions of dollars appear and never have to be repaid.

      It isn’t real.

      There is a budget and then there is a special situations budget.

      Both are limited. One is a one year budget and the other is a less defined long term budget with a limited number of withdrawals per decade and a limited amount of total available funds.

      Using this money on now will mean not using it on a play in the future.

      There is no free money. It just doesn’t work that way. If you want free money you need to create new revenue not new obligations.

      • Bigdan

        You do realize that the payroll budget is a fiction don’t you? Just like most budgets. Like the budget of the Personnel Dept or the Engineering budget of any business.

        Budgets exists as a way for management to impose control and discipline on the organization and it’s employees. It is also an evaluative tool. And like any tool, it can be used and dispensed with as senior management sees fit.

        None of us have any clue as to what the Yankee’s real operational budget looks like. In that “real” budget, payroll is just one line item, probably next to rent somewhere. Just has none of has any clue as to what the Yanks’ financial statements look like or just how profitable the enterprise is. But Hal knows. And Hal is the one who ultimately decides when and which budget applies. We are just observers.

        • Eric MacLaurin

          You mistake a published budget for an actual budget and they are completely different. In large part because of the two budgets I mentioned and the fact that borrowing from the long term budget allows the yearly budget to seem non existent.

          There is always a budget. You can either do the work to see what your budget is ahead of time or wait until you hit the ceiling.

          The budget is a factor of how much money you have and how much you bring in. It gets adjusted by thousands of other factors but not writing out or adhering to a budget doesn’t mean financial reality has been suspended.

          I agree that published budgets are not limits that prevent extraordinary measures.

          I do not agree that money spent never comes out of future spending.

          • Bigdan

            “There is always a budget. You can either do the work to see what your budget is ahead of time or wait until you hit the ceiling.”

            ————

            You see that’s not true. Like I said, a budget is a management tool. They can discarded or avoiding at any time. And there is really no spending ceiling. That’s why firm’s have credit lines. And access to the capital markets.

            ——–

            “I do not agree that money spent never comes out of future spending.”

            _________

            I suppose in some metaphysical way that may be true. But firms do their planning based on fiscal years and usually the next year it’s a clean slate for everybody. Almost. I think the proper response to your last comment is: “it all comes out in the wash.”

            • Eric MacLaurin

              it’s not metaphysical, magic or anyting tricky.

              a business makes 100 dollars

              they spend 50 on labor

              30 on other

              10 to profits and 10 into reserve

              You can’t spend 150 on labor every year. IT’s simple math

              You do have the ability to borrow but since that is paid back with interest it actually reduces your budget every time you exceed it.

              You could borrow against the eventual selling price but that also requires an interest payment that must come from that 100 of income.

              The fact that the Yankees are such a huge and complicated business doesn’t mean they are immune to these concepts.

              You are calling a marketing/management tool ( in this case a fake budget) a budget. When Mattingly was fighting for 5 mil a year the budgets were all lies.

              What I think you are missing is that when you discuss an actual expense. it is real money that impacts the real budget. if you simply ignore what they say about any of it you get back to how much money you have to spend and the fact that you have to decide when to spend and when not to spend because you can’t buy everything.

              The simple point though is that you have to know there is a point beyond which Hal will not be pushed. That’s the budget over the next season and a half. We need to spend it wisely or lose.

              • Bigdan

                “The fact that the Yankees are such a huge and complicated business doesn’t mean they are immune to these concepts.”

                ———

                Yea I think it does. This isn’t a lemonade stand. Large businesses can operate on a negative cash flow for many years and actually still be a viable going concern. This is especially true with private businesses like sports franchises who don’t publically disclose their financial condition and rely heavily on asset valuation.

                But lets bring this back to reality. I think what you are saying is if the Yanks go over budget on payroll in 2013, they’ll be less money to spend in 2015. Or 2016. Like I said, I suppose theoretically that’s possible. But from a planning standpoint, businesses like the Yankees generally start fresh every fiscal year. So much happens in terms of revenue and profitability from year to year and over several years (like making and missing the playoffs), that it is not likely going over budget one year is going to impact the Yanks significantly in future years.

                • Eric MacLaurin

                  You said many years.

                  What happens in many years?

                  You either don’t have to worry about Math as a limiting factor or you do. I think Math is a real concept and the fact that you can borrow for several years before you pay it back doesn’t disprove my points.

                  The fact that you said many years in fact supports my point at the expense of yours because it shows that you do know you have to pay back anything you borrow at some point.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          This is the biggest bunch of shit I’ve ever heard.

