Trade deadline additions yet to have an impact offensively

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Heading into the trade deadline, it was clear the Yankees needed to upgrade their lineup and their rotation. The pitching help never came, at least not in the form of something other than a scrap heap pickup, but the team did add three position players at the deadline. Chase Headley was acquired to shore up third base, and, about a week later, Stephen Drew and Martin Prado were brought in for second base and right field, respectively.

The Yankees were getting close to nothing from those three positions before the trade deadline. The team’s third basemen hit .224/.321/.301 from June 1st through the Headley trade while their second basemen and right fielders hit .204/.259/.319 and .228/.254/.290, respectively, in June and July before the Drew and Prado trades. That’s pretty awful. The Yankees had (at least) three dead spots in the lineup for a two-month stretch and something had to be done. That couldn’t continue.

Headley, Drew, and Prado stepped right into the lineup and immediately improved the team’s defense even though the latter two were playing out of position. Surely the focus was on upgrading the offense, but improve the defense was also important and the Yankees accomplished that with the trades. The offensive production has not been there yet, at least not from Drew and Prado. Headley is hitting .250/.354/.382 (110 wRC+) in pinstripes and it would be unfair to lump him in with the other two. He hasn’t been great with the bat but he hasn’t been part of the problem either.

Drew and Prado, however, has been totally unproductive in their limited time with the Yankees. Drew is hitting .154/.195/.231 (12 wRC+) in 41 plate appearances so far, and two of his three hits (!) came in his first two games with the team. He’s gone 1-for-28 with no walks since. He has consistently had long at-bats (4.12 pitches per plate appearance) but, as we saw with Brian Roberts, that is close to meaningless if those at-bats don’t turn into times on base. He’s been very good defensively in my opinion, especially since he’s playing a new position, but that hasn’t been enough.

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Prado, on the other hand, is hitting .189/.250/.297 (51 wRC+) with a homer in 40 plate appearances with the Yankees. He took David Price deep a week ago and has three singles with no walks since. Prado wasn’t hitting much with the Diamondbacks before the trade (89 wRC+), though he was trending in the right direction, with a .282/.326/.411 (103 wRC+) batting line in the two months prior to coming to New York, but he has not sustained that success in pinstripes. I don’t think anyone was expecting peak Prado, when he was consistently a 117+ wRC+ player with the Braves, but I think we were all hoping for something better than this.

Now, both Drew and Prado are playing new positions and that could be hurting their offense. Drew didn’t have a proper Spring Training and Prado is also changing leagues. If nothing else, those are reasons to hope they will improve going forward. Not hitting since joining the Yankees doesn’t mean they will not hit forever, but these last eleven games or so happened. They’re in the books and neither player has helped the struggling offense. The Bombers averaged 4.01 runs per game before the trade deadline and they’re at 3.82 runs per game since. Obviously facing Corey Kluber and Detroit’s staff last week will skew the numbers a bit, but Bud Norris? Carlos Carrasco? Anthony Ranaudo?

The Yankees lack a bonafide number three or four hitter in the wake of Robinson Cano‘s departure and that type of hitter simply wasn’t available at the trade deadline. The team was going to have to get by with smaller upgrades to add depth to the lineup, and the Drew and Prado additions theoretically did that. They have yet to hit though, failing to meet the low “better than Roberts and Ichiro” standard this far. The Yankees don’t have the pitching or the impact hitters at other positions to continue carrying multiple dead spots in the lineup. Drew and Prado have to start producing for the team to have any hope of climbing back into the postseason race.

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  • Chip

    That’s part of the problem with needing major pieces at the trade deadline. Players are humans and while we would like to think it’s just plug and play these guys have lots on their plates outside the game that can weigh on them between the lines. Minor details such as finding a place to live, what to do about the home they’re leaving. Helping with any of the family issues that result from the move. And then there’s trying to fit in and help the team and all that good stuff.

