Reports: Yankees “likely” to retire Nos. 51 and 20 soon

Fan Confidence Poll: January 16th, 2015
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Over the weekend, word got out the Yankees are planning to retire No. 46 and honor Andy Pettitte with a plaque in Monument Park this August. According to both Mark Feinsand and Andrew Marchand, the team is also planning to honor Bernie Williams and Jorge Posada at some point and are “likely” to retire Nos. 51 and 20.

The Yankees retired Joe Torre’s No. 6 last year and also dedicated monuments to Tino Martinez, Paul O’Neill, and Goose Gossage. When they made those official announcements, the team said the “ceremonies are part of a recognition series that will include Bernie Williams in 2015,” so the Bernie news isn’t surprising. It’s unclear when Posada will be honored. Perhaps that won’t be until 2016.

Needless to say, both Williams and Posada are very deserving of having their numbers retired as homegrown star players, with Posada being a borderline Hall of Famer. (I’m not sure he’ll get in, but he has a case.) Both were key pieces of the most recent Yankees dynasty and all-around awesome players who helped create a generation of success for the franchise.

At some point soon the Yankees will retire No. 2 in honor of Derek Jeter. With Nos. 6 and 42 recently retired, Jeter, Pettitte, Bernie, and Posada are the team’s only obvious remaining candidates to have their numbers retired. (There’s zero chance No. 13 will be retired.) So while there are will be several ceremonies bunched together in the span of two or three years, they figure to be the last number retirement ceremonies for a while.

Fan Confidence Poll: January 16th, 2015
Previewing the Yanks' few Spring Training position battles
  • Christian Yaple

    Stop retiring numbers. Holy shit.

    • SweetSpot

      Why? Who doesn’t deserve it?

      • chris hines

        “Deserve” is a weird word in this case, I don’t know that anyone necessarily deserves to have their number retired. I understand the idea behind it, it’s a way to honor someone who meant a lot to a particular franchise but I think it’s gone a bit too far myself. Andy’s a great guy and was a really good pitcher but I wouldn’t say he deserves to have his number retired, I’m not taking pitch fork’s to the stadium because he is but if they gave Garrett Jones 46 this year I would have been completely OK with it.

        • SweetSpot

          Seriously? Andy Pettitte? He was a member of the Core Four, won five World Series championships with the Yankees, is MLB’s all-time post-season wins leader, is the Yankees all-time strikeout leader and he won the most games of any pitcher in the 2000’s.

          • chris hines

            He’s also had more opportunities than any pitcher in postseason history I believe, wins are a team stat and when talking postseason accrual it’s really based more on opportunity. His ERA and peripheral numbers are basically identical to his regular season numbers, he was no more or less of a player in the postseason than he was in the regular season.

            All time strikeout leader for the Yankees really just proves he was a Yankee longer than anyone else, he was never really a big time strikeout guy at 17.4% career so I don’t see what that counting stat has to do with anything.

            Again winning the most games in the 2000’s is a poor argument, he was on the greatest team of the 2000’s outside of 3 years with very good Astros teams that went to a World Series. Again wins are a team stat so I’m not sure why we are still using them in this day and age to try and argue a pitchers greatness.

            “Core Four” is just a media driven term, I’m arguing against any of those players being very good to great but why does that mean he DESERVES to have his number retired. Ticket sells would be as good an argument as being in a media nicknamed grouping of players.

            He was a very good player but he’s not a hall of famer and you could argue his best season ever was actually as an Astro in 05. If they want to retire it fine but deserves is too strong of a word to me.

            • SweetSpot

              Since when does someone get recognition for opportunities? Or be judged or not by them? Many when afforded an opportunity fail; Pettitte did the opposite, he succeeded. Lot’s of hitters get many at bats and fail. Lots of pitchers throw a bunch of innings and fail. Pettitte had a special DNA along with his talent. Without going into all you wrote suffice it to say I totally disagree on your take on his post-season performance, wins, longevity and strikeouts. I never mentioned the Hall of Fame; that is not a criteria for having your number retired. Clearly the Yankee organization and the great majority of fans will see it the way I do. You certainly have the right to your opinion.

      • Christian Yaple

        Give ’em some other memorial, but retiring so many numbers is just ridiculous. They can live in Yankee immortality without disallowing a number to be worn.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I agree with sweetspot, who of Bernie, Posada, or Pettitte doesn’t deserve to have their number retired? All three are at least borderline HOF guys with 4 or more World Series rings and helped lead one of the greatest dynasties in sports history…while remaining (for the most part) on the same team that drafted and developed them.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      You know, they are the most storied franchise in baseball history with more than double the number of championships as the next franchise, so it only makes sense that they have far and away the most retired numbers of all MLB franchises.

    • Moose on the Loose

      It’s not like 2, 20, 46, or 51 would be worn anyway. There’s still 78 numbers left after them.

      • TheEvilUmpire

        I’m looking forward to no-named minor leaguers with 3-digits emblazoned on their backs in spring training!

        • Moose on the Loose

          The Yankees, where you can wear your batting average on your back!

          • TheEvilUmpire

            Hey maybe in a millennium or two, they’ll be wearing their social security numbers!

  • Wonald

    What about O’Neill’s 21? They don’t give it out so they might as well.

    • LazerTown

      No.

      • Wonald

        Maybe

        • LazerTown

          You don’t retire numbers just because. He had a good career, but no, he is not deserving of number retirement.

          • Wonald

            I know. I don’t even think they should. But why bother not giving it out if it’s not retired?

            • LazerTown

              Because you can respect someone by not giving out their number for awhile. Retirement is getting rid of the number forever. Paul was good, they can keep it out of circulation for maybe 20 years, but eventually it’s something that should come back in circulation.

    • Jacques.

      LaTroy Hawkins briefly wore #21 in the past , so I don’t think the team will retire that

      • Wonald

        But he quickly changed it when the fans booed him

        • Mr. Furious

          That was ridiculous, and entirely the team’s fault. They need to poo or get off the pot, to paraphrase the old saying. Either issue it and send the message to the fans that it’s a number that’s in circulation regardless of how much they boo, or actually retire it.