          Signed,
          Someone who contributes to organizational budgets

          • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

            I find it interesting that he doesn’t claim to know what Hal’s budget is this time.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Yes. Everything he said was just a mirage, apparently.

              So that no one claims that I had no counter-argument, perhaps this “budget as instrument of control” thing works with entities with infinite amounts of money and, hell, it may even apply to the New York Yankees. That’s not the argument he made, though, and he’s welcome to come speak in front of the board of any non-profit and try to explain his theory.

              W-R-O-N-G.

  • TB

    Personally I think Castillo makes the most sense for Detroit and I think with the fact they wont be spending money to retain Scherzer or Porcello I think they spend it on Castillo to play the outfield for them since Jackson is gone now.

  • Farewell Mo

    I’d rather they invest on a 27 year old and possibly cash in on his prime years than the 30 somethings in the FA market where you’re pretty much guaranteed footing the bill for mostly declining years.

  • Pkyankfan69

    If we sign him I just hope the guy can hit… If he can hit we can get value for him at 2B, OF, or through a trade… If they do sign him they better be as sure as possible he’ll hit in the majors.

  • Donnie Baseball

    Yankees need to acquire talent, depth, and athletes. All three are requirements. Castillo should be an acquisition at this point.

  • nsalem

    An offense of all Brett Gardner’s would be far superior to any offense in the mlb. It would be comparable but a shade below the 1998 Yankee offense. It is hard to watch this team and It especially stings to acknowledge the fact that teams like the Royals and Mariners will more than likely finish ahead of us this year. The last two years have really sucked. Some of it was bad planning, but I believe more bad luck was involved.

    • Farewell Mo

      Most of it was bad planning with some bad luck involved.

      Fixed.

      • Eric MacLaurin

        Totally disagree.

        The injuries are not all bad planning and the concentration of starting pitching injuries is more than any team can overcome.

        • Farewell Mo

          Giving an obese 30+ year old pitcher who already had a massive amount of innings on his arm a huge extension when 25 year old Darvish was available for less money, especially against the luxury tax was bad planning. Giving 37 year old injury prone Beltan 3/$45 was bad planning.
          Pitching injuries are like a plague all over MLB, not just in NY.

          • Eric MacLaurin

            Do you think you just made the case that most of the problem is bad planning? losing 80% of your starting pitching is not traceable to Beltran and CC.

            Saying that signing Darvish over CC was an obvious decision means you’ve probably only been a baseball fan for a few years.

            I think part of the problem is that we’re in the middle of a rebuild from a title run that was pushed from the beginning to the end of Derek Jeters Career. You always pay a price for mortgaging the future like that.

            We had to be really lucky to compete during the rebuild and we were unlucky.

            We could have made better decisions but blaming this on bad planning is really an argument that we should have started the rebuild sooner.

            • Farewell Mo

              The failure was when Cashman took over in 2007 or 2008 and proclaimed he was rebuilding the farm and then failed in doing so. There was no way to maintain long term success signing older players to long term deals in the post PED era without plugging in some good young cheap players also.

              I’ve also been a BB fan since probably before you were born.

              • Eric MacLaurin

                ahh. you could be too old to remember.

                Darvish was not a sure thing by any standard and CC was a superstud we couldn’t afford to lose. Looking back it’s obvious. Even at the time a lot of people thoungt it was worth the risk. Acting like it was stupid to count on CC vs Darvish for a team ending a long title run is … well.. stupid.

                Failing to rebuild the farm is as much of an ownership fault as a Cashman fault. It also doesn’t happen overnight. The decision brings a period of evaluation followed by changes, reassessment, more change and finally a new system that then has to aquire and develop talent that is gievn a chance to play.

                Cash was absolutely right to do it and it’s been done pretty well though slower than anyone had hoped.

                This was also happening at the end of the steroid era when you just didn’t know who was on what and when.

                • Farewell Mo

                  The Cards let Pujols walk, the Yanks could have done the same with CC. It was foolish to pretend a guy that size with that kind of workload was gonna roll on indefinitely. The yanks were able to give Tanaka a salary that far exceeded what Darvish would have cost and the consensus was Darvish was the better pitcher by no small margin. They must have felt Tanaka was worth the risk, then why wasn’t Darvish worth the risk?

                  You’re nothing more than another Cashman apologist if you’re blaming the failures of the farm on ownership. Cashman has had an ample budget and ownership hasn’t made any rash moves trading kids for vets like George did repeatedly.

                  • Eric MacLaurin

                    The cards let Al walk because they had a ton of top prospects to take his place and didn’t have a ton of money.

                    The Yankees had a team on it’s last playoff legs and needed a stud now. They we’re willing to eat the back half to get the best now pitcher and Darvish was an unknown.