    • Eric Buser

      Sounds like normal, regular people issues to me. Ohh but you forgot the fact they make millions of dollars! If this is truely the case, toughen up you pussies and start hitting the ball.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    I don’t want to dismiss the improvement made on defense too much here. This looks like a very different team out there. Disappointed offensively by all three thus far, but I’m still a believer in all three out-performing those they replaced before this is all said and done. Getting them for minimal return in comparison to their potential production also matters here. Production concerns out of RF and 3B have been one of top worries thus far, but I’m not yet ready to lump these guys in with the guys who contributed to the majority of the problem this seasonr. If Headley and Drew don’t hit, that will raise a question as to whether they’re back next year. You have to think longer term with Prado. You don’t have much of a choice there.

    • JGYank

      I agree that the moves have really improved the defense. Infield looks much better in that regard.

      But like you said, Drew and Headley are auditioning for next year. The Prado trade allows them to fill nearly any hole in the next 2 years with a decent player and he can replace guys that go down. Could see him at 2nd and RF next year. Drew could be the 2015 SS or maybe even the 2B. Headley is less likely to be kept than Drew because of the Arod situation but he seems like a solid 3B with a great glove. I don’t really want to count on a 40 year old 3B with a year of rust coming back and being productive and healthy. And then there’s the distraction part of it. I’d also look into keeping McCarthy as well if he pitches well and comes cheap.

      It’s been a small sample so far so I’m not worried about their bats yet, but if they don’t get it going it probably will lead them to look elsewhere for replacements. Would be convenient just to resign them and then focus on the pitching.

  • dkidd

    bigdan in 5,4,3…

    • HansDavenport

      Good one. Likely a Volare post. Just a note. Being near to the area were tonight’s game is scheduled, I’m going out on a limb and saying probably no game. It has rained the entire day and it is forecast to continue thru the evening.

  • Kevin Wrong

    I have been working exclusively with Prado and Drew and you can see the affect I have had on them offensively

  • Big Game Thames

    Exactly where this team was never designed to win. Letting Cano go and replacing him with a guy they already had was a recipe for not scoring runs. They needed a 2B, RF, and 3B going into the season. It was foolish to think those major upgrades would come mid-stream. One position is a maybe. Three is clear neglect.

    • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

      Because every single team is well stocked at every single position.

      • Big Game Thames

        Who said every position? And which other teams spend $200 million a year?

        Besides that, nice counter argument.

        • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

          “They needed a 2B, RF, and 3B going into the season.”

          But whatever, excuse me for thinking you want something at every position by reading that. And 200 million is actually full of dead money. 23M to CC, 22.5 to Tex, 21 to Ells, 18 to Sori, 17 to McCann, 16 to Kuroda, 15 to Beltran, 12 to Jeets. That’s 144.5 million to 7 players. By comparison, 85 for Toronto’s top 7, 98.75 for Boston’s, 72.3 for Baltimore’s. The next closest I can think of is 135.5 for Dodgers’, and 126.5 for Phillies’. We still have more money than other teams to construct rosters but 72.5% of that money goes to 25% of the roster.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          I think we need to give lessons on what “argument” and “counter-argument” mean. How is “clear neglect” something you build a serious counter-argument off? It’s pure hyperbole. An argument is something built on actual fact, of which you and too much of the diaspora seem to think isn’t necessary on here. What counter-argument, other than “no, you’re wrong,” can someone possibly give you here?

  • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

    If Drew doesn’t start hitting soon we would have been better off just starting Johnson at second.
    Prado on the other hand is a mid-long term move. Of course I’d like to see him start hitting immediately but the guys we traded away likely won’t help the big league club much until Prado’s contract expires.

    • Kevin Wrong

      Dont worry i teach them how to hit better. I know i can turn them into .200 hitters

  • Deep Thoughts

    I was genuinely surprised to see Drew’s P/PA number above 3, much less 4. It seemed to me like pitchers have no need to respect his bat at the moment and are challenging him early in the count. I suppose I would watch more of his PAs if I didn’t have a visceral reaction forcing me to stop watching after 3 innings.

  • Big Game Thames

    I’d add that I like Headley. But playing him at 1B is more idiocy.

