Hot starts by A-Rod and Chris Young have left little playing time for Garrett Jones

Yankees' improved offense starts at the top with Ellsbury and Gardner
2015 Draft: Tyler Jay
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The Yankees had been after Garrett Jones for quite a while before landing him this offseason in the Martin Prado/Nathan Eovaldi trade. They first tried to get him in the A.J. Burnett trade a few years ago, at least as far as we know. Given his left-handed pull power and the ability to play first base as well as right field, Jones sure seemed like a good fit for the roster this year. The Yankees needed protection at those two positions as well as DH.

Instead of being that part-time first baseman, part-time right fielder, part-time DH against righties this year, the 33-year-old Jones has been limited to 34 unproductive plate appearances in the team’s first 27 games. He’s started just seven of the 27 games — two in right, two at first, and three at DH. Jones is currently in an 0-for-15 slump and has hit .152/.176/.242 (9 wRC+) with no homers so far this year. His defense hasn’t been anything special but that was always the case.

The lack of playing time is only partly due to the ugly batting line. Both Alex Rodriguez and Chris Young are off to very good starts and are stealing at-bats from Jones, so to speak. No one expected A-Rod to be this productive this soon. We all figured Jones would get a fair amount of DH at-bats coming into the season. And whenever someone in the outfield has needed a day off, Young has stepped in because he’s tearing the cover off the ball, even against righties.

The leaves Jones almost as a man without a role. He’s not seeing much time in the outfield, isn’t seeing much time at DH, and Mark Teixeira‘s combination of good health and lots of dingers has kept Jones from playing first base as well. There’s just no way to squeeze him into the lineup right now, and his lack of production is only going to make it easier for Joe Girardi to avoid using him going forward. Jones is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Jones averaged 527 plate appearances per season from 2010-14 and never came to the plate fewer than 440 times. He’s on pace for 204 plate appearances this year, so his playing time has been more than cut in half, and it’s hard to be a bench player after playing everyday your entire career. This is a chicken or the egg thing — is Jones not producing because he isn’t playing, or is he not playing because he isn’t producing? It’s probably some of both. He’s the position player version of David Carpenter, basically.

I’m not saying Jones should play more. I just don’t think he’s turned into a true talent 9 wRC+ (!) hitter in an offseason and my guess is the lack of regular playing time is at least partially to blame. It’s hard to stay sharp when you play this infrequently. Extra batting practice and time in the cage only does so much. Live pitching is a different animal. A-Rod and Young (and Teixeira) have been too good to take out of the lineup and the Yankees should milk those hot starts for all they’re worth.

Jones is stuck in an unfortunate spot right now, and, aside from an injury, I’m not sure there is any way to get him the playing time he maybe needs to be a productive part-time player. I don’t think the Yankees should replace him, at least not yet, and even if they were going to replace him, who’s a better option? It’s not like the next guy is going to play much. Calling up Slade Heathcott or Ramon Flores to play once a week is a waste. For the time being the Yankees should ride it out with Jones and hope he figures out a way to be a productive yet seldom-used bench player.

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  • calripyankee

    With the age and injury history of some of these players, Jones could pay huge dividends later on.. Still gives you that knock out puncher’s chance in late game PH situations.. And the ability to play 3 positions when needed..

    • FriarFlyer

      Flip side… someone up from SWB might provide more versatility, better defense and perhaps be a pinch runner…

      • hansdee

        Any suggestions? Flores?

        • FriarFlyer

          Obviously Flores and Austin are already on the 40 man so it would depend on what other corresponding moves are made…nothing says it has to be an OFer either…

        • Leftballer

          10 for his last 32.

          problem is he hasn’t played a game at first base yet this season.

          • hansdee

            Yes. Last time he played any amount of 1st base was 2010-2011 seasons I think. Total of about 41 games. Isn’t Austin playing some at 1st base?

            • Leftballer

              Not yet this season. I’m sure both Flores and Austin will spend time at first this season soon enough.

            • Leftballer

              Not yet this season. I’m sure both Flores and Austin will spend time at first this season soon enough.

          • hansdee

            In some ways I’m more interested in the bat. If the guy has played 1st in the past, give it a go.

      • mitch

        as mike pointed out there’s no point in bringing up a prospect to play 1 game per week.

        • FriarFlyer

          Except someone called up might contribute in a different way and justify more playing time than Jones has received…not sure in terms of prospects that Austin and Flores are no more than a 4th, 5th OFer anyway…

          • mitch

            but they’re both bat-first guys too, so neither is going to contribute much in the field or on the bases

            • FriarFlyer

              …and what exactly has Jones done at bat, in the field and on the bases?

            • FriarFlyer

              …and what exactly has Jones done at bat, in the field and on the bases?

              • mitch

                he hasn’t done anything. I never argued that

              • mitch

                he hasn’t done anything. I never argued that

          • mitch

            but they’re both bat-first guys too, so neither is going to contribute much in the field or on the bases

        • FriarFlyer

          Except someone called up might contribute in a different way and justify more playing time than Jones has received…not sure in terms of prospects that Austin and Flores are no more than a 4th, 5th OFer anyway…

        • hansdee

          If that’s all the playing time they get than of course not.

        • hansdee

          If that’s all the playing time they get than of course not.

    • hansdee

      Tell you what. I expected by now he’d begin to get more playing time than he has.

    • hansdee

      Tell you what. I expected by now he’d begin to get more playing time than he has.

  • Leftballer

    & that fills the “one polarizing player/roster spot on the 2015 Yankees” article for the day.

    Tune into tomorrow where we’ll harp on the upcoming long man battle between Capuano & Rogers & how it can help the bullpen.

    Next time on the Y.E.S promoted and #1 source of N.Y.Y news on…

  • Sir Didi Nakamura

    Mike’s been pumping out the threads today, can’t keep up!

    • Yankenstein

      Too much Red Bull.

  • MG2015

    Jones wasn’t good in spring training either. He could just be having a bad year, he definitely looks like a hitter in the batter’s box and has a track record. Without an injury, though, he isn’t going to get much playing time, maybe the Yankees should do him (and themselves) a favor and send him elsewhere.

  • Bubba

    A little more rest for Carlos could be a win-win.

  • Alex Reddardriguez

    Garrett Jones should be DFA’d. Teixera plays most days and on his occasional offday Headley or A-Rod can fill in at 1st. Beltran/Young are platooning in RF. Jones has done nothing when he’s had a chance. Another big bat off the bench should be sought via trade by Cashman.

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      DFA TEHM ALL! PLAY TEH KIDZ!

      • Scott

        The kids, the kids damn it. Flores, heathcott, refs, Romine, Lindgren, Joboo, Ricky Vaughn, Willie Mays Hays, all of them.
        JOnes, drew, carpenter, martin, beltran, didi, they can suck my nutz. Casham failed, Jeter ruined last season hitting in the 2-hole, Girardi sucks as a manager. Rack me, I’m out.

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      DFA TEHM ALL! PLAY TEH KIDZ!

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      Hasn’t Pirela played a little 1B?

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      Hasn’t Pirela played a little 1B?

  • Pkyankfan69

    Sorry OT but very happy to see the Pats get found guilty today… The NFL better come down hard.

    The texts between the Pats equipment guys are HILARIOUS

    After a game between the Patriots and Jets on Oct. 16, 2014, Brady “complained angrily about the inflation level of the game balls,” leading to the following text-message exchange between the two equipment managers:

    McNally: Tom sucks … im going make that next ball a [expletive] balloon

    Jastremski: Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done …

    Jastremski: I told him it was. He was right though…

    Jastremski: I checked some of the balls this morn… The refs [expletive] us…a few of then were at almost 16

    Jastremski: They didnt recheck then after they put air in them

    McNally: [Expletive] tom … 16 is nothing…wait till next sunday

    Jastremski: Omg! Spaz

    Here’s some texts from Oct. 21. They’re still a little salty at Brady.

    McNally: Make sure you blow up the ball to look like a rugby ball so tom can get used to it before sunday

    Jastremski: Omg

    Oct. 23, 2014. Still plotting against Brady ahead of the upcoming game against the Bears.

    Jastremski: Can’t wait to give you your needle this week

    McNally: [Expletive] tom….make sure the pump is attached to the needle…..[expletive] watermelons coming

    Jastremski: So angry

    McNally: The only thing deflating sun..is his passing rating

    The next day, McNally seemed to indicate that Brady would need to pay up if he wanted the balls the way he liked them.

    Jastremski: I have a big needle for u this week

    McNally: Better be surrounded by cash and newkicks….or its a rugby sunday

    McNally: [Expletive] tom

    Jastremski: Maybe u will have some nice size 11s in ur locker

    McNally: Tom must really be working your balls hard this week

    What seems to be something of a smoking gun, when McNally calls himself “the deflator” and mentions taking the story to ESPN, came on May 9, 2014, before the start of the season.

    McNally: You working

    Jastremski: Yup

    McNally: Nice dude….jimmy needs some kicks….lets make a deal…..come on help the deflator

    McNally: Chill buddy im just [expletive] with you ….im not going to espn……..yet

    • Scott

      Is that in the report? That is awesome. Screw the Pats, I was talking to a guy in my office today. This is no different the bonds and A-rod doing roids. Did they need them? Nope, and the Pats didn’t need to cheat. Did it help them get better? No one knows for sure but they will forever be questioned.
      So now the Pats have deflategate and spygate. Are Brady and Belicheck clean at anything? Who knows, but what I do know is, no Pats fan can legitimately argue with another fan from any other team about the Pats SBs and winning and not have cheating come up, and it will be a valid argument.

    • Scott

      Is that in the report? That is awesome. Screw the Pats, I was talking to a guy in my office today. This is no different the bonds and A-rod doing roids. Did they need them? Nope, and the Pats didn’t need to cheat. Did it help them get better? No one knows for sure but they will forever be questioned.
      So now the Pats have deflategate and spygate. Are Brady and Belicheck clean at anything? Who knows, but what I do know is, no Pats fan can legitimately argue with another fan from any other team about the Pats SBs and winning and not have cheating come up, and it will be a valid argument.

  • Centaur Hips

    Arod, Young and Tex will cool off eventually. When they he’ll be useful by keeping too many ABs going to Beltran and the rest of the bench. Has looked pretty bad defensively though.

  • josh0909

    Cut Jones and bring up flores to play first base…..

    • Alkaline

      Lol

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Nah. Have Lindgren play first.

      • Some Asshole

        MOOKIE BETTS!!!

      • Some Asshole

        MOOKIE BETTS!!!

      • hansdee

        Now there’s an idea. As long as he had good control making those throws down to second on the 3-6-3. God knows, there should be more concern about a guy who has pitched to 158 batters in the minors and has walked 20. Even if he has struck out more than 33% of those batters. Can they trade him?

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Yeah, but those 20 walks were really bad. Or something.

          • hansdee

            Saw him pitch a couple of games at AA. He looked good enough for a kid that was just out of college. Its just, gee whiz, how can a judgment like, “Well it looks like he’s going to be the type of guy that walks a hitter per inning,” even be made about a guy who has only pitched to the sum total of 158 batters?
            It isn’t Lindgren per se, it’s the rush to judgment concerning a guy who hasn’t pitched to anything close to 200 hitters.
            Certainly, would he be at AAA, less than a year after he left college if he didn’t have real talent?

          • hansdee

            Saw him pitch a couple of games at AA. He looked good enough for a kid that was just out of college. Its just, gee whiz, how can a judgment like, “Well it looks like he’s going to be the type of guy that walks a hitter per inning,” even be made about a guy who has only pitched to the sum total of 158 batters?
            It isn’t Lindgren per se, it’s the rush to judgment concerning a guy who hasn’t pitched to anything close to 200 hitters.
            Certainly, would he be at AAA, less than a year after he left college if he didn’t have real talent?

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Yeah, but those 20 walks were really bad. Or something.

      • hansdee

        Now there’s an idea. As long as he had good control making those throws down to second on the 3-6-3. God knows, there should be more concern about a guy who has pitched to 158 batters in the minors and has walked 20. Even if he has struck out more than 33% of those batters. Can they trade him?

      • Dalek Jeter

        Lindgren is a stahting pticha?!

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Nah. Have Lindgren play first.

    • hansdee

      I’d like to see Flores brought up, but I would want to see him get more playing time than Jones is getting.

    • hansdee

      I’d like to see Flores brought up, but I would want to see him get more playing time than Jones is getting.

  • Wicomico Pinstripes

    Personally, I’d like to see Jones DH against RHP a little more while sitting A-Rod. Not that A-Rod hasn’t been awesome against RHP ( 139 wRC+), but Jones has had more success against RHP ( 116 wRC+ 2012-14) than LHP ( 40 wRC+ 2012-14). And, more importantly, I’m worried A-Rod will fatigue as the season progresses, so regular rest could be beneficial – he’s appeared in 25 of 27 games and has the 4th most PAs.

    Although, some feel an extended DL stint by A-Rod is inevitable no matter how much he’s rested and he should play as much as possible while he’s healthy. I don’t necessarily disagree that A-Rod’s chances of landing on the DL are larger than average, but I’m hopeful regular rest will at least somewhat decrease those odds, while also keeping him fresh.

    • hansdee

      Realistic concern on the fatigue.

    • mitch

      i agree that Rod will end up on the DL sooner than later, but I don’t think fatigue will play a big part as long as he’s primarily DHing

      • Wicomico Pinstripes

        He’ll undoubtedly fatigue at a slower rate DHing than playing the field, but I think with him being 40 the day in, day out grind is going to get to him no matter what. Whole days off where he does as close to nothing as possible could be helpful.

      • Wicomico Pinstripes

        He’ll undoubtedly fatigue at a slower rate DHing than playing the field, but I think with him being 40 the day in, day out grind is going to get to him no matter what. Whole days off where he does as close to nothing as possible could be helpful.

        • Some Asshole

          This. He still has to travel and all the rest of it. It isn’t simply about walking up to the batter’s box each day.

        • Some Asshole

          This. He still has to travel and all the rest of it. It isn’t simply about walking up to the batter’s box each day.

        • mitch

          you definitely need to be mindful of his usage…no disagreement there. On the other hand, he could get injured or start sucking at any moment, so i also think you want to ride the hot hand. Who knows how long he’ll keep this up?

          • Wicomico Pinstripes

            He actually has started to slump ( 67 wRC+ last two weeks). Of course, statistics over two week spans are susceptible to good/bad luck and a lot of other factors. But, he hasn’t looked quite as sharp as he did the first few weeks. Not to me, at least. Is this a normal slump, or was he a little tired for a few games? Being a month into the season I’d normally say slump, but most players aren’t 40 years old that coming into the season had only played 44 games in the last two years.

          • Wicomico Pinstripes

            He actually has started to slump ( 67 wRC+ last two weeks). Of course, statistics over two week spans are susceptible to good/bad luck and a lot of other factors. But, he hasn’t looked quite as sharp as he did the first few weeks. Not to me, at least. Is this a normal slump, or was he a little tired for a few games? Being a month into the season I’d normally say slump, but most players aren’t 40 years old that coming into the season had only played 44 games in the last two years.

        • mitch

          you definitely need to be mindful of his usage…no disagreement there. On the other hand, he could get injured or start sucking at any moment, so i also think you want to ride the hot hand. Who knows how long he’ll keep this up?

    • kikojones

      In terms of A-Rod, balancing the hot hand with the possibility of injury, plus eventual fatigue and/or possible suckitude, makes me appreciate Girardi’s job even more. How do you get it right? Props.

  • Bambino3

    You’re the egg… a bad egg.

  • Yankenstein

    You gotta go with the hot hand.

  • Chip

    Jones is in a similar situation as Carpenter. When you hardly play it is damn near impossible to be productive in the few chances you do get.

    I mean, at this point I would rather see Jones and Young platoon in RF than Beltran – but I doubt Girardi pulls that plug.

  • Chip

    Jones is in a similar situation as Carpenter. When you hardly play it is damn near impossible to be productive in the few chances you do get.

    I mean, at this point I would rather see Jones and Young platoon in RF than Beltran – but I doubt Girardi pulls that plug.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    I will put my beef with Jones over Monday aside for now, that piece of hippo shit, and address this from a more zen perspective.

    He hasn’t made the most of the opportunity handed to him, but it also hasn’t been much of an opportunity. With this small slice of playing time, I’m not even sure who I’d rather have there. In the end, unless there’s something that happens down the line which necessitates whoever is in his role to play more, I’d rather have the vet riding the pine than one of our younger players.

    Still, though, go screw yourself, Garrett Jones.