                    After igawa and matsuzaka he was far from a sure thing.

                    Do you not remember the sentiment on Japanese pitchers at that time?

                    Do you know know the difference between the Yankees and Cards?

                    Do you think it was Cash that decided to extend CC and Arod?

                    You don’t seem to know a lot about recent Yankee history

                  • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

                    Comparing the Tanaka and Darvish salaries isn’t really a fair comparison, as they were in entirely different posting processes.
                    I think a big part of the Darvish decision was probably the Yankees not wanting to make the massive upfront investment in the posting fee. If the posting fee then was the same as the $20M fee required for Tanaka, I think there’s a good chance the Yankees would have been very agressive going after Darvish.

                • Bolek

                  ahh. you could be too old to remember.

                  Is this a problem in your family history? Or something you worry about for your future? If it is, my sympathy and a sign-off right here.

                  But, if not, what you said is a particularly nasty personal insult.

                  • Eric MacLaurin

                    He didn’t seem to know about the yankees 3 years ago. I thought he was too new to remember. he said he was a fan before I was borm which makes him very old.

                    assuming he is very old and can’t remember the world 3 years ago I’m stating fact.

                    I’m sorry if you take it personally and yes I deal with it personally.

            • YankeeBill

              Well put. Management will never admit to a rebuilding, but that’s exactly what you’re seeing here. And let’s not minimize the fact that the end of Derek Jeter’s career has put pressure on players who frankly couldn’t be expected to handle it. Guys like McCann, Beltran and Ellsbury are excellent complementary players, but they’re not guys who can carry a team. Can’t rely on pitchers to carry teams because they only appear once every five days. Right now there’s no one you can look at on this roster and say this guy will carry us. And that’s what you needed in 2014. Hopefully one of the young players will emerge as one or they make a fortuitous deal and one falls in their lap.

              • Farewell Mo

                The yanks have miscalculated badly if McCann and Ellsbury are only “complimentary ” pieces. Ellsbury is in the top 10 and McCann in the top 20 highest paid position players in the game. Those guys were signed to be Elite players at their respective positions.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            I get this in theory, but I was jumping up and down when CC got the extension. I can’t speak here.

      • nsalem

        It’s not fixed. We just have different opinions on how we view t he state of the team and mine is that yes there was bad planning but if the last 2 years it has been bad luck.

    • pecos

      don’t bet the ranch yet this year on Gardner. He has entered his last two months of the season “fade” into oblivion, just like he has done almost every other year.

    • Terry

      The Yankees likely don’t think of it as bad luck, they probably think of the roster as a set of risks and rewards.

      And not all of those rewards are connected to production on the baseball diamond, perhaps not even most.

      Looking at the compiled roster, I think Cashman covered some bad bets (which weren’t necessarily his own) with nifty acquisitions mid-season, but who knows what the Steinbrenners think (or their financial constituents, advisors, and business partners).

      As I’ve been saying, 2014 is definitely not the make-or-break year for the Yankees with the new roster and a half-billion in investments. The Steinbrenners know that and will allow the roster to play itself out for at least one more season.

      If the yankees aren’t playoff-bound in 2015, however (outside of some strange 95-win anomoly), Cashman’s era will likely be over.

  • Farewell Mo

    Funny how some argue not to sign Castillo because they already have Refsynder. Talk about over valuing a prospect. There have been far, far better MI prospects than Refsynder who have failed miserably when called up to the majors.

    Even if both pan out, you have a good problem on your hands and a valuable trade chip for a change to fill one of the numerous other holes on this roster that. Cashman has screwed up so royally.

    • Terry

      Refsnyder’s merits or demerits are irrelevant to Castillo.

      Castillo is not a 2B unless the Yankees want to sacrifice short term defense (which everyone has seen the disadvantages in Brian Roberts), in which case, he is not a long-term answer and simply fodder.

      If the Yankees are serious about Castillo at 2B, they will send him to the minors and make him work at the position. But if he is that sought after, I don’t see the Yankees sending him down.

      In short, he is as much a blank slate – MLB-wise – as Refsnyder.

      The relevant reason why Yankees fans would want to see Refsnyder ahead of Castillo is because they want to see kids coming out of the system, rather than see the Yankees consistently bringing in expensive FA’s (especially lottery-ticket FA’s) and watching the farm system degrade and become demoralized through constant neglect.

      • Farewell Mo

        Signing Castillo does nothing to degrade the farm system. The fans want a good player at the position and could care less whether it’s a IFA from Cuba or a guy from the farm.
        They need to do whatever they can to bring in young talent.