    Drew and Prado were the wrong answers to awful problems of their own making. Prado isn’t a RF. He doesn’t hit like one and never will. Meanwhile Drew shouldn’t be playing a new position and he’s no upgrade over Solarte or Johnson at 2B. Both of those guys could have been fine at 2B if the Yankees had just left them alone there. Instead, Brian Roberts was left alone.

    Just a poorly run organization with no rhyme or reason.

    • Kevin Wrong

      Prado is probably going to be 2nd or 3rd basemen next year but it is mind boggling they traded for him when he is owed 22 mill in 2015 and 2016

      • Big Game Thames

        Ugh. So, so dumb. Better to re-sign Headley, let a kid play 2b, and sign or trade for a proper RF. I see nothing from Prado.

        Meanwhile, don’t they have like $170m already committed to 2015? No 2b, no SS, no RF. But at least A-rod will be back!

        • Kevin Wrong

          Beltran will move back to RF next season after he has the bone spur removal surgery and AROD will be the DH.
          They could have then signed Headley to play 3rd and let this kid Refsnyder play 2nd and try to get a legit SS.. If they sign drew this off-season i will be furious

  • Big Game Thames

    Meanwhile, Solarte has an .832 OPS in SD with more homers than Headley, Drew, and Prado combined.

    And I like Headley. The team just continues to choose names over production. Signing Roberts was like Tony Womack all over again.

    • Kevin Wrong

      Well Hal has an opportunity to change the culture this off-season. Cashman is not signed. He can go in a different direction and cause a major shake up near the top of the organization…. Lets see if he has the balls to do it and change course

      • Big Game Thames

        Getting rid of Levine would be the major move. He’s the one responsible for A-Rod. Getting rid of Cashman but keeping Levine is worse.

        • bringbackthebullpencar

          TRUE!!!! VERY TRUE!!!

    • HansDavenport

      I love the Womack comparison. Except they went from Womack to Cano. This time Roberts to Drew.

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      The Solarte sadassing will soon look as silly as the Eduardo Nunez sadassing in April.

      • Big Game Thames

        What makes you think Solarte will regress? Right now he’s far better than Drew and Prado. They chose names.

        • JGYank

          Maybe track record?

        • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Because he’s never hit and he’s done this already once this year. What makes you think he’ll keep it up?

          • Big Game Thames

            Even if he averages out to a .750 OPS all year, that’s an upgrade to the Yankees. You’re denigrating a guy who could help. Why? And it’s easy to dismiss but he’s exactly hitting his peak. It could be a decent few year run. Given their feeble offense, and likely for the next few years, he could have been a piece to have.

            I like Headley, but I can’t imagine the choice was only Solarte.

            • RetroRob

              He’s fungible, which is how the Yankees got him. The AL pitchers already figured him out, the NL will too. But if you want to believe in him, feel free.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Head. Desk.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        But Mike, he’s supposed to be hitting his peak as a player now. Haven’t you heard?

      • RetroRob

        It is pretty amazing that some people miss Solarte or think he’s valuable. Oh, he will stick around. As Klaw basically said, he’ll turn a hot Yankee start into a three year MLB career.

    • Keyser Soze

      If you believe this, then you fall into the bigdan school of SSS. Solarte is the guy who always looks good every time he gets to a new place. Give it a few minutes, he’ll fall back to what he really is once the honeymoon is over.

  • Robert

    Drew is a SS playing 2B,Prado is a 3B playing RF and Headley has a chronic bad back whose Epidural is wearing off.
    I maintain that Wheeler,Refsynder and Almonte would have done better and given the Yanks more insight into what these guys will be next year.
    Drew Prado and Headley will not become better players next year.

    • HansDavenport

      Very true. Those guys have likely had their day.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      And I’d put good money on that neither will Wheeler or Almonte.

  • https://OldKinderhook.wordpress.com Prospect Hugger

    So far, Drew seems like a left-handed-hitting (i.e., mostly non-hitting) version of Brendan Ryan, but without the goofy sense of humor. Headley could still turn into next year’s Brosius, But Prado is looking disturbingly like a straight-up replacement for the beloved but departed Solarte, but at 22 times the cost.

