Yankees place Dustin Ackley on 15-day DL; Mason Williams to have shoulder surgery

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Williams. (Presswire)
Williams. (Presswire)

The Yankees have placed utility man Dustin Ackley on the 15-day DL with a right lumbar strain, the team announced. Also, Brian Cashman told reporters Mason Williams will have shoulder surgery on August 7th, effectively ending his season. Blah.

Cashman said an MRI showed a herniated disc in Ackley’s back. He received an epidural and will be out 20-30 days. The Yankees are hoping Ackley can avoid surgery, which would end his season. The injury happened at some point after the trade. “He was a hot potato without realizing he was hot. The hot potato fell on our lap,” said the GM.

Ackley, 27, has never had any sort of back trouble before and this is the first time he’s ever been on the DL. He’s gone 0-for-3 at the plate since being acquired from the Mariners for Ramon Flores and Jose Ramirez last week. Ackley replaced Garrett Jones as the team’s fifth outfielder/backup first baseman.

Williams, meanwhile, has been out since mid-June with a right shoulder injury. He hurt himself diving back into first base on a pickoff play. Williams has been rehabbing his shoulder since the injury and has dealt with some setbacks, but the Yankees were optimistic he would avoid surgery. It won’t happen. That stinks.

The Yankees activated Slade Heathcott off the 60-day DL and optioned him to Triple-A on Friday, so he can’t be recalled until next Monday because of the ten-day rule. Rob Refsnyder, Tyler Austin, Jose Pirela, and Cole Figueroa are all on the 40-man and waiting in Triple-A. I wonder if the Yankees will just stick with a three-man bench and an eight-man bullpen for the time being.

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  • Frittoman626

    Couldn’t his injury have come earlier so that the Yankees could have signed Danny Valencia? He would have been the perfect bat for the bench…

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      We would’ve had to claim Valencia and the As were well before us on the claim scale.

  • dkidd

    dr. spaceman:

    now, mrs. jordan, i’ve already administered the epidural, so… would you like one as well?

  • n0exit

    So I doubt Jones would appreciate this, but taking him back might be their best option.

    Also, whoever said Williams should get the surgery yesterday, damn you man.

  • Pkyankfan69

    No Ackley? Break out the golf clubs fellas, SEASON OVER.

  • JGMAN1

    Get well Dustin!

  • Yankee Trader

    Mike-Chad Jennings mentioned that Caleb Cotham was recalled.

  • Travis Bickle

    Best trade deadline pickup in decades. This team is built for the World Series!

  • Pete Law

    Is there a certain waiting period to recall Garrett Jones after the DFA?

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      Would require him clearing waivers and electing free agency. If he clears, I believe he’s forced to AAA due to not being outrighted before.

      • Some Asshole

        At which point, he could just be brought up again, unless the 10-day rule is still in effect. Though, this is an injury.

        • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

          Yes, but we burned the 10-day rule on Cotham.

          • Some Asshole

            Right, forgot about him. Meh. Not like Jones was getting into a lot of games anyway.

            • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

              If anything, basically Cotham will be sent back to Scranton for Severino, so it’s not a big expectation.

      • n0exit

        No, a designated player can be replaces in the roster within 10 days without waivers.

    • n0exit

      They have 10 days from DFA to replace him on the roster. But I don’t think it would go down well with the player.

    • Pete22

      I think they can just rescind the DFA and place him back on the 40 man if he has not been placed on waivers yet. Since Ackley is placed on the DL there is no 10 day waiver, I don’t believe. If the 40 man is full (I think they have an open spot), they could place Ackley on the 60 man DL

  • BigDavey88

    My analysis: lol

  • Some Asshole

    Obligatory: “Ackley broke his back trying to shave.”
    Obligatory: “Seattle knew.”
    Obligatory: “Cashman failed.”

    Herniated disks are no joke, but you might not know when you have one. I received one and didn’t think that’s what it was until the MRI came back. Takes a lot of work to build up the muscles to compensate.

    Glad I got the snark out of the way.

    • HoopDreams

      Since my father is a doctor, his career is over. Bro.

      • Some Asshole

        I should have said “the ca$hmen have failed us because Hal and hubris.”