        • Terry

          First: Signing high-priced FA’s does indeed degrade the system if for no other reason than the prospects realize they have no future with the club and will want to be traded.

          None of these prospects are intested in languishing in the Yankees farm system forever. They want to get out ASAP and go to San Diego, or Arizona, or Pittsburgh, etc where the team will have little choice but to commit to them and let them play for a contract.

          Second: be mindful of what part of the world this is. Yoenis Cespedes, for example, is not 28 or however young he claims to be, and I think that was one of the reasons why Beane let him go for a rental, even one as highly coveted as Lester [and Gomes for depth].

          That risk-factor will be built into his price.

          • Eric MacLaurin

            I think one point many here don’t get is that minor league players earn less than minimum wage.

            Spending an extra pointless year in the minors is horrible.

            • Terry

              This is why I was happy for Solarte.

              It was a given that the Yankees would not commit to him, even though he’s clearly been a good soldier to the organization.

              But there it is again: Would Solarte have made it to the MLB if he had been in the San Diego system to begin with, rahter than the Yankee system which has had staples of Jeter, Cano, and Arod blocking Solarte?

              If you’re a prospect, a Highschool star, or a College phenom, the Yankee system is the Death Valley of the MLB. Of course the Yankee farm system is barren now.

              What right do they have to expect otherwise?

              • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

                This makes no sense.
                Solarte wasn’t blocked by anyone in the Yankees organization.
                He got an immediate opportunity to play.

                • YakaTanaka

                  Terry is an immediate oaktag… Read through this thread… A bunch of white supremacist crap about how the Yankees are a team for the upper middle class (i.e. white) while the Dodgers, Mets, and Marlins pander to the low class Latinos and “gangsters.”

              • Jorge Steinbrenner

                Say what?

            • YakaTanaka

              The idea that this hurts their motivation is questionable at best, though. It should increase their motivation.

              • Terry

                It hurts their ability to sign drafted talent.

                Gardner is an example of a prospect too many organizations overlooked because of his lack of “talent” (which is a euphemism to describe his lack of size). Only those prospects who are overlooked, and a littel desperate, would deign to take their chances with the Yankee farm system.

                If they had a choice, most would rather go to a middling or losing team.

                • http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ Need Pitching & Hitting

                  It’s a draft. They don’t really have a choice.

                  And was Eric Jagielo desperate and overlooked?
                  Aaron Judge?

                • YakaTanaka

                  The Yankees have had little trouble signing picks.

                  Cole is one of the few recent examples, and he fell in the draft specifically because he was a tough sign.

                  You are really in over your head and don’t seem to have the first clue what you’re talking about.

                  • Farewell Mo

                    These lohuders have just destroyed the comment section. Such a shame.

                    • Jorge Steinbrenner

                      Well, they actually have stopped you and I from arguing with each other. :)

                    • Farewell Mo

                      That’s one good thing.
                      These guys almost make me long for the battles with Ted.

                      Almost, not quite though.

                    • Jorge Steinbrenner

                      I’d rather have Ted. He actually presented a coherent argument every time, whether you agreed or not. 95% of these people are giving nothing but hot air.

                    • Farewell Mo

                      Yeah. I guess abject nastiness is preferable to utter stupidity.

                    • RetroRob

                      Ted was an interesting character. He actually did have very good ideas and clearly understood the game. I agreed with him most times. Yet he was as thin-skinned as any commenter here, and if someone even slightly disagreed, he’d go off the deep end, even attacking those who supported him. His nemesis Plank was the same. Had good ideas, but just could not take anyone with an alternative point of view. The two of them together were both humorous and painful.

                    • truefanforlife

                      I’ve met a few lohudders who have great insight, but it’s just a case of a few making them all look bad. Times change. ……

                    • RetroRob

                      Agreed. I’ve seem more piles of steam in the last couple of weeks than I have in the last couple of years.

                • Jorge Steinbrenner

                  No, it doesn’t.

                  Anyone getting drafted into baseball who is automatically thinking about getting blocked at the big league level is getting waaaay ahead of themselves.

                  • Deep Thoughts

                    I could see, like, Albert Belle or Shef thinking this way. In a coke-fueled 80s kind of way.

              • Eric MacLaurin

                really?

                I think you ignore that these guys are real people with real lives and families.

                They can’t afford to keep playing in some cases

                in others they can’t train as much.

                in others they spend half the season making money instead of getting better.

                Motivation might be a bad word but focus and ability to dedicate the time are very valid.

                • YakaTanaka

                  No, I don’t ignore that at all. As real people, they are likely to do whatever they can to get the 6 figure payday that comes along with making MLB… plus the marginal pay increases that come along with promotions in the minors. They are not likely to say… I am in High A ball, probably two or three years away from being MLB ready, but I will try less hard to get a promotion and pay increase because the Yankees signed someone three levels above me.

