Once expected to be a solution, Pineda is now just another part of the problem


Remember back a few years after the Jesus Montero-for-Michael Pineda trade, when there was that big rush to declare a winner? Pineda blew out his shoulder and Montero had a decent year in 2012, so the Mariners won the trade. Then Montero faded and Pineda returned with a vengeance in 2014, so the Yankees won the trade. There were a few back-and-forths along the way, sometimes on a game by game basis.

Ultimately the need to declare a trade winner is pointless. Now, more than four years after the trade, one thing is clear: neither team got what they wanted out of the deal. Montero did not blossom into the big righty bat the Mariners sought, and Pineda did not develop into a pitcher who could pitch near the front of the rotation. Both showed flashes but have fallen short. We can say that with certainty now more than four years later.

Pineda’s latest dud was a five-inning, five-run mess against the Diamondbacks on Tuesday night that looked like most other Pineda starts these days. He fell apart with two outs in the inning, made miserable two-strike pitches, and let things snowball out of control. Nearly a quarter of the way into the season, Pineda ranks 101st in ERA (6.60) and 88th in FIP (4.96) among the 103 qualified starters. You can’t even hang your hat on his peripherals anymore.

“It’s easy to say it will turn, but it’s been too long,” said pitching coach Larry Rothschild to George King after last night’s game. “We are almost a quarter of the way through his starts. We need to straighten it out, especially in the stretch. He is going through a major bump in the road right now. He gets ahead in the count and the numbers worsen. From the stretch position the quality of pitches are not the same. We need to fix that.”

Pineda is very much a good control/bad command pitcher. He can throw strikes (6.9 BB%) but rarely quality strikes, and there was no better example of that last night than the two-strike sliders he hung to Nick Ahmed and Paul Goldschmidt in the second and third innings. Pineda got ahead in the count, had a chance to escape the inning, then put a cement mixer slider on a tee and paid for it. Throwing strikes is generally good. Throwing strikes down the middle is not.

In a few ways Pineda is a microcosm of the 2016 Yankees. He is so obviously talented with a chance to be an excellent player, but he’s not only not performing as expected, he’s going backwards. Pineda was fantastic around a lat injury in 2014, then he took a step back in 2015, and now he’s taken an even bigger step back in 2016. Sometimes players struggle and that’s just baseball. But with Pineda, he seems to be getting worse with each passing month.

At this point it’s hard to see how Pineda not only factors into the team’s long-term plans, but their short-term plans as well. Pineda is part of the problem, not part of the solution. Yes, there’s a lot of season left and he is under team control next season too, but we’ve been waiting for things to click and for Pineda to turn the corner for a long time now. Again, all he’s done is gone backwards. There have been no signs of progress.

The shoulder surgery a few years back total sucks and it’s impossible to know what kind of effect that has had on Pineda. Maybe he was doomed to disappoint from the start. Or maybe he was headed for the front of the rotation before his arm gave out. Either way, the Pineda the Yankees have right now is not very good and he seems to be getting worse. His inability to emerge as a rotation force is one of the reasons the Yankees have settled into this stretch of mediocrity that is going on four years now.

Pineda knocked around yet again, Yankees drop middle game 5-3 to Diamondbacks

Source: FanGraphs

I swear, the 2016 Yankees are allergic to sustained success. They went 7-3 on the homestand only to come out and drop the first two games of this series with the Diamondbacks. Tuesday night’s final score was 5-3. The Yankees are 16-22 and it’s been three weeks since they were within even three games of .500. Yuck. West Coast night games get bullet point recaps, so let’s dive in:

  • Little Mike: The D’Backs tagged Michael Pineda for nine hits in five innings and it felt like more. Only three of them came in two-strike counts and again, it felt like more. Pineda hung an 0-2 slider to No. 8 hitter Nick Ahmed for a run-scoring single in the second, and then he hung a 1-2 slider to Paul Goldschmidt for another run-scoring single in the third. He’s lucky Goldy didn’t hit that pitch out of the yard. Jake Lamb did hit a hanging slider out of the park for a two-run homer in the fifth. Five runs on nine hits and one walk in five innings. Pineda struck out nine, but who cares. He has a 6.60 ERA (4.95 FIP) on the season. Awful.
  • Cy Greinke: Zack Greinke is a great pitcher who has had a poor start to the season. You wouldn’t have known it by watching him Tuesday. His first seven innings were stress free — the only real blemish was Starlin Castro‘s second inning solo homer — before the Yankees got something going in the eighth and knocked him out of the game. A Carlos Beltran ground out and a Jacoby Ellsbury single drove in runs that eighth. Greinke was charged with three runs in seven innings but was far better than that.Didi Gregorius grounded out as the tying run in the ninth.
  • Sloppy Yankees: This was a brutally sloppy game by the Yankees. Brett Gardner took his time retrieving a ball in the corner in the second inning, allowing Chris Owings to stretch a double into a triple. Brian McCann took his time getting a passed ball that scooted to the backstop, allowing Ahmed to take second and third base. Chase Headley had a few balls clank off his glove. Errors happen, but there was some straight up laziness this game. Get your head in the game, fellas.
  • Leftovers: Chasen Shreve allowed a single and struck out two in two scoreless innings. That was the best he’s looked in a few weeks. Trainer Steve Donohue came out to visit him at one point, though Shreve stayed in, so false alarm … Ellsbury very nearly had his fifth catcher’s interference of the season, but home plate ump Fieldin Culbreth didn’t give him the call. Ellsbury argued, though the replays made it tough to tell whether he actually got the glove … the Yankees are 2-12 in games started by Pineda and Luis Severino this year. They’re 14-9 in all other games.

Here are the box score, video highlights, and updated standings. Also make sure you check out our Bullpen Workload and Announcer Standings pages. The Yankees will try to avoid being swept Wednesday night, when Nathan Eovaldi and Shelby Miller toe the slab.

DotF: Trenton wins on Mitchell’s walk-off home run

Triple-A Scranton was rained out. They’re going to play a doubleheader tomorrow.

Double-A Trenton (3-2 win over Richmond in eleven innings)

  • SS Tyler Wade: 0-4, 1 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 SB
  • CF Dustin Fowler: 1-4, 1 R, 1 BB
  • 1B Tyler Austin: 1-4, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K
  • DH Jared Mitchell: 2-5, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 K — walk-off homer
  • LHP Jordan Montgomery: 6 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 5 K, 5/3 GB/FB — 64 of 99 pitches were strikes (65%) … he’s allowed no more than one run in five of seven starts this season
  • RHP J.R. Graham: 1.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HB, 1/0 GB/FB — 24 of 38 pitches were strikes (63%) … first outing since being picked up in a minor trade over the weekend
  • RHP Jonathan Holder: 2.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 1 HB, 1/0 GB/FB — 39 of 50 pitches were strikes (78%) … 34/4 K/BB in 21.2 innings

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Game 38: Which Pineda Shows Up?


Last night’s series opening loss to the Diamondbacks was ugly but not necessarily unexpected. The Yankees started a kid making his big league debut, and that’s always unpredictable, plus their best relievers were all unavailable due to their recent workloads. You’d still like to be able to steal a game under those circumstances, though more often than not you’re on the wrong end of the final score.

Tonight the Yankees are at full strength — or at least something approximating full strength — with Michael Pineda on the mound. Which Pineda will show up, the guy who gets hammered in the first inning or the guy with a knack for settling down and chucking scoreless innings? It would be nice to see the second guy without the first guy for once, you know? Here is the D’Backs’ lineup and here is the Yanks’ lineup:

  1. CF Jacoby Ellsbury
  2. LF Brett Gardner
  3. 1B Mark Teixeira
  4. C Brian McCann
  5. 2B Starlin Castro
  6. 3B Chase Headley
  7. SS Didi Gregorius
  8. RF Aaron Hicks
  9. RHP Michael Pineda

It’s a bit cooler in Phoenix today than it was yesterday, meaning the temperature is in the mid-80s rather than the low-90s. The Chase Field roof will be open. Tonight’s game is going to start at 9:40pm ET and you can watch on YES. Enjoy.

