Jason Heyward, Andrelton Simmons, and an alternate offseason universe

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Heyward and Simmons in pinstripes? The Yankees tried. (Presswire)

We get a fair amount of tips here at RAB. Well, we get a lot of emails that claim to be tips. Let’s put it that way. The vast majority of them turn out to be false — which is why we never post them, even the totally believable ones — but every so often one of ’em is true. When that happens my feeling is more “hey, neat” than “damn we should have posted that!”

A few weeks back we were tipped off that the Yankees had been discussing a massive trade with the Braves that would have brought Jason Heyward and Andrelton Simmons to New York. (I’m pretty sure we got the tip after Heyward was traded to the Cardinals.) Apparently this was one of those rare true tips. Andy Martino reported on the trade talks earlier this week:

According to two major league sources, the Yankees and Atlanta Braves were talking more than we knew over the winter, in addition to swapping Manny Banuelos and David Carpenter. The Yanks were interested in what would have been a blockbuster acquisition of outfielder Jason Heyward and shortstop Andrelton Simmons.

On Monday, Cashman would not confirm his offseason interest — it is rare for a GM to publicly discuss players belonging to other teams — but here is what we were able to gather elsewhere: Before the Yanks acquired shortstop Didi Gregorius, they asked Atlanta about Heyward and Simmons. It is not clear what the Braves would have wanted in return, and it is possible that talks never progressed to the concrete offer phase.

Heyward was traded to St. Louis on November 17th, so it was very early in the offseason. It was basically the first huge move of the winter. The Yankees were talking to the Braves about the potential Heyward/Simmons deal very early in the offseason, long before they traded for Gregorius and Nathan Eovaldi, signed Andrew Miller, re-signed Chase Headley, the whole nine.

On the surface this rumor makes total sense. The Yankees prioritized defense this winter and Heyward and Simmons are the best defensive right fielder and best defensive shortstop in baseball, respectively. They also focused on getting younger, and both Heyward and Simmons are only 25. Heyward also fits their model offensive profile — left-handed and patient will pull power. Simmons isn’t much of a hitter but they wanted his glove.

The Braves made it very clear they were seeking young high-end pitching early this offseason — Heyward (and Jordan Walden) was traded for Shelby Miller and a pitching prospect — and I’m guessing that’s where things fell apart. The Yankees don’t have enough young pitching to trade unless they were willing to part with Michael Pineda, and even his trade value is hurt by his injury problems. Shane Greene? Luis Severino? Bryan Mitchell? Manny Banuelos (who was traded to the Braves in January)? None of those guys have Shelby’s pedigree.

Anyway, as fun as this potential blockbuster is, I don’t want to focus too much on the rumor itself. Instead I want to discuss how the offseason would have changed had the Yankees managed to swing a deal for Heyward and Simmons. It’s hard to do that without knowing who would have gone to the Braves in the trade, so we’re going to have to make assumptions. Our tipster said the deal was built around prospects, so I’m going to say the package included:

  • Greene: Atlanta wanted MLB ready pitching based on the Miller (and later Mike Foltynewicz) pickup and the Yankees traded Greene for Gregorius, so I assume they were willing to trade him for Simmons too.
  • Severino: Again, the Braves wanted young high-end pitching, and Severino is not only New York’s top pitching prospect, he’s one of the best in the game. You don’t get Heyward and Simmons without trading someone like this.
  • Banuelos: He was eventually traded to the Braves, so clearly they had interest and clearly the Yankees were open to moving him. And, again, Atlanta wanted pitching.
  • Multiple Prospects: I’m going to say the rest of the trade package was filled out by prospects who aren’t expected to help the Yankees at the MLB level this year. Guys like Aaron Judge, Greg Bird, Eric Jagielo, Luis Torrens, so on. I’m not saying all those guys would go in the deal. I’m just assuming the rest of the package included prospects like them who wouldn’t change the 2015 roster outlook.