                  How many Yankees prospects are retiring or taking other jobs part time? What are you talking about? Most prospects go to instructs and many play winter ball.

                  • Eric MacLaurin

                    I didn’t play baseball because I struggle with failure and standing in the sun all day or getting hit in the face with a baseball isn’t something I consider to be fun.

                    That said I can’t believe any of these guys goes a full season confident they will make it.

                    Saying these guys will do anything for a 6 figure salary when they can’t feed their children is what I mean when I say real people.

                    These are just regular folks in most cases that aren’t making enough to support themselves. They will get opportunities every day to make more money doing almost anything else.

                    Only the guys with money or short minor league stays fit your description.

                    I would imagine all Yankee prospects with signing bonuses work in the off season instead of training.

                    Are you aware that not everyone makes enough money to eat? The real world isn’t about dreams of a Major league contract. It’s about feeding the people you love or pursuing a dream that most people never reach…even though in A ball.

                    Do you know what $5 an hour means in real life?

          • YakaTanaka

            So… your theory is that the Yankees prospects try less because they want to get out of the system faster? The worse they do, the faster another team will try to acquire them? Interesting…

            And every Cuban or Latino in general lies about his age?

            Got it. You are not a bigot or anything. (Beane let Cespedes go because he is a mediocre value who is only signed through next season, by the way.)

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              I’M TWENTY-FUCKING ONE, BITCHES!!!!

          • Farewell Mo

            wrong.

            You’re really gonna try and say minor leaguers are gonna demand trades because the Yankees have signed FAs?

            You do realize most are drafted and have little to no leverage where they go. The Yanks just signed a ton on young IFAs who don’t seems too concerns about the Yanks blocking them with FAs.

            Also I’ve never heard a rumor about Cespedes being older than his stated age. MLB and homeland security are much more stringent on verifying identities and dates of birth in recent years.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              I’d love to see what happens to that minor leaguer who requests a trade.

        • RetroRob

          Correct.

      • YakaTanaka

        How much have you watched Castillo play? You seem to know just about everything about the guy and his ability to play 2B…

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          His name is actually “Terry Castro.”

    • RetroRob

      The overvaluing of Refsnyder is off the charts right now. I like him, and did even before this breakout season, but it’s not as if he’s viewed as some can’t-miss prospect. Even the can’t-miss prospects miss. Castillo and Refsnyder can both play the OF, so even if both turned out to be good MLB players, it’s not as if they’d have nowhere to put them. And then there is the other potential. Trades. Package Refsynder for some other position they need to fill.

      • Farewell Mo

        Exactly. Look at how valuable Zobrist has been for the Rays being able to play IF and OF. You always can use those kinds of guys if they can hit and like you said, Ref could be a nice chip in a trade.

  • pecos

    I think Blake should tell us that Drew is going to be great next year and there’s no need to get Castillo. Just keep Drew on second so we can all watch him “turn two”just like he did last night. It’s only “catch and throw” anyway, right Blake?
    Drew is still in spring training—after 53 games.

    • Terry Noack

      and he’s also playing out of position. Can’t blame him for the teams lack of 2B.

    • YakaTanaka

      This is not just Blake… it’s logic and statistics you are arguing against…

  • BigLoving

    Does anyone have anything of a scouting report on Castillo? All I have heard this far is he is comparable to Brett Gardner with a touch more power that might be able to stick at 2b.

    • Eric MacLaurin

      Hey!

      We aren’t here to talk about his baseball ability. We have no proof and he’s completely unproven.

      :)

  • nsalem

    It’s not fixed. It’s just a different opinion. The organization that developed this team is the one that has by far and away won more games than any other team over the last 15 years. Have they made some bad decisions certainly when you have to make thousands of them some will be bad ones. No organization this size in and out of sports is immune from that. I agree that the resigning of A-Rod for that length of time the handling of Chamberlain and Hughes and many other decisions were very poor ones.

    • RetroRob

      I agree with your overall point, but was the handling of Hughes and Chamberlain poor?

      • YakaTanaka

        I would guess mostly because they didn’t turn into aces…

        • RetroRob

          I suspect that’s actually it.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Ceiling is ceiling, though. It’s not highest probability outcome.

      • Bolek

        I don’t know what to say about the handling of Hughes, but has the Yankees’ handling of Joba ever been an issue anywhere but on message boards?