Injury Update: Alex Rodriguez (hamstring) has yet to run the bases at full speed, so it’s possible he won’t be ready to come off the DL when eligible Thursday.

Roster Moves: The Yankees called up three players from Triple-A, they announced: Luis Cessa, James Pazos, and Rob Refsnyder. Chad Green and Conor Mullee were optioned down while Phil Coke was designated for assignment. The Yankees are back to a seven-man bullpen and a four-man bench, and they have an open 40-man roster spot now.

Tuesday Night Open Thread

Earlier today the Pirates signed ex-Yankee Francisco Cervelli to a three-year contract extension that runs from 2017-19. The deal is worth $31M. Good for Frankie. He wrote about his decision to sign with Pittsburgh at the Players’ Tribune, and the post includes anecdotes about how the Yankees signed him and the time they wanted to turn him into a coach. Neat stuff. Check it out.

Here is the open thread until the regular game thread for tonight’s game comes along. The Mets are playing, MLB Network is showing a regional game, and there are also NBA and NHL playoff games on as well. Talk about any of that stuff and more right here.

(By the way, David Well’s perfect game was 18 years ago today, hence the video choice.)

2016 Draft: Mock Drafts, Gowdy, Jones

(Jeff Zelevansky/Getty)
(Jeff Zelevansky/Getty)

The 2016 amateur draft begins in only three weeks and two days. It seems like it’s sneaking up this year, huh? Anyway, I have some miscellaneous draft links to pass along.

Baseball America Mock Draft v3.0

Hudson Belinsky of Baseball America posted his third mock draft of the season on Friday, and he has the Phillies taking Florida LHP A.J. Puk with the top pick. That seems to be consensus right now. Belinsky has the Yankees taking Vanderbilt RHP Jordan Sheffield with their first round selection, the 18th overall pick. Here is MLB.com’s free scouting report on Sheffield, who is Gary’s nephew:

Of all the pitching prospects in the 2016 Draft, Sheffield may have the best chance to develop three plus offerings. His fastball can sit at 94-96 mph and reach 98, and he has maintained his velocity in the late innings of his starts. Both Sheffield’s hard three-quarters breaking ball (which is more likely to become a slider than a curveball) and his circle changeup can be out pitches at times.

The knocks on Sheffield are his injury history — he had Tommy John surgery in high school — and generally poor command. He’s on my list of draft prospects to write up, so look for that at some point soon. Sheffield has a 2.34 ERA with 97 strikeouts and 29 walks in 84.2 innings this spring.

MLB.com Mock Draft v1.0

MLB.com’s Jonathan Mayo posted his first mock draft of the spring on Friday as well. He has the Phillies taking Mercer OF Kyle Lewis with the top pick, so I guess Puk really isn’t the consensus pick right now. Nevermind. Mayo has the Yankees taking Kansas HS LHP Joey Wentz with that 18th pick. Here is MLB.com’s free scouting report:

Wentz’s fastball topped out around 90 mph before his hiatus from the mound, but after getting on a throwing program and nursing his arm back to health he has operated at 90-95 mph this spring. There could be more velocity to come from his projectable frame, and his fastball already plays up because it has armside run and his size creates difficult angle. He has a pair of solid secondary pitches in a curveball with depth and a changeup with fade, and he could have three plus offerings when fully developed.