That sound good? If it doesn’t, too bad. It’s my blog and we’re going to roll with this. Had the trade gone down as presented above, the Yankees would have been sitting on this projected 25-man roster in early-November:

Catcher Infielders Outfielders Rotation Bullpen
Brian McCann 1B Mark Teixeira LF Brett Gardner Masahiro Tanaka Dellin Betances
2B ? CF Jacoby Ellsbury Michael Pineda Adam Warren
DH SS Simmons RF Heyward CC Sabathia Shawn Kelley
Carlos Beltran 3B Martin Prado David Phelps Justin Wilson
? Esmil Rogers
BENCH DISABLED LIST David Huff
C John Ryan Murphy OF Chris Young Ivan Nova Preston Claiborne
IF Brendan Ryan DH A-Rod

The Yankees made a couple moves this winter that I think they would have made even with the Heyward/Simmons blockbuster. Re-signing Young, for example. He re-signed two weeks before Heyward was traded to the Cardinals and I think the Yankees would have done that anyway, especially since they would have had an all-left-handed hitting outfield with Heyward. Francisco Cervelli was traded for Wilson five days before the Heyward trade, and again, I think that’s a deal that happens anyway. That move was about bolstering the bullpen and clearing a spot for Murphy more than anything.

Heyward and Simmons are relatively cheap but they do cost real money — Heyward will earn $7.8M in 2015 and Simmons will earn $3M as part of the extension that will pay him $56M through 2020. That’s $10.8M between the two of them and that’s not nothing. That’s more than the Yankees will pay Andrew Miller ($9M) and a little less than they’ll pay Headley ($13M) in 2015. Perhaps Hal Steinbrenner would okay an increased payroll because Heyward and Simmons are so young, but I have no reason to assume that. The money has to be balanced out somewhere.

Since the bullpen was such a focal point, my hunch is the Heyward/Simmons money means no Headley, not no Miller. No Headley means Prado plays third base — Alex Rodriguez playing third ain’t happening — and Prado playing third base means no Eovaldi for the rotation and no Domingo German to replenish the minor league prospect pipeline. Prado was traded to the Marlins but the Yankees didn’t dump his $11M salary — the money in the trade was structured so that it was a wash. That’s why the Yankees are sending Miami $3M this year and $3M next. It’s not like trading Prado clears money for Headley and boom, they still have Headley and Eovaldi. Had the Yankees swung the Prado trade even after Heyward/Simmons, they’d have Eovaldi, no third baseman, and basically the same payroll situation.

Without the Prado/Eovaldi trade, the Yankees would still have Phelps, who essentially takes Eovaldi’s rotation spot. The club would still need a fifth starter and re-signing Chris Capuano strikes me as a move the Yankees would still make even after the Heyward/Simmons deal. Maybe it’s not Capuano himself, but someone like him on a one-year, $5M-ish contract. Aaron Harang or Kyle Kendrick. Whoever. A veteran fifth starter type on a one-year contract to fill out the rotation. Perhaps they would have made a more aggressive play for Brett Anderson — or Justin Masterson, though he has Red Sox roots — but topping the $10M he got from the Dodgers seems really unlikely. I’m not sure any other team would have offered him that. The Yankees still would have needed a veteran back-end guy like Capuano.

The second base situation is somewhat interesting because the Yankees would be in the same spot as they were in real life after Prado was traded for Eovaldi, meaning they wouldn’t have had a true big league second baseman, just some prospects in Rob Refsnyder and Jose Pirela. (Assuming they weren’t traded for Heyward/Simmons!) Because the Yankees went out and re-signed Stephen Drew on the cheap even with Refsnyder and Pirela around, I think they would have done it again with Heyward/Simmons. It’s a boring answer but I honestly think that’s what happens. They’ve been after Drew for a few years now.

Huff was non-tendered and Claiborne was lost on waivers, but those are minor moves. (Remember, Claiborne was cut to make room for Gonzalez Germen, who was then cut for Chris Martin.) The Yankees were looking to upgrade those spots anyway, and ultimately they did with David Carpenter and Chasen Shreve. And that’s where it gets complicated, because those two came over from the Braves for Banuelos in January. Would they have been part of the Heyward/Simmons blockbuster? Maybe! I don’t think we can assume that though. The hypothetical Heyward/Simmons trade happened in early-November and the actual Banuelos trade happened in early-January. Lots can change in two months.

Instead, I think the Yankees would have looked to bolster their bullpen with smaller moves. Waivers claims and the like. Maybe they would have found a way to keep Claiborne and Germen and Martin, for example. (Who knows what the 40-man roster would have looked like after Heyward/Simmons.) And, also, no Carpenter likely means either Kelley isn’t traded or the Yankees find a similarly priced pitcher in free agency, say John Axford or Burke Badenhop or (gasp!) Joba Chamberlain. Miller and Wilson were the big reliever moves this winter. I think no Carpenter/Shreve means more scrap-heaping, not another trade for bonafide big leaguers.

The bench is pretty straight forward thanks to Young, Murphy, and Ryan. The A-Rod/Beltran dynamic at DH looks problematic but would probably take care of itself via injury — neither Beltran nor A-Rod is especially durable at this point of their careers — before long. Until then, there would probably be a DH rotation, a rotation that includes guys like McCann, Teixeira, and Prado too. The Yankees and Joe Girardi have made it clear they prefer a DH rotation to have one set DH. Basically all non-Red Sox AL teams are like they now.

Alright, so after all those hypothetical moves, the 25-man roster coming into Spring Training would look something like this in the wake of the Heyward/Simmons blockbuster:

Catcher Infielders Outfielders Rotation Bullpen
McCann 1B Teixeira LF Gardner Tanaka Betances
2B Drew CF Ellsbury Pineda Miller
DH SS Simmons RF Heyward Sabathia Warren
A-Rod/Beltran 3B Prado Phelps Kelley
Capuano Wilson
BENCH DISABLED LIST Rogers
C Murphy OF Young Nova Claiborne, Etc.
IF Ryan A-Rod/Beltran

Now for the twist ending: I’d rather have the current Yankees than the Heyward/Simmons Yankees, especially since the Heyward/Simmons Yankees would have a gutted farm system. Heyward is a terrific player, but he’s going to be a free agent after the season. The Yankees would only be acquiring one year of him. Any extension will cost free agent dollars too, otherwise there’s no reason for him to sign it. Simmons is better than Gregorius, but yeah, give me Headley and Eovaldi over Prado and Phelps all day, every day.

The farm system angle is very important. The Yankees wouldn’t just be trading Severino, they’d be trading several other prospects as well. Good ones too. Maybe Judge, maybe Bird, maybe Jacob Lindgren. Maybe all three. Guys like Heyward and Simmons don’t come cheap. The Yankees would be better in right field (for a year) and better at shortstop with potentially weaker options at third base (Headley vs. Prado), in the rotation (Eovaldi vs. Phelps), in the bullpen (Carpenter/Shreve vs. Claiborne, etc.), and have fewer top prospects to trade to fill other needs.

I assume that because the Yankees were looking to trade for Heyward, they were also willing to extend him at a handsome price. They could still have him at that handsome price after the season in real life though. That’s the thing. Again, he fits what they look for these days — young, great defense, lefty power and patience — and he’ll be a free agent in a few months. Maybe the Cardinals extend him first. That’s possible. More possible than Heyward saying “I’m so damn close to free agency, I owe it to myself to wait until after the season to see what the market has to offer me at age 26?” Nah.

The Heyward/Simmons trade sure would have qualified as a blockbuster — it would have been the biggest Yankees trade since what, A-Rod? — and man it would have been fun to analyze and dissect from every angle. I’m just not convinced the trade and a potential chain of events afterward would have automatically resulted in a better Yankees team going forward.

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  • Chip

    Mike, I’m with you.

    I would rather have Eovaldi and Headley and a full farm system with the option of going after Heyward as a FA next winter.

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      Without reading above analysis I am going with Chip.

  • dickylarue

    It’s a fascinating almost deal and it really comes down, for me, if Simmons can hit. If he is a solid offensive contributor, then the price is almost irrelevant. Defense and a plus bat at SS are priceless. If he’s going to struggle at the plate and be all glove no bat, then it’s bad move.

    What’s interesting is Heyward would clearly be our RF and Beltran would be our DH which means Arod would have nowhere to start on the team. It clearly shows the Yankees were not expecting Arod to be a player and makes me wonder if they were planning on waiving him if this trade happened. I still think they are hoping he’ll medically retire before opening day.

    It’s great that we kept the prospects, but if Didi and Eovaldi don’t step up once the games count, we’ll end trading a lot of them anyway for the replacement. This Braves almost deal gives me some hope that Cashman and the front office were shooting for the moon this off season. It takes two to tango, but at least they were trying to address lineup and defensive concerns.

  • Stan

    I don’t like the solution I am propsosing here but if that trade went through and they do NOT resign Headley maybe they trot out A-Rod at 3b and ride him till reinjures himself and play Prado at 2b. Then if/when A-Rod hurts himself they move Prado to 3b and bring up Pirela or Refsnyder to play 2b.

    • MB923

      Would have been my guess too if they traded for Heyward. Heyward in RF, Beltran full time DH, A-Rod full time 3B, Prado at 2B

  • whileaway

    I dunno . The Braves would´ve been really foolish to part with Simmons one of the games greatest fielding SS. I´m trying to see it from the Braves perspective and I simply don´t . Heyward for a Shelby Miller type SP +from NY ? Who ?

  • The A-Train

    Before Mike’s twist ending, I looked at the 25 man and thought the same thing as he said. A primary-glove shortstop and one year of Heyward…and we have to watch Phelps pitch in the rotation? No thanks. I think they did much better the way the played it.

  • Fins

    I agree with Mike’s conclusions. However, it is possible that if they got Heyward and Simmons that the Yankees may have gone all in, feeling that they had 2 players that made them a win now team, and no farm system to build for the future. Maybe they still sign Headly and trade Prado ect. Hell, maybe they sign a Lester in an effort to win now. You dont have to squint too hard to see that as being a win now move, and the Yankees blowing out the payroll.

  • MTU

    Heyward was born in NJ.
    Time to come home. :)

  • Ewing33

    I’m happy how it ended up and that deal never happened. We can sign Heyward for a billion dollars if we want to next off season.

    • Game 3

      They have no money coming off the books.

      • Ewing33

        Well, it is a good thing they are making all that profit they could put back into the team if they so choose. If not, no Heyward. More CC, Tex, Beltran and ARod.

        • Y’s Guy

          I think the chances that Arod CC and Tex are all on next year’s opening day roster is pretty slim. I’d say less than 50/50

          • Wave Your Hat

            The players, or their contracts?

            • Y’s Guy

              I mean that at least one of them will either retire, be released or be traded. Each of those has a different effect on the payroll.

              • Jorge Steinbrenner

                I’ll bet you one shiny pretend internet dollar they’re all Yankees next season.

                • Y’s Guy

                  pretend internet dollars….is that a bitcoin?

                  • Jorge Steinbrenner

                    No. It’s what someone who hates betting bets. Also, come on now. Other than a complete freak like me, no one will remember this a year from now.

                    • Y’s Guy

                      You’re pretend on!

        • Game 3

          Unfortunately, that’s the reality. Not saying I agree with it. :(

  • Wave Your Hat

    When I read Martino’s article yesterday I assumed the trade talk was more smoke than fire. I still find it hard to believe there was anything concrete to the talks, because the Yanks seem so unlikely to splash to the extent Heyward would require a splash, at least before 2017 or 2018.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    I would have loved Simmons, but what will probably be Heyward’s testing the market is where this falls apart for me. I shudder at what the potential cost would have been here.

    Cool fantasy booking, but little else.

    Amazing job on this, Mike, and kudos for basically telling us all to either read along or suck ya nuts.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Yeah, I would’ve been in love with this trade if Heyward was under contract for at least a couple seasons. I still think St. Louis jobbed ATL, because Miller’s peripherals (BB/9, and K/9 in particular) have been trending the wrong way since he got into the league. But the cost of both Simmons and Heyward then to turn around and lose Heyward after one year would be tough.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        And I know you love Simmons….

        • Dalek Jeter

          Doesn’t hit a lick, but fields like Ozzie Smith.

    • ropeadope1

      If the proposed trade had been for Al Simmons and Heywood Hale Broun, I’d be all in on it.

  • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

    Another possibility could have been that the Yankees deal Gardner as part of that trade because it was before the Markakis signing by ATL but as Mike says, who the hell knows – it’s all speculation at this point. I would have loved to have Heyward and Simmons but with Heyward 1 year away from free agency I’d rather keep Judge and wait sign him if possible.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Because any big trade with the Yankees has to involve Gardner ;)

      • Ewing33

        Gardner is the one guy I don’t want to give up

        • Stan

          He is the only real position player we have who is movable. No one will take Ellsbury’s contract, Beltran A-Rod, Teixeira are unmovable, McCann could possibly be moved I suppose but thats like robbing Peter to pay Paul as there isnt really a starting catcher to replace him. Headley and Didi are in the same boat.

      • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

        I know here at RAB it seems that way, I just think the similarity between the two and the money each is owed it is conceivable that ATL would have wanted him and then not signed Markakis.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Unless it involves Ryan Howard, Jonathan Papelbon, and 60 million.

      • D$

        Yea, I mean, I like Gardner – he’s a #homegrownYankee. But at the end of the day, if you want Heyward, he’s a very similar player to Gardner, and the two of them are similar to Ellsbury. No need to have all three of those guys in the OF with Judge making people think he might play in 2 years, and having Beltran on the roster and various other options. Gardner has a nice contract that plenty of teams would take on.

        I’m not in the “trade Gardner” camp, but in the event of signing Heyward, I think it makes the most sense.

        • Ewing33

          I think having Gardner and Ellsbury already on the team allows you not to sell the farm or overpay an absurd amount in free agency for Heyward.

          • D$

            Agree. I’m not entirely sure how much of an upgrade Heyward is from Gardner anyways. Definitely an upgrade, but is he worth the incremental cost of (Heyward AAV – Gardner AAV)? Doubt it.

            • Ewing33

              Goes without saying in contract years, but this is a huge year for him. If he breaks out, forget it, his free agent price will break the bank. If he does more of the same as last year, he will still get a huge deal, and a long one considering his age.

        • Stan

          Heyward has more power potential. Thats really all I see different between them.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Age is kind of huge there as well.

            • D$

              Yea. I mean, I’m not really for this trade, particularly after Mike laid out a pretty realistic aftermath of it.

              I wouldn’t have any issue signing Heyward next year, as long as it meant moving Gardner. You get a similar player, at a higher price, who is younger and has a bit more power (and probably a little worse defensively). As I mentioned above, I don’t think Heyward is a massive upgrade, but Gardner is really our only movable MLB ready/proven piece. And could get us something in return. I’d look at it as a wash in the OF with the fruits of whatever was gotten back in the Gardy trade.

            • Stan

              Thank you… I was speaking more about production. But you are correct that the i think 5 year difference is a factor as well.

            • cashmoney

              By the time gardner finished his first full season in 09, he was 26.

        • Stan

          I’m only in the “trade Gardner” camp if its in a package to get a top of the rotation type pitcher or a stud of an outfielder.