        Oh, and obligatory TJS comment inserted here.

      • Yankee Trader

        Not for a herniated disc.

        • Some Asshole

          http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/012/132/thatsthejoke.jpg

          Some asswipe during the offseason was going on about how Tanaka needed the TJS because his father was a doctor (of what, he didn’t say).

          • n0exit

            Obviously a homeopath bro.

            • https://twitter.com/missvykki vicki

              christian scientist bro.

          • Yankee Trader

            From what I’ve heard last year, Tanaka had a central 10% tear of the UCL which apparently responded well to platelet rich plasma injections and rest.

            He was treated at the Kerlan Jobe Clinic in LA, the same group that pronounced his arm OK when he was being courted by the Yankees.

            • Some Asshole

              Yeah, that’s what actual doctors said. So far, it’s alright. Tanaka had the DL run earlier this year, but no indication yet that it’s needed.

      • Rob

        If he made that Diagnosis over the internet, he must be a doctor at the VA.

    • Austinmac

      Probably 30% of thirty year olds have a bulging or herniated disc. Many are asymptomatic.

      • Some Asshole

        At least I know how I got mine. When I was 17 and was rear ended exiting a cab.

        • Austinmac

          Two years from age 18 to make a claim.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I remember towards the tail end of Randy Johnson’s time in New York he had a hurniated disk and said something to the effect of “it’s fine if you’re just sitting around, if you’re a fan in the stands or sitting on the bench the pain is completely manageable, it’s when you’re actually doing things like going through your wind up that it hurts.”

  • Austinmac

    Figueroa doesn’t really look like a major league player, but he is pretty capable. He plays an okay SS and puts the bat on the ball. He is not a bad extra infielder, if needed.

    The lack of depth from the starters probably will result in an extra pitcher for an extended period. Young can adequately play any OF position so they can probably get by with four.

  • blake

    Man sucks for Mason….but even though his season is over I’d consider it a success for him….he put himself back on the map a little bit this year. ….

    • Some Asshole

      He was actually called up to the big team. Didn’t think that would happen not that long ago.

      • blake

        Yea a year ago I thought he’d never get above AA so yea he’s come a long way

  • Austinmac

    We don’t know what kind of shoulder surgery Williams is having or the recovery period. I think it is to stop recurring separations. Hopefully, he will be fully recovered by early next year.

    • grandedan

      This isn’t minor surgery. Somebody with apparent expertise responded to my posts on this yesterday I think said the recovery is something like 3-6 months. I think the prognosis here is generally very good but a problem here is all the prior dislocations. Every time the shoulder pops out there’s tearing going on with the connective tissue. That’s why it was so important for Williams to finally get this done.

      He’s not a pitcher so I don’t think even if his arm weakens some this is going to have much impact on his career. Like any other surgery, much depends on the patient himself, his body and what he does to rehabilitate.

  • Pete22

    Seattle has that knack of trading guys to us who then become injured. Think thats just luck? Hard to blame Cash on this one, except for the fact Ackley is not very good. Thought there were signs Pineda was not right in his 2nd half of 2011 though.

    Montero hitting pretty well since his latest call up. Pineda on the DL, again. So far this trade is our W, but this might change over time.

  • thisiscarter

    Ackley getting hurt doesn’t let us get around the 10 day rule with slade?

    • n0exit

      They used it for Cotham.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Wasn’t Cotham called up for Pineda’s injury?

        • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

          Goody was called up.

        • n0exit

          Sent down for Mitchell? I don’t know, I can’t keep up with the moves anymore. Jennings said Binder specifically requested Cotham be recalled.

  • Luis Seveddardino

    So Garrett’s gone, Mason is hurt, Ackley is the new Youkilis and Cashman traded away Flores. We now have no depth at OF. It’s blunders like these that got Dave Dombrowski fired in Detroit.

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      Tyler Austin and Slade Heathcott (as well as Ben Gamel and Taylor Dugas as needed)

    • Still Stucky

      Posts like this should get people banned.

      • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        +100 million.

        • n0exit

          eddard?

          • Some Asshole

            Diego: More Eddard? No.

    • blake

      It was probably giving his team no bullpen for the last 3 years that got Dave Dombowski fired

      • Some Asshole

        They had Jobber….