  • Hankflorida

    Getting a young power player to play 2nd makes up for not having two power players in the outfield. In order to save money, the Yankees relied on two aging ballplayers, Soriano and Beltran, instead of keeping Cano and the formula failed. Beltran should be at DH next year, and even with Castillo in the infield, the Yankee should look to get two power bats at the corner outfield positions. Having Drew, Prado and Ellsbury as table setters with six table cleaners is a good mix for the Stadium and may produce 850 runs in a season instead of 650.

    • Donnie Baseball

      This makes a bunch of sense. i would trade Gardner while his value will never be higher and continue to add depth, whether it be pitching or position players. Unfortunately, Beltran cannot DH fulltime, as ARod will be back. But I think you can add power to LF and hitting – maybe they check their ego at the door and bring back Melky to play LF. You could go: Ellsbury CF, Melky LF, Beltran RF, Tex 1B, McCann C, ARod DH, Castillo 2b, Drew SS, Prado 3b. It is not that much of an improvement, but a start.

      • YakaTanaka

        Or you can just keep Gardner and likely have as good a team or better…

    • YakaTanaka

      The line between power and contact is not so clear. It comes down to total offensive production either way. Power is increasingly rare in the post-PEDs era… so the chances of actually finding a bunch of power next season isn’t that great.

      If you actually mean better hitters and not just power hitters (you can sign a bunch of Mark Reynolds’ every off-season)… it’s easier said than done.

  • RetroRob

    Hope they get him. Increasing depth is a good thing.

  • Pkyankfan69

    Wow, Beltran back in RF

    Brett Gardner LF
    Derek Jeter DH
    Jacoby Ellsbury CF
    Mark Teixeira 1B
    Carlos Beltran RF
    Chase Headley 3B
    Martin Prado 2B
    Francisco Cervelli C
    Brendan Ryan SS

    RHP Shane Greene

    (Courtesy of Chad)

    • Farewell Mo

      I’d have rather seen Drew at SS than Ryan but at this point, it’s probably a moot point.

      • Bolek

        If they get on, expect the O’s to test Beltran’s arm by running like cheetahs on the bases.

    • Bigdan

      This is Girardi’s wet dream. The rotating DH spot and the half day off. The problem is, the way it seems to play out, it ends up with backup players like Ryan getting more ABs over the course of the season than they should. The Yanks DH production the last couple years has been abysmal. I’ve always felt making Beltran a FT DH would change that and also protect Beltran’s health. But that’s not going to happen. And it won’t happen next year either.

      Substitute Arod for Headley and you may very well be looking at next year’s lineup.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Wet dream? More like a necessity as the roster aged.

        I’d love to meet someone who actually wouldn’t have ridden the core into the ground.

        • Eric MacLaurin

          Where do you live?

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Why? Do you have candy?

            • Eric MacLaurin

              I thought you were 21.

              and wanted to meet someone smart enough to keep the team competitive.

            • Farewell Mo

              I think he wants to ask you out on a date being an heir to the Steinbrenner fortune and all.

        • RetroRob

          I’d been happy with Andy and Mo back this season. They’d be better with both of the old guys.

    • Deep Thoughts

      That’s right, let’s see him make his peace with that wall and resume hitting like he had been till them.

    • Bigdan

      Maybe Drew needs a day off but this can’t be viewed as a very good sign regarding his SS audition.

    • Mick

      Called for this last night but had McCann at C. Sitting Drew and Prado at 2B where he belongs.

  • Terry Noack

    It was great to see Mitchell outduel Sox godsend Owens last night.

    • Bigdan

      That was very very nice. As an aside, I was chatting with some guy on the other site back in ST. We were talking about Greene because I was remarking how good his stuff looked. This guy knew a lot about Greene’s history/signing and thought he would surprise a lot of people. I remember him saying that he would take Greene over any the Red Sox’s heralded upper level pitching prospects.

      • Eric MacLaurin

        I’ve never been able to figure out why Greene is so ignored.

        How many upper level prospects have we had with that velocity? I’ve been waiting for a few guys like this years and thought everyone would be very excited.

        • YakaTanaka

          Because he’s struggled with control and consistency throughout his career. A lot of guys can throw hard and the Yankees have had a bunch of SP prospects with similar velocity in recent years.

          • Farewell Mo

            This.

            MLB is littered with starting pitchers with the same or similar velocity to Greene and haven’t amounted to anything.

            • Eric MacLaurin

              The Yankees aren’t and haven’t been. We’ve been dealing with guys just a tick over 90 for the most part.

              • Bigdan

                The may be the reason why the Yanks seem so enamored with Mitchell. Now there’s a guy who’s really had some poor minor league numbers. I think recently this is the best he’s ever pitched. He’s supposedly a starter who can sit mid-90s. I guess I’ll believe that when I see it (they said the same stuff about Hughes) but it sure seems like the Yanks like him a lot.

                • YakaTanaka

                  Mitchell has arguably the best curve in the system. The Yankees aren’t enamored with him enough to start him over freaking Rogers. He’s just done enough to progress through the system and has potential to help in MLB (probably more likely out of the pen, but has a chance to start).

                  Player development is not all about minor league results. In fact, a lot of teams say they don’t use stats for promotions until about AA.

                  • Jorge Steinbrenner

                    He’s always been a “project” case. I guess, if “enamored” means they’ve allowed him to slowly progress through the system, he has a very skewed view of the what the word “enamored” means.

                    • Eric MacLaurin

                      Doesn’t enamored mean they have continually rated him very highly?

                      They are more enamored with proven anything which is why they never promote anyone until the death of the major league player.

                    • Jorge Steinbrenner

                      Apologies to Vicki.

                    • Eric MacLaurin

                      I guess you had to be there.

                    • Bigdan

                      It’s been reported that the Yanks were looking to acquire Dustin Ackley from the Mariners and the Mariners wanted Mitchell and the Yanks refused. Ackley hasn’t hit in the majors but he’s supposedly a competent 2b, certainly a position of need this year and perhaps in the future as well. Ackley was once a top prospect (mostly for his hitting) something Mitchell never was. So clearly the Yanks think very highly of Mitchell, something that doesn’t seem obvious from his minor league record.

                • Eric MacLaurin

                  This was the other guy that prompted the unearned promotion comment.

              • YakaTanaka

                You seem to have a selective memory.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              You should have underlined this for emphasis.

            • Eric MacLaurin

              the sport is about failure and every single player is a failure at some point.

              that doesn’t change the value of the tool.

              • Farewell Mo

                That tool is a dime a dozen. Every team has 2-3 relievers at least who throw as hard or harder than Greene and washed out as a starter.

                • Eric MacLaurin

                  speaking of tools

                  • Farewell Mo

                    Go back to lohud you moron.

          • Eric MacLaurin

            Never was the wrong word.

            This year is the first year he’s been worthy of excitement.

            That said I’ve been very excited this year and haven’t seen him as the 4th, 5th starter I see most of these guys capping out.

            It’s surprised me that people haven’t seen him as legit.

            • RetroRob

              Pitchers such as Greene, Betances, Mitchell and Nova have more upward potential if they can harness their velocity, and develop the necessary second and third pitches, and certainly command. Most probably won’t reach their peak potential, but it’s certainly there. As an organization, you hope one or two of these guys do. Greene has always been on the radar as a potential breakout pitcher, but it wasn’t until last season that he started to improve his command. I’m excited by what he might offer.

            • YakaTanaka

              He has potential… but between the inconsistency and his platoon splits (a result of his sinker/slider mix which is friendly to opposite handed hitters) he’s just not a top prospect. Could put it together or get by with what he has… could not.

              Velocity has plenty of value, but is at the same time probably the most overrated aspect of pitching among fans.

              • Eric MacLaurin

                It too complicated a subject to get into now but I don’t really agree. People treat Velocity like another pitch and it isn’t. If you have a perfect pitcher he’s going to have it all including velocity.

                If you don’t have velocity it’s almost never enough to just have another good pitch.

                That’s a terrible and incomplete explanation of what I’m thinking but as far as I’m concerned if you can’t hit 95 you can’t be a number one starter.

                it will happen here and there but I’m not interested in the investment. Hughes was an example of a good pitcher who just couldn’t survive a couple of MPH below his career peak.

                I believe in just going for the guys who have that tool and accepting that most will flame out or end up in the pen.

        • Bigdan

          The guy’s been basically under the radar because, aside from last year, his minor league numbers have kind of sucked. And he wasn’t all that young. But according to this guy, his stuff was always good but he just could never harness command. And extreme ground ball pitchers like Greene give up lots of hits in the low minors because the infielders and the infields are not very good. Often pitchers like Greene put up better numbers in the majors than the minors.

          As bad as the hitters have been all year, the young pitchers have been pretty darn good. I really like the combo of Greene/McCarthy for the Yanks going forward. They remind me of Stottlemyre and Figueroa. And Wang. Not sexy, but capable of winning a lot of games in YS. I love lefties, but if you can’t have lefty, give me a ground ball fiend.

          • Eric MacLaurin

            Another good reason prospects just need to be promoted sometimes even when they don’t earn it. I think people forget they are assets the team needs to get something out of instead of putting the burden on the kid to earn it.