The arm issue referenced in the scouting report has been called a “dead arm” and nothing more. Wentz didn’t have surgery or anything like that. He’s also a legitimate prospect as a power hitting first baseman, though most see him as a pitcher long-term. Wentz is one of the very few pitchers in this draft believed to have true No. 1 starter upside. I’ve just kinda assumed he’d be off the board by time the Yankees pick.

Yankees in on Gowdy, Jones

In his most recent draft rankings (subs. req’d), Keith Law noted the Yankees are “supposedly heavily” on California HS RHP Kevin Gowdy for their first round pick. Here’s my write-up on Gowdy. The Yankees being in on an advanced prep arm from Southern California is no surprise at all. Scouting director Damon Oppenheimer has been all over the demographic for years.

Also, within his mock draft, Belinsky says the Yankees are also in on Pennsylvania HS 3B Nolan Jones with their top selection. Here’s my write-up on him. Jones is definitely one of my favorite prospects in this year’s draft class, though that doesn’t mean a whole lot in the grand scheme of things. Still, the Yankees are said to be in on him, so I feel validated.

Cuban infielder Yulieski Gurriel would be “super happy” to join the Yankees

Yulieski. (Koji Watanabe/Getty)
Yulieski. (Koji Watanabe/Getty)

Back in February, infielder Yulieski Gurriel and his younger brother Lourdes Jr. defected from Cuba while in the Dominican Republic for the Caribbean Series. Along with Japanese righty Shohei Otani, the Gurriels are widely considered two of the best players in the world not under contract with an MLB team.

The Gurriels are still going through the process of being declared free agents by MLB, and that can take an awfully long time. They have to first establish residency outside Cuba, then get cleared by the Office of Foreign Assets Control, and then be given the thumbs up by MLB. That process can take months and months.

Aroldis Chapman, who played with Yulieski on the Cuban National Team back in the today, recently told Brendan Kuty that Gurriel would be “super happy” to play for the Yankees. Yulieski has said in the past his favorite player in Alex Rodriguez, which is pretty cool. Here’s what Chapman told Kuty:

“He has asked me many questions,” Chapman said. “But that’s normal because, Cuban people, they always want to ask you how’s the baseball at this level, what’s the organization and all that. It’s typical for Cuban people to ask questions about the Yankees.”

“He was a good teammate,” Chapman said. “Besides being a good player, he’s a good person. He would share moments with us. He would hang out outside of baseball and he was just a good teammate.”

The two Gurriels are at very different points in their career. Yulieki, the older brother, will turn 32 in three weeks and is ready to jump right into a big league lineup. He’s been a star in Cuba for more than a decade — the Cuban government allowed him to play in Japan in 2014, and he raked there too — and most believe Gurriel could be an impact hitter in MLB right now.

Lourdes is only 22, however. His career is just getting started. In fact, once he is declared a free agent, he will still be subject to the international spending rules. He’s not going to sign this summer though. Lourdes will wait until he turns 23 in October so he will be exempt from the spending restrictions and free to sign a contract of any size. Waiting a few extra weeks means millions and millions more.

The Yankees haven’t been connected to the Gurriels at all, but no team has at this point, so that doesn’t mean much. Every team has a place in their organization for Lourdes given his age and what is considered high-end upside on the middle infield. Yulieski is a bit trickier because he’s a second and third baseman who is MLB ready. The Yankees are contractually locked into Starlin Castro at second and Chase Headley at third.

Castro has been more than fine in his first few weeks as a Yankee. Headley has been mostly awful despite his recent extra-base hits. I’ve been wondering if the Yankees will move Headley in an A.J. Burnett style salary dump after the season even though they lack a ready made replacement. (Sorry, I’m not buying Rob Refsnyder at third.) Dumping Headley would clear a spot for Yulieski.

Of course, it’s all going to come down to money. Hector Olivera signed six-year deal worth $62.5M with the Dodgers last year. He was 30 and two years younger than Yulieski, but also a much inferior player with a much scarier injury history. It’s not unreasonