Scouting The Trade Market: Texas Rangers

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Gallardo. (Presswire)
Gallardo. (Presswire)

As the trade deadline draws closer and closer, the Rangers are falling further and further back in the race. They won last night but have lost three of five since the All-Star break and 18 of their last 25 games overall. Yikes. That’s dropped Texas to nine games back in the AL West and six games back of the wildcard spot. FanGraphs gives them the lowest postseason odds in the AL at 3.0%. (The projection systems hate their roster, I guess.)

The Rangers are in neither buy nor sell mode — Evan Grant writes they are in “opportunist” mode, looking for ways to improve the roster. I’m pretty sure that’s a nice way of saying they’re selling. Texas has some awful contracts on the books — it’s a stars and scrubs roster, though several of the stars are playing like scrubs — and not a ton of trade chips, but they do have some rental arms to peddle. Do any make sense for the Yankees? Maybe! Let’s look.

RHP Yovani Gallardo

Gallardo is easily the most marketable rental player on the Rangers, and he’s having quite the walk year: 2.91 ERA (3.68 FIP) with career best ground ball (50.8%) and home run (0.61 HR/9) rates. His walk rate (8.7%) is identical to his career average and his strikeout rate (16.2%) is a career worst. As I noted in the mailbag last week, Gallardo has gradually been trading strikeouts for ground balls over the years (graph doesn’t include his most recent start over the weekend):

Yovani Gallardo K GB

The strikeouts for grounders things is the kind of adjustment you usually see an older pitcher make, not a guy yet to turn 30. It’s weird. Usually a decline in strikeouts is a red flag, but this has been going on so long I have to think it is at least somewhat intentional. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather have the strikeouts than ground outs, but Gallardo has found a way to make it work.

Beyond his performance this year, Gallardo has also been very durable the last few seasons, throwing at least 180 innings each year since 2009. He’s also had a minimal platoon split because of his five-pitch repertoire. There’s a little something for everyone:

% Thrown Avg Velocity Whiff % GB%
Four-Seamer 31.5% 91.7 5.4% (6.9% MLB AVG) 42.4% (37.9% MLB AVG)
Sinker 22.2% 91.7 4.6% (5.4%) 60.2% (49.5%)
Slider 29.0% 88.6 10.3% (15.2%) 48.2% (43.9%)
Curveball 12.6% 80.0 10.6% (11.1%) 61.1% (48.7%)
Changeup 3.9% 86.1 6.8% (14.9%) 54.6% (47.8%)

The swing-and-miss rates are comfortably below-average across the board while the ground ball rates are well-above-average. That fits into the whole “trading strikeouts for grounders” thing. Gallardo’s probably not going to get you a swing-and-miss at key moments — runner on third with less than two outs, etc. — which is an issue and limits him to a mid-rotation guy.

Gallardo played a half-season with CC Sabathia back in 2008, so the Yankees have some access to firsthand knowledge of him as a teammate and a clubhouse guy, though it was a long time ago. People change. At the end of the day, Gallardo is a rental starter pitching well in his walk year because he gets grounders and can neutralize lefties. His durability and affordability ($6.5M through the end of the season) are pluses as well. He’s not Johnny Cueto or David Price, but Gallardo belongs in the second tier of rental starters alongside Scott Kazmir and Jeff Samardzija.

What Would It Take?: Ken Rosenthal says the Rangers are currently listening to offers for Gallardo, for what it’s worth. Considering recent trades involving similar rental pitchers, it appears it will take a package of three pretty good prospects to land Gallardo, or perhaps two prospects with one being a high-end guy. Matt Garza was traded for four prospects two years ago, including Mike Olt, who Baseball America ranked as the 22nd best prospect in the game before the 2013 season. I do think Gallardo is a qualifying offer candidate, so the Rangers have no reason to take back something worth less than a supplemental first round pick. Gallardo’s not going to come as cheap as, say, Mike Leake or Ian Kennedy.

Magic Wandy. (Presswire)
Magic Wandy. (Presswire)

LHP Wandy Rodriguez

The 36-year-old Rodriguez is at the tail end of his career and it’s hard to think he has much trade value. He was released at the end of Spring Training, remember. So far Wandy has a 4.07 ERA (4.12 FIP) in 84 innings with Texas, though both his strikeout (18.3%) and ground ball (41.9%) rates are below-average. Not a good combination! Especially when your walk (8.9%) and homer (0.96 HR/9) rates aren’t great either.

The Yankees already have a version of Wandy Rodriguez on the roster in Chris Capuano. They’re extremely similar as finesse lefties who can soak up some innings and pitch at a slightly below league average rate. Do they really need two guys like that? Nah. Rodriguez doesn’t have much appeal beyond being a warm body who can take a rotation spot in case of injury. I’m sure the Rangers are open to trading him. There’s just not much of a reason for the Yankees to bring Wandy in.

What Would It Take?: Roberto Hernandez, the pitcher formerly known as Fausto Carmona, was traded for two players to be named later last summer. The two players were ranked by Baseball America as the No. 22 (2B Jesmuel Valentin) and No. 29 (RHP Victor Arano) prospects in the Dodgers’ system before the trade, and both were down in rookie ball at the time of the deal. Wandy shouldn’t cost more.

Rua. (Presswire)
Rua. (Presswire)

UTIL Ryan Rua

Off the board? Yep. Fill a need? Potentially! Rua, 25, is a right-handed hitting utility guy with experience at the three non-shortstop infield positions as well as left field. (He came up as a third baseman, primarily.) Most of that experience is in the minors — Rua has only 47 games and 172 plate appearances of big league experience, during which he’s hit .251/.273/.401 (82 wRC+). That includes a 43 wRC+ in 63 plate appearances this year. (He missed two months with a broken bone in his heel.)

The Rangers came into the season expecting to use Rua as the right-handed half of a left field platoon, but his injury threw a wrench into things, and now he is a seldom-used bench player. In fact, he has only 18 plate appearances this month. Rua is a career .291/.368/.476 (121 wRC+) hitter in Triple-A, including .327/.364/.558 (.374 wOBA) against lefties. Baseball America (subs. req’d) ranked him as the eighth best prospect in Texas’ system before the season. Here’s a snippet of their scouting report:

Rua is an offensive-oriented prospect who has plus power and can take the ball out of the park to all fields. He starts his swing with a leg kick, keeps his weight back and his head still. Rua can get long to the ball, with some concerns about his ability to hit good offspeed pitches, but his swing is fluid, and he squares up the ball frequently … He’s surprisingly athletic for his body type, though he’s a below-average runner and adequate-at-best defender wherever he goes, making the routine plays at third base with an average arm.

The Yankees are said to be looking for a right-handed bat, which Rua is, though there’s no guarantee he’ll actually hit Major League pitching. He has good minor league numbers, the scouting report is decent enough, and he offers some versatility. As an added bonus, Rua has at least two and possibly all three minor league options remaining. He seems like a potentially useful depth player. Not a star, probably not even a starter, but maybe a platoon bat or a guy off the bench.

Thanks to those minor league options, the Yankees would be able to stick Rua in Triple-A until rosters expand on September 1st, then use him as an extra platoon bat in the final month of the season. He still has five years of team control remaining, though that’s not a huge deal with players like this. What are the odds Rua hangs around long enough to play all five of those years with one team? I dunno, Rua just seems like a possible fit given the team’s positional needs and interest in adding a righty bat.

What Would It Take?: I’m not sure there’s a good way to approximate this. Players like Rua are often traded as part of packages for MLB players — they’re the guys who go to the team that is selling, not the other way around. Juan Francisco was traded for an MLB ready reliever (J.J. Hoover) a few years ago. That’s the best reference trade I can come up with.

Rotation help should be priority, but improving bullpen is a good Plan B
Yankees have a favorable second half schedule as they look to run away with the AL East
  • OldYanksFan

    I like the idea of Ryan Rua. Seems like a buy-low, little downside proposition… providing of course, it doesn’t cost us any prime farmhands.

  • Tom

    Half the AAA team for Gallo.

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Don’t toy with me like that.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Judge, Headley (gotta clear a spot for him), and Warren for Gallo.

        • calripyankee

          Then the Yankee fan base, with the media leading it by the nose, would be crying about all the strikeouts..

      • LazerTown

        Hensley straight up.

  • Baked McBride

    The Texas dynasty really crumbled fast. Nolan Ryan jumped ono the faster horse just in time…or is he the one that MADE it go faster after he jumped?