    Really, the zen thing here would be to focus on the actual good play of Alex and Young. Does Young still really have the highest WAR on the team?

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      I’m all for Zen and you are full of it..

  • Dalek Jeter

    Eh, for now Jones has a place on the roster. If the team decides to part ways with Beltran anytime soon, I think you give Jones a chance (like a month or so) to prove he can be the LH side of a platoon with Young. If he can’t, then move on to Flores or Heathcott.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Eh, for now Jones has a place on the roster. If the team decides to part ways with Beltran anytime soon, I think you give Jones a chance (like a month or so) to prove he can be the LH side of a platoon with Young. If he can’t, then move on to Flores or Heathcott.

  • kikojones

    Btw, I just read somewhere that A-Rod has become the right-handed Adam Dunn, in that his ABs, basically, have three general outcomes: HR, K, BB.

    • gageagainstthemachine

      Did Adam Dunn BB much besides the occasional IBB? I have a hard time equating ARod to Adam Dunn in any sentence, including current performance. But what the heck, maybe you’re right!

      • kikojones

        Oh, it’s not my opinion, necessarily. I’m just putting it out there to see what you guys think.

      • kikojones

        Oh, it’s not my opinion, necessarily. I’m just putting it out there to see what you guys think.

        • gageagainstthemachine

          Well, in that case, the man is no Adam Dunn. IMO.

        • gageagainstthemachine

          Well, in that case, the man is no Adam Dunn. IMO.

      • Some Asshole

        Dunn always generated a ton of walks. Career 15.8% rate, 107 walks in a 162-game average.

      • Some Asshole

        Dunn always generated a ton of walks. Career 15.8% rate, 107 walks in a 162-game average.

      • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

        certainly they don’t have the same frame or look much alike

    • gageagainstthemachine

      Did Adam Dunn BB much besides the occasional IBB? I have a hard time equating ARod to Adam Dunn in any sentence, including current performance. But what the heck, maybe you’re right!

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      He does see a lot of pitches and makes the pitcher work. Don’t underestimate the residual effect on the pitcher.

      • kikojones

        Absolutely.

      • kikojones

        Absolutely.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Yeah, but he’s referring to Alex being called a “three true outcomes” guy. That doesn’t really pass either the eye or cursory-look-at-stats test to me right now.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Some (most) times the analytics get me down.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            You don’t really need the analytics here. He’s getting his fair share of base hits that aren’t HR’s, and his K rate, while higher than prime Alex, hasn’t suddenly gone through the roof. I don’t think we’re there.

            In other words, Mick, you can do it.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            You don’t really need the analytics here. He’s getting his fair share of base hits that aren’t HR’s, and his K rate, while higher than prime Alex, hasn’t suddenly gone through the roof. I don’t think we’re there.

            In other words, Mick, you can do it.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Some (most) times the analytics get me down.

        • Robert Lucarelli

          Tex has turned into a three true outcome player…he’s essential adam Dunn now…with stellar defense

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Yeah, but he’s referring to Alex being called a “three true outcomes” guy. That doesn’t really pass either the eye or cursory-look-at-stats test to me right now.

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      He does see a lot of pitches and makes the pitcher work. Don’t underestimate the residual effect on the pitcher.

    • mitch

      he’s not there yet in my opinion. The “three true outcome” guys typically K like 30% of the time. I think Arod is still in the low 20s.

    • mitch

      he’s not there yet in my opinion. The “three true outcome” guys typically K like 30% of the time. I think Arod is still in the low 20s.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Seems a bit exaggerated, even looking at this year’s small sample.

      • kikojones

        Yeah, especially since he’s been getting quite a few singles and doubles.

      • kikojones

        Yeah, especially since he’s been getting quite a few singles and doubles.

      • hansdee

        I don’t know? I thought I heard John Kruk and Curt Schilling discussing the same thing.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Seems a bit exaggerated, even looking at this year’s small sample.

    • Robert Lucarelli

      Think tex is Dunn now not arod

    • Robert Lucarelli

      Think tex is Dunn now not arod

    • Dalek Jeter

      Fuck it, I wanted Adam Dunn for YEARS when he was Adam Dunn.

      • RetroRob

        I wonder if Adam Dunn, after a year of spending time “with the family”, will decide to return in 2016? I always bet on the return!

      • RetroRob

        I wonder if Adam Dunn, after a year of spending time “with the family”, will decide to return in 2016? I always bet on the return!

  • kikojones

    Btw, I just read somewhere that A-Rod has become the right-handed Adam Dunn, in that his ABs, basically, have three general outcomes: HR, K, BB.

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    Why is it that when I move the mouse then go to type that the comment box disappears???? Help!

    • mitch

      i’ve been having some technical issues too the last couple days

      • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

        no problems here

    • mitch

      i’ve been having some technical issues too the last couple days

    • JimK

      Same here and I don’t even have to move the mouse for the comment box to disappear.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        Is this a new thing?

        • JimK

          for me it is; did not have this problem until recently. I actually thought my aging computer may have been this issue.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            Same here. I guess the rest of RAB is ok.

        • JimK

          for me it is; did not have this problem until recently. I actually thought my aging computer may have been this issue.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        Is this a new thing?

    • JimK

      Same here and I don’t even have to move the mouse for the comment box to disappear.

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    Why is it that when I move the mouse then go to type that the comment box disappears???? Help!

  • HoopDreams

    Well, if he doesn’t start getting hits then…hes worthless, all he is at this point is the occasional homerun

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      Its hard to get perfection at every position. That usually results in championships. Hit and miss then evolve is what I say.

      • ScottinSJ

        Perfection?? Hell, they role out Beltran, Drew, and Didi almost every night. Who’s asking for perfection?? Mediocrity from these spots would be treasured.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Beltran is swinging the bat better. Guys get off to bad starts. You have to carry that once potent bat as this is common for older players. The rest of the team will carry him for now. Drew and Didi are strong up the middle and that’s a priority.

          • ScottinSJ

            The bottom-line is they’re 17 – 10. If they were, say, 12 – 15, there would be much greater urgency and clamor for change. As I’ve been saying since last year, Beltran is cooked and Drew has nothing to offer but his glove. I understand being more patient with a young kid like Didi.

            • JimK

              Granted it’s a SSS, but over his last 15 games Didi is hitting .267 and has an OBP of .333. I think most Y’s fans would gladly take those numbers over a full season. His K% is unchanged from the beginning of the year, but of the 6 BB’s he has this year, 5 of them are over his last 15 games.

        • ScottinSJ

          Sometimes, you gotta ride it out and hope they improve

          • Alkaline

            Now there are two of them!

            • ScottinSJ

              Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess.

          • Robert Lucarelli

            Jones is what he is….a poor defender who can hit a home run twice a month. I don’t know why everyone is high on him as a bench player…he’s never been really good or average at that

        • ScottinSJ

          Sometimes, you gotta ride it out and hope they improve

      • ScottinSJ

        Perfection?? Hell, they role out Beltran, Drew, and Didi almost every night. Who’s asking for perfection?? Mediocrity from these spots would be treasured.

  • HoopDreams

    Well, if he doesn’t start getting hits then…hes worthless, all he is at this point is the occasional homerun

  • hansdee

    It would be nice if Garrett Jones would hit 3 home runs in a game like Bryce Harper did today at Nationals Park.

    • Monterocouldstillbedinero

      Does Bryce play his entire career with the Nats or does he sign a long term deal with his favorite childhood team in a few years?

    • JimK

      If Jones does hit a 3 run HR ala Harper, maybe they should also change his birth certificate and make him 11 years younger.

      • hansdee

        That was just sneaking in a mention of Harper’s 3 HR’s in what wasn’t an open thread.

  • Robert Lucarelli

    No point in having him here …heathcott please k thnx

    • Alkaline

      Why have him up to play once a week if that?

      • Robert Lucarelli

        Why play him once a week? Let him play 3 times a week instead of beltran ….I’d like to see a young/heathcott platoon and DH beltran once twice a week

        • ScottinSJ

          I don’t disagree, but why not cut bait on Beltran altogether then? Isn’t that what you really want? It won’t happen unfortunately, but that’s what this is getting at.

        • ScottinSJ

          I don’t disagree, but why not cut bait on Beltran altogether then? Isn’t that what you really want? It won’t happen unfortunately, but that’s what this is getting at.

          • Robert Lucarelli

            Can’t. Too much of s commitment. Phantom DL him like the yanks did with fielder I’m 1997. Get him some at bats in Tampa and see if he can get his act together

        • HoopDreams

          Beltran is hurting in all aspects of the game, Heathcott has looked good and Im sure we all wanna see him up at the majors with all he’s been through. Id assume at some point something has gotta give with Carlos

          • Robert Lucarelli

            Yeah..what makes it worse is beltran is an absolute butcher in the field …it’s not like he’s gardner or ellsbury,..where if they’re not hitting it sucks but they give you great defense and are a threat when on base

            Beltran is all bat and his bat is nom exisstant,..essentially he is dead weight

            Useless

            • HoopDreams

              He can’t run, field or even string together good ABs. Ive said before that he’s done and Im standing by that

              • Robert Lucarelli

                I’m with you. Lets chip in for heathcott’s plane ticket

    • Bam Bam Muelens

      I’d like to get Slade up but not to ride the pine. Beltran is a DL stint waiting to happen. If he keeps cratering the Yanks might have to tell him he’s hurt (wink-wink). Gardner’s had injury issues in the past as well. If either of those two goes down… Slade or Flores should get a shot. Here’s the question – you have to clear a 40-man spot for Heathcott – so who goes?

      • Robert Lucarelli

        I’d 60 day beltran or dfa jones

  • RetroRob

    Depth becomes more important as a season progresses. If indeed the Yankees don’t plan to cut Beltran at any point if he doesn’t show signs of a rebound, then a RF platoon with Jones and/or Young/Pirela could provide production without the Yankees having to immediately swallow Beltran’s contract. Another factor holding down Jones’ playing time is Tex has been healthy and hitting HRs. That could change on a swing of a bat. We all saw what a disaster it was trying to piece together 1B last year when Tex would go down.

    • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

      it’s the old principle again, if you show you can play and do well you get more playing time, if you don’t, you don’t. It’s the chicken and the egg thing. Which comes first? With the way the team is playing now you don’t want to mess with the lineup and give a guy time to develop. What if he doesn’t? isn’t that what spring training is for? What did he do in Spring training? He probably didn’t get much playing time there either but I don’t remember. I don’t know if he could do much worse than the bottom of the Yankees lineup right now but there isn’t a position open. If he could play 2nd base well he might get some starts and strengthen the bottom of the lineup. I’d much prefer Young in RF than Jones at this point. I wouldn’t put Pirela in the outfield again. He hasn’t got any experience there and that’s where he misjudged and ran into the wall and has time on the DL

      • RetroRob

        Figuring out when a player is done is never quite easy. In Jones’ case it would be impossible. He’s not playing, but the reason he hasn’t played is because of the reasons Mike outlined. Flat out cutting Jones and then replacing him with (insert rookie prospect de jour) is pointless if they’re not going to play anymore than Jones has played, and in fact it’s worse development wise. Now, If they do plan to decrease Beltran’s playing time, then they should begin to insert Jones in the lineup to see if he can still hit (which he most likely can). He has played between 144 and 158 games a season the last five years, and he’s solidly productive against RH’d pitchers. Teams don’t cut that player in early May on the hopes of marginal prospects, and in the case of Heathcott, that he can stay healthy. It is nice the Yankees have some options in AAA. Once again, depth is good, keep the depth.

        • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

          yeh I agree but because he has played a lot and hit in the past doesn’t mean he can do it going forward now being older. Drew is an example. He hit much better in the past too as a full time player but not now. Even playing full time now he hasn’t improved. In fact he’s getting worse except for the odd dinger. So past performance doesn’t equate necessarily with current performance

        • Bertin Lefkovic

          How about trading Jones for Emilio Bonifacio or Beltran for Omar Infante?

    • Robert Lucarelli

      Depth can grow..look at the 2009 yanks …in the playoffs THey had hinske,gardner and Hairston off the bench.

  • Hankflorida

    Hope Jones doesn’t go the route of Brendon Boesch who in 60 at bats for the Yanks had 3 home runs where Jones doesn’t have any.

    • Robert Lucarelli

      Always thight boesch deserved more of a shot..even Though he hasn’t amounted to much

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I would love to follow any Brennan Boesch reference with an animated GIF of him misplaying that base hit that rolled slowly right passed him in the outfield, but I’ve never found one.

      • Hankflorida

        Cashman thought that Boesch would be his new Granderson doubling his home run out put after playing in a bigger park. Boesch was expendable when Welles came to the Yanks. Jones has not shown the power that even Boesch showed not playing on a regular basis. Boesch showed on his few at bats that he hit home runs at 6% of his at bats which was double the ratio that he hit in Detroit. Cashman had a good idea with Jones who played in a bigger park in Miami but it is not working out.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Jones’ biggest problem is he’s just not hairy enough to be a hairy lefthanded monster off the bench, right Eddard?

    • Robert Lucarelli

      Steve balboni

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I blame:

      1. Stephen Drew
      2. Jeter for being Jeter and doing Jeter things Jeter Jeter Jeter
      3. The Yankees for signing Stephen Drew
      4. The Yankees for not signing Stephen Drew
      5. Chris Martin
      6. Matt Warden

      • Danny Aiello Jr.

        Also,
        7. Too Many Homers
        8. Cashman Failing
        9. The Boss rolling over and causing a gravitational anomaly
        10. RISP Fail
        11. That’s baseball suzyn
        12. The Binder
        13. Age
        14. Veteran Presents

        • Mandy Stankiewicz

          15. Tex cost us Trout

          • Dalek Jeter

            Favorite bit of misinformation.

          • Robert Lucarelli

            Yeah…..please don’t ever remind me that again

            Imagine gardy trout n ellsbury patrolling the outfield ? I mean if the yanks draft trout yanks prob don’t sign ellsbury…or maybe they do and not beltran…whatever

            • Dalek Jeter

              Only it’s not true. To guarantee having the spot where Trout was taken they would’ve needed to not sign any of AJ, Tex, or Sabathia. AND EVEN THEN The Angels would’ve had one pick instead of two consecutive, and it’s 50/50 that they don’t pick Trout if they only had one pick. There is only one specific universe in which the Yankees draft Mike Trout with a very specific chain of events.

              • Robert Lucarelli

                Fuck you and your logic

              • Robert Lucarelli

                Not serious

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Veterans should get presents-Jeter did.

        • Robert Lucarelli

          Too many homers…not enough bunting……..

          …………

      • Dalek Jeter

        what about

        -Cashman
        -Cashman for not including Nunez in the Cliff Lee trade
        -Sabathia
        – AJ Burnett
        -Girardi for not giving Zoilo a chance
        -Girardi for not trusting David Adams
        -Cashman for letting David Adams go
        -That dude who renounced his fandom for David Adams
        -Hal for being cheap and not getting Dice-K

        • Danny Aiello Jr.

          Way to hijack my nice numbered list comment. Jeter. This is what we mean. You ruin everything. JETER JETER JETER

          • Dalek Jeter

            The only number I need is 2. For my Jersey and where I will be batting when I come out of retirement next month. Because I’m a selfish asshole or something.

            • Danny Aiello Jr.

              egomaniac. #TooManyGiftBaskets

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          His name was Bunny.

      • Robert Lucarelli

        I blame refsnyder for not being able to throw

    • Yankenstein

      But he does have that ’70’s porn ‘stach working

  • Robert Lucarelli

    Any word if Pirela is in line up tonight ? And does joes binder say to shit ellsbury or gardner against lefty tonight ?

    Gardner does have a grand slam off of buerhle a few years ago

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      If you hear El Trueno coming….

    • RetroRob

      Meredith Marakovits ?@M_Marakovits 5m5 minutes ago

      Ellsbury 8, young 7, Rodriguez Dh, teixeira 3, McCAnn 2, Beltran 9, Headley 5, drew 6, pirela 4, Sabathia 1 #yankees

      • Dalek Jeter

        Sigh…again, Buehrle is exactly the type of LHP Didi should be starting against. I could understand if Drew was hitting, at all, but he’s ice cold and Didi’s hitting .250 since the beginning of the Red Sox series…which, you know…isn’t great but it could be worse.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          They were saying Drew has been hitting leftys way better than RH. Something like 0-20 vs RH but 330+ v LH lately.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          They were saying Drew has been hitting leftys way better than RH. Something like 0-20 vs RH but 330+ v LH lately.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Sigh…again, Buehrle is exactly the type of LHP Didi should be starting against. I could understand if Drew was hitting, at all, but he’s ice cold and Didi’s hitting .250 since the beginning of the Red Sox series…which, you know…isn’t great but it could be worse.

      • Robert Lucarelli

        Lmao…benching gardner is just lol

    • Yankenstein

      Gardner’s sitting Pirela is at 2nd batting 9th, Drew at SS

      • Hankflorida

        How many balls will Drew hit to the left side of the diamond since the pitcher cannot overpower him tonight?

      • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

        why is Gardner sitting? He’s probably getting a break but with it being the rubber game of the series and the way Gardner and Ells are pairing up it’s too bad to have to break that up

        • Yankenstein

          Breaking up the lefties. Young is hitting 2nd.

        • Yankenstein

          Breaking up the lefties. Young is hitting 2nd.

        • n0exit

          When was ells last off day. Seems like he’s played a lot recently.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            He’s Secretariat, you gotta ride him..

            • n0exit

              Into the ground?

              • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

                So you would play Gardy/Young in CF. I haven’t checked their rest schedules.

                • n0exit

                  No off day until may 18th. Play gardy. Sit ells. Everything else is the same. I guess its a toss up, binder knows best.

                  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

                    I wouldn’t sit him in the middle of this hot streak.

                  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

                    I wouldn’t sit him in the middle of this hot streak.

                • n0exit

                  No off day until may 18th. Play gardy. Sit ells. Everything else is the same. I guess its a toss up, binder knows best.

            • n0exit

              Into the ground?

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            He’s Secretariat, you gotta ride him..

        • n0exit

          When was ells last off day. Seems like he’s played a lot recently.

        • RetroRob

          Any time there is a lefty on the mound, Young will be playing one of the three OF spots, with one of the regulars resting. Now the obvious answer is they should sit Beltran right now, but overall I do want them to rest Gardner since he does wear down. That said, he’s hot, so I would have sat Beltran today, but understand the move.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            Beltran is getting better swings, He needs to work it out.
            Gardner could use a day.

          • Robert Lucarelli

            Gardner hit a grand slam against this lefty..bsck when he was a 5th outfielder..not a 4th

            Sitting gardner vs lefties is dumb..his splits aren’t bad and his game is so much more than just his bat

          • Robert Lucarelli

            Gardner hit a grand slam against this lefty..bsck when he was a 5th outfielder..not a 4th

            Sitting gardner vs lefties is dumb..his splits aren’t bad and his game is so much more than just his bat

            • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

              It doesn’t matter who they sit they annihilate Buerle.

              • Robert Lucarelli

                Less fun with no gardner. I just love his attitude. You can tell he still plays with a chip on his shoulder

                • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

                  He just wants to get Carlos off and he just might catch up to some of Beurles slop.

                • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

                  He just wants to get Carlos off and he just might catch up to some of Beurles slop.

              • Robert Lucarelli

                Less fun with no gardner. I just love his attitude. You can tell he still plays with a chip on his shoulder

            • RetroRob

              Resting all three 30+ OFers with Young playing against lefties is a good idea. Keep Gardner healthy and productive for the year. He wears down and gets nagging injuries as the year progresses. This is one way of doing it. This is Young’s role and it has worked. That said, I still would have sat Beltran until he starts showing something, but I understand the move.

              • Robert Lucarelli

                Meh…sit gardner against a tough lefty…not buerhle

              • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

                He looks a lot better up there. Sitting him now might be counterproductive esp one he can easily catch up to.

        • RetroRob

          Any time there is a lefty on the mound, Young will be playing one of the three OF spots, with one of the regulars resting. Now the obvious answer is they should sit Beltran right now, but overall I do want them to rest Gardner since he does wear down. That said, he’s hot, so I would have sat Beltran today, but understand the move.

        • BearNJ

          Mike said he was dinged up sliding yesterday. Nothing serious just a day off.

      • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

        why is Gardner sitting? He’s probably getting a break but with it being the rubber game of the series and the way Gardner and Ells are pairing up it’s too bad to have to break that up

      • Robert Lucarelli

        Lol gardner on bench

      • Robert Lucarelli

        Lol gardner on bench

    • Dalek Jeter

      He (Pirela) has been activated, corresponding move is Petit to the DL, from there, idk.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        Is there any advantage to dling him vs sending him down?

        • n0exit

          Yea the MLBPA won’t rip you a new one.

        • RetroRob

          There is an advantage for Petit since he remains on a MLB roster with corresponding benefits/service time, etc. Since he was injured while still on the MLB team, he gets to go on the MLB DL.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            Convenient.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            Convenient.

          • BearNJ

            He seems to like the meal money.

        • RetroRob

          There is an advantage for Petit since he remains on a MLB roster with corresponding benefits/service time, etc. Since he was injured while still on the MLB team, he gets to go on the MLB DL.

  • Bam Bam Muelens

    I’ll be shocked if either Teixeira or A-Rod don’t end up on the DL at least once this season. You can do a lot worse than Garrett Jones as 1B/DH insurance. It’s still early in the season. Girardi’s done well to rest his veterans… but it would not be pragmatic to bank on healthy seasons from both A-Rod and Tex.

  • Sir Didi Nakamura

    People hate A-Rod but love Ortiz.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGfKfMmR-xU

    • Dalek Jeter

      What a tool bag. This is the perfect example of what a douche he is. He wasn’t even thrown out at that point, still just angry about a call, and nearly injures his team’s “leader” with either a backswing or shrapnel. You know nobody would EVER pull that shit on the Yankees. Even when Paul O’neill lost his cool, or Kevin Brown, they never put another teammate in danger.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        Roid rage?

    • Robert Lucarelli

      Smashes water coolers, does steroids,, curses on live TV ..is celebrated

      Arod tips a clerk $50 at a Miami airport for getting him a water and is labeled a douche

      ESPN the worldwide leader In sports

      • Tony Wilson

        You forgot how the idiot poses for HRs and gets upset if someone hits him. He thinks he’s above the game and I just wish the next time he admires his shot, the next at bat he gets drilled. Not in the head because I don’t think anyone deserves that, not even him but in the rib cage. There should be consequences for the bulls hit he does when homering.

    • Robert Lucarelli

      Smashes water coolers, does steroids,, curses on live TV ..is celebrated

      Arod tips a clerk $50 at a Miami airport for getting him a water and is labeled a douche

      ESPN the worldwide leader In sports

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      What a dickhead.

  • Sir Didi Nakamura

    People hate A-Rod but love Ortiz.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGfKfMmR-xU

  • jonkantrowitz

    How about Kyle Roller – not a prospect so it doesn’t hurt to have him sit on the bench – and he’s potentially a lot better that Jones.

    • n0exit

      I can guarantee one thing in life. In no way will kyle roller ever be better than Garret jones at anything baseball related.

      • jonkantrowitz

        Roller’s a better first baseman – and Jones isn’t hitting at all –

    • n0exit

      I can guarantee one thing in life. In no way will kyle roller ever be better than Garret jones at anything baseball related.

    • RetroRob

      Why is he potentially a lot better than Jones, especially if he’s batting never? Roller is not viewed as a prospect. Jones has hit in the majors. Jones is better than Roller.

    • Havok9120

      And if you release Jones and Roller isn’t better? What happens then?

  • ScottinSJ

    Pirela goes 3 for 4 tonight and the Pippization of Stephen Drew commences. (I can dream)

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      If its a righty tomorrow and Pirela goes 3-4 do you really think Girardi plays him over Drew?

      • ScottinSJ

        Probably not, but thanks for screwing with my dream.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Who’s going for Balt?

          • ScottinSJ

            Chris Tillman, a righty

            • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

              well maybe it will be resttime for Drew as he isn’t hitting rightys

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Who’s going for Balt?

      • ScottinSJ

        Probably not, but thanks for screwing with my dream.

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      If its a righty tomorrow and Pirela goes 3-4 do you really think Girardi plays him over Drew?

  • bernbabybern

    Pirela in lineup at 2B hitting 9th, Drew at SS, Gardner sits.

  • bernbabybern

    Pirela in lineup at 2B hitting 9th, Drew at SS, Gardner sits.

  • n0exit

    Gardner stiff neck. Per feinsand.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Eh, we’re a month into the season, I wouldn’t be surprised if everybody didn’t have some ache or pain that merits a day off. Gardner’s sitting tonight because Beltran’s dead cat bouncing a bit and you need Young in the line up against a LHP.

      • RetroRob

        I don’t view it as a made-up excuse, if that’s what you mean. He wouldn’t have to say anything for playing Young for one of the three OFers against a lefty since he’s been doing it all season. It’s probably a little more serious than the average ache. Hopefully he’s not out for more than a game.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Not necessarily made up, but as serious as Headley’s back ache that kept him out for one night.

          • n0exit

            Apparently caused by a head first slide yesterday. So far we have TeX’s lat headleys back and Gardner’s neck. Also ells’ hip. All non DL injuries.

            • Havok9120

              That’s how the season goes.

  • Pete22

    As I said yesterday I believe Jones was going to be released if Petit did not get injured and end up on the DL.

    Tex lat, Gardner neck and Headley back. Yankees have been remarkably forthcoming about these ailments that result in a day off instead of just saying they are giving them a rest.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      “As I said yesterday I believe Jones was going to be released if Petit did not get injured and end up on the DL.” lol?

      • Some Asshole

        AISFM!!! Somehow…

  • Pete22

    Drew has good numbers against Buehrle. I predict a big night for him. The haters will be sad.

    • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

      good night. Will be happy for the team. Drew has one good night in how many. Being consistent is what it`s all about. Anyway, hope you`re right and he gets a couple of hits tonight.

    • Austinmac

      Don’t you think it is fair to question Drew’s production and benefits of playing him considering his remarkably bad hitting for the past year? One doesn’t have to hate to consider that.

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    It is both fortunate and unfortunate, but it looks like Garrett Jones is this year’s Kelly Johnson and Chris Young is this year’s Yangervis Solarte.

    • FriarFlyer

      Johnson already has 5 HRs after his AL East tour last year

  • Sir Didi Nakamura

    http://www.pitcherlist.com/bartolo-colons-fastball-the-best-pitches-from-tuesdays-games/

    Check out Pineda’s slider. Absolutely disgustingly filthy

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    What would make more sense? Trading Garrett Jones to the White Sox for Emilio Bonifacio or trading Carlos Beltran to the Royals for Omar Infante?

    • FriarFlyer

      Jones…Infante has 3 more years on contract

      • Bertin Lefkovic

        So what? Beltran has two years on his. The Yankees would probably have to split the difference on their contracts anyway. Infante gives the Yankees another option in the infield, but because his money is replacing Beltran’s, they wouldn’t be compelled to start him over another infielder who is performing at a higher level.

    • Some Asshole

      Papelbons!

      • Bertin Lefkovic

        I would trade Beltran, Drew, and Carpenter to the Phillies for Brown, Papelbon, and Utley.

  • Sir Didi Nakamura
    • Some Asshole

      I’ll never understand having to protect a brand or whatever, but it must feel nice to be so secure as to let this shine through on a regular basis.

  • trr

    Only a matter of time before Texeira goes down with one injury or another…