Refsnyder hits first HR as the Yankees down Sox 8-6 to take the series

DotF: Severino dominates in AAA; Judge and Sanchez pick up hits in the Futures Game
Fan Confidence Poll: July 13th, 2015

The Yankees took the series against Red Sox in Boston and they will head into the All-Star break on a positive note. Fantastic! Not only that, Rob Refsnyder recorded his first hit and home run of his career — the latter turned out to be the difference of the game. Personally, I felt that it was a better Nathan Eovaldi outing away from it being an A-grade game, but an 8-6 win is a win. I’ll take it.

(Source: Getty)

Five innings, 102 pitches

In the first two innings, Eovaldi didn’t really allow any damage — only two hits allowed but no runs. The bottom third though: Eovaldi could have gotten out of it scoreless. With runners on first and second and one out, Xander Bogaerts hit a bouncer right up to middle that just barely missed Eovaldi’s glove. Had he caught that, the Yankees would have (maybe) turned a double play to get out of it. Instead, the ball eluded Eovaldi’s glove and trickled into center field for an RBI single. He’s having that kind of year.

The next batter, Pablo Sandoval, hit a 1-2 count 86 mph slider, driving it to the right field for another RBI single. 2-2. Hanley Ramirez followed it up with another grounder to center that went past the infielders for the 3-2 lead. Eovaldi really wasn’t getting many breaks in this innings. After that series of events, he induced two non-threatening grounders to get out of the inning. Eovaldi induced six grounders in that inning and only two of them ended up being outs. BABIP!

Six grounders, four singles, two outs
Six grounders, four singles, two outs

After a three-up, three-down fourth, Eovaldi was up to 87 pitches, which is more than 20 per inning. No bueno. His velocity was there, he was throwing splitters and mixing pitches – he just had trouble putting hitters away. He did throw another clean shutdown inning in the fifth, needing 15 pitches to do so.

So yeah, overall a mixed start for Eovaldi. Well, to be fair, Red Sox offense had been on a rise, and there was some subpar luck in the third. To his credit, he threw strikes (72 strikes in 102 pitches) and struck out four in five innings. Not too shabby. Eovaldi’s first half ends at 9-2, 4.50 ERA/3.54 FIP in 93.0 IP. There’s no major statistical improvement shown in his peripherals besides the ground ball rate (44.8% last year, 50.0% so far in 2015). He throws hard, throws strikes, but gives up a lot of hits and can be frustrating – but remember, he’s still pretty young and he’s on pace for a fWAR around 3.0 for the year, which is not bad at all.

(Source: Getty)

The rallies

New York had three multi-run innings today. In the second, with no score yet, Brian McCann drove a two-run homer … over the Green Monster. How about that, an oppo-bomb for a dead pull guy! According to our Katie Sharp, this is the first time he’s gone oppo since June 2013 so yeah, that’s that. 2-0 Yankees.

Fast forward to top fifth – with Red Sox then leading 3-2 – McCann went oppo again. Instead of a homer, it was a double. Chase Headley followed it up with an infield single to get the runners in corners with no outs. With Didi Gregorius at-bat, Miley made a pick-off attempt to first and … got called a balk! A balk! As the YES broadcast noted, lefty pick-off moves are very, very subjective and Angel Hernandez didn’t like what he saw in Miley’s motion. Headley advanced to second and McCann touched home for a 3-3 game.

Things became fun to watch in the sixth. Brett Gardner reached on an infield single and A-Rod followed it with a sharp double to left for an RBI. 4-3 New York. Mark Teixeira lined out softly but Chris Young picked him up by hitting a huge double that hit the Green Monster to drive Rodriguez in. Farrell substituted in Tommy Layne for Miley and a batter later, Headley hit another RBI double to make it 6-3 Yankees. Three RBI doubles in an inning – why couldn’t it be like that more often?

The later innings

As the game entered the bottom sixth, Joe Girardi put Adam Warren in for Eovaldi and I definitely thought it was the right move. An inning each for Warren – Wilson – Betances – Miller sequence, right? However, Warren only faced three batters and allowed an earned run – a Hanley Ramirez double and a Shane Victorino RBI single. Warren’s command had not looked sharp in the past two outings but I’m not too worried – pitchers go through these kinds of funks during the season.

Justin Wilson came in to avoid further damage and that’s exactly what he did. Despite allowing a single to Mike Napoli, Wilson retired Ryan Hanigan and Mookie Betts to escape the sixth with a 6-4 New York lead. In the seventh, he got two outs and made way for Dellin Betances, who struck out Hanley Ramirez on three pitches to end the inning.

Bottom eighth was a bit dicier for Betances. Alejandro De Aza squared up a fastball for a single (which could have been a double if it weren’t for Jacoby Ellsbury‘s efficient route to ball) to lead off. Betances did get the next two batters out but he walked Ryan Hanigan put tying run on base. Mookie Betts came to at-bat. Betts has made himself an indispensable player for Red Sox. After a slow start, he’s now hitting a solid .277/.328/.464 line for a 115 wRC+ and 3.0 fWAR this season. Also, he’s only 22! He’s going to be a stud in the majors. Unfortunately for the Sox, Betts struck out on a nasty 2-2 count curveball down on dirt. Dellin doing what Dellin does.

(Presswire)
(Presswire)

Refsnyder has Seoul!

Let’s take it back to the top seventh. As Robert Refsnyder led off, the YES broadcasters noted that he has yet to have a big league hit … and then almost immediately, the second baseman lined a Tommy Layne fastball to right-center for a single.

Now, onto the top ninth. Alexi Ogando was the pitcher. Headley had reached the base on a walk and Gregorius followed it up with a fly out. In a 2-2 count on Refsnyder, Ogando hung a slider up in the zone and Refsnyder missed absolutely none of it – a towering two-run homer that almost cleared the Monster seats for an 8-4 Yankees lead. How about that for the first career ML homer? For the Yankees, against the Red Sox, at Fenway Park and over the Monster! That’s gotta be a near-perfect dream scenario for a lot of the kids out there.

A slight nail-biter

Because this is a Yankee – Red Sox matchup, of course it’s not going to end easily. Ex-Red Sox Andrew Miller came in the ninth to close it out. He walked Brock Holt but followed it up by striking out Xander Bogaerts. The next batter, Pablo Sandoval, hit a little nubber towards the third base line. McCann attempted to barehand it and throw but he bobbled the ball on the first try. He did make a solid throw to first but the ball hit the heel of Teixeira’s glove and Sandoval reached safely, making it one out with runners on first and second.

Hanley Ramirez, the next batter, hit a comeback bouncer to Andrew Miller, setting up a tailor-made double play situation. Miller then threw perhaps a bit across the body and the ball sailed far too right for Refsnyder to handle. Brock Holt scored on the mishap to make it 8-5. I thought Miller’s was more at fault but the official scoring called it an error on Refsnyder for missed catch.

De Aza hit a sacrifice fly to shave the lead down to two. With two outs and runner on second, Shane Victorino popped out to Didi to end the game. Phew. That 2-run homer by Refsnyder in the ninth turned out to be quite crucial, ain’t it?

Box score, updated standing, video highlights, WPA

Here’s today’s box score, standings, highlights and WPA.


Source: FanGraphs


Yankees don’t play another meaningful baseball till Friday – they will host the Seattle Mariners for a three-game series on the weekend. But for now, enjoy the 3.5 lead in the AL East through the All-Star break and have a good rest of Sunday!

DotF: Severino dominates in AAA; Judge and Sanchez pick up hits in the Futures Game
Fan Confidence Poll: July 13th, 2015
  • Rob Reddardfsnyder

    Best win of the young season, Mike. I thought Refsnyder’s home run put the perfect cap in the 1st half of the season and foreshadowed that the future of this franchise rests with these next crop of kids that are coming up from the minors. Stopped the Sox momentum – They are now 7 games back in the loss and will be sellers at the deadline. I think this ballclub is poised for a run to gain separation from the rest of the mediocre division. I think they’ll push it up to a 6-7 game lead by the end of the month. Refsnyder stays. Ryan goes.

    • n0exit

      But do you think he has enough pride in the pinstripes?

      • hansdee

        I think he showed as much will to win as any Yankee rookie I’ve seen since Brett Gardner.

  • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

    9-2, 4.50 ERA/3.54 FIP in 93.0 IP.

    Considering what we know in getting Eo (the good and the bad), the above stat line is not bad at all. Signs of improvement here and there would be much appreciated, but as Mike said, he is still young. Would not be surprised at all if next season is bounds better (though to be fair, it could also go the other way, knock on wood).

    • RetroRob

      Those eight runs in 1/3 of an inning against his former team sure hasn’t helped, but he’s been solid.

      • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

        I just don’t have time right now, but I wonder how his stats would look minus the extremes (both the good and the bad).