        • blake

          Exactly

        • Deep Thoughts

          And Coke, and Al “Who the Hell Knows Where This 97 MPH Fastball Is Going?” Alburquerque.

    • n0exit

      He wasn’t fired. Ilitch gave him a release to pursue other jobs. AA should start packing.

      • https://twitter.com/missvykki vicki

        i think john henry will hire him again.

      • Austinmac

        We don’t know why he left. It is odd it wasn’t a joint statement.

        • n0exit

          Reporters are quoting Ilitch as saying that. I think its obvious that DD and Ilitch wanted to go in different directions with the team.

      • blake

        Depends on if they win it all or not

    • Pete22

      Dombroski likely has another job lined up which will be a promotion, so the Tigers released him, probably to the Red Sox as President of Baseball Ops.

    • Billy

      Yes they still have Heathcott, Judge, Gamel, Dugas and Austin in Triple A/Double A….

  • blake

    Cashman tried to return Ackley but they said once the beard is shaved the sale is final

    • Yankee Trader

      Good one. I heard since Ackley was the new guy, his teammates made him carry and load the bats onto the bus that took them to the airport. -workman’s comp.

  • Gary Lawrence

    Injuries well here comes another one yanke fans. Bryan Mitchell has been sent back to the bullpen.
    Mark my words he will start again this season and will end up having tommy john surgery at the end of this season or eventually.
    “Hay dios ! ”
    “Hay caramba! ”
    “Este jugador vas a comer mierda porque los yankees no saben que esta haciendo con el.”
    “Claro que los Yankees están portando loco con Bryan Mitchell.”
    Thats the little Spanish i learned in high school.

    • Still Stucky

      [asks for evidence this sort of use results in TSJ, dies of old age waiting]

  • blake

    I look forward to Dombrowski in Boston and them having no bullpen for the next 5 years

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      We’re in year 2 of that already.

      • blake

        It’s kinda shocking to me that Detroit never addressed that when it was clearly a big problem they had for a long time

  • levendis

    is there a chance Jones comes back?

    • Monterocouldstillbedinero

      Montero?

    • BrettGardnerHasALargeForehead

      If he clears waivers, sure.

  • grandedan

    Since I did so well with Mason on my treatment plan, let me take a shot at Dustin now. I wouldn’t get too bent out of shape (haha) with the herniated disc diagnosis. I think if you did an X-Ray, MRI of every human being on the planet, about 98% would have a herniated disc. It’s more of an evolutionary problem than a medical one. Take a look at a graphic of the human spine. It still seems somewhat better suited for a creature on four legs. I think this problem will take care of itself in four or five million years but most of us don’t have that kind of time on our hands.

    Bottom line is, back pain is pretty variable. I had pretty severe back pain between the ages of 14 and 33. Was also diagnosed with a herniated disk. Then sometime in my early 30s the pain went away and I’ve been pretty pain free for over twenty years. Sometimes a herniated disc will result in eventual surgery, but that’s fairly rare. This ain’t a shoulder that keeps popping out. I’ve always felt that life style and stress have a lot to do with back pain. There’s a high likelihood that Ackley will be fine in a few weeks. Backs are usually a management thing.

    Now I need to make a few calls.

    • Yankee Trader

      Epidural up to three. If no relief from them or selective nerve root injections, then surgery might be necessary.

      From orthofracs.com

      Incidence

      56% of adults have disc bulging
      MRI scans show that between 20% & 35% of working age adults have asymptomatic disc herniation
      There is lifetime incidence of 2% for symptomatic disc herniation
      80% of general population will experience back pain but only 2-3% will have sciatica
      mean onset = 35 years
      unusual 60 years
      males = females (females present decade later than males)
      Age

      Most lumbar disc herniations occur between 30 & 50
      Far lateral disc herniations occur in older age group (average age 65)
      Lumbar disc herniations before 30 tend to have hereditary aetiology
      Site

      commonest site for prolapse is L4/L5 disc, then L5/S1 disc

      • Austinmac

        Nice job.

  • https://twitter.com/TheWillThe ComradeQuestions

    Gah! The Mariners strike again!

  • Pete22

    Some men derive their powers from the beard. Shave the beard and they crumble to dust. Ackley is doomed. Yankees really should rethink some of their archaic traditions, facial hair (within limits) , names on uniforms (its a frigging revolving door on the 25 man, unlike in the past, think of the fans)

    • Yankee Trader

      Samsonized!

    • Basil

      The fans can look at the scoreboard, hear the announcer, check their program. As for poor Ackley, my guess is that it was while wearing the beard that his back went bad.

  • Kibble ‘n vicks

    Can’t wait for the subway world series.

    • Rob

      What would Jared do? I’ll take sixteen year old’s for $100, Alex.

  • NH Yankee fan

    Traded for damaged goods I see. Pineda not back anytime soon..Just beat Owens tonight.. That’s all I ask for!!

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      Think of it as a redshirt/inventory for 2016 move.

  • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam
    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam
    • levendis

      oh man Bichette has really stunk it up this year

      • https://twitter.com/missvykki vicki

        this year, you say.

        • levendis

          lol I mean it was never THIS bad

        • Monterocouldstillbedinero

          Not how you play but who you know I guess.

          Sincerely,
          Dante Girardi

  • Dalek Jeter

    …SEATTLE KNEW

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      MAGNETO KNEW!!

    • Off the Wall

      They HAD to know, including Ackley. I’ve had both a cervical (neck: C-5/C-7) herniated disk and a CENTRAL lumbar herniated disk at L5-S1 — the latter is painful to this day, but surgery would not improve the condition significantly at the margin. Both have caused premature spinal stenosis.

      Ackley said that he began to feel “achey when the team was in Chicago”. IMO, anyone whose had any herniated disk KNOWS EXACTLY WHEN THE HERNIATION OCCURS. I WOULD ALSO VENTURE TO GUESS THAT THEY WOULD NOT DESCRIBE IT AS “ACHEY”. An apt description is DEBILITATING PAIN.

      Ackley also said that he’s had this problem before. If that’s truly the case, then “achey” might apply.

      THE POINT IS THAT HE’S HAD A HISTORY OF SERIOUS BACK PROBLEMS, “a la” HEADLEY, and neither he nor the Mariners gave the Yankees “full disclosure” when the trade was made.

      • Rob

        I agree about knowing when it happened. When mine went, it was like an electric shock. I went to my knees.

      • feztonio

        it does seem fishy that a guy could be 100% healthy and skipping through life whistling a tune his entire career, then magically have his spine explode within 72 hours of being traded to the point of it ending his season and having to be operated on.

  • NH Yankee fan

    Seattle likes sending NY scotch-tape specials. Buy one get a free one in bubble wrap..

  • Elton Cod

    I thought getting rid of an experienced bat like Garrett Jones was a questionable move the second we made it. This confirms it.

    • Still Stucky

      Not if you can reason.

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      His DFA resolution should be solved by 8/10 so it’s possible if they wanted to go that route to Put Ackley on the 60 day and free up a roster spot for Jones.

      • n0exit

        Is Moreno really getting claimed? Cotham? So many pitchers on the 40, just dump one of them.

        • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

          Cotham maybe but not Moreno.

      • feztonio

        I’d be happy to replace Ackley if Cashman wants… I’m a left handed hitter and can play 1B as well as all three OF slots (I’d recommend against CF unless an emergency though as I’m a bit slower than i used to be). I can go 0-3 and get hurt for the season as easily as Dustin Ackley can… I’m a team player too!

  • Wkamm

    Ah yes. The 8 man bullpen. Forever.

  • Asher Dratel

    God that sucks about Williams. Went from day-to-day to surgery :(

  • disqus_8E66WIUyso

    Cashmans a genius

    • Rob

      I wouldn’t go that far but, ever since Hal changed the combo on the Yankee safe to 1/8/9, Cashman’s become a puppet master at manipulating the 15 & 60 day DL, the 40 man, the option shuttle to SWB, and buy low acquisitions.

    • maybetoday777

      Yup, there is NOT a GM who does less with more than Cashman.

  • Tom

    Aaron Sanchez and John Gibbons apparently suspended.