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      Heyward slash since becoming ft in 2010: 262/351/781, and that’s good considering that a lot of people think he’s still a candidate to break out and hit more HR’s/power (he hit only 11 last year in 149 AB). Gardner since ft in 2009: 265/346/737 with (possible career high, but still) 17 knocks last year in 149 AB. Both lefties. Holding onto Judge, another guy who profiles similar to Heyward but hits right handed, I’d much rather keep how we presently ended up.

      • cashmoney

        Gardner has been gearing for fb last 2 years, if you look at fb value and change up value on fangraph. I see this as sustainable trend in terms of hr production. Probably 14-17 range this year again. I expect gardner to be slipping soon on d.

        • Mandy Stankiewicz

          we only have him till 2018, so his down years won’t be too brutal, if bad at all.

  • Y’s Guy

    I would have loved to get Simmons, but adding in one year of Heyward wouldn’t make it worth giving up multiple top prospects.

  • D$

    I think this is a pretty fair analysis.

    I like Heyward, and like Simmons over Didi, but as mentioned, Heyward is a FA next off-season, and (mostly since I never really paid any attention to minor leagues until ~5 years ago), its getting really exciting to see the potential that lies in our current farm.

  • Centaur Hips

    You could have basically named this “The awesome blockbuster rade that would have made the offseason worse.” I would have really liked that trade, but I also really like the offseason they had. The only minor things I didn’t like about the offseason was not keeping Prado and Greene (but we did get a good deal for both of them) so they can have more rotation depth and someone better than Drew at 2nd.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I do very much like who we got for Prado and Greene, which makes the question what would we had to have given up instead, and would you have preferred to lose those players.

      • Centaur Hips

        Unless there’s some alternate universe where the Eovaldi deal is simply stripped down to him for Phelps+ and then maybe for the Gregorius deal keep Cervelli (Dbacks do need catching) and Banuelos along with Kelly in the pen instead of Carp Wilson then I don’t really see any other way. Even that seems like a stretch.

  • renzostew

    I think JR MURPHY NEEDS TO BE AT TRIPLE A THIS YEAR HIS BATTING NEEDS TO INPROVE.ROMINE IS OUT OF OPTIONS WHY GIVE HIM AWAY FOR NOTHING.HIS MINOR AVEAGE IS THE SAME AS GARY SANCHEZ IN THE 270’S.

  • blake

    Simmons is he best defensive SS i’ve ever seen……but he really can’t hit either to this point. He has more power projection than Didi but overall I’m not sure How much better he is value wise….the WAR values say a lot….but that’s all defense and didi is pretty good there himself….so I agree with Mike….I would rather see how things play out and go after Heyward for just money this winter rather than gutting the farm system for these two guys.

  • Y’s Guy

    Yankees-Red Sox! Gunna Be Epic! Sox legends like Nava, Ceccini,Shaw and Holt taking on the boys today! The future (3 hours or so) are riding on this one!

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      What about future Hall of Famers such as Boagarts and Betts?

      • Y’s Guy

        I dont think future HOF’ers travel.

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          So Moncada won’t be making the trip?

          • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

            If I were the Red Sox I would have him starting at SS and pinch hit for him before his 1st AB just to make Yankees’ fans even more irate – and I say this because if the shoe were on the other foot I would hope the Yankees did the same.

    • Centaur Hips

      Holt still exists!?

  • NYCORNERSTONE

    Heyward was long gone before Yankees traded Banuelos wasn’t he

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      Yes, did you read the article?

      • NYCORNERSTONE

        Yes,, all hypothetically what ifs

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          Yes, that’s the entire premise of the article.

          • NYCORNERSTONE

            Heyward will be nice next year hope they sign him

  • blake

    This is certainly one of those things where you see the headline and immediately think…..they should have traded everything for those 2 players if they could make it happen…..but then when you break it down and what they did instead it actually makes more sense to do what they did. They can still have Heyward if they want him……just a year later and without giving up any prospects…..and Didi might end up as good as Simmons overall or better.

  • cashmoney

    very good deductive reasoning mike put forth, in no small part operating under assumption that the nyy have more less fix budget of 235-240 to allocate their finite resources . I only part I disagree is the assumption that nyy will be in play for a massive deal using the same assumption. Heyward to nyy on a massive ain’t likely to happen.

    • Y’s Guy

      Did you sleep through last offseason?

      • cashmoney

        No. Did you? Yankees traded dollars for dollars with contracts coming off the books and rod’s hiatus. Hal has repeatedly said and demonstrated he is not comfortable with payroll in 260 -270 range.

        • Y’s Guy

          There’s quite a bit of room between here and $270M. Enough to slide Hamels and Heyward in there, in fact.

          • cashmoney

            Explain. They are at 230 (LT included) with no significant contract coming off the books in 15. Any move of 20 mil plus will push them over 250. That is not to discount the fact cashman may have to take on additional obligations at td. That’s why I stated it’s unlikely.

  • dave_8

    Flush out the system and not get a starting pitcher out of it? Then Heyward goes to highest bidder after one season? Nah.

    Besides Andrelton Simmons sounds like one of those weird screen names invented by someone who posts here once or twice to attack the Yankee moves then disappears.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Eddarnelton Simmons?

      • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

        I think he’d go for Andreddardlton Simmons

        • Dalek Jeter

          You’re definitely right, he likes to hide the eddard in the middle.

          • http://batman-news.com nyyankfan7

            I feel unclean that I’m thinking like Eddard….ugh

            • Dalek Jeter

              ugh…you’re right “hide the eddard” sounds like a really bad euphemism. (It’s also how you wind up with Jon Snow)

  • LiamInAlbany

    If GOAT Jackie Bradley, JR doesn’t get into this game I’m rage-quitting this stream.

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    Say hello to our new #5 Adam Warren.
    Congrats!

    • calripyankee

      That would be great news.. How badly is Cap hurt??

      • NYCORNERSTONE

        Great 5 million out the window, keep buying garbage

        • Fernandito Andujar

          The contract is not guaranteed. I assume they can cut him before the regular season and not have to pay that $5M

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        What happened??

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    Could an argument be made that four years of an underpaid Brett Gardner is equal to one year of Jason Heyward, who would be underpaid in 2015, but probably overpaid in 2016 and beyond? Even though the Braves are rebuilding, having someone like Brett Gardner, who is from the South and exactly the kind of good ol’ boy that the crackers in Cobb County could embrace, in CF for the next four years would not necessarily be a bad thing for them. If the Braves did not want to pay all of Gardner’s money, the Yankees could have eaten some of it or offset it by trading Carlos Beltran for B.J. Upton.

    I don’t remember when the Yankees traded Greene for Gregorius, but let’s assume for the sake of this discussion that the Braves would have an interest in either Greene or Gregorius. If Gardner and Heyward are a wash and Simmons is worth more than Greene or Gregorius, how much more would the Yankees have to throw in to make up the difference? Severino strikes me as an overpay as does Bird, Judge, or Refsnyder. Also, if the Braves want young, major league-ready pitching, wouldn’t Adam Warren make more sense for them? Throw in a year and a half of Ivan Nova and that should be enough. Right?

    So where does that leave us? Gardner, Beltran, Gregorius, Warren, and Nova for Heyward, Upton, and Simmons. Add Banuelos for Carpenter and Shreve. Throw in Austin Romine for good measure and you have a very fun 12-player deal that should not prevent any of the other moves that the Yankees made this offseason.

    Before anyone balks about acquiring B.J. Upton, as soon as the ink was dry on this deal, I would have turned around and flipped him to the Cubs in a three-way deal with the Dodgers with Edwin Jackson going to LA, Upton going to the Cubs, and Carl Crawford coming here to replace Brett Gardner in LF. Am I wrong to think that Crawford/Young, Ellsbury, and Heyward is a better outfield than Gardner, Ellsbury, and Beltran? And who knows? Maybe the acquisition of Jackson by the Dodgers, enables the Yankees to retain Brandon McCarthy.