  • ropeadope1

    Ichiro should see the lion’s share of playing time in RF. Headley and Drew will contribute going forward. I’m highly optimistic of good things to come.

    • BKamm

      As long as Ichiro is in RF full time the problem is solved.

      • ropeadope1

        Agreed. Why can’t everyone be as wise as you?

    • JGYank

      So what happens to Prado? He’s the only one out of those guys that’s actually under contract the next couple of years.

      • ropeadope1

        Ichiro understudy remainder of season. Doubt Ichiro returns next year, so we unleash Prado full time in 2015.

    • Austinmac

      Ichiro probably has the worst OPS of any right fielder in baseball. Surely you jest.

      • ropeadope1

        I never jest.

    • TB

      Drew stinks….

      • Kevin Wrong

        Drew is horrible – if cashman suggests to Hal to resign him i would say nice knowing you – no new contract for you

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    They haven’t done a damn thing Mike. Cashman was lauded as this genius for making all of these “incremental upgrades.” That’s all we heard about, these “incremental upgrades.” Do you know what that really means? It means what you had before was awful and what you got now is one step above awful.

    The one thing they needed most was power. The ability to hit a 3 run bomb and give that pitching staff some breathing room. He did nothing to address this need. When Brett Gardner is your 2nd biggest power threat in the leadoff spot you know the rest of the lineup just ain’t very good.

    The Yankee clubs of yesteryear would routinely have 7 or 8 guys hit 20+ HR’s. This club might have 1. You’d go up and down that lineup and see 7 or 8 guys with OPS’s over .800. This club might have 1 – Brett Gardner.

    • mitch

      nobody lauded cashman for his genius. You’re building a straw man. I think people were just happy they got a little better without giving up anything of significance.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        It was fun to hit “flag this comment,” though.

    • nyyankfan7

      There are currently 46 guys in all of the MLB with an OPS > .800 to expect the Yankees to have 8 or 9 of them is asinine.

      In 2000 there were 91 players…obviously the game is changing.

    • TB

      Lmao Cashman a genius — That’s like calling OBAMA a genius

  • dickylarue

    I can’t decide if it was more fun to watch Overbay, Chris Stewart, Jason Nix & Reynolds in a struggling sputtering offense or watch this current crop of more accomplished names struggle and sputter.

    While I don’t 100% agree that you blame the hitting coach, it’s bizarre how the Yankees all slump together all the time. How averages all plummet once they put on pinstripes. Usually, you’ll have a couple of hitters to get your through when they other guys are down. I mean Gardner hits and gets on base, but that’s about it.

    The new additions frankly fit right in with the old subtractions. It’s like there’s a groupthink thing going on with this team.

    And I know I’m not supposed to blame Girardi, but I do. He’s made playing for this team the softest pillow in the league with all his mandatory days of rest. I feel like when the bell finally rings and the games matter more to Girardi, it’s too late and they press. I know that’s just a fan perspective, but I’m sticking to it. At least they’ll all be well rested for Jeter’s farewell in September.

    • Big Game Thames

      I like Girardi but the idiocy of playing some guys out of position – Headley, Johnson, Ryan – while leaving inferior defenders alone – Jeter, Roberts – is infuriating.

  • ScottinSJ

    We will NOT be defeated tonight . . . game is rained out.

  • RetroRob

    Headley has been a good pickup looking at offense and defense, coupled with his overall plate discipline. The team will need Prado and Drew to step it up. They don’t need to be superstars, but there’s a large gap of contribution between what they’ve been so far and superstars.

    • TWTR

      The problem is that Prado is being put at power positions (RF/3B) despite lacking power (something this team badly needs), and he may well be in an offensive decline.

      Taking on his contract given their payroll commitments was hard to understand, other than that it is part of the continual one-year plan way of thinking that has put them in this position.

      • ScottinSJ

        The entire “grand plan” has gone from multi-year to one-year to a monthly plan. Really, in fact, there is no plan. Just a bunch of spaghetti thrown against the wall to see what sticks.

        Anyone with high expectations is kidding themselves. This entire organization is a mess.

      • mitch

        I don’t have a problem with the contract. I think he can give them enough value as a super utility man to earn his paycheck. I agree that i wouldn’t want to head into 2015 with him as the starting 3B or RF.

        • ScottinSJ

          As long as someone throws him anything but an inside fastball, Prado is toast. He’s no answer.

        • TWTR

          How can a team with $170m worth of commitments in 2015, including Prado’s contract, much of that being invested in declining players, possibly get value from a $11m utility player, especially when he is a poor fit for most of those positions?

          Unless of course, the payroll is going up to $250m or more.

          Often times contracts determine playing time. It wouldn’t shock me if he is permitted to block Refsnyder.

          • mitch

            i think a 250mil payroll is more likely than not

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          I was told this morning that it wasn’t my money. THE GAME HAS CHANGED.

        • Frodo

          Utility infielders do not earn 12 million a year.

      • RetroRob

        He’s worth his contract as a two win player, which even if he’s in decline at 30 he can achieve. That’s not the issue.

        • TWTR

          He is currently at 1 this season according to Fangraphs..

          Beyond that WAR has its limits because it views players in a vacuum, not in the context of a payroll/budget.

          But I hope other teams share your view, because if they do, they should move his contract.

          • RetroRob

            They do.

            • TWTR

              The proof will be in the impending payroll and roster flexiblity achieved.

        • Frodo

          with his declining offense and where they plan on playing his next season (2b) achieving 2 WAR will be next to impossible.

  • YankeeBill

    Realistically we have to look forward to next season. In addition to the other moves the team must make, I would like to see the Yanks keep Headley and Drew. Drew will benefit from a full spring training and the relative security of knowing the SS job is his and his alone. Headley appears to have the approach that so many successful Yankees of the past has. Patience and plate discipline. Plus his defense is excellent. Prado will make a fine all purpose player. But whoever is the hitting coach has to get him to stop opening up his front hip so early. Balls on the outside half of the plate are killing him right now. Might not be this year, but the future may not be as bleak as some think.

    • ScottinSJ

      So next year, you’d advocate for a lineup of Gardner, Ellsbury, Beltran, McCann, Headley, Drew, Tex, A-Rod??, and 1 other? Not a reason for optimism there. No better than this year’s mess.

    • Austinmac

      Good assessment of Prado. He has a very short stroke and quick bat, but he is opening up way too early. He has nothing left for an off speed pitch or a ball on the outer half.

      • Frodo

        If his bat is so quick, why is he continuing to have declining metrics against fastballs?

  • Austinmac

    Trading for Prado was a curious move. He is a good player with value in his versatility, but he is not a right fielder. He also is owed more money than I believe his production demands. His $11M salary is a very big hit for next year. I would rather have that money to put toward a starter or SS.

    • dickylarue

      Get ready to hear how Prado’s money is going to affect what they can spend next year. It was a very curious move and quite frankly makes little sense to put him in the OF. His bat really only plays at 2b. At 3b/RF he’s a loss.

      • Frodo

        I’m pretty certain they plan on using him at second next season. Unfortunately, that’s his worst position. Watch his WAR drop to -1.

  • Fork Stickerinner

    The offense has been pathetic. Period. Cashwoman dealt away our future 3b and promising young stud pitcher for what? 2 months of a has been who won’t be back next year?

    And don’t even get me started on the Prado trade.

    All of you who said that the Yankees ‘gave up nothing’ will rue the day when Solarte is an all star 2b for the padres, DePaula is pitching at the top of their rotation, and Obrien is leading the NL homeruns.

    • nyyankfan7

      I would predict you will “rue the day” you predicted Solarte to be an all-star and DePaula to be an ace but I’m willing to bet you make hundreds of dumber predictions between now and that time proves to be false.

    • Austinmac

      I agree they didn’t give up “nothing” as has been suggested, but don’t you think your forecasts are a bit over the top?

    • Jimmy

      Do yourself a favor and read your entire post over before hitting the “Post” button and think of how it reads to other readers. If you don’t like the guy, there’s no reason to call him names, just point out what he did wrong and how you would have done better.
      And your predictions are just a little bit overwrought, no?

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Is that name Icelandic? “Stickerinner” sounds Icelandic.

    • FIPster Doofus

      “Cashwoman”? How old are you, 10?

  • nyyankfan7

    Personally I think this post is a little premature. Have Prado and Drew been good offensively? No, but it’s been 40 plate appearances.

    And the last line of this post should be changed to say “Drew and Prado…and pretty much everyone not named Gardner, Betances and Robertson need to start producing for this team to make the playoffs.”

  • Bigdan

    As I pointed out at the time of the trade, trades for pure rentals like Headley can be extremely problematic. That is because unless the new player takes you to a place you where not likely to go without him, like the playoffs, then he’s gone next year while your trading partner reaps the benefits of what you gave up for the rental. For reasons I’ve laid out for months, a player like Solarte can very very valuable over the next several years, especially to a budget-conscious team like Hal’s Yankees. The functional exchange of Solarte for Prado and two months of Headley requires that Headley provide a significant offensive contribution over the next couple of seasons for this trade to work while Prado is paid $22MM and Solarte is paid $1MM. These two transactions have to potential to have positively awful ramifications over the next couple of years.

    Too bad about Headley because I like him as a player. As a relatively cheap, bottom of the order bat with a great glove, he could provide a lot value to the right team. Unfortunately it will not be the Yankees.

    • Kevin Wrong

      Cashman tries to put bubble gum on a leak in a sinking ship… that describes most of his trades

      • Pete22

        If that’s all you have,and the ship is sinking, then you use it. If it works, you survive. If not, you get to see the biggest bubble before you sink.

        • Frodo

          Problem is, once he makes it to shore, all he does is replace the old bubble gum with some new one he just got of his mouth. When he goes out again the ship is fine, sinks, and when he gets back to shore, he repeats the process all over again.

    • nsalem

      You seem to be saying that you know for a fact that Headley will not be a Yankee if the Yankee’s don”t make the playoffs in 2014. To me that seems presumptuous unless you know something that I and many other people here don’t know. What makes you so sure Headley won’t be a Yankee next year.

      • Bigdan

        Pure logic really. Either Headley plays well (like he has so far) or doesn’t the rest of the season. If he doesn’t, the Yanks won’t want him. If he does, the Yanks can’t afford him.

        If Headley plays well and hits the FA market, I imagine he’ll be in line for at least $10MM a year on a multi year deal. The Yanks simply don’t have the budget for that. They may not even be able to afford Drob next year. Moreover, the Yanks, by acquiring Prado, have basically told us what they plan to do next year. Arod is at 3b and Prado will fill in if Arod can’t stay on the field. That’s already possibly $30MM+ dedicated just to 3b. No way Hal adds $10MM more.

        Now if something happens to Arod between now and the offseason, Headley could be an option. Right now he is not.

        • Pete22

          Well said, thats it in a nut shell. The Yankees never traded for Headely with 2015 in mind. If Arod retires or gets suspended again (not an impossibility), then maybe he has a chance to stick, if he wants to, but only if he shows some life with the bat these 2 months.

        • Mandy Stankiewicz

          There’s 172 million on the books (thats everyone, including Arod) for 2015. The last 5 years we’ve had a payroll of 200-228 million. That’s anywhere between 30-50 million to fill in only a few positions. 50 million is more than the entire Astros team spends (44 million) on their club’s roster.

          But whats the point of counting the Yankees money when “there is absolutely no visibility into their true financial condition”

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Everything BigDan says stems from his one theory that applies to the entire Yankee universe. If you do not exist under that umbrella, you’re not being logical, not seeing the obvious, and are unable to do proper research. What sucks is that the umbrella, while it has a nice design on it which makes it look more expensive, is still a $1.99 umbrella.

    • TB

      The problem with the Prado trade is it pretty much ensures the Yankees wont bring back headley now… Prado will probably be the 3rd basemen now next season

      • Bigdan

        Yes.