          I loved Paulie – even back when he was with the Reds – but the former is the more appropriate course of action.

          • Wonald

            That’s exactly what I’m saying. It’s basically retired, just not officially. Pick one or the other.

            • Rick

              I could see retiring it 15-20 years from now if he remains a staple in the broadcast booth.

        • Jacques.

          Yeah, even though the fans may want it retired, the management is ready to move on; it has been 14 years already. As much as I love O’Neill, from a neutral point-of-view I don’t think it should be retired

      • TheEvilUmpire

        They could double-retire it, like #8. On a related topic, I bet I’d make a killing selling rotten vegetables outside the stadium if LaTroy Hawkins had the nerve to show up for that ceremony!

    • Moose on the Loose

      Give it to Moncada!

      • Wonald

        Solid chirp

  • Frittoman626

    While most might be questioning why the Yankees are retiring so many numbers now, the fact is those players deserve it. Yeah they might not be HOFers or even the best of their generation, but the work these guys put in helped us win 5 championships. These guys are true Yankees.

  • Y’s Guy

    George let this retired # thing get so out of hand that it’s probably not fixable at this point. #’s 1, 6, 9, 10, 23, 32 and 37 should not be retired, imo and they need to give credit to guys more deserving who don’t have #’s retired just because in their day #s were changed regularly. It’s probably not saveable at this point, not unlike the HoF. (I know 6 is not retired yet, save the typing…)

    • mitch

      What would your criteria be if you could reset things? HOFers only?

      • Y’s Guy

        well, first off, you’d have to add the HoF’ers who don’t have their #s retired before adding non-hof players, just for starters. Also, retiring #’s for managers is just stupid.

        • mitch

          I agree that some of the numbers shouldn’t have been retired. However, I think Bernie and Posada are both worthy….near-HOFers who play their entire career with the same team are in a pretty select group

          • Y’s Guy

            again, if we retire #’s for the HoF players who haven’t had theirs retired, plus bernie, pettitte, po, oneill, tino you’ve just got waaaay too many retired #’s. But as I say, it’s not probably savable at this point.

            • Rick

              Tino won’t have his number retired – there’s no reason to retire it.

              • Y’s Guy

                Ok but add Lazzeri, Combs, Pennock, Waite Hoyt and Lefty Gomez who are all HoF’ers before you add O’neill, Bernie, Pettitte, & Posada who are not (at this point at least).

                • Rick

                  Oh believe me, I agree with you that too many numbers are retired right now. I certainly see your point on several that you mentioned above.

      • Tom_hamsandwich

        How about JUST HOFer’s who go into the Hall with Yankee emblems on their hats.

        • chris hines

          So Clemens in 15 years?

          *ducks*

    • pfoj

      32 is a tough one to argue against considering what Howard meant to the Yankees integrating the team. I’d also say #44 should be added to the list of numbers they shouldn’t have retired.

    • Rick

      Ummm, 6 is retired. I could hear your case on why 9, 23, and 32 shouldn’t be retired. It appears you don’t believe managers should have their numbers retired.

      • Y’s Guy

        somone needs to tell the Yankees that #6 is retired, although you could solve one major ommission by retiring it for Tony Lazzeri.

        • Rick

          I don’t get at all why you think 6 isn’t retired – the Yankees had a major ceremony on August 23, 2014 retiring it. I also think 10 should be retired – his impact ran much deeper than his playing days.

          • Y’s Guy

            well, then I stand corrected although yankees.mlb..com does not list #6 as retired. Retiring it for Torre is ridiculous, imo

            • Rick

              That’s prob worth an email to the Yankees media/marketing team.

  • Alex Reddardriguez

    This is the way it should be. Bernie, Jorgie, Mariano, Jeter, Andy, Mariano should all get their #s retired. Jeter and Mariano get monuments, the rest plaques. I’d retire Paulie O’Neill’s number too because of how special he was as a player and now as a broadcaster.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      Eddard, I’ll see you at Eduardo Nunez day in about a decade!

  • Dalek Jeter

    Obviously the BBWAA disagrees with me, but I think Bernie was a borderline HOF too, he just got super unlucky when it came to his first ballot.

    • LazerTown

      If you go by career fWAR 44.3, that is very borderline at best. Oftentimes the borderline players are up around 65. Mussina is up at 82.5 and he struggling to get in. Obviously Bernie’s WS rings help, but don’t think to that level.

  • IVoted4Kodos

    The real question is when do the Yankees get their act together and retire Clay Bellinger’s number?

    • Dalek Jeter

      Jeff Karstens or we riot!!

    • TheEvilUmpire

      Not before they retire Luis Sojo! That guy had grit!

      • Dalek Jeter

        A combined plaque for Sojo, Nix, and all the other GRITTY BALLPLAYERS!

        • IVoted4Kodos

          Made out of dirt of course.

        • pfoj

          I’ve been saying it for years, but you can’t tell me they wouldn’t get a sell out for Nineties Dynasty Yankee Role Player Day. I’d be there in a heartbeat to honor Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd, Clay Bellinger, Gerald Williams, Luis Sojo, et cetera.

          Pretty much everyone besides Chad Curtis.

          • Dalek Jeter

            I’d go. Then again, I’d go to any Yankee game.

            • pfoj

              Yankee Stadium is like a six hour round trip for me, but I’d be there in a heartbeat to give a standing ovation to Chili Davis.

          • IVoted4Kodos

            Graham Lloyd should be honored if only for the haymakers he threw out of the bullpen during the Benitez brawl.

            That crazy Aussie has a spot on my team any day.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Dude, the one that actually landed…I’m surprised he didn’t break Benitez’s jaw.

              • TheEvilUmpire

                If only he did break Benitez’s jaw… then maybe we wouldn’t have had to endure his implosions for the 3 weeks we traded for him a few years later.

              • IVoted4Kodos

                I generally don’t wish injury on other players, but given how much I despise Benitez, I wish he had broken his jaw in several places. Liquid diet for months broken.

            • pfoj

              The best part about that video on youtube is either Lloyd sprinting out of the bullpen for the crazy haymaker, or just Strawberry losing it in general.

              The worst is that it cuts off before Tim Raines hit the next pitch after the brawl out.