    • Tyler

      Yeah figured it was coming for Gibbons. He was tossed and then came back out when the benches cleared. Don’t really blame the Royals for the on the field stuff there. Not sure where Toronto hitters expect to be pitched when they dive over the plate and you have Bautista hitting bombs to centerfield on 97 mph fastballs high and outside.

      • n0exit

        BMac doesn’t go multiple signs in TOR for shits. Also Royals got hit a couple times earlier in the series.

        • Tyler

          The Royals broadcasters brought up that it seems like Toronto knows what’s coming (didn’t flat out accuse them of stealing signs but it definitely implied it) which sounded like sour grapes at the time but the more I watched I could kind of see it. They have a really solid lineup but they were just jumping all over pitches. Not missing anything.

          • n0exit

            The Yankees have had a long held suspicion about this. Whether it’s true or not doesn’t matter anymore.

          • Preston

            Everybody talks about the Yankees home road splits. But the Blue Jays home/road splits are even more pronounced. They have a wRC+ of 125 at home, and have a wRC+ of 100 at home.

            • Pete22

              This recent road trip closed that gap a lot. Before that the Yankees had the biggest split. Both tams are pretty close though

  • grandedan

    So it’s Severino in the rotation, Mitchell in the bullpen and Capuano the 6th, spot starter. At least for now. Doesn’t look like Warren is ever going to get out of the bullpen this year. And of course, CC .. .. .

    • Still Stucky

      Of course CC what?

      • grandedan

        every 5th day.

        • Still Stucky

          Every 5th day what? We know he’s in the rotation. What new thought are you looking to add to the discourse?

          • grandedan

            Duh! Why do you think I left it blank?

            • Still Stucky

              Again, I have no idea what new idea you’re trying to impart.

              Yes, Tanaka, Evoaldi, Nova, Sabathia and Severino is the rotation at the moment. This is well established. Why are you repeating a well-known fact?

              • grandedan

                . . . lead a horse to water. . . ..

  • Brian Cashman is watching

    Why can’t Slade Heathcott be recalled? Isn’t there an exception to the ten day waiting period if the person being recalled is replacing an injured player?

    • Still Stucky

      Going for an arm in case Luis S.K. blows ups with Sabathia following him and Toronto coming to town behind them, would be my guess.

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      Cotham got called up with Ackley going on the DL. I think they could have called up Slade, but had to be with Ackley going on the DL. Can’t do it now until the 10 day period is over

      • Brian Cashman is watching

        When was Cotham called up? Not questioning the move, but I thought the Yankees could have called up Slade Heathcott if they wanted to because he would be replacing an injured player. It is more of a question of whether they could have called him up under the rules.

        • PriceyMustacheMasher

          He was called up today when Ackley went on the DL

  • Yankeefan93

    Has anyone bought tickets from Vividseats? Wanna know if they’re legit.

  • Monterocouldstillbedinero

    More damaged goods from the M’s.

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      No big deal.. The trade was for the future anyway, and didn’t really give up much for him

      • Tom

        But he was supposed to be a power hitting 2B who would make this anemic lineup score more runs!!

  • disqus_8E66WIUyso

    Severino is in such a rough spot. If he doesn’t pitch very well …you know.

    • Septhinox

      Then nothing. He will just pitch again 5 days later.

      Just like Sabathia….

      http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmji5osvUC1qdnuvg.jpg

    • grandedan

      They should be prepared to pull him quickly. He hasn’t exactly been efficient this year at Scranton. If he can give the four nice innings that’s a pretty good debut and then build from there.

    • Rob

      I talked to Colin Cowherd and he told me a 21 year old Dominican wouldn’t know what a rough spot was. He’ll be fine no matter the outcome.

      • datkidde

        I said it earlier, I don’t expect anything less than a Steve Nebraska type debut.

  • Still Stucky

    The Yankees… well, the Yankees.

    And if..

    I mean, do I even need to say it?

    • Joy Illimited

      Apparently!

  • trr

    MFW…

  • Wolf

    A toast to positive thinking.

  • feztonio

    3 at bats – oh-for-three – the entire 2015 contribution for Dustin “The Franchise” Ackley !!!! what a pick up Brian Cashman, what a pick up!

  • dalelama

    Nice mid-season pickup Brian.