        Obviously it doesn’t work that way as both those disaster and great starts happened, but it just makes me wonder.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I hereby declare 7/12/15 to be “Rob Refsnyder Day.”

    Can’t help but feel sky-high for him right now. Refsnyder confidence level at a 10.

    All in all, yeah, I’d say it’s been a pretty damn nice first half. Best I’ve felt about things in a couple of years.

    • Thuds81

      kinda glad he went 0-3 that first game. didnt peak too soon, you know?

  • blake

    5 game lead in the LC heading into the break…..pumped about that.

    Joe managed the game brilliantly today…..got 5 out of Eovaldi and then pieced together the rest……great win and I’ll say a pretty great 1st half.

    Congrats to Refs….he’s making his case so far

    • bernbabybern

      Unfortunately Girardi is obsessed with defense and the only way you get around that is if you’re a veteran (Beltran). I have a bad feeling about what they will do with Ref, I hope they surprise me.

      • Dalek Jeter

        They did leave him in today, I absolutely expected Girardi to go to Drew for the Lefty/Righty matchup and leave him in for defense in the 9th but he stayed with him and was rewarded with a homer.

        • bernbabybern

          Yes, but that really smells like a decision he didn’t make. He always goes for the “platoon advantage” even if there is no advantage, and defense, but now he doesn’t for a guy that just came up?

          • Literally Figurative

            So now cashman is telling Girardi to play someone who Girardi doesn’t trust, at fenway in a big game?

            Not really seeing that angle.

  • Tony Wilson

    The Yankees are 1 of 3 teams in the AL with 3 players with 50 rbi are more and are 2nd in runs scored. The offense was great and seems to be getting better with Ellsbury returning and Refsnyder’s addition, now get a reliable pitcher to go alongside Tanaka and Pineda and they should gain even more separation. Great 1st half!

    • Adam

      Reliable like Adam Warren was?

      • hansdee

        No. Better.

  • Jim Buley

    Wallace Matthews is already writing an article on espn about how the yankees are just showcasing ref and he’s making a huge deal of his missed catch in the ninth inning. God Wallace. Just enjoy the good the kid did!

    • n0exit

      This gives me waaay more confidence in Refs. If Wally the clown says something, expect the exact opposite to be true.

      • Jim Buley

        Ha exactly. But did anyone else notice girardi very calm and kind of blah when he talked about refs? Maybe it was just me. Also Michael kay seemed blah today too. His calls had no emotion.

        • Deep Thoughts

          He was wearing #64. Nothing says “SWB Shuttle” more clearly.

          • n0exit

            JRM still waers 66. DB wears 68. A lot of guys keeping high numbers now. No way Refs gets a decent number in his rookie season. If he sticks around, he should wear 24 just for kicks.

            • Robinson Tilapia
            • Deep Thoughts

              Dellin’s #68 is part of his intimidation factor, referencing his height.

              I can only assume Murphy’s #66 is a tribute to Rick Cerone or Brad Gulden’s #6 the way Boomer wore #33 to honor Babe Ruth’s #3. /s

              But look at all the other #64s just this year: Rumbelow, de Paula, Lindgren. Last year it was Cesar Cabral, Chris Leroux, and Chaz Roe.

              If Ref sticks, I hope and expect he won’t wear #64. I’d vote for #24 also, no disrespect to CY or Scott Sizemore.

              • n0exit

                Damn. I didn’t realise that. Lindi got hurt though.

                JRM waers 66 because he wants to channel his inner Puig.

              • n0exit

                Damn. I didn’t realise that. Lindi got hurt though.

                JRM waers 66 because he wants to channel his inner Puig.

              • hansdee

                They have been sort of running out of numbers below 30. Even a few above that.

              • hansdee

                I still can’t believe they gave away Sizemore’s number so quickly. The ink wasn’t even dry on his DFA notice.

              • gageagainstthemachine

                Scott Sizemore…
                Where have you gone?!
                http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2sbp.gif

              • Adam

                or Robbie Cano?

                • Deep Thoughts

                  Who?

            • Deep Thoughts

              Dellin’s #68 is part of his intimidation factor, referencing his height.

              I can only assume Murphy’s #66 is a tribute to Rick Cerone or Brad Gulden’s #6 the way Boomer wore #33 to honor Babe Ruth’s #3. /s

              But look at all the other #64s just this year: Rumbelow, de Paula, Lindgren. Last year it was Cesar Cabral, Chris Leroux, and Chaz Roe.

              If Ref sticks, I hope and expect he won’t wear #64. I’d vote for #24 also, no disrespect to CY or Scott Sizemore.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          It’s hard to emote while profusely masturbating at the same time.

          • hansdee

            We all should know that by now.

        • n0exit

          Girardi has been lukewarm about Refs. I didn’t believe it when I first read it on here, but looking at his interviews its true. Probably doesn’t mean anything, maybe he just doesn’t want to put any pressure on him and repeat ST.

          As for Kay, who cares. He seemed pumped enough during the HR call though.

          • Adam

            Screw Kay. Sterling’s call had enough emotion for everyone. :)

        • Deep Thoughts

          Girardi also said, IIRC, that they expected Tanaka to be a #3 or #4 rotation option. I think he is still tempering expectations for the player’s benefit.

          EDIT: Plus see previous comment about ephemeral Scranton Shuttle uni #64.

        • Deep Thoughts

          Girardi also said, IIRC, that they expected Tanaka to be a #3 or #4 rotation option. I think he is still tempering expectations for the player’s benefit.

          EDIT: Plus see previous comment about ephemeral Scranton Shuttle uni #64.

        • hansdee

          I’ve always gotten a blah feeling where Kay is concerned.

    • MB923

      ESPN pays him to tear apart the Yankees. I once asked him why all his articles bash the Yankees, and he’s like “I get paid to do what I do”. Then he blocked me

      That guy is such a clown.

      • Deep Thoughts

        This is a network that employs Skip Bayless and creates programming around the concept of the “hot take.”

        http://www.psmag.com/books-and-culture/a-brief-history-of-bad-sports-writing-64380

        • hansdee

          Skip Bayless is the absolute worst.

          Great article by the way. I loved this. “The most obvious legacy Dick Young left sports writing is the idea that it’s a sports writer’s job to serve as the self-appointed moral arbiter of sports.”
          Lord, that is so true, in almost all journalism, but especially sports these days.
          BTW, even though it got panned in the article I still love that lead in to Grantland Rice’s Four Horseman piece. BTW, Score was 13-7.

      • Thuds81

        I actually have good banter with him. He writes far too much about boxing than I care for, but he really only blocks someone who is being rude or name call-y. You sure you didnt call him a moron or anything. He gets a lot of that.

        • MB923

          I don’t think so. It was like 2 years ago.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      ….and you clicked on it. Point to WallyMac.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Wally Mac is the reason I’ll never be able to get into sport writing. That was a good 15000 words and basically all he said was “Refsnyder is a promising hitter but still very much a work in progress.”

  • Thuds81

    Def dont think McCanns throw was that solid. It ran into the basepath so Tex had to try to catch and move his arm in so as not to get it all Brian Roberts-ed. Had that throw not been so off the mark Tex wouldve caught that no doubt.

    • Asher Dratel

      McCann rushed waaay too much on that play considering who was running, and yes, he threw it way too much into the bag.

      • Thuds81

        And how could that error be on Ref instead of Miller. What a terrible terrible throw. Threw it real hard too…. juuuuuuuussssst a bit outside.

        • gageagainstthemachine

          “Ball one. Ball two. Ball three. Ball four. And Vaughn has loaded the bases on sixteen straight pitches.”

  • blake

    Yanks all the sudden have a better record than the Astros (who have hit the skids) and are tied for the 2nd best record in the AL in the LC…..

    • Deep Thoughts

      Amazing what happens when your rightfielder with his 130 OPS+ and 13 HRs goes on the DL. The Yankees dodged the Ellsbury Beltran and Miller bullets pretty well, all things considered.

  • Asher Dratel

    I think Ref and Miller should get .5 E each for the throw in the 9th. Ref stuttered for a second, but Miller’s throw was waaaay wide.

    • Asher Dratel

      ALSO FUCK YES REF HR WAHWHWGDFHBWVHJEBFHD

    • Thuds81

      gotta throw to the base not the player (or the RFer lol) .25 REF and .75 Miller and you got yourself a deal

  • Jim Buley

    Would Yoi guys include refs I a trade for a big time pitcher? God I hope they don’t trade him. They finally have a home grown guy who could be a mainstay. I fear it’ll happen though.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      He’s certainly not untouchable.

    • Jim Buley

      You* in*

    • Asher Dratel

      I honestly don’t want them to trade for an SP unless they’re going to either move an existing one (which, for a rental, would probably be a bad move) or take CC out of the rotation for whoever they get.

      • Jim Buley

        They have a stud in AAA waiting. Why trade for one lol

        • Robinson Tilapia

          He’s not untouchable either.

          • Dalek Jeter

            This. I like Severino, and I’m happy he’s doing well, but there are still big questions about whether his mechanics will allow him to start long term, so I’m totally okay to give him up in the right deal for the right player.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              I honestly do think they’re pretty smitten with their high-end and near-MLB guys right now. While I’d give some of them up in the right deal, I really don’t think they will.

              If I could pick an 80’s pop song to describe how the org feels right now, it’d be…

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQyazt4RDTM

              • n0exit

                I agree. Cash has worked hard to put those pieces together. I don’t think he’ll move the top 3 or 4 guys. Everyone after that should be available IMO.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Both watching Refsnyder out there today, as well as the slow migration of guys to AAA, gave me this “holy shit, they really are going to try to roll as many of these guys out there as possible” epiphany. I think they hoard right now.

                  Check back with me tomorrow, though.

                  • n0exit

                    I was shocked drew didn’t come in for defense. I think that’s telling.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Same.

              • W.B. Mason Williams

                Lots to love in AAA right now. If only Jagielo were healthy, we’d be dealing with an abundance of those “young core” obsessives, except it’d be a little tough not to agree with them just a bit.

              • Macho Man “Randy Levine”
                • Robinson Tilapia

                  No.

                  • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

                    What? I didn’t read your comment. I just posted that because it’s Sunday, it was pleasant, and I live in the Lehigh Valley

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Mickey Dolenz looks very interested in Belinda Carlisle above him.

                    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

                      Micky Dolenz. Jeez.

                    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

                      Micky Dolenz. Jeez.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Whoops.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I mentioned this in the open thread earlier…I only want a pitcher if it’s a legit ace…and in terms of acquiring a legit ace nobody but Judge (and maybe Mateo) is untouchable.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I don’t know why you liked this Sir Didihrino, l did say anybody. *evil laugh*

        • Sir Didihiro Refsamura

          You sneaky sunovabitch

      • HoopDreams

        Seems about right, maybe another reliever. Outside of that not much, Zobrist interest is waning. An aging rental, meh.

        • Dalek Jeter

          If there’s a deal to be made for Myers, Upton, or Shields from San Diego I really think they’re the right offer away from a fullblown fire sale.

          • HoopDreams

            Shields maybe. Myers, meh. Upton sounds interesting but Id rather just keep developing Judge and give him a shot next year.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Upton’s a pure rental, FA after the season.

              • HoopDreams

                You’d probably have to include one of a Judge or Severino for him Id imagine, a pure rental not sure it’s worth that.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  Judge should be off the table for any rental, depending on the rest of the package I may give up Severino for Upton.

                  • HoopDreams

                    I hate giving up much for a rental, If Im going rentals it’s for smaller cases like McCarthy or Headley. Just me though.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    No, sir.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    No, sir.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Also, don’t be fooled by Myer’s WAR, they’re playing him in CF, his offensive numbers, .277/.327/.459 .182 ISO have been very good. Plus he’s only a year and a half older than Judge and has legit ML experience already. I wouldn’t include Judge in a deal for him, but I’d definitely go after him.

              • n0exit

                He gets injured a lot. But I love his bat flip.

                • hansdee

                  That’s worth 1 WAR alone.

                • hansdee

                  That’s worth 1 WAR alone.

      • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

        How about if it is for a trade for a 2012 Pineda type pitcher?

        Not YET an ace (during the trade) but is already a pretty good pitcher, with the potential to be an ace.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Name me that pitcher. :)

          • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

            EOVALDI. Boom. Mind blown.

            Hahaha. Seriously though, I just realized, we really did good on that Pineda trade eh?

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Oh yes, we did.

              • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

                I mean, I think it is clear we won the trade and all, but to be able to find (for the lack of a better word) Pineda and make the right trade at the right time, wow.

                Imagine if we didn’t trade for him at that time, and he developed as such, how much of a haul he would get now.

          • Dalek Jeter

            DeGrom, Bauer, Wacha, and Hutchison are all guys I think fit that mold

            • Robinson Tilapia

              The answer to at least half of those involves a cocaine heartbeat.

              • Dalek Jeter

                If we’re still talking about a Refs centered package for any of those guys, fuck yeah, cocaine heartbeat. I’d probably do Severino/Refs for any of those guys easily.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Not sure on Bauer and Hutchison, but the other two? How could you not? Both teams hang up on Severino/Refs before you finish the question, though.

                  • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

                    Severino/Refs/Mitchell/Mateo?

                    I don’t know, MTPS.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      *Grabs Mateo back from you* No. Don’t trade that burrito for a good burrito now. That’s going to be an amazing burrito down the line.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      *Grabs Mateo back from you* No. Don’t trade that burrito for a good burrito now. That’s going to be an amazing burrito down the line.

  • Jim Buley

    Why is this thread so quiet? Lol. The one time I actually take part in the thread. Maybe it’s me.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Nah, just a slow night.

      • RetroRob

        People are “posted out” from the game thread and open thread.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          It’s also been a been of a cultural shift from the days when the overnights were as busy as daytime around here for a while now.

  • Robert

    You got to seize the moment when the opportunity presents itself. Hope Ref does it. I think Joe will play the kid as a regular and evaluate as we go along.
    Just disappointed on the Williams/Healthcott injuries they really fell on bad luck.
    Flores is probably the best of the 3 that kid can hit field and has a rifle arm.

    • Jim Buley

      Do we actually know what happened to masons shoulder?

      • Robert

        60 day DL can’t be good
        Just seeing Cabrera call for the trainer on that play made me think it was serious

      • n0exit

        Inflammation. He’s had surgery on that shoulder so its not really good news.

        • Austinmac

          I think it partially dislocates on a recurrent basis.

        • Austinmac

          I think it partially dislocates on a recurrent basis.

  • SweetSpot

    “9-2, 3.54 FIP and on pace for a fWAR around 3.0 for the year” . . . I’d say that pretty damn good coming from the NL to the land of the DH. Anyone who doesn’t think that was a good deal is cuckoo.

    • Literally Figurative

      BUT TEH BGDP!!!

  • Jim Buley

    Is there anything better then hearing arod just shut those boos up from the sox fans? I’m the first to say imam completely flabbergasted with the first half he had. He looks like he’s gonna go hard every at bat. He looks confident up there. Imagine he saves his image and gets a ring this year???

    • Jim Buley

      Pardon my autocorrect. iPads suck to type on.

    • W.B. Mason Williams

      I’m 100% behind 2015 A-Troll.

      F*** the other fans. F*** the self-righteous players. F*** the commissioner’s office.

      Their tears are delicious.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I want them to boo louder. He feeds on their boos.

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    The last 10 games for AL East teams is looking pretty ugly for everyone except us and Boston.

    • n0exit

      And Boston is still 7 games back. What happens when they hit a .500 stretch?

      • HoopDreams

        Harold Reynolds is still in the Fenway booth inside a force field claiming the Sox are getting on a roll.

  • SweetSpot

    I really hope Cashman doesn’t pull the trigger on a Hamel or Cueto deal if it will cost multiple top prospects. I think this team has the personnel to win, including the starting pitching and I don’t want to take the chance of losing someone as young and talented as Severino. Imagine if he is dealt and he becomes a perennial All-Star; his lower half not-withstanding. Yes, all prospects are a roll-of-the-dice but at some point you should bet on your home grown, young, cost controlled talent. Yankee fans have been saying that for years; it’s time to give that a shot. You need luck to stay healthy Cueto and Hamel’s arms could fall off just as easily as Tanaka or Pineda’s. Stay the course . . . this team can win.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      “You need luck to stay healthy Cueto and Hamel’s arms could fall off just as easily as Tanaka or Pineda’s”

      …..and Severino’s.

      Love,
      The Devil’s Advocate

  • Adam

    Send Refs down! Kid has only 1 HR all year. Drew is rockin’ 12 for the year!

  • dkidd

    john farrell is a staggeringly terrible in-game manager

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Right? I don’t watch them daily, but all my Red Sox fans complain, and you could see it this weekend.

      • dkidd

        and they said the same thing in toronto

        he must be really good at working with the front office

      • NH Yankee fan

        I see them all the time with NESN up here and I must admit the Boston talk shows bash them more than not.. I’ll give them that..

      • NH Yankee fan

        I see them all the time with NESN up here and I must admit the Boston talk shows bash them more than not.. I’ll give them that..

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Right? I don’t watch them daily, but all my Red Sox fans complain, and you could see it this weekend.

    • villapalomares

      I missed the game. What in particular did he mismanage?