              • IVoted4Kodos

                Agree with all of this. Good stuff!

          • TheEvilUmpire

            Chad Curtis gets honored from behind by his cellmate three times a day.

      • IVoted4Kodos

        I will always remember him for the time he fell in a playoff game against the A’s when he stepped on his glove and for this rocket of a hit:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjiBb9yK_VI

        • pfoj

          I’d like to form the Committee to Recognize How Great Jorge’s At Bat In This Inning Was. I’m still working on the name, but with two out, no one on, against an excellent pitcher, Jorge falls behind 1-2, then works back and eventually walks on the tenth pitch of the plate appearance. Four pitches later the Yankees lead.

          I mean, O’Neill’s walk in Game 1 against Benitez is the stuff of legend and Jorge’s is completely forgotten and that’s not fair.

  • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

    (There’s zero chance No. 13 will be retired.)

    Well, it could be 0.0000000000000001%. Anything better than zero would make me happy.

    • Dalek Jeter

      You’re just feeding the troll in me who seriously wants him to go full WWE heel, crash one of these ceremonies and grab the mic, and go into a diatribe about how he’s the best Yankee since Ruth and deserves to have his number retired and a plaque while he’s still playing.

      • Centaur Hips

        “Jeter Imma let you finish, but I’m the greatest player from the 2000s Yankees.”

        • IVoted4Kodos

          Well played.

          • Centaur Hips

            Same to you.

      • IVoted4Kodos

        “I’ma let you finish, but my 2007 season was the greatest by a right handed hitter in Yankees history.”

      • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        I am the leader of the Retire No. 13 Club, which doesn’t exist. :) I’ll happily troll.

        • Centaur Hips

          We need to the campaign going for “Arod to Monument Park”

          • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

            How do you suggest we do it? Protest on 161st Street and River Avenue?

            • Centaur Hips

              Well we could threaten to sue the Yanks, oh wait…

              • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

                We don’t have that kind of money or pro bono attorneys.

          • TheEvilUmpire

            No way man, Arod gets his own Monument Park, plus a museum and 3 memorabilia stands.

      • chris hines

        Career .291/.386/.534 with 309 HRs in just his 10 years with the Yankees he’d have a point.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Exactly. Much like CM Punk calling himself the best wrestler in the world, or Kanye saying Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time when she lost to T-Swift. It’s not that heels/trolls are always wrong. They can be right, they’re just absolute dickbags about it.

          • chris hines

            Well Punk was never close to the best wrestling in North America let alone the world but I’ll save it for an open thread.

          • pfoj

            “You’re not wrong, Walter, you’re just an asshole.”

      • bernbabybern

        You mean full Kanye West?

      • cashmoney

        I could see David Wells doing that literally.

    • bernbabybern

      Yanks cut a deal to retire Arod’s number if he retires before the last year of his contract. ..

      • TheEvilUmpire

        Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez: He saved us a shitload of cash!

  • The Great Gonzo

    So yeah. I loved Andy as a Yankee and Bernie/Jorge were great Yankees as well, so please take this in the spirit it was intended… but we are aiming towards a trajectory that will have our grandchildren seeing players with three-digit uniforms or special characters. Like, Mariano Rivera III will make his debut wearing pi or some shit.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I see no problem with this. That would be hilarious.

      • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        It would be really hilarious. Also, for those who complain about this, think about it. There are not going to be a streak like this for a while, so it’s just a stretch where we axe a bunch. The next dynasty will have it too someday.

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      No. 3.42, Mariano Rivera III.

    • Guest

      “Now batting number 3.14159265359, Mariano Rivera the third, number 3.14159265359

      • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        3.14 would suffice, cause its hard to fit that, much like the name SALTALAMACCHIA.

    • IVoted4Kodos

      You say this like it wouldn’t be the greatest thing ever.

      “Now batting, number 103 1/4, Derek Jeter Junior.”

      Retire everyone’s number or Cash failed!

      • TheEvilUmpire

        Derek Jeter, playah extraordinaire, can’t be held back by kids!

      • The Great Gonzo

        This has the potential to play out like a Key & Peele skit. I like it

  • chris hines

    I think Posada’s defense eliminates him from the HOF discussion, he severely hurt the team with his defense behind the plate his entire career. He was a glorified 1B crouching behind the plate and his numbers at 1B would’ve been just OK.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      You’ve been reading all that pitch framing propaganda, haven’t you?

      • chris hines

        No I’ve openly hated Posada his entire career. He was awful at blocking balls in the dirt, he was clunky behind the plate, he was openly obvious at catching balls before I ever saw data on the subject, and if a pitcher had the nerve to want to call his own game instead of just following Posada’s lead in finger selection he threw a hissy fit about it. There’s a reason almost every year of his career certain pitchers wanted to work exclusively with the backup instead of him.

        • TheEvilUmpire

          I do agree with your defensive assessment of Jorge, he was god-awful to watch in the field all those years and yes, he could be a bit of a hot-headed jerk. Even my idol Don Mattingly had a reputation of being a bit surly during his playing career. You’ve got me wondering though, how would the team have been different if they switched Jorge to 1b when Tino left, signed a defense-first catcher instead of Giambi, and spread the rest of the money around?

          • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

            at the time there was no “spread the money around” – they just spent as much money as it took.

            and it would have looked about as awful as it did last year when McCann played 1st base – only it would have looked that bad for 5 or 6 years.

            • TheEvilUmpire

              Jason Giambi was no gold glover himself.

            • chris hines

              Giambi was a god awful first baseman I don’t think Posada could have been worse, the argument would start with how much better Posada’s replacement was behind the plate and what offense was being provided.

              Though ultimately I think Posada wouldn’t have let it happen, he would in very Posada like fashion throw a tantrum about it and voided any thought of being moved.

              • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

                Yes Posada could have been worse – see how bad McCann was last year and wait until you see how bad ARod is this year. You can’t just throw anybody on 1st and assume they won’t be a liability.

                • TheEvilUmpire

                  but… but… but… the pitch framing!

                • chris hines

                  I think he would’ve been bad but he was already a god awful catcher so at least moving him to first would have lessened his overall negative impact on the team defensively. Plus Giambi was one of the worst first baseman I’ve ever seen so we we’re already dealing with a conversation starting at the very bottom of the league at that position on defense.

                  • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

                    So this whole argument is based on the “Chris Hines” eye test

    • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

      He severely hurt the team by being the starting catcher for 4 World Series winning teams…..interesting take.

      • chris hines

        Oh I forgot you can’t start for a World Series team and have any weaknesses, it’s not a team sport or anything.

        • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

          Never said it wasn’t a weakness; but I do highly debate the fact that he “severely hurt the team”. Bernie Williams arm in CF was a weakness as well and Jeter’s suspect defense at SS was a weakness but I don’t see you criticizing either of them. Was Posada the best defensive catcher in the league? Hell no – but if you take Chris Stewart or some other all defense no bat catcher and put him on all those WS winning teams in Posada’s spot I’m not convinced they are still WS winning teams.

          • chris hines

            I think Jeter was an awful defensive SS and I’ve taken him to task for it on countless times, that said I don’t think he was consistently as awful at short as Posada behind the plate. At least when he was young he was an adequate short stop and his bat ranks higher in the all time short stop list than Posada on the all time catcher list.

            Bernie was a very solid defense center fielder most of his career, weak arm or not he had the rest of the package, he was no where near as bad defensively for his career in the outfield as Posada. Now Bernie’s last two years in pinstripes were god awful to watch, he had no business playing CF anymore and I think everyone knew it but just didn’t know how to address it. I actually think that hurts his legacy some since the last memory of Bernie for most people in the field was him being completely helpless in every way.

            I’m not going to argue the Yankees would or wouldn’t have done something in the past by changing roles around, it’s a pointless argument, but I think it’s an unarguable fact that Posada cost his team runs being behind the plate not saved them runs or graded out neutral. By that definition alone he severely hurt his team defensively, which is exactly what I said. Now did he make up for that with his bat, it’s very possible he did, did he make up for by so much that you couldn’t have been a better team with a better defensive catcher with less offense? It’s a debatable point.

    • pfoj
      • IVoted4Kodos

        I will never get tired of his reaction while standing on second base.

        • pfoj

          I’ll never get tired of watching the video and hearing the reaction of the crowd. Unreal. Last great moment in the Old Stadium.

      • chris hines

        Your counter argument for a career worth of awful defense behind the plate is a bloop single? That seems… interesting.

        • IVoted4Kodos

          It was a bloop double, thank you very much.

          • pfoj

            I’m fairly certain that taking the unoccupied second base there was the only good baserunning decision of Jorge’s career.

            • IVoted4Kodos

              By a wide margin.

          • chris hines

            Was it ruled a double or a single with a the runner advancing?

            • Dalek Jeter

              Double according to the box score on B-ref

        • pfoj

          I’m not going to waste my time explaining why a catcher who hits .283/.386/.492 over a ten year stretch was valuable, so I’ll just let that suffice.

          • chris hines

            I don’t believe I ever said anything about his offense or called him not valuable, I simply said he’s not a hall of famer because despite his very good offense (123 wRC+ career if we’re quantifying it more accurately) because he was hurting the team a severe degree every time he took the field. I swear nuance is lost on this blog, you are either black or white and if you disagree with someone you’re an idiot.

      • Centaur Hips
        • pfoj

          I think I’m alone here, but I sort of love Joe Buck. Every single big moment he called for the Yankees is perfectly done.

          “Boone a hero in Game 7.” Then ten minutes of silence. Tremendous.

          • Dalek Jeter

            I think he was just upset about it and couldn’t say anything nice.

          • Game 3

            He’s horrible.

        • Dalek Jeter

          I’m trying to rationalize why I shouldn’t watch this entire video. I’m not coming up with many good reasons.

          • pfoj

            I watched the whole thing like a year ago, so it’s probably too soon for me, but I’ll recommend it. The best part is seeing 2003 Mo, where he didn’t have to be crafty or anything. He still had the velocity to blow fastballs past everyone he wanted to and he uses it.

        • chris hines

          Retire Boonies number!!!!!

        • Centaur Hips

          What goes unnoticed is this would have been a 2 and a half hour game if it didn’t reach extras and no commercials.

          • pfoj

            Even more impressive when you consider that FOX spent one hour and twenty five minutes showing “HIS FATHER IS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY!” commercials that night.

    • Wave Your Hat

      I guess you are starting the Brad Ausmus for HOF pressure group. If you are going to throw pitch framing into the mix (which you are if you are going to use arguments like “severely hurt”), you can’t keep Ausmus out, on pitch framing numbers he was more valuable than Albert Pujols.

      I’m personally not ready to go there yet, but if you want to lead the charge I’m willing to watch.

      • TheEvilUmpire

        If only Jorge Posada and Brad Ausmus could have a love child…

    • Dalek Jeter

      It’s really interesting to see what fans’ hot button issues are. Like, you’re a seemingly normal, level-headed, commenter who generally has very sound, informed/informative posts…but you have a spot of fury for Posada because he was sort of a dick and was bad defensively.

      • chris hines

        I dislike him but I don’t care enough about the man to have fury for him. I also don’t see anything not level headed about saying Posada was a god awful catcher, which isn’t up for debate, and that’s what’s going to keep him out of the HOF which I’ve seen HOF voters say before.

  • Bobbi

    At some point, they might have to figure out a way to unretire some numbers. Keep the numbers in monument park, and keep the plaques and the monuments and lists of numbers, but they’re going to have to call them something else, and they’re going to have to figure out a way to reissue the numbers without causing an uproar At some point, not in the near future, and not all the numbers, but some of the fringy ones should have an expiration date (50 years? 35 years?).

    • cashmoney

      much ado with little, if this subject to future yankees fans rooting for double digits so be it. or you could amortize them, but seems to be more trouble than worth.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      Maybe they can come up with some kind of licensing agreement, where the player who gets the number pays some kind of royalty to the estate of the retired player?

  • Centaur Hips

    The only question now is what will Moncada’s plaque read?

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      “Demanded highly by fans of River Avenue Blues.com, Moncada was one of the greatest busts in the history of the Yankees. His numbers were so dreadful, that he deserved a spot in Monument Park like Ripley’s Believe it or Not. He spent eight years on the Yankees, making fans boos him on a regular basis as he jogged out for ground balls that went past him, booing back at fans who insulted him. He also managed to break the skull of Vinny by accident because of an errant throw from right field.”

      • IVoted4Kodos

        “He made Kei Igawa look like a wise investment.”

    • IVoted4Kodos

      “Yoan Moncada: Cuban deliciousness.”

      It will then have the picture of him in the white compression shirt that keeps circulating.

    • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

      According to everyone here it will include him wearing number 4798 because apparently the Yankees now retire too many numbers – God help us if it turns into the “they hit too many homeruns” mantra

    • pfoj

      I think it will just be a bronzed image of his abs.

    • chris hines

      “#Cashmanfailed” when it’s installed on the seats of the Green Monster.

    • cashmoney

      He came, saw and conquer?

  • FriarFlyer

    #s 1, 9, ,23, 44, 49 could’ve ben skipped on retired list, probably #10 too

    • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

      why? because you aren’t old enough to remember how fucking great those players were?

      • Rick

        I think you could make a strong case for a good amount of those as to why they shouldn’t be retired.

        • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

          And I can make an equally strong case as to why they are and should be retired.

          • Rick

            The arguments against are much more compelling. Especially in the cases of Maris, Martin and Jackson. I love Donnie as much as the next guy, but Preston nailed it. Guidry I don’t have a problem with.

            • FriarFlyer

              Agree the arguments against are more compelling, plaques, monuments, statutes would be more appropriate than #s retired and we haven’t dealt with #s 10 and 32

      • Preston

        The argument would be that Reggie and Maris didn’t play in pin stripes long enough. Mattingly and Guidry were only great for a short period, and Billy Martin wasn’t really great at all, and is more retired because of his tragic end and his (volatile) friendship with George.

        • cashmoney

          guidry’s body of work is consistent enough to me. But I don’t really care that much about retire numbers.

      • LazerTown

        Why do we retire Billy Martin? He had little playing career, and 556 wins as Yankees manager. Maris had like 2-3 really good years with the Yankees and that’s it. Guidry and Mattingly you could debate. Reggie was great in the postseason, but cmon, he was here 5 years, the last of which he was pretty bad.

        • TheEvilUmpire

          Billy Martin holds the career record for number of times fired as manager by a single professional sports franchise! BOOM!

        • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

          Roger Maris broke the greatest record in baseball and held hit for almost 40 years. I know it does not seem important to anybody today but the home run record was THE GREATEST RECORD in sports. Better than Chamberlain’s 100 points in a game and better than any football record. The news world used to come to a stop when somebody was on pace to catch Maris. Now thanks to PED’s and the media’s endless onslaught of all baseball players being roiders nobody can even remember how many Bonds hit. Is Maris a MLB HOF’er? No – but he damn well deserves a spot in Yankee lore.

          Reggie Jackson? C’mon – seriously? It doesn’t matter how long he played, he was a Yankee and a damn good one. He accumulated 20+ WAR in his short time with the Yankees.

          Guidry and Mattingly? Monument Park isn’t the HOF – these guys were great Yankees and in Mattingly’s case the face of the Franchise.

          Billy Martin? I can’t answer because I’m not sold his should be but I wasn’t alive to remember him as a player and never cared for him as a manager. He was a guy whose name was better than his actual playing / managing skills.

          • Dalek Jeter

            Sure, Marris deserves a spot in Yankee lore. A plaque, maybe even a statue, but anything more than that is a little overkill.

            • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

              Well I disagree and I’m glad the Yankees do as well.

              • Preston

                You think he deserves more than a statue? What else is there? Should we name the stadium for him?

                • chris hines

                  The New York Maris’

                • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

                  We could name a staircase, let it be abandoned then use city funding to restore it.

                • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

                  No I think he deserves what he got. A plaque and his number retired.

            • Wave Your Hat

              Roger’s number deserves to be retired. One famous thing is good enough, if the famous thing is hard enough to accomplish and is sufficiently famous. Hard to argue with the man who broke Babe Ruth’s single season HR record.

        • bernbabybern

          Martin deserves it for putting up with George.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            So we should retire Jim Beattie’s number?

      • FriarFlyer

        Actually saw them all…#1 was a Boss overreaction to his devotion to Billy Martin. The guy won ONE WS…similar over devoted sentimentality for Mattingly and Guidry… Reggie played only 5 seasons, another overreaction.

        • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

          “over devoted sentimentality” which is why the belong in the Yankees Hall of Fame and not in the MLB HOF. These guys were great Yankees, meant a lot to the fans and therefore deserve to be remembered by the team. It’s not a question of how amazing their career is – that’s the MLB HOF job. The team remembers players who were important to the franchise and everyone on that list was very important to the franchise in one way shape or form.

          • Dalek Jeter

            You can remember guys without retiring their numbers is the entire thing here. Plaques on the wall, bronze busts, whatever, but the argument here (at least from most people) is that only the cream of the crop, the Jeter’s, the Mo’s, The Berra’s should have their number taken out of circulation.

            • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

              I don’t disagree with that but I do disagree on who belongs in the “cream of the crop” discussion.

            • Preston

              The argument is a practical one. Eventually you have to stop retiring numbers. Because players need to wear one. We’re a long way away from that being an actual problem. But I personally hope the Yankees are around for another 114 years. So they should probably be keeping that in mind.

              • The Shanesaw

                It’s only a matter of time before number 100

                • Preston

                  Going to be 66 players in camp this ST. We’re still another couple of dynasty eras away from making that necessary.

                  • cashmoney

                    I trust all of us be dead before this becomes a problem. Fortunately, there are numbers after 100.

                    • Moncada’s Codpiece

                      WHAT!? I thought it was just dragons all the way down at that point!

                  • The Shanesaw

                    Holy shit. Forgot that so many people go to spring training. Gonna run out.

              • Wave Your Hat

                Let’s worry about that 50 years from now.

                • Preston

                  I’m not worried about it. But it would sure be awkward to unretire a number. It could be a new way to capitalize on the history. They could have an unretireing ceremony where the player or a relative/descendant comes back and gives the number to a current player they deem worthy.

                  • Wave Your Hat

                    It’s silly, at least to me, to discuss “unretiring” a number when it won’t even conceivably be necessary for another 75 years.

        • The Shanesaw

          You know you are a a Yankees fan when one world series win is not enough to retire the number

          • Game 3

            So they should retire Swisher and Burnett’s #’s too? Melky? Who else? Don’t forget A-Rod.

        • bringbackthebullpencar

          I agree.. Billy Martin no way..Reggie no way.. half of the Yankee fans hated him..Maris..come on ..having the hr record should not mean your immortal…same for Guidry and Mattingly. Remember.. they would hold these special days when attendance was down and it was a way to fill up the house..

  • Monterocouldstillbedinero

    Boy there is going to be sadness here if we don’t sign Moncada…the likes of which we haven’t seen since….

    • TheEvilUmpire

      ….Montero was traded to Seattle, where he now more infamous for his ice cream sandwich habit than his hitting prowess…

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      ….they didn’t sign Scott Hairston?

  • Tony Wilson

    Glad to see “51” will likely be retired, he seems to be an often forgotten key piece to the last dynasty in baseball.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      “51” sounds like a great title for a baseball movie.

      • Tony Wilson

        Yeah it does have that feel.

      • chris hines

        Or a Music documentary.

        • TheEvilUmpire

          Why not both? It seems like Bernie is living an awesome life, on his own terms!

          • Game 3

            But not playing awesome music.

            • TheEvilUmpire

              That’s the thing though, he’s playing HIS music.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      The Giants have scheduled a ceremony to burn Brian Wilson’s beard, no word on whether is is going to be given the option to shave it off beforehand…

  • Greggreen

    and can we please give someone number 21 and keep giving the number away until the crowd stops chanting o’neill. (loved o’neill but enough is enough)

    • FriarFlyer

      #21 should go to the next phenom whether it be Judge, Severing, Sánchez or Moncada and done so with O’Neill’s acknowledgement to spare the player abuse from fans ala Lately Hawkins short stay in #21

  • The Shanesaw

    Retire all deh numbahs

  • ScottinSJ

    I think there’s a compelling argument for retiring Colter Bean’s #58.

  • cashmoney

    99 would be my number. I actually was 2 and playing ss in mlb 14, but my friend accuse me of blasphemy. 99 has a nice ring to it.

  • Danny Aiello Jr.

    Chuck Knoblauch is not impressed with retired numbers. Quite the angry little fella

    • Moncada’s Codpiece

      Maybe if he were worth having his retired, he’d sing a different tune.

      But nobody asked him. Nobody ever asks him. Because nobody cares.

      • Danny Aiello Jr.

        Oh HE CARES. ITS STILL REAL TO HIM DAMNIT

      • Danny Aiello Jr.

        Side note: I remember his awful throwing, but the only memory I have of him is when he was arguing with the first base umpire instead of retrieving the ball as everyone kept running. That speaks volumes. It also is kind of sad.

        • Moncada’s Codpiece

          He definitely had talent and I was pumped when he got on the team, but boy was it nice to see him go.

          • Preston

            Yeah, anytime you acquire a guy who was an All Star, won the Silver Slugger and Gold Glove the year before and is entering his age 29 season you have to be pretty psyched. The HGH definitely didn’t help him age well though.

      • Preston

        Knoblauch was good, and worthy of being honored for his play. Just not with the Yankees. The Twins were planning on doing it. Then he got arrested for bashing his ex-wife’s head into a wall and they revoked the honor. So he’s bitter about that. And he’s bitter against Pettitte because of the Clemens testimony “misremember” that kind of left him out to dry. But nobody cares because he’s the kind of awful guy that bashes his ex-wifes head into the wall. So fuck him.

        • Moncada’s Codpiece

          Verily. Fuck him.

  • BD11

    I love all these guys but I personally am not a fan of retiring #s. Is Jeter any less of a legend if he is in the HOF, plaques of his face all over Yankee Universe, but some joe schmo wears #2 later on? No.

    I mean in 30 years there won’t be any #s left. Now batting, #183, Yoan Moncada, Jr…. Jr….

  • ÅndyInSunnyDB

    Saving #21 for someday in the future when the Yankees need a sell-out

  • HoopDreams

    I hope the tradition of giving Canos number to average/below average players continues

  • ScottinSJ

    The Yankees need to market their numbers with corporate sponsorships. I foresee the following type of player introduction: “Now batting for the Yankees, #31, John Doe, brought to you by Baskin Robbins and its rainbow of 31 flavors.” Imagine the revenue-generating possibilities.

    • Moncada’s Codpiece

      I wore 69 on my high school football team. That would’ve been fun.

      • cashmoney

        Brought you by Cinemax late night..flavor of its time.

      • Sir Didi Odell Nakamura Jr

        I think Brock Lesnar wore 69 while briefly in the NFL.

        • ropeadope1

          He is Brock Lesnar.

          • Sir Didi Odell Nakamura Jr

            oh my god

          • HoopDreams

            Bigdan, say something stupid

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    I can’t imagine a world in which Yankee fans don’t have something to whine about concerning Bernie Williams.

    • ropeadope1

      Just wait until the Red Sox sign Moncada.

    • Tony Wilson

      Don’t think anyone is whining, many fans wonder why it seems (right or wrong) that he is often overlooked when discussing the last Yankee dynasty.

      • Preston

        I’m willing to bet the Yankees would love for Bernie Williams to come to the stadium as often as possible to tip his hat to the crowd and remind fans of the dynasty. I don’t think he’s left out when the Yankees do things like this. I think he has other things he’d rather be doing. Good for him.

        • Tony Wilson

          Not disagreeing, just stating the many questions I’ve fielded personally from fellow Yankee fans and read in regards to Bernie. Me personally, I believe he was just as important as the other key cogs to those dynamic teams.

          • Preston

            Everybody thinks that, and apparently the Yankees think that too since they’re giving him a plaque and retiring his number, which short of a monument, is the biggest honor the team can bestow (I wonder if Jeter gets a monument). So any perceived slight that fans seem to think Bernie is getting isn’t actually there.