  • Baked McBride

    Anyone recently look at the rankings for top farm systems as of say, 2010? Has even ONE top ranked team’s pile of can’t miss prospects worked out? The ranking system is great water-cooler fodder but otherwise is just another bs cottage industry.

    • Preston

      The Rays were number one in 2010 Desmond Jennings, Jeremy Hellickson, Wade Davis and Matt Moore were their top ranked guys. Above average OFer, useful SP, elite reliever, mid rotation starter. Down the list you also have guys like Alex Cobb and Jake McGee. That’s a lot of production from that crop.

      The Royals were number one in 2011. That’s Hosmer, Moustakas, Myers, Odorizzi, Cain, Ventura.

      It never all works out with every guy becoming the star, but usually top farm systems do have a big impact.

      • LazerTown

        Didn’t you hear? If one guy doesn’t make it big then the whole system is Broken.

        • Baked McBride

          My point is that the only system that I think is broken is the Ranking system. It’s pointless. It’s like trying to predict the stock market. Geez, as nuts as LoHud was, Im starting to think this site is worse. Fly bys and venom. Guys just looking to pick aruguments if you them.

          • LazerTown

            Well I see that probability is a bit too complex for you.

            • Baked McBride

              not true – my calculator tells me that you are probably a doosh

          • Preston

            You obviously have a strong opinion about this, but it isn’t overly supported by facts. Yes, top prospects, and even top systems might not always produce as expected. But they usually do produce good value. You asked about 2010, or even one year where all those can’t miss prospects worked out. Well 2010 to me is an example where they did. The next season 2011 is also a good example. The top system from this season (the Cubs) already have their top 4 prospects in the majors, Bryant looks like a star, Soler and Russel are promising, and Schwarber is crushing the ball in limited time.
            There is a strong correlation between individual prospect rankings and success, and there is a strong correlation between a strong system ranking, and a systems success.

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    Gallardo is appealing for sure. The problem is when you say something as vague as “it appears it will take a package of three pretty good prospects to land Gallardo, or perhaps two prospects with one being a high-end guy”, there will be people on here throwing out Pirela, Mitchell and Flores packages and getting indignant when people think they’re joking.

    • Some Asshole

      But they’ve all been to the majors! Cashman just hates the kids and doesn’t realize what a core group that is!

    • Chip

      even worse are the people who think that’s too much to give up.

      • Literally Figurative

        “AUSTIN AUNE FOR GALLARDO. WHO HANGS UP FIRST?”

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      They’re not wrong. The market is flooded with good pitchers at the end of their contract. Nobody wants to give up quality prospects for two months of a starting pitcher, no matter how good they are. The Yankees will probably be able to swap Nova plus a couple of marginal prospects for an upgrade rental at the deadline. Mark my words.

      • craig

        So marked…

      • W.B. Mason Williams

        I guess it depends on what kind of upgrade you’re talking about, and what you define as a “marginal prospect”. But if you’re thinking Nova is a centerpiece for a Gallardo trade, I think you’re wrong.

      • W.B. Mason Williams

        I guess it depends on what kind of upgrade you’re talking about, and what you define as a “marginal prospect”. But if you’re thinking Nova is a centerpiece for a Gallardo trade, I think you’re wrong.

    • Preston

      Okay, but I’m not giving up much for a half season of Gallardo just because his current ERA is shiny either. I’m not usually a guy to say a ton of prospects are off limits. But I’m not even giving them a top 7 guy (Judge, Severino, Sanchez, Mateo, Bird, Jagielo, Refsnyder in my opinion) and I’m not trading Torrens or Clarkin when they’re injured and at a low value either. Probably means we can’t get it done. So what’s left, Wade, Andujar, Cave, Flores, Mitchell, Lail, Rookie Davis, the injured OFers, relief prospects and Pirela? The Rangers can take their pick. But like you said, that’s probably not what they’re looking for.

  • Stan

    Gallardo will cost more than I’d like to give and no to the rest.

  • Dalek Jeter

    I like Gallardo, but not at the price being quoted here. I also wouldn’t be totally against Rua for a lottery pick type prospect (Campos?), but would really rather just go with Refs.