      • dkidd

        most egregious was leaving a tired miley in to pitch to 2 straight lefty-killers

        you can go overboard with platoon advantage but this was a no-brainer

      • dkidd

        most egregious was leaving a tired miley in to pitch to 2 straight lefty-killers

        you can go overboard with platoon advantage but this was a no-brainer

    • villapalomares

      I missed the game. What in particular did he mismanage?

    • hansdee

      Grady Little bad?

      • Tom

        Leaving a tiring ace on the mound in a game 7 is hard to beat.

      • Tom

        Leaving a tiring ace on the mound in a game 7 is hard to beat.

    • hansdee

      Grady Little bad?

  • Austinmac

    I’m a generally decent person, but I do find myself enjoying reading the misery in the Boston newspapers. They do anguish quite well.

    • hansdee

      They always have. Spent some time living in Providence. They’ve had years of practice. It’s what Yogi meant when he told Bernie Williams, “These guys have been trying to beat us for 80 years.”
      They excel at anguish.

  • Tom

    Did John Sterling have a home run call for Refs?

    • bernbabybern

      “Refsnyder has Seoul”

      Lame imo, but not because of “racism”.

      • Asher Dratel

        You can’t do a spelling-based pun in an audio-only medium. That’s just day 1 stuff there John.

        • hansdee

          Very likely there were fans asking, “I thought the kid was Korean? What’s he mean about Soul?”

      • Asher Dratel

        You can’t do a spelling-based pun in an audio-only medium. That’s just day 1 stuff there John.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I mean it’s the sorta folksy racism a guy like Sterling can get away with because you know it’s not malice, but Asher’s point of spelling based puns in an audio medium combined with the fact that Refs came here when he was like 8 months old pushes this one straight into lame territory for me.

        • ScottinSJ

          At least he didn’t say, “Refsnyder has just given me a severe case of yellow fever.”

        • ScottinSJ

          At least he didn’t say, “Refsnyder has just given me a severe case of yellow fever.”

        • hansdee

          Face it. Sterling will one day have his picture in a dictionary next to the word Lame.

        • WhittakerWalt

          It irritates me that his homerun calls for both Refsnyder and Ichiro were based on nothing other than their Asian-ness.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            The worst was his call for Gary Sheffield when he’d say, “it’s a home run….from a black guy!”

            No shame, Mr. Sterling.

            • Tony Wilson

              The guy is an idiot and as a black guy I find that remark ignorant and offensive and no players ethnicity should be brought up when he does his antics.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                You know I made that up, right?

                I guess I could be swayed otherwise, but I don’t have an issue thus far with the Refs call. His ethnicity and story are out there for the world to see. One is not defined solely by their John Sterling home run call.

          • Tony Wilson

            Why oh why can’t Vin Scully be cloned!!!! Lol

      • Dalek Jeter

        I mean it’s the sorta folksy racism a guy like Sterling can get away with because you know it’s not malice, but Asher’s point of spelling based puns in an audio medium combined with the fact that Refs came here when he was like 8 months old pushes this one straight into lame territory for me.

    • bernbabybern

      “Refsnyder has Seoul”

      Lame imo, but not because of “racism”.

  • Tom

    Did John Sterling have a home run call for Refs?

  • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

    I hope they do give Ref an extended opportunity in the big leagues.

    However a part of me says that this is the Jesus Montero situation again.

    • Still Stucky

      Well, they were right about him…

      • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

        Can’t argue with that.

      • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

        Can’t argue with that.

    • Still Stucky

      Well, they were right about him…

  • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

    I hope they do give Ref an extended opportunity in the big leagues.

    However a part of me says that this is the Jesus Montero situation again.

  • Dalek Jeter
  • Dalek Jeter
  • BigBlueAL

    Dont think we could have realistically asked for a better 1st half than this for the Yankees. When was the last time the Yankees were in 1st place at the All-Star break and missed the playoffs, 1987??

    • ScottinSJ

      Overall, you’re probably right. 48 – 40 is better than I and most of us expected. I still don’t think we know what this team really is. Then again, this whole division is one large crapshoot. But I’ll take a 3.5 game lead. If the starting pitching improves just a little, the chances for a postseason appearance are pretty good.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Man, I sorta feel bad for Greene. I was sorta hoping that both he and Didi would both be above average.

  • RetroRob

    Pirates/Cardinals game does not want to end. The Cisco Kid ties it up in the 10th.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Ishikawa will end it here.

      • RetroRob

        One batter off!

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      This series has been incredible.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Possible NLCS preview.

        • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Dr. Martin van Nostrand

          Probably not. St. Louis has the best record in the NL by a decent margin, and if that holds, it would be, at best, another NLDS meeting. I hope I’m wrong on that.

    • n0exit

      Man, Cisco is great. I’m always rooting for that guy. And that team is perfect for him.

    • GPU

      Eddard orgasm.

  • Frittoman626

    The Great Gazoo tied the game!!!

  • Frittoman626

    PIRATES!!!!

  • RetroRob

    Wow. Great ending to the Pirates game. Two nights in a row. Rosenthal is no Mo…or Miller!

    • Frittoman626

      Imagine RAB if Miller would have blown a game like that with 2 outs.

      • RetroRob

        That’s a fun game to watch as a baseball fan, but that’s crushing to a Cardinals fan.

    • n0exit

      The cards are due for some losses. Pirates are a fun team to watch. So many fistpumps from everyone.

    • bardos

      Speaking of the Pirates.
      Does anyone remember that slugging Korean shortstop Jung Ho Kang? He of the 40 home run, .356 BA and 1.198 OPS 2014 season in Korea? He was among the Yankee signing rumors over the past winter and eventually signed by the Pirates. He’s been more or less a full time player and has now played 2/3 of his games at 3B. His 1/2 season stats are .268 // .348 // .732 with 4 big bangs.

  • Centaur Hips

    Considering their playoff odds right now, I think the front office should really be aggressive at the deadline. With an advantage in the standings and better players on paper this team could become an easy division favorite and it’s always a good idea to improve for the postseason. If that means improving the rotation despite already having 5 healthy SP, so be it.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I go back and forth, because obviously I want the Yankees to win this year, but at the same time I really think they should only be in the market to make a big splash, but at the same time I want to hug the big prospects. I don’t think McCarthy or Prado make enough of a difference to justify the move, but I really like the core of prospects their building and would only want them to blow it up for the perfect move.

      • Dalek Jeter

        “Blow it up” isn’t something they’d do anyway…but like even move one or two big names.

        • Frittoman626

          There isn’t really much the Yankees could add at the deadline without giving up much. They could try and buy low on a Latos, but the Hamels/Cueto and maybe Samardzija’s will cost quite a buck. Zobrist and Clippard as well.

      • Tom

        I guess the argument for not hugging the prospects is that they aren’t Kris Bryant, Carlos Correa, Bryce Harper or Mike Trout…….

        • n0exit

          So they aren’t in the top 0.01% of all prospects?

          • Tom

            Devil’s Advocate about hugging prospects. Severino and Judge are close to elite and Bird is not far behind.

      • Centaur Hips

        I would hold on to Severino and Judge since they’re pretty much elite prospects that could fill current weaknesses on the team, but considering the amount of parity right now everything else should be on the table IMO. Only need maybe 1 bat at 2B and 1 SP anyway and they don’t need big names for either.

  • Centaur Hips

    What the heck happened to mlb.com?

    • Dalek Jeter

      I have no idea but some programmer is not going to have a job for very much longer.

    • n0exit

      Their admins are on All star break.

    • RetroRob

      Looks like a 1997 World Wide Web page.

    • Centaur Hips

      Looks like the bottom of the page is fine at least.

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      So I’m not the only one.

  • GPU

    The Yankees will go into the break with a bigger divisional lead than the Cards. Betcha didn’t see that one coming!

    • Sir Didihiro Refsamura

      I think we all saw the coming after Ref’s bomb

  • Asher Dratel

    I think we also need to talk up Didi’s play on the final out. Victorino didn’t just hit a standard pop-up to short, he hit it into shallow left and Didi ran it down and made a great over-the-shoulder catch for it.

    • Tom

      He’s come a long way since the first few weeks of the season when almost nothing went right.

    • Sir Didihiro Refsamura

      Yes we should always talk up Didi

      • Asher Dratel

        I like the new name.

        • Sir Didihiro Refsamura

          I’n gonna keep it for fear of jinx

      • Monterocouldstillbedinero

        He played well but Tex sure saved his butt when he couldn’t keep his feet on throws.

        • Sir Didihiro Refsamura

          Didi’s butt? I approve!

          • Monterocouldstillbedinero

            Did you see the play?

    • Dick M

      I think Didi is coming around a bit but a good high school SS makes that play.

  • vwnut13

    Part of me wants to see Jesus Montero outperform Robinson Cano, part of me wants him to do, meh.

    • n0exit

      Nah, Robbie is too good. I bet he turns up to Yankee stadium all guns blazing.

      • Monterocouldstillbedinero

        Not sure if Montero will play against righties even though if he played everyday he would do fine. He will play against CC though.

        We lost one Robbie. Now we have another!

        • n0exit

          Please don’t go there. Some guy on twitter comped Refs to Derek jeter. I couldn’t believe someone could do something that dumb.

          • Monterocouldstillbedinero

            Actually Refs first hit was Jeterian and so was his homer. Just cause you don’t agree doesn’t make it dumb. Refs does not play the same position and certainly is not as highly touted or talented as Jeter was when he came up, but how he sprays the ball around and how much power he has may end up being similar hopefully. The Robbie comment was just a name comparison.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Don’t mess with the natural order of things.

    • https://twitter.com/missvykki vicki

      i hope they both go to the hall. not kidding.

  • Nick_CT

    What was the Sterling call for Ref?

    • Sir Didihiro Refsamura

      “Refsnyder has Seoul!”

      • WhittakerWalt

        Christ, that’s awful.

        • n0exit

          I think he was under prepared. I would suggest something like “Rob Refsmashed it”. More acceptable lame ness.

        • Sir Didihiro Refsamura

          Yup

  • rogue

    I hate it when pitchers suck at fielding. Give me an “e0” anytime. Stat-o-matic reference.

  • Veteran presents

    Quick question. Can you trade a player who is on the DL?

    • n0exit

      Im pretty sure You can. But doesn’t happen often.

    • Jman1213

      Yes. I believe Kelly Johnson was on the DL when he was traded last year.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Yes.

  • Mustang

    I’m happy.

  • calripyankee

    Don’t see how the first half could’ve ended better…

    • Mustang

      Sweeping the Sox.

  • Tony Wilson

    Tanaka, Pineda and CC pitch in the series against Seattle, good way to start the 2nd half?

  • https://twitter.com/missvykki vicki

    i have no doubt you have all rallied before me; we will not abide this seoul bullshit.

    john sterling, come correct.

  • MTU

    Morning.
    What would be the biggest single thing the Yankees could do to improve themselves by the end of the TD, i.e. what is their biggest need ?

    • Tony Wilson

      Starting pitching to help Pineda and Tanaka, with them being the only 2 reliable pitchers the rotation needs help.

      • MTU

        Such as who ?

        • Tony Wilson

          Depends on what prospects the FO is willing to give up, I would like for them to get Hamels if possible.

          • calripyankee

            Please no Hamels… All you’re doing is paying for his declining years..

            • Y’s Guy

              We only have 2 starters who are good enough to throw out there in the PS. If the Yankees went to go deep into October they need at least a #3 starter. You can’t possilby let Eo start playoff games.

              • calripyankee

                Eovaldi’s pitched pretty good lately, and was unlucky to a certain extent yesterday.. There have been a lot worse pitchers start a postseason game than him.. Don’t see the panic in starting Eovaldi’s in a postseason game..

                • Y’s Guy

                  7 hits in the first 3 innings yesterday, you can’t have that in the PS. Eo doesnt stack up against any of the other AL contenders #3 starters.

                  • MTU

                    I agree. I would not be confident w Eovaldi having a significant role in the PS at this point.

              • Tony Wilson

                Agree completely, there is no way Eovaldi starts a postseason game.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  I’d say there’s little way he doesn’t.

          • MTU

            Would a Mike Leake type be sufficent ?

            • Tony Wilson

              I honestly don’t know enough about him to make an accurate assessment about him, from what I here he is an innings eater but not much of a difference maker. They need to get someone, with CC having a bad year, Nova coming bad from TJ surgery and Eovaldi being wildly inefficient they need help.

          • MTU

            I see few guys, if any, that are untouchable in the right deal but that’s just me.

      • Austinmac

        I agree.

      • n0exit

        I don’t think Cueto is the answer. The injury and postseason history are red flags for me and at the price they’ll be asking for would really put me off. Hamels’ contract isn’t too appealing either, I don’t know if they would take on that much money and give up prospects.

        • Tony Wilson

          I agree on Cueto and to a certain extent Hamels but for me he is the only difference maker out there for me. Maybe they bring up Severino and that will be their deadline move to bolsterthe rotation.

          • MTU

            Where are they slotting Severino IYO ?

            • n0exit

              Cc DL or random spot starts for extra rest.

              • MTU

                So you see him starting rather than as out of the Pen ?
                They are not crazy wild about 6 Man’s.

                • n0exit

                  Not a 6 man, but during a 15-20 game stretch he may make one start and be sent back down to give guys an extra day. Then in September maybe he goes to the pen.

            • Tony Wilson

              Just me but there would be 3 slots locked down in Tanaka, Pineda and Nova and competition for the other 2 slots.

          • Y’s Guy

            I think they should at least give Mitchell a look as a starter. He should get sent down and stretched out right away, imo. If someone goes on the DL next week, who’s stepping in Capuano?

            • n0exit

              Yep crappy is the sixth starter and we have esmil too. I think Mitchell’s time as starter this season is gone. You don’t normally see starters moved back and forth like that. Once you’re in the pen, that’s where you stay for the ROS.

              • Y’s Guy

                The Yankees have in the past stretched relievers out to start.

    • n0exit

      2b? Maybe they move Refs. I’m sure that would dissappoint some and I’d be hesitant because you probably can’t get full value on him due to lack of polish but if cashninja can pull something off…
      Otherwise, maybe a starter. But it really depends on the price/player we would get. I don’t see the value in giving up 6 years of a good player for 3 months of a pitcher who could fall apart in the postseason.

      • MTU

        Who specifically would you target ?

        • n0exit

          Still have a man crush on zob. If not, Ackley might be worth a look at a cheap price even if he just replaces drew and you keep playing Refs. I know Ackley is stinking it up but there is some upside there.
          Starting pitching is a struggle for me. I don’t see any great targets. Not a fan of Cueto, don’t see ownership taking on hamels’ and giving up severino. So then who’s left? I’m not sure anyone palatable is out there.

          • MTU

            Depends if you are looking for a major upgrade ?
            I see the need as a 3 type. A solid middle guy.
            So FWIS a guy like Kazmir, or Leake might work.
            I’m sure there are others.
            Obviously, if they want to go big we’re talking Hamels, Cueto, Price, etc.

            • n0exit

              Not sure what you do with a 3 in this rotation. Isn’t evo that guy? Who would they replace? Maybe a 3 of you’re replacing cc but if you pull anyone else I’d argue a mid rotation starter is probably a downgrade. I’d enquire on Price. Maybe move warren Flores Refs and a AAA reliever, but it depends how much they value warren.

              • MTU

                So would I re: Price.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      It’s a tough call. They’re committed to each player on the roster in one way or another, so you’d need to make a MLB for MLB trade. Maybe Eo as the centerpiece to acquire Price from Detroit?

  • calripyankee

    Why do anything?? The Yanks are in 1st place, the farm system is loaded with talent that’s available.. I don’t understand this Fantasy Baseball-type thinking, that feels the Yankees need go out and get a somebody because they need an All-Star at every position..

    • MTU

      You know they are gonna do something.

      • calripyankee

        I dunno? Maybe they shop S Drew?? He has some value as a SS with power.. I don’t see a major deal coming down.. If Tanaka and Pineda were limping along, then Maybe.. But, they both look strong.. And you have Mitchell, Warren and Severino waiting in the wings..

        • MTU

          I expect them to try to shore up what they think needs fixing.
          If they do it right they will be the Team to beat for sure in the AL East.
          They can’t afford to stand pat and I don’t believe they will.

    • n0exit

      You have too look for marginal upgrades. Ryan, Petit, drew and to a lesser extent CY are all bad players that are on this team. Also reluctantly I’ll admit there is some pitching questions too can’t just sit on your hands you have to look for some better options at a reasonable price.

      • TheEvilUmpire

        Young is a good player as long as they don’t overexpose him. His role is defensive replacement and spot starter against lefties.

        • n0exit

          I agree. He’s not as bad as the others. But he could be expendable if they make a trade for a player with a similar skill set. I don’t think he’s going anywhere though. The main point was that there is some room for improvement.

    • Tony Wilson

      I agree with you but at this point do you have any confidence in anybody in the rotation not named Tanaka or Pineda?

      • calripyankee

        I like Evo and Nova.. CC??? Not so much..

        • Tony Wilson

          You would have Eovaldi start a game 3 in the postseason?

          • n0exit

            Between him and nova, they could manage. The bigger story, if we ever get this far, would be cc not starting. Still don’t like talking playoffs, so much baseball left.

            • Tony Wilson

              Hypothetically speaking of course when talking postseason but I suppose they could manage with Eovaldi and Nova.

          • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

            I would.

            • Tony Wilson

              I respect that but here are numbers that matter to me: 4.5 ERA, 18 starts -98 innings pitched = an average of 5.4 innings a game!!! The 5.4 innings a game reek of inefficiency and inconsistency, he is 9-2 due largely to run support.No way he starts in the postseason.

              • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

                Power pitchers reign supreme in the post season.

                • Tony Wilson

                  If said power pitcher doesn’t throw 20+ pitches an inning maybe he could stay in the game long enough to “reign supreme “.

                  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

                    A.J Burnett didn’t have that problem in the playoffs and he was a five & fly pitcher in the regular season

              • Robinson Tilapia

                You forget that, were he to start for us in the postseason, it’d mean that all that didn’t stop us from getting there.

                Stronger pen. Shorter series. I’m game. Captain Eo: WS MVP.

                • Tony Wilson

                  I respectfully disagree and won’t hold my breath on the Captain Eo WS MVP but I guess there’s always hope. 5.4 innings pitched a game!!!!!

                  • 86w183

                    Ivan Nova is also below six innings per start. Based on what I have seen from the two I would trust Eovaldi over Nova. If you are saying no way he gets a post-season start then you are putting CC AND Nova ahead of him and I don’t agree with that.

                    • Tony Wilson

                      Cool, Nova has only a handful of starts so the same scale can’t be used with hIm as Eovaldi. Eovaldi has 18 starts and pitched only 98 innings as of now he wouldn’t start for me in the postseason but we have the whole 2nd half for things to shake out, hopefully the Yanks make the postseason and this topic will come into play.

          • calripyankee

            Eovaldi’s beaten DET, HOU, LAAs and BOS in 4 of his last 5 starts only giving up 3 ERs once (yesterday).. Who else do you want him to beat??

            • Tony Wilson

              CC beat Boston, LAA and pitched a complete game 2-1 loss in Detroit so what, Eovaldi is 9-2 mainly due to run support and he rarely gives length. Too inconsistent for me, could he turn it around? Of course but for me right now no way does he get a start in the postseason.

              • Y’s Guy

                They felt they had to pull him because they were afraid he couldnt make it through the A’s lineup a 3rd time! I think it’s pretty obvious they won’t trust him in a PS game and they will get someone else.

                • Tony Wilson

                  Agreed, don’t get me wrong I want him to succeed but the guy is averaging 5.4 innings a start, not good.

                  • Y’s Guy

                    I’ve added and streamed Eo on my fbb team since he came up, I was very familiar with him before we got him and he’s always been the same, except the Marlins just left him out there longer as they were not competing.
                    I was and am still happy with the trade, the upside was just worth it and Prado, who I like was probably at Max Value. But I have no illusions about what Eovaldi is right now and what he isn’t is a PS starter.

              • calripyankee

                Eovaldi hasn t won a game in which he’s given up more than 3 ERs. .So the “run-support” argument is a little over-rated..

                • Tony Wilson

                  5.4 innings a start isn’t.

                  • calripyankee

                    Well.. His pitch counts aren’t incredibly high.. And, Girardi’s taking him out for Warren, Shreve, Wilson, Betances and Miller.. If he was taking him out for Capuano or Rogers, then I might agree.. That’s the extreme case of not having confidence in your pitcher..

                    • Tony Wilson

                      True

          • Robinson Tilapia

            If Eovaldi as a #3 didn’t stop you from getting to that postseason….

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Define “confidence.”

        • Tony Wilson

          Lol, in this sense feeling good that the team has a very good chance to win a postseason game and the pitcher will give you an opportunity to win.

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      I feel like fans want to make a change for the sake of making a change.

      • Greggreen

        I say start Ref for the next 3 weeks and see where we are at.

        • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

          & guess what … he’ll preform well , while some other team in the A.L east makes a huge splash which will send this fan base into a huge panic.

      • n0exit

        There are some marginal upgrades possible. Nothing huge. I don’t think a big starter is necessary, but I wouldn’t put the house in Refs. Like I said below, there are a few bad players on this roster that could be upgraded.

  • MTU

    Tigers need BP help desperately and are said to be willing to listen on Price.
    How bout Warren, Wilson and Flores for a Price rental ?

    • calripyankee

      Warren would start for DET.. You’d probably have to substitute Betances for him anyway..

      • 86w183

        No chance in hell the Yanks deal Betances for a half season of anyone.

    • 86w183

      Morning MTU —-

      I wouldn’t want a rental unless it’s Justin Upton. Pitching-wise the only guy I would give up quality for is Hamels because he is signed to a decent contract beyond 2015.

      • MTU

        JU can be had but is he a likely target ?

        • 86w183

          Don’t see how they can not be interested. He’s a terrific young player and gives them desperately needed RH power. As always, it depends on the price…. and in this case the willingness to have Beltran as a very expensive bench player.

          Of course you would hope to have a chance to try and sign him long term.

          • blake

            I’d just like to rent him the rest of 2015 and then let Judge take over RF in 2016…..Judge might not be as good as Upton initially….but he will be 20+ million a year cheaper and that’s money they could spend elsewhere……

            • Re2pect

              yea its prob a judge and beltran platoon situation next year.

            • 86w183

              I’d like to see Judge more dominant in Scranton before handing him RF for 2016. An OPS of .703 doesn’t scream MLB ready.

        • Greggreen

          trade judge and serverino for hammels and buy upton in the offseason. BOOM, gameplan

          • calripyankee

            I wouldn’t trade Judge or Severino straight up for Hamels..

    • Greggreen

      so the tigers are going for need, even though they are selling?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Disqus ate half your trade proposal.

  • Monterocouldstillbedinero

    Getting rid of Ryan (whatever way possible) is my hope for the all star break. It would be a show of confidence in Refsnyder and a move forward not back. Addition by subtraction.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      At this point, they owe him less than $1m, $800k if another team picks him up. They only hold onto him if they think he can help the team, not for the money.

  • MTU

    Sorry. Mop walk time.

  • SweetSpot

    How about that we’re in first place and have an excellent team and we don’t make a foolish deal and mortgage our future.

    • 86w183

      Haven’t seen anyone propose a foolish deal that mortgages the future.

      At this point I hope Sanchez, Judge, Severino and Mitchell are off the table…. or at least three of the four. Yanks can be buyers, but they need to be smart buyers and I suspect they will be.

      • SweetSpot

        What would you call Sanchez, Mitchell, Bird and Jagiello for a SS when we already have a good one. ^^^

        • 86w183

          A bad deal, not a foolish one… and he wrote Bird OR Jags.

          Castro would only be acquired to be the long term answer at 2B, not SS. Don’t see a deal like that in-season because you have to be sure he’s on board with a position switch.

          • SweetSpot

            Good point. Moot though right? Not happening.

            • 86w183

              not in-season I wouldn’t think.

            • 86w183

              99 % of our blog trades aint happening, but it’s fun playing make believe G.M.

              • SweetSpot

                From that perspective, sure. Just personally since Cashman will probably make some moves, I’m more interested in realistic possibilities.

              • Greggreen

                is there another reason to make trade proposals?

          • Greggreen

            this was always a offseason trade. My bad for not being more clear

      • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

        Over under on R.A.B trade proposals including Judge based off the at bats he had in the MLB FUTURES GAME

        • 86w183

          4.5… I’ll take the over

      • Yankee Trader

        In keeping Mitchell, would you deal Warren in a package for a rental?
        Samardzija?
        Kazmir and Zobrist?
        What players are you interested in trading for?

    • Mustang

      Excellent is bit strong don’t you think.

      • SweetSpot

        No. I don’t.

    • JLC 776

      God dammit man, where’s the fun in that? Trade all of the kids for Felix. Now.

      • SweetSpot

        LOL. How can one resist that pitch.

    • Rob Reddardfsnyder

      Couldn’t agree more. Refsnyder, Bird, Judge, Severino, Mateo. These kids should be untouchable because they are the future of the franchise. We don’t need to sell the farm in a deal for Hamels or Cueto. I think they’ve got a good enough ballclub as is. Tanaka/Pineda are the 1-2 punch you need to win in the postseason.

  • Greggreen

    What would you guys give up for castro? hes still just 25 and has shown he can hit in this league. maybe moving to 2nd fixes some of his defensive limitations? Sanchez, wade, rookie davis? Or maybe we need to go with Sanchez, Mitchell, bird or jags

    • 86w183

      More of an off-season consideration. gotta make certain he is on board with a position change and I’m leery of doing that during a pennant race — boy that’s old school — post-season chase.

    • Rob Reddardfsnyder

      I’d offer CC Sabathia and NYY don’t pay one penny of the salary. That would be the only fair trade in an albatross for albatross type deal, and Castro is an albatross with his numbers. We already have a SS, we already have a 2B and they’re both here to stay for the next decade. There are more pressing needs.

      • Re2pect

        we can only hope

    • blake

      Any of that …..it’ll take more though probably and guessing the Cubs would want pitching primarily

      • Greggreen

        yeah i was kinda buying low on him. But we dont have alot of pitching to offer. Maybe take out wade and put davis and mitchell in the same package? I usually dont like to go over a 3 for 1 trade to keep it as realistic as possible

    • calripyankee

      Status quo..

  • blake

    The Yanks are a front line starter and a RH bat away from having a good chance to win a WS…..a lot of teams might be In a similar position ( a piece or two away) ….but whoever fills their hopes the best in the next month will have the advantage….and the Yabks don’t have as many holes as a lot of teams do

    • Rob Reddardfsnyder

      They already have two front line starters. How many do you need? A good 1-2 punch like Tanaka/Pineda is enough to win in the postseason. They don’t need to sell the farm for an ace pitcher like Hamels or Cueto. Last year Beane sold his future for two aces and he was out in one game.

      • blake

        Hamels isn’t a rental….and you can’t have too many good pitchers. He’d give them a Tanaka/Hamels/ Pineda rotation for the next 3 years after 2015….he’s not trading your future….he’s adding to it.

        • SweetSpot

          Too many teams want Hamels and the Yankees do not have the prospects it will take to get him without giving up their top players. The Phillies will want Judge and Severino to start in my opinion. No way in hell I do that.

          • Yankee Trader

            I’m not on the Hamels bandwagon. I think it’s a big investment for this particular lefty.

          • blake

            Nobody is gonna get him without giving up a top player …..and i don’t think it’ll cost both….probably 1 but not both. They have waited too long to get that level of return IMO

      • Yankee Trader

        Will Pineda have to be shut down because of approaching his max innings, ala Stephen Strasburg?

        Due to the health concerns of Tanaka and Pineda and the inconsistencies of Nova coming back from TJ, and the number base runners allowed by Eovaldi and CC, I believe they do need a quality starter.

      • DeutschlandNY

        LOL!

    • Tony Wilson

      Agreed, if they were to get Hamels I don’t see anyone in the AL stopping them. Speaking of the RH bat do you think there is any way they bring up Judge or Sanchez for a spell in the 2nd half.

      • blake

        It’s possible….though neither are probably ready to provide the level of impact they need

        • Greggreen

          a RH bat for what position? 2nd?

          • blake

            Or RF…..Refs might be ok at 2b….he’s got a couple of weeks to prove it

            • Greggreen

              I just hope they throw him out there and see what happens. Dont platoon him or anything. Starting second baseman for the next 3 weeks and lets see where we are at by the end of it.

              • blake

                Them not taking him out last night for defensive purposes was a little telling …..I really though they would.

                This could be an audition to see how much they need to make a trade…..if he plays well and the prices are higher than Cashman wants to pay for a guy like zobrist then he could back off that and take a chance with refs

                • 86w183

                  True… I also think many here overstate the Zobrist price tag/market. Don’t see where a ton of competition for him would come from.

                  • Greggreen

                    I think its the opposite, alot of people on here are understating the price and over valuing our own prospects

                    • 86w183

                      Who else among contenders is looking for a significant 2B upgrade? I can’t find anyone. I think you and others think this is 2008-2012 Ben Zobrist. It’s not. He’s 34 and hasn’t had an .800 OPS in three years.

                • Greggreen

                  yes that was a good sign, the fact that he was left in vs a good RH reliever is also a good sign.

                  only 2 games but his defense looked ok. Seems like he has some ability

      • calripyankee

        Not sure I agree with that… Have you seen Hamels’ stats vs AL teams?? I think his inter league stats are pretty awful..

        • Greggreen

          SSS no?

          • Greggreen

            Never mind. 190 innings and a 4.7 era

        • Tony Wilson

          Small sample, I think he would greatly help the rotation and have confidence that the rotation would be so much better with a top 3 of Tanaka, Hamels and Pineda.

          • Greggreen

            4.7 era in 190 inngs vs the AL….

            • Tony Wilson

              I would feel better about having a World Series MVP in the rotation that’s in his prime regardless of what his 190 innings against the AL looks like. I would him between Tanaka and Pineda and take my chances.

  • Greggreen

    Anyone know what sterlings Home Run call for ref was?

    • SweetSpot

      “Rob Refsnyder has Seoul. He hits a two-run homer into left, and the Yankees take an 8-4 lead!”

      • Greggreen

        thats disappointing

        • SweetSpot

          Very.

          • Greggreen

            and maybe a little bit racist, just a little

            • SweetSpot

              I though the same thing. Just a little.

            • Ewing33

              I just think people don’t really know the proper adoption etiquette (I don’t either). He probably saw where Refs was born, and innocently just came up with the home run call. But if Refs has no ties to the place at all, it just doesn’t seem right.

            • 86w183

              please….. he was born in Seoul, what the hell is racist about saying he has Seoul??

              • Ewing33

                I think the new term for it these days is that it is “racial,” not necessarily racist. But I honestly think it is just an adoption thing and maybe we are wrong here and Refs wouldn’t have a problem at all kinda honoring the place he was born.

                • 86w183

                  I can buy that. “Racial” remarks simply acknowledge or refer to race and/or ethnicity.

                  “Racist” remarks are intentionally demeaning and insulting.

                  • Greggreen

                    I just just a little

              • Game 3

                Ask everyone on the left.

              • Game 3

                GREAT question for Kabak, by the way. I’d love to hear his response and why he’s not saying Sterling should be fired and exiled.

      • Re2pect

        that needs work

        • SweetSpot

          It needs to be flushed forever.

        • Greggreen

          when you compare everything to Hinsky with your best shot, Fly me away. Everything is second class.

          • Re2pect

            indeed

            • Monterocouldstillbedinero

              Very hard to rhyme with Refsnyder so something with Rob would be better.

              OH ROB, A 4 BASE JOB!!!!

              • Tony Wilson

                Good, very good!!

          • Looser Trader FotD™

            Solarte was the absolute all time best.

    • Pkyankfan69

      “All aboard the Ruffryder Express!!!”

    • Rob Reddardfsnyder

      It’ll be a 2-2 to Refsnyder. SWUNG ON AND DRIVEN TO DEEP LEFT! IT IS HIGH! IT IS FAR! IT IS GONE! ROB REFSNYDER HAS SEOUL AND THE YANKEES TAKE AN 8-4 LEAD! OH HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT, SUZYN?

  • Yankee Trader

    Who started the practice of removing the helmet of the player who just hit a homer? ARod?

    • Ewing33

      It started by players removing their own helmet so teammates couldn’t pound on their head after hitting a homer. Then I guess it just evolved to teammates taking the helmet off for you … so they can start half pounding on your unprotected head, ha.

      • 86w183

        Yeah, they pound on the helmet, not on the uncovered head. Good idea to take it off

      • Yankee Trader

        Good one!

    • Monterocouldstillbedinero

      Not sure-probably. Speaking of ARod and helmets I noticed he has much less rosin on his helmet now. His helmet looked almost white the first few weeks of the season.

  • Yankee Trader

    This was probably already posted:

    Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders: W 8-1 vs. Buffalo Bisons

    CF Ben Gamel 3-5, double
    2B Jose Pirela 2-5
    DH Greg Bird 2-3, HR, 4 RBI, 2 BB, K – 2nd Triple-A homer
    1B Kyle Roller 3-5, 2 doubles, RBI, 2 K
    SS Dan Fiorito 2-4, RBI, BB
    3B Jose Rosario 1-4, RBI, BB, K
    C Juan Graterol 1-4, K

    Luis Severino 5 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K – 1.79 ERA with SWB
    Nick Goody 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, K
    James Pazos 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, K
    Caleb Cotham 1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, hit batsman

  • SweetSpot

    Deal Severino? Not a chance I do that.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      For Trout or Harper?

      • SweetSpot

        Come on. :/

  • Austinmac

    I very much doubt the Yankees even consider Upton. They still have 1 1/2 years to pay Beltran and have hope a Judge can replace him.

  • calripyankee

    This year’s team has a chemistry building.. I hope they don’t ruin it by making a lot of moves at the deadline.. Sometimes the best “team” wins it all, and not the team with the best collection of players.. Although the Yankees’ collection of players is pretty damn good..

    • SweetSpot

      Really good chemistry.

    • Rob Reddardfsnyder

      I agree, and Refsnyder has fit right in and not disrupted a thing. Not a single seoul should be suggesting that he be traded at the deadline.

      • Tony Wilson

        Lol

    • JLC 776

      I get the feeling that any moves will be in line with Cashman’s typical modus operandi these days – a couple of minor upgrades with the potential for a big upside. Probably a bat for the bench and another starter because you can never have too many options for the rotation. I wouldn’t expect a “big prospects for great rental” kind of move.

  • calripyankee

    Wonder why Severino wasn’t selected to pitch in the Future’s Game??

    • MTU

      He’s too good !

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      After what happened with Hughes almost potentially getting injured , they’ve strayed away from sending pitchers

      • blake

        Severino pitched in it last year

  • Yankee Trader

    Add to this list of starters you have heard that are rumored to be available:
    Hamels
    Cueto
    Shields
    Samardzija
    Leake
    Harang
    Latos
    Haren
    Kazmir

    • MTU

      Price.

      • Yankee Trader

        Thanks. Do you think Sabathia would waive his NT to return to his previous home-Oakland, the Yankees giving the A’s the bulk of his 2016 salary, not 2017 which needs to be vested, for Kazmir?

        Probably no chance”…….

        • MTU

          Correct. No chance.

        • Bertin Lefkovic

          You’re stuck paying CC one way or another. Why not pay him to play for somebody else? CC and all of the money due him plus Nova, Flores, and Pirela for Kazmir and Zobrist.

      • blake

        I don’t think they’ll trade him….it would be punting the season

        • MTU

          They were rumored to be willing to listen on him.
          Even w him they probably don’t have enough.
          Miggy out. Verlander under performing. Atrocious BP.
          Talk was they couldn’t bring him back anyways.

          • blake

            Maybe won’t be cheap

            • MTU

              No more than Hamels. Probably less as a rental.

              • Yankee Trader

                Would Price re-sign with the Yankees. His neighbor is Derek Jeter in Tampa

                • MTU

                  Sure. Show him the money is all.

              • blake

                Sure but it’s a rental ….Apples to oranges

    • JLC 776

      I hear there’s a team that would love to get rid of Sabathia even if they aren’t actively shopping him around.

    • blake

      Basically ….I’m only interested in Hamels or Shark.

      I think Cueto is the best of the bunch but I think his price will be too high for a rental…..Sharks might be more reasonable.

      Don’t think they will trade shields and the rest I don’t see as a real upgrade

      • Ewing33

        Shark has not been the same pitcher this year, and while his price will be more reasonable, it will still be high, and probably not worth it. My guess is Cash will try to find his McCarthy 2.0 and make a deal like that.

        • Yankee Trader

          Samardzija pitched a gem against the Blue Jays. Has pitched better lately.

          • Ewing33

            Even in that game he only struck out 5 over 9 innings. He is a mid rotation starter that has the name value of a top of the rotation guy.

        • blake

          He’s pitched much better lately ….I don’t think they need a McCarthy this year

          • Ewing33

            CC has been one of the worst starters in baseball for three years now. We don’t need to trade the farm for another ace. We just need a guy who can be average and the upgrade will be huge. Shark can be that, I just think he would cost too much in prospects and wouldn’t be worth it. But I obviously can’t call up the White Sox and find out.

            • blake

              They needed McCarthy last year because they had 3 starters hurt….that’s not the case so far this season…..if they could get a Latos really cheap then I’d be ok with it…..I just don’t see it making a big difference.

              And Shark….I don’t have a good handle on what his price will be….it should be lower than Cueto….enough lower though I don’t know

      • MTU

        If Kazmir is healthy he would be a good get.
        Check out his #’s this year. Really good.

      • Yankee Trader

        “Shields has a 4.01 ERA, 3.28 K/BB rate and a career-best 10.1 K/9 over 116 2/3 innings this season. Advanced metrics (3.30 xFIP, 3.25 SIERA) indicate that Shields’ 4.01 ERA is a bit high, as Shields has been hurt by a 17.9% home run rate — this number is not only well above Shields’ career average, it stands out even more as an outlier given that his home games are at one of baseball’s most notoriously pitcher-friendly ballparks.”

        • MTU

          Wouldn’t want to take on his contract.
          Don’t think Hal would either.
          Expect they are after a rental.

        • blake

          I’d take shields and his contract but I don’t think they will trade him

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      Who is the odd-man out of the rotation if the Yankees acquire one of these guys? Unless the Steinbrenners hire Howie Spira to mug CC, he isn’t going anywhere. Nova could be included in a package, but that seems to be the only way to upgrade the starting rotation.

      Hamels is the only one of the bunch for whom I would go nuts (Nova, Warren, Sanchez, and Severino for Hamels and Papelbon with no cash coming back). I would take Shields off of the Padres’ hands if it didn’t cost too much in terms of prospects. Nova and a couple of nonessentials would be good for me. Is Leake, Harang, Latos, or Haren an upgrade over Nova? Not enough to justify giving up a year of Nova. Cueto, Kazmir, and Shark are most certainly worth it.

    • Cool Yankees Dude

      Shields would be really expensive, wouldn’t he? I mean, that’s a multi year control deal, which I would like, but that would be costly. Sanchez plus others and that’s the bare minimum.

  • Yankee Trader

    My concerns about the current starters. Yours?
    Tanaka-health, hitters laying off the splitter forcing him to throw strikes.
    Pineda-health, innings limits
    Sabathia-health, decline. Too many base runners, no put away pitch.
    Eovaldi-too many base runners and hits. How long will he get enough run support to lead the team in wins?
    Nova-rust. Assortment of pitches. Strikeout pitch?

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    Here’s one more attempt at an outside-the-box solution to the Yankees’ impending roster crunch: DFA Chris Capuano and get by with a six-man bullpen until September 1. Capuano has thrown a little more than 11 innings over the last month. Is there any reason to believe that the 15-20 innings that he might throw over the next 6-7 weeks could not be divided elsewhere? Mitchell, Shreve, and Warren can all give the Yankees multiple innings. Going with 14 position players and 11 pitchers for the next 6-7 weeks gives the Yankees more than enough depth for any game situation that might be thrown at them going forward and in my opinion gives them the best chance to win.

    • 86w183

      I’ve always been opposed to 12-pitchers as a wasted roster spot. You can probably deal Capuano for a non-prospect and save a few $$. When Mitchel throws strikes he’s really fun to watch. Love his ceiling.

      • Bertin Lefkovic

        I agree. I don’t think that it would kill anybody’s arm to go with 6 RPs for 6-7 weeks, especially when you have six really good pitchers like Miller, Betances, Wilson, Shreve, Warren, and Mitchell. Any of those guys could be used in any inning.

        • Greggreen

          yeah but you need someone to take the bullet when a starter leaves in the 2nd inning or its a 7 run game and you dont want to use the good relievers

          • Bertin Lefkovic

            When you have six good relievers, there is no harm in using someone like Mitchell, Shreve, or Warren in occasional mop-up duty. For every early-inning appearance, it would not be a bad thing to get them the occasional three-inning save.

            Like I said, we are only talking about 15-20 innings over the next 6-7 weeks to be divided up. That is a small price to pay for both infield and outfield bench depth.

            If given the choice between DFAing or optioning Capuano, Jones, Refsnyder, or Ryan, I think that the answer is obvious. Capuano is by far the least essential of the four players.

            • Greggreen

              ….idk you could make the argument that with drew on the bench that ryan is more useless than a long man in the pen.

              • Bertin Lefkovic

                Not really, because I could see there being plenty of late inning situations where the Yankees would pinch-hit for Didi or Drew with Refsnyder or Young against a tough LHP and also need a late-inning defensive replacement for Refsnyder. A 4th MI and a 5th OF are both more valuable than a 7th RP. Mitchell, Shreve, and Warren can all pitch in short or long relief when needed.

                • Greggreen

                  having 2 backup utility infielders is more of a luxury than anything

                  • Bertin Lefkovic

                    Not nearly as much as a 7th RP. The Yankees have been carrying 4 middle infielders for a while now, have been using all of them, and will most likely continue to use them. If anything, the return of Beltran is making Jones more extraneous, but still not more than Capuano.

                    • Greggreen

                      you have to consider girardi. He like to have a mop up man and rest his Main guys. When would ryan even play? Drew would be a defensive replacement at 2nd and a pinch hitter for ref if need be. Are you really gonna pinch hit with bredan ryan? Unless you think Ryan is the Starter at SS vs LHP.

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    As much as I love it when a Yankee hits a HR into the short-porch in RF at Yankee Stadium, I don’t think that there is anything prettier than a moonshot over the Green Monster in LF at Fenway Park. I am not sure if that is because of the high arc that is required or the fact that it is just plunging a knife into the chest of a Red Sox fan, but I cannot think of anything that possesses more majestic beauty than that.

    • Aldukes

      were you singing that tune when Ortiz hit the ball over the monster off of Gordon way back when?

      • Bertin Lefkovic

        Of course not. I am writing strictly about Yankee HRs. As gorgeous as Reggie’s 1977 WS HRs at YS were, there was something even more special about Bucky Dent’s blast at Fenway in 1978. If I were to build a ballpark, I would give it a short porch in RF like Yankee Stadium, a Blue Monster in RF like Fenway Park, and black seats in CF like Yankee Stadium.