            • Tony Wilson

              I agree with the premise that he would rather be doing other things such as his music, I don’t think he wants the fanfare and chooses to stay to himself and in some strange way gets perceived as a slight by the team.

              • Andy Frobig

                Actually he’s shown up more recently, he was at Jeter’s last home game for example, and the last game in the old Stadium. I think in the beginning he was still hurt that the Yankees made such a feeble attempt to keep him on board after his contract ended. If I were he, I might also be a little insulted that Tino and O’Neill were recognized before I was, as great as they both were. I think his quiet demeanor hides a lot of pride.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I’ve never thought he’s been overlooked in the least.

        • Tony Wilson

          A lot of people do, I think true fans know and understand his place in Yankee history.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            I also think true fans watch enough celebrations to have seen him out there in centerfield playing his music, being brought in for others’ celebrations, and know that his time will eventually come.

        • Tony Wilson

          Off topic for a bit, how do you think the fan base will react when/if Moncada doesn’t sign with the Yanks?

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            I don’t think 3/4 of the Yankee fanbase have even more than the faintest passing knowledge of who Yoan Moncada even is.

        • Andy Frobig

          I don’t whine, I holler. Bernie didn’t even get a one-year contract, let alone a year-long retirement party, he got a spring training invite. If he had stopped switch hitting, he may have prolonged his career by more than one year. Sure, his refusal to say “I’m retired” has turned into a thing, but he’s been on and off the HOF ballot already. He was a very effective player from both sides of the ball for a long time, and he’s the only player who was a Yankee before Gene Michael built his dynasty, who was an important part of the dynasty. He was the foundation that the various trades, free agent signings and promotions were built on. The team treats him like he’s Ramiro Mendoza or David Weathers half the time. He was certainly a more important part of the team than Tino, and I love Tino. Certainly his number belongs on the wall more than 1 (for Billy at least, the case for Combs is pretty good), 9 or 44.

  • Kentucky Bomber

    The whole retired number thing has valid arguments on both side. I remember Whitey Ford saying when his was retired that he thought it should be 3,4,5,and 7 and that’s all. That ignores Yogi, as well as himself. But I have a KC buddy who gives me grief about all our retirees. KC has 3 retired numbers and 1 WS win. Equivalency would have roughly 75 retired Yankee numbers. The problem I have with all the numbers retired since Yogi and Dickey in 1972 is that they’re all Steinbrenner-centric. The is a skewed view of Yankees history that it began in 1973, when 20 championships were already in the bag. I would personally have preferred 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and a wall of honor that denoted memorable players by their uni number without retirement. Of course, 2 gets added. But if you retire those post-1972 numbers, where are the retirement honors for Gomez, Ruffing, Bauer, Henrich, Pennock, and on and on. If George owned the team that won 5 consecutive Series wouldn’t we see equivalent honors for the guys who were there for all 5? Woodling, Mize, Raschi, Reynolds, Lopat. Silvera, too. Now my own personal peeve: why doesn’t Hank Bauer have at least a plaque in MP? Regular RF for 10 years, 8 rings (EIGHT!), longest hitting streak in WS history…nothing.

    • cashmoney

      It’s difficult to establish a base for an argument when the nyy never even set concrete qualifiers for grounds of debate.

      • Kentucky Bomber

        Valid point. Why does Houston have something like a dozen retired numbers? Because Jim Umbricht died, Nolan Ryan was a Texan, Mike Scott had a couple of really good years and so on. Biggio is the only player to go in the HOF with an Astro hat, pretty amazing for a team playing since 1962. And only Seaver wears a Mets hat.

      • Preston

        What’s the argument for Bernie Williams over Earl Combs? http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2014&month=0&season1=1871&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=857,1002478 and they both won 3 WS. The answer is that Bernie is more relevant to the current Yankees. Not many are alive to beat the drum for Earl. But if retired numbers and plaques are going to be a history of the team, they should value the whole history equally.

        • cashmoney

          my point, we can blow a gasket on who is in or not, because this clearly not measured by any scientific metholog behind it, nor have the Yankees validate as such. Its arbitrary at best, hence little ground for for any sort of debates at all.

        • Kentucky Bomber

          The argument for Combs not being retired is that he retired when the Yanks weren’t retiring anything. Gehrig was the first in 1941…Ruth’s number 3 was worn by several players till his death in 1948. Anyway, retiring #1 for Combs would be far more valid than for Martin.

          • Tom_hamsandwich

            So Ruth went to the grave thinking that the only Yankee number to ever be retired was Lou Gehrig’s.

        • cashmoney

          Because the demographic yankees are targeting for sellouts most likely never heard of combs.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Cashmoney’s right. There are no qualifiers. As for Whitey saying It should only be 3,4,5, and 7, leaving Yogi out…I think it’s hard to put current players into the context of history. Like unless they are truly transcendent players like pre-injuries Griffey Jr. or Mays or Mantle, it’s hard to give players that played in your own time fair judgement. You either lean too hard towards loving them and thinking they are the greatest ever or you look for holes in their game because “nobody could have been as good as that generation of guys.”

    • bringbackthebullpencar

      Hank Bauer..toughest ballplayer to put on a uniform!! Look up his bio.

  • ScottinSJ

    I was thinking it would be cool for someone to wear Pi, but this would really damage any efforts to shorten the length of games.

    • Kentucky Bomber

      Bartolo Colon should wear Pie.

      • Moncada’s Codpiece

        I think he is well enough coordinated to make sure he doesn’t wear the pie, but eats the pie.

        • Tom_hamsandwich

          A guy doesn’t get that big by missing his mouth too often.

        • Jay Bramer

          LOL!!! You guy are hysterical. Now I’m hungry.

    • Sir Didi Odell Nakamura Jr

      Now batting for the Yankees, Number 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286
      20899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848, Shortstop, Number 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286
      20899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848.

      • Moncada’s Codpiece

        Goddamit, I meant to choose pi squared.

      • Jay Bramer

        LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jay Bramer

      LOL!

  • UnKnown

    Giambi is officially retiring. Slam that number up on the wall too

    • HoopDreams

      Bring the nWo theme with him

      • UnKnown

        And put the Golden Thong up there.