      • Pete22

        Headley is a FA, they have to sign him. You really think he wants to fight Arod for a job at 3B, or even be in the same locker room as him? Headley himself said he never once considered NY as a place he would want to play. Maybe his 2 months here will reinforce his impression.

    • Pete22

      Its not their salary that has awful ramifications, its Hals ludicrous budget for the most prosperous and cash flush team in MLB history. Don’t put the cart before the horse. 22 million is chump change for the Yankees

      • Bigdan

        This reminds me of folks who look at a restaurant that just closed and say, “hey, I can’t believe they went out a business. It’s always so busy there.”

        Restaurant customers and baseball fans alike have virtually no visibility into the profitability of the enterprises they patronize.

        • Mandy Stankiewicz

          http://www.forbes.com/mlb-valuations/list/
          Revenue 461 million – 9 million in operating costs = 452 million profit in 2013. It really is that simple.

          • Bigdan

            You need to take another look at your link. According to that chart, the Yanks lost $9MM in 2013 so they had no profits at all.

            I don’t believe any of that stuff. Forbes is just guessing because there are no audited financial statements regarding Yankee operations available to the public or to anyone at Forbes. Since the Yanks are probably operating as a subsidiary or an affiliate of some holding company that itself is not even public, there is absolutely no visibility into their true financial condition. Which is just how all owners in all professional sports want to keep it.

      • runninonempty

        it may be chump change to the Yankees… Very Rich team indeed- but that does take away the embarrassment of what he is getting for his 500 million. Everyone makes money mistakes. The Tigers may regret that Verlander signing- and Texas signing of Prince, etc

  • Bigdan

    For all you sample size fans out there, once again:

    2014 OPS+

    Headley in 386 PAs: 92

    Prado in 476 PAs: 88

    Solarte in 375 PAs: 111

    • Frankie Cerveddardi

      Yeah, this is very telling. They’ve been cherry picking Solarte’s slumps as proof that he isn’t very good but if you look at the whole picture he’s been better than our recent pick ups. They also cherry pick Headley’s stats only picking out the good, not the bad.

      I’ll never understand these sabmetricians taking small samples sizes, making them smaller and using those as proof for their arguments.

      • Bigdan

        It is a very difficult proposition to predict major league performance and no question Solarte is a hard case. But I think we have enough data now to suggest he will have a major league career. How good he’ll be? Who knows? But it looks like he belongs. I personally believe he’ll hit about average. If I’m right, at his age and cost, he’s an extremely valuable piece to any franchise. He would have been very valuable to the Yankees the next couple of seasons. I’m pretty sure the Yanks can replace his production but at what cost, both in dollars and opportunity?

        Hal likes to refer to himself as “a finance guy.” Finance is predicated on understanding value. If Hal’s team is to be successful and once more compete for championships, it’s going to need to do a better job of understanding value.

        • Dick M

          I’m no DCA, but Solarte never passed the smell test with me. My baseball instinct tells me that the pitchers will figure him out eventually. His value, as I see it, was always as a utility guy. So I can’t get all worked up about it.

      • Pete22

        Solarte basically had 2 hot streaks that lasted a week that carried his overall numbers. Very streaky hitter, not unlike Soriano, albeit with a better approach and more plate discipline.

        I think he is a league average hitter who plays barely adequate defense. Such players have value but are not the stuff that builds a playoff team.

  • Pete22

    I disagree with the entire premise here. Both Headley and Drew contributed big hits that led to a couple of wins in the early going. Granted, over the last week as they faced the Tigers pitching and others and have not hit well, but neither has anyone else on the team.

    Maybe none of them hits a lick the rest of the way, but I don’t think 1-2 weeks is very predictive.

    Fans who do not appreciate baseballs history probably don’t know there are many cases where players have had much better final 2 months than the first 4 months.
    Of course, there are many more who hit the same or worse.

  • John Sudlow

    To paraphrase what the groundskeepers in “Major League” state in Japanese: “We shitty!”

  • kikojones

    Yes, the team needed/needs offense. But shoddy defense led to losing some games, no? So, these guys have made the team much better, if not incredibly much better. Right?