            • Bigdan

              Haha. Sounds like you are making a case for promoting Williams lol. I’ve been super critical of Williams the last couple of years. I don’t think he was ready for AA when he was promoted last year. His numbers in Tampa weren’t that good. But I’ve got a weird feeling if he gets promoted to Scranton, his hitting will improve. I don’t think he’ll hit enough to be a major league starter mind you, but I think he’ll hit enough to be a major leaguer somewhere. He just needs to get out of Trenton.

              • Eric MacLaurin

                Hey :)

                Actually DBJ. Reading about how some players just can’t seem to hit in some parks. The ground ball defense issue you mention and the idea that AAA is full of players with very good skills that aren’t well rounded.

                In other words (AAA) has a lot of really good hitters from one side who are exposed at the next level.

                or pitchers that are really good on one side or with one pitch but are well rounded enough to be good against everyone.

                I think sometimes a guy with enough talent can get caught in particular difficulties associated with a lower league that will go away in a higher league.

                Williams is another issue entirely but since my point is looking into the unknown I guess it would include moving him to AAA before I just cut him.

  • TB

    I watched a video of Castillo and this guy can actually play SS. This might be what they are truly looking at. He can play all 3 outfield positions and both middle infield spots at SS and 2B but honestly I think he looks better at SS than 2B. Offensively very compact swing – quick to the ball – Reminds me of a RON GANT replica at the plate – surprisingly good power… And fast as hell too

    • Deep Thoughts

      Oh good, another of your video scouting reports, like the one in this thread:

      http://riveraveblues.com/2014/.....1536683118

      How do you plan to quarantine him from evin-Kay ong-Lay?

      • TB

        Deep Thoughts really don’t be such a loser on this board.. I know its difficult for you but seek some therapy

  • Septhinox

    It week be nice to get him since all he cost is money. This is where the takes should be flexing their financial muscle, not on some stars declining years.

    They are going to f around and lose Robertson to because their stupid archaic rule of negotiating players under contract. Could’ve kept Robbie for far less had they offered say 6/150 2 years ago.

    They are lucky NYS and the fan base prints money because they are horrible managers of it.

  • Hankflorida

    If CastIllo is nothing more then a glorified table setter, he is not a fit for this team. Power has to come from other positions when two of your outfielders are not known as RBI players. If A-Rod is the DH next year and Beltran is in right with Prado at 3rd, 2nd and SS should have players who can deliver RBI’s, and that isn’t easy to get as those bats should be in the outfield.

    • Farewell Mo

      So unless you’re gonna get Cano back somehow, who do you propose the Yankees get to play 2B who will hit for power?

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      So who plays second, then, if your other option is Refsnyder?

      What do you have to offer other than grand generalizations?

    • Deep Thoughts

      I’m in the lab working on a concept I call “Dan Ugglostendione.”

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    My thoughts on this are simple: Going with this guy as a second baseman, going with him as a shortstop or outfielder, clearing the way for Refsnyder as long-term option, and just skipping on him and looking elsewhere are all potential legitimate options. They have more hands-on info as to Castillo as anyone else does at this point.

    I like the multi-positional potential of Castillo, from what I’ve read, and am glad they’re major players for a guy who seems to profile, at least, decently at various positions. If it turns out he’s a second baseman, and that Refsnyder is destined to be a trade chip, then so be it. History will judge that, as it will judge any decision, as to whether it was the right one.

    I don’t see the downside to having this guy on board. Saying that and having the best offer, though? Two different things.

    • Preston

      If he was a true SS I’d be a fan of signing him. But that doesn’t seem to be the consensus and it’s hard to believe that his Cuban team stuck a guy who could play MLB caliber SS in RF. As a 2b/RF I’m fine with it as long as it isn’t stopping them from pursuing MLB options too.

  • BillyBall

    People, you heard it here first from me (someone in the know). Mark my words, if the yankees sign Castillo it will not be to play RF, it will be to play 2nd base. That means Refsynder is expendable. But there is a follow up move if they sign Castillo more so .

    The Yankees will package Refsynder, Sanchez, a pitcher possibly Mitchell) for Troy Tulowitzki.

    I am not saying I’m in favor of said move due to Tulo age (30) and history of injuries. You have to figure Tulo has 4 more premiere years at SS and than his defensive skills will start to come into question.

    Would I like to have an infield of Texiera, Castillo, Tulo, and Arod/Headley and an Outfield of Gardner, Elsbury, and Beltran until Judge and others are ready. Yes that will look pretty good to me!

    Add a starting staff of tanaka, (health?) Nova (healthy?) CC (healthy?) with Greene, McCarthy (resigned) and one of Banuelos Severno, Mitchell, Phelps.