    • Jay Bramer

      lol!

  • HoopDreams

    *Bernie detonates nuclear missiles targeted all over the united states* “He should get his number retired, but the corr fivez”

  • Moncada’s Codpiece

    I just can’t get worked up about this. Yeah, it’s likely the Yankees are doing this now that the last of them have retired and it’s nice to wistfully reminisce about awesome teams now that the current one is in a mediocre slump. I get that there can be debates about this, but ultimately it’s the Yankees’ team and they can do what they want with their own numbers.

    If you asked me when I was 14, though, I would have been in the thick of those arguments though. Maybe I just grew jaded.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Debating retired numbers? Never been interested in it. Sure, there’s a couple I would have never retired (1, 44), but I’m aso not exactly calling for, or ever expecting, un-retiring.

  • disqus_SYUi2KdNZk

    MLBtraderumors says Red Sox are still angling for Cole Hamels. Would it be illegal for Yanks to throw in a player (e.g., Slade Heathcott) to entice Phillies to trade Hamels to a team in another division? Phillies could give us PTBNL, someone who could be the bullpen catcher.

  • ScottinSJ

    I agree with all of the commenters who question the criteria for a number to be retired. I guess the player had to be associated with a championship team. If not, David Mark Winfield’s eight excellent years in pinstripes deserve consideration.

    • Andy Frobig

      You could make the case that Winfield was the real founder of the late ’90s dynasty. If George hadn’t tried to dig up dirt on Winfield, he wouldn’t have been suspended, and if he hadn’t been suspended, Stick Michael wouldn’t have had the chance to put those teams together, so yeah, good point!

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    They just really just go full heel, bring Bernie up to the podium, then tell him they’re really retiring #51 for Cecelio Guante.

  • Tom_hamsandwich

    Who will be next after this crop of numbers are retired? Is that player currently on the 40 man roster?

  • LarryM Fl

    Jorge and Bernie deserve to have their numbers retired. They were the nucleus of championship teams that won 4 championships and made the playoffs consistently even when the WS crown went to another team. Those teams won because of this nucleus.

    But down the road the announcer will be announcing, ” now batting Billy Bob number 102, number 102.”

    • John Michael Hutton

      YOu think they were more important that Jeter and Mo? REally? And Andy is better than 10 other pitchers that pitched for the Yanks? Really? Your sense of the Yankees is woefully lacking.

      • LarryM Fl

        The core five was the nucleus of all those teams in the middle 90’s and later. IMHO they are deserving of the retired number status. My sense of the Yankees is not woefully lacking but my opinion can be different than yours. Unfortunately, you seem to have a different opinion than many others on this block. Your smiling picture is a facade IMHO.

        My sense of the Yankees started in ’57 at the age of 7. Some of those guys are on the deserved status retired numbers. You may know of 7,8,16 and 32.

  • OldYanksFan

    I’ve been a fan since ’65, and as much a homer as anyone.
    But this retiring Numbers is getting nuts.

    Posada might be the Yankees 3rd greatest Catcher.
    Bernie might be the Yankees 3rd greatest CFer.
    If we retire the 3rd greatest at each position, including RPs, that’s 30 numbers retired. Isn’t that a bit much?
    And what if in the future we have a C or a CFer better than Jorge or Bernie?
    More retired numbers?
    If you don’t make the HOF, you shouldn’t have your number retired.
    A plaque in CF? That’s fine.
    A blow job from BigDan? Perfectly reasonable.
    But we are going to run out of Numbers.
    Is this the Yankees just trying to get some attention and sell seats????
    And fer-Christs-sake… UNretire Reggie. The dude was barely a Yankee.

    • Bobbi

      Ah, but sometimes players don’t make the HOF, but were immensely important to their teams. If the Yankees hadn’t had such success, this wouldn’t even be a “problem.” I agree with what Cashmoney said earlier, that it’s much ado about little. Except it is good fodder for discussion. And if they have a center fielder in the future who is better than Bernie or a catcher who is better than Jorge, and that player is of HOF caliber, or the Yankees are again a team that must really be reckoned with, well, then, they will retire that player’s number. One of the things you have to take into consideration is baseball didn’t end, the Yankees didn’t end, with the great players in the past. It goes on, it is a living entity and new players are continually arriving. And some of them are great in their own generation, and deserve to be honored.

      And of course, the other issue here, is the Yankees now have 3 additional days that will be potential sell-outs. :)

      • John Michael Hutton

        How many sell outs did they have last year? The prices they charge for seats are ridiculous. I loved watching those Yankee games and looking at all of the empty seats. People aren’t stupid but the Yankees are.

  • Badassmilkman

    I would even bet they give out 13 as soon as Arod is out the door!

  • Louis DiFabio

    What about #21 i think that number deserves retiring

    • smallcreep

      There isn’t a player alive who has the balls to wear #21 in the Bronx.

      • Jay Bramer

        I agree. And I hope there never is. Paul won 4 of 6 World Championships with the Yanks, was with the team in 94 when they were likely to win the division until the strike, was in the tragic playoffs in 95 that Buck lost by stupid pitching decisions. So, arguably, Paul helped the Yankees to 94 playoffs (likely), the 95 playoffs, 96 world series, 97 playoffs, 98-2000 World Series, and two others. I say just retire the number. Who the hell would wear it? I wouldn’t…and I can’t imagine anybody with any respect for the guy or the Yankees in general would. So, you might as well retire it. He earned a place out there. Mattingly, my favorite player, is retired no. 23 and NEVER won a world series. What more could Paul have done? He had some GREAT hits and catches in those post seasons too.

  • Andy Frobig

    Not retire 13? But Leyritz was The King!

  • BearNJ

    Stop the insanity. You have a Memorial park. Give them plaques.

  • Basil

    Sentimental nonsense.

  • John Michael Hutton

    This is ridiculous. Good players but retiring their numbers? I can name 5 catchers that were better than Jorge who played for the Yanks. I can name 10 pitchers better than Petite. Mo and Jeter are different stories but still, there were others that were just as good whose numbers haven’t been retired. This is just a jaded attempt to distract fans from the ineptness of this current team.