  • Game 3

    They’re all losers.
    – D. Trump

    • LazerTown

      Was gonna say the same

      • Game 3

        “I mean who’d you rather have starting game 3 of the World Series? Yovani Gallardo? Or Donald Trump? Of course, me. Yovani couldn’t get a pre-schooler out. He’s just a real loser and a pig”

        • Freddy-says

          “….but I hear that occasionally he’s a nice guy.”

          • Game 3

            Haha. Exactly.

  • LazerTown

    When are we scouting the Phillies? That one should be fun…..

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Pass.

  • LazerTown

    No fielder? I’m sure bertin can come up with a 5 team deal that works.

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      Are the Rangers even shopping Fielder now that he is healthy, hitting, and relatively inexpensive? If so, the Mets should offer Duda, Niese, and a couple of mid-level prospects for him.

      • Aldukes

        that wouldn’t get it done but i’m so curious what the Mets do (if anything at all) because they definitely have the pieces to get something big time back but do you even think about trading any of those guys? Going to be interesting.

        • Bertin Lefkovic

          Considering the size of the contract that the Rangers would be dumping, why wouldn’t Duda, Niese, and prospects be enough to net Fielder? If the Mets really wanted to go all-in, they could probably get Andrus as well and only have to give up Flores. If the Rangers were really interested in a fire sale, the Mets might even be able to get Beltre for Gee and another prospect.

          So what is the grand total for this deal? Andrus, Beltre, Fielder, and what the hell, why not grab Choo as well, since the Mets would never add any of these contracts to their payroll anyway, for Duda, Flores, Gee, Lagares, Montero, Mejia, Niese, and Montero.

          Somewhere in Flushing, old man Wilpon just had a stroke.

      • Preston

        Even with the Tigers kicking in 30 MM the Rangers still owe him 90. I wouldn’t call that inexpensive for a very heavy, 32 year old, DH who has neck surgery in his past.

        Edit: And the Mets are apparently hesitant to add Zobrist’s remaining 3 MM to the payroll. So just the around 10 MM Fielder is owed the rest of this year would probably be prohibitive to them. Let alone the 90 MM after.

        • Bertin Lefkovic

          Relatively inexpensive compared to Albert Pujols.

          • Rick

            Everyone is inexpensive compared to Pujols

            • Bertin Lefkovic

              This is true. That said, what the Rangers are paying Fielder per year going forward is not terrible. Will he continue to hit as well as he has this year until 2020 is anybody’s guess.

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    Is Rua any better than Pirela?

    • Dalek Jeter

      Most likely yes.

    • calripyankee

      I doubt it..

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      That’s what I call a consensus.

    • RetroRob

      Yes, but that’s a low bar.

  • Robert

    Who is this guy on the Trenton Thunder Named Billy Fleming? Very limited history with Yanks but 180 career minor laegue AB’s and hitting .370 !!!
    A 2B is he a legitimete prospect???

    • Tom

      He could be a filler.

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      Give him 100 at bats at AA before we remove the ‘Org Guy’ tag from him.

    • Game 3

      I thought he was a LOOGY!

  • Rick

    Thoughtful analysis as always from Mike … but I believe I’ve reached the conclusion that I don’t want anything to do with the Texas Rangers unless they get confused and think Odor is Rua.

  • Y’s Guy

    Escobar, sorry i mean the Nats next best hitter. anyway they’re talking hammate, just speculation

  • blake

    Good post…..don’t really want any of these guys

    • Aldukes

      haha same.

  • Tony Wilson

    Let’s scout Colorado! :)

    • Tom

      Their SS is worse than Didi……

      • Tony Wilson

        Stand up comic??

        • Tom

          Sarcasm is fun.

          • Tony Wilson

            Lol, it sure is. It’s a known fact that Colorado wants pitching so I would offer Severino,Clarkin,Warren and Sanchez for their SS.

            • Bob Loblaw

              I wish that was remotely close to what it would take to land Tulo.

              • Asher Dratel

                With every passing day (and every passing press conference) it becomes more realistic. (I still don’t want Tulo, honestly.)

                • Aldukes

                  I don’t want Tulo and never did (honestly)

                  • Tony Wilson

                    So you wouldn’t want a top 10 player in baseball at a premium position batting behind Ellsbury and Gardner and in front of Tex?? That’s crazy, and by the way he’s not on the DL and hasn’t been all season. Lol

                    • Aldukes

                      I know it sounds crazy lol but I’m thinking down the line with this one. To give up the farm and then buy into his contract for a guy who’s had two hip surgeries playing shortstop. It’s just not the route I want the Yankees going in for the future. Of course I’d want him in this lineup this year but I just think it’s the exact opposite direction that the Yankees need to go in IMO.

                    • Tony Wilson

                      Understandable but you would keep Judge, Bird, Mateo.

                    • Aldukes

                      would we though? I mean I don’t think we’re getting Tulo without giving up Judge, Sev, and prob even Gardner.. i just don’t see the Rockies just giving us Tulo.

                    • Tony Wilson

                      Okay, Judge,Severino and Gardner plus others? That concludes my chase for Tulowitzki! Lol

                    • OldYanksFan

                      Correct.

                    • OldYanksFan

                      Correct.

                    • Sir Didi Nakamura

                      Why was A-Rod killed in your scenario?

                    • Some Asshole

                      Centaurs tend to fall to Greek demigods.

                    • Tony Wilson

                      Ellsbury, Gardner, Tulo, Teixeira, Arod, McCann, Beltran / Young, Headley, Drew, Refsnyder.

                    • OldYanksFan

                      Well… right now Tulo is 26th in OPS (in MLB) and 70th in bWar. He plays a premium position, but I’m not sure if he is still a Top 10.

              • Tony Wilson

                I meant Severino, Nova, Clarkin and Sanchez and all of the salary.

            • Sir Didi Nakamura

              I’m sure they’d want Didi

              • Tony Wilson

                Severino, Nova, Clarkin, DiDi and Sanchez.

                • Sir Didi Nakamura

                  Nova isn’t an enticing trade chip for a team unless they plan to contend next year. His value is actually very low right now if I had to bet. I think Warren might have higher trade value honestly.

                  • Tony Wilson

                    I agree with that, honestly it’s just a personal thing with me. I honestly think they can get to the postseason with what they have now and make noise when they get there.

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        Agreed. Non-biased opinion of course.

        *Flashback to last night*

        Sir Didi Nakamura: “Severino/Didi/Sanchez/Jagielo. I’ll drive the car to the airport.”

        In reference to Troy Tulowitzki.

  • blake

    Culver for Profar

    • Preston

      Even with two back to back lost seasons I’d trade something significant for Profar.

      • blake

        so would I to be honest

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        JUDGE

  • Rick

    Whatever happened to the RAB Digest?

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      I think the guy who was running it got busy. I forgot who was writing it, but I don’t think it was Mike.

      That bar that pops up on every RAB page is SUPER annoying though. Really wish it would get removed.

      Please!

      • Rick

        Agreed. Understanding that the guy getting the free material doesn’t really have a leg stand on, it would be nice to either get the digest and put up with the banner … or just remove the banner entirely.

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          That banner induces terrible OCD for me. I HAVE to get rid of it before I read and it’s annoying as hell.

          I’ll try emailing Mike about it soon, maybe.

      • Some Asshole

        Pretty sure it was Joe writing those. That seems to be my recollection. Was a nice morning read.

        • Rick

          I think you’re right. I loved it, thought it was great.

          • Sir Didi Nakamura

            Agreed, I would be okay with the bar if it was still around. I get it he was busy and that’s fine but that damn bar drives me crazy :/

  • Bob Loblaw

    I just have a feeling we are gonna land K Rod and a second tier starter.

  • Countdown Till Bryce’s a FA

    So the yankees august 1st, are without refsnyder, mason, campos, and 1 of the following judge,bird,or jagielo . But they don’t get back Hamels. Yankee fan mutiny?

    • Bob Loblaw

      Take Judge out of that second group and depending on the pitcher there wouldn’t be mutiny.

    • Y’s Guy

      So then who are we giving Judge up for?

      • Tony Wilson

        Trout or Harper

        • Y’s Guy

          In that case, the mutiny will have just a little less gusto.

          • Tony Wilson

            Lol

  • dickylarue

    Juggalo & Little Dante for Rusty Greer & Dean Palmer. Mission accomplished.

  • Tom_hamsandwich

    Wil Middlebrooks just got optioned to AAA, he has played a total of 2 games at second base and has been horrible this year, but would be worth it in exchange for a song and dance.

    • blake

      I’d trade Brendan Ryan for him and then DFA him

      • craig

        I laughed

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      Would he be better or worse than Refs?

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        Hopefully worse.

      • Tom_hamsandwich

        If 2nd base were a wall I would throw them both at it and see if either sticks.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      Cash considerations. $2

      • Some Asshole

        I have taken it under consideration and have decided to give you nothing.

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          ..

    • Frittoman626

      Middlebrooks is a right handed Drew with defense worse than Pirela 2nd. HELL. NO.

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      What song and what dance?

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        Thriller & Macarena combined.

        • Bertin Lefkovic

          That’s just wrong on so many levels. I would rather have Middlebrooks.

          • Sir Didi Nakamura

            Imaging those two combined is funny, give a try for real.

            • Some Asshole

              That’s what I imagine when I tell people to mate with themselves.

            • Bertin Lefkovic

              No. It would give me a brain tumor.

    • Some Asshole

      Everyone loved Middlebrooks so. Dude was a beast in The Show.

      Heh.

    • Tom

      ABC easy as 123.

    • Preston

      Not as a 2b. I’d give cash considerations, he can have Kyle Roller’s Scranton roster spot and he can play some 3b/Dh in AAA in case of an emergency. That is my level of interest.

  • Sir Didi Nakamura

    Can some team make a move already?

    • Asher Dratel

      This is gonna be a total floodgates year, I can feel it.

      • Bob Loblaw

        everyone says that every year

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          But does everyone say that every year at the EXACT same time?

          • Bob Loblaw

            Sir didi nakamura, you are just a legend at this point. Keep doign you.

            • Sir Didi Nakamura

              Hell yeah I am

              • Bob Loblaw

                That is the attitude we have gotten to know and love

                • Sir Didi Nakamura

                  My motto is be as big a dick as possible while being as cocky as possible. Also scoff at those lower than you. Which is everyone, because you’re the greatest.

                  • Tom

                    Like Bill Belichick.

                  • Bertin Lefkovic

                    Seems to be working for Donald Trump. If that is your model, go for it. Unless you have the Donald’s money, I think that it will more likely get you a kick in the nuts or a punch in the face.

          • craig

            This is gonna be a total floodgates year, I can feel it.

        • Asher Dratel

          I never claimed to be original.

        • Asher Dratel

          I never claimed to be original.

    • Frittoman626

      It would be hilarious if no trades ended up happening before the deadline. Is that even possible lol?

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      It is going to come down to the last day. There is no market for any of these rentals. Nobody wants to overpay in prospects for two months of a starting pitcher. Even though there could be a lot of teams buying, I think that the market has to come down to them.

    • blake

      teams will start getting real in a day or two…..everyone except the Phillies anyway

    • RetroRob

      I suspect we won’t see much of anything (if anything at all) before next week since the trade deadline is a week from this Friday. The gap in negotiations will narrow as teams get closer to the actual deadline.

  • Robert

    What is Aron Judge’s Injury not in lineup again.
    Has anyone been to a game and seen him on the sideline?

  • Frittoman626

    Lol at Stark talking about a potential offer from the Cubs to the Phillies. Supposedly it’s Castro and MAYBE Javier Baez with others for Hamels. If the Phillies got an offer like that, they should take it before the Cubs even have a chance to think it over. They would be stupid not to accept something along those lines, but knowing RAJ he would reject and tell them to replace Baez for Addison Russell.

    • Y’s Guy

      RA Jr. is a lame-duck GM, they’re not letting him make a decision that big.

      • blake

        Gillick is driving the trading Hamels bus….I guarantee it.

        • Y’s Guy

          and McPhail is staying as far away from that decision as possible.

          • blake

            wouldn’t you? Just blame the guy who left if it busts. If I was McPhail I wouldn’t touch it either……

            • Y’s Guy

              reap the benefits if there are any, and stay blameless if it blows up.

    • blake

      Castro is getting close to a salary dump candidate and Baez has lost his luster a bit as well…..

      • Y’s Guy

        This would indicate to me that the Cubs would assume all of CH’s salary. That’s not the prospect haul they’re looking for if they offlay some salary, imo.

      • Frittoman626

        Castro is still 25 years old and not even approached his prime. Baez could be a very good player or could become a total bust. But he’s the type of player that the Phillies should definitely take a chance on. Baez’s power playing in Citizens Bank Park sounds very scary for the opposing hitters.

        • blake

          not when you can get someone younger and cheaper who you can “take a chance on”

  • Countdown Till Bryce’s a FA

    I would still trade didi and a gaggle of others for tulo

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      Didi, Gardner, and Ryan for CarGo, LeMahieu, and Tulo with no cash coming back to the Yankees. Let’s get it done. If they want some marginal prospects to save face, by all means, send them.

      • Frittoman626

        As high as Gardner’s value is (probably the highest it’ll ever be), that trade would be highway robbery for the Yankees. Which would be the reason why the Rockies wouldn’t even waste their time hanging up the phone.

        • Countdown Till Bryce’s a FA

          I’d add refsnyder in there.

        • Bertin Lefkovic

          Why? They are desperate to dump CarGo’s and Tulo’s contracts. Would it be fairer if I was willing to give them Refs instead of Ryan?

      • GPU

        You forgot to add Drew and Arenado.

        • Bertin Lefkovic

          Didn’t want to be greedy.

      • craig

        So funny! Oh wait, you were serious…

        • Bertin Lefkovic

          Yes, I was. The Rockies are eventually going to get desperate enough to dump their contracts on some fortunate team. It might as well be the Yankees.

    • Mike Myers

      so would anyone with a heartbeat and not working for the rockies.

  • Bob Loblaw

    I really want cole hamels to get turf toe so reporters can say “Cole has serious case of Hamel Toe”

  • Mike Myers

    we could always get cano back. Ms would probably eat 100Mil at this point.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      I’d take him back if they ate the final 4 years fully.

      • Mike Myers

        yep. they would need a new GM for that to happen. Current guy would be signing his fate.

        • Y’s Guy

          Pretty amazing he still has that job.

      • Bertin Lefkovic

        That’s $96MM. I think that $72MM is probably more realistic. Drops the AAV down to $15MM/year. Would have had a better shot of getting that deal done before the All-Star break, when Cano was still sucking wind. You would probably be lucky to get $48MM now.

  • Monterocouldstillbedinero

    Yunel Escobar exits Nats game after wrist injury. Maybe Nats make first move before TD. Tony Renda for Bryce.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      Dealing a prospect? STUPID STUPID STUPID!

    • Y’s Guy

      Howie thought it might have been his hand, not his wrist, but the Nats policy is apparently not to give injury updates during the game.

  • Bob Loblaw

    What was the philosophy behind the shawn kelly for johnny barbato trade? Just could have been even more bullpen depth for us right?

    • Frittoman626

      Because at the time we got Carpenter, who was supposed to be a better version of him.

    • RetroRob

      Carpenter was to fill that role, they like Barbato, Kelley was arbitration eligible and becoming more expensive.

      • The Great Gonzo

        I am perfectly OK with 2/3 of that argument. And I am not from the Hal Is Teh Cheap camp, but a first year arb eligible reliever shouldn’t be too expensive for anyone, let alone the Yankees.

        • Bob Loblaw

          That’s baseball suzyn. someone has to pay for brendan ryan’s white cleats and mustache oil.

        • RetroRob

          I was simply giving him the reasons. I do believe the Yankees believe they can keep building bullpens on the fly, and they have shown success there. They figured they could replace Kelley and his 7-8 and 4.46 ERA the past two years. In fairness, I think he pitched better than that, but he was a fly-ball righty. They got value out of him and figured they could replace him, while getting a cost-controlled 23-year-old who can help them in future seasons, as opposed to paying nearly $3 MM on Kelley.

          • The Great Gonzo

            OK, that is an argument I’m OK with. He was going to get expensive for the kind of value e brings to the Yankees.

  • dayanks

    I still say Mike Fiers is a really good candidate…

    • Frittoman626

      Not with what the Brewers potential asking price for him.

      • Y’s Guy

        you can ask for the moon, but you can only get what someone offers.

  • Bob Loblaw

    Before we trade for a reliever, remember we still have Chris Marting throwing absolute Smokey the bear only you can prevent forest fire flames in triple A.

  • Dellin Beteddardnces

    I’d offer Flores, Mitchell and $7.5 million for Gallardo, and put him as my #3 for the postseason. 6 man rotation through the end of the season. CC, Nova and Eovaldi can battle it out for #4.

    • Some Asshole

      Eddard does Bertin. Live at The Bellagio.

      • Preston

        Accept it’s actually webcast from a basement.

        • Some Asshole

          Nevermind about that. This cigarette-burned couch is The Bellagio and over by the moldy cat food dish is the old Sands Hotel & Casino.

          Only the biggest, most luxurious stage for this act!

          • Bertin Lefkovic

            You can pee all over yourself while singing and pretend that it is the Bellagio fountain show.

          • Preston

            And that rat in the corner resembles Trump’s hair piece. So it’s almost like he’s in attendance!

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      I know that you can pay money towards a contract that you are sending to another team, but can you outright buy a player from another team? If so, how much would it cost to buy Hamels from the Phillies?

      • Preston

        No, you cannot.

  • Y’s Guy

    Bonus!!! Someone cancelled and I’m headed for the Big Ballyard this evening!

  • Bob Loblaw

    There is nothing funnier when stephen drew is batting with RISP and the YES announcers talk about this could be the moment that can get him going acting like his last 1000 plate appearances have just been one long slump.

  • Bob Loblaw

    Brendan Ryan for Dan uggla. Who hangs up first?

    • HoopDreams

      No Ryan fan by any means, but at least hes versatile and an above average defender. Uggla can’t hit or field as well

    • Some Asshole

      Uggla is pretty uggly.

  • Gregory Eckes

    Jason Vargas of the Royals has a torn UCL. Royals need starters badly

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      Nova for Ventura?

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      Beltran, CC (plus all of the cash owed him)), and Ryan for Infante, Rios, and Ventura?

  • captainmike

    ****FLASHBACK****
    chase headley for solarte last year

    this year

    Solarte 33 RBI 6 errors for THREE POSITIONS 1B 2B 3B
    Headley 32 RBI 16 errors

    • Dellin Beteddardnces

      Oh Captain my captain. That’s a trade I never woulda made. We’d have our 2B and be $60 million richer.

      • Some Asshole

        I Don’t Know’s on third.

    • Rick

      Thank god these are the only ways to measure players

      • captainmike

        don’t let the door hit you on the way out

        • Rick

          Good one?

        • Rick

          Good one?

      • captainmike

        don’t let the door hit you on the way out

  • Game 3

    “I like of all these people equally. I think the Astros..errr…Wranglers have a fine team and they are among my favorites. You know…I grew up on a farm in Texas (tips cowboy hat) and my momma always said to me ‘Hillary girl, you gonna go places in life, but you NEVER gonna see a place as great as Texas!’ Go Texas Wranglers!” – Hillary C

  • Y’s Guy

    The last time I saw the Birds o’ Baltimore we were closing them out of the ALDS!
    And I only paid $13 apiece for the tickets!

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/phillies-cole-hamels-jonathan-papelbon-chase-utley-latest.html

    Six quality prospects for Hamels.

    Austin, Mateo, Refsnyder, Rumbelow, Sanchez, and Severino? Fair? Not enough? Too much?

    • captainmike

      that would ruin the yankees for about 5 years
      remove Mateo and Severino and I am all in

      • blake

        remove Mateo and Severino and you get laughed at.

        • captainmike

          there is a reason for that
          it would be really stupid to give those two away for someone who will get hurt a week after we get him

          • Nick_CT

            mateo is in Charleston so in my mind you are only giving up one real prospect in Severino

            • Bertin Lefkovic

              I seriously doubt that the six prospects that the Dodgers would give up for Hamels are all the equivalent of Severino. I am sure that they would be a similar mix of near major league ready prospects and not.

        • captainmike

          there is a reason for that
          it would be really stupid to give those two away for someone who will get hurt a week after we get him

      • blake

        remove Mateo and Severino and you get laughed at.

      • Bertin Lefkovic

        Really? How many of those guys are going to be on the Yankees roster in the near or distant future? Refsnyder and Severino are the most likely, but it is impossible to predict what they are going to do with either of them next season or the season after. The rest are all crapshoots as are all prospects.

    • pat

      Are they paying his entire contract?

    • Rick
    • Rick
    • Nick_CT

      Im not sure if you mean Tyler Austin or Austin Romine but I dont think either of them is a quality prospect.i suppose he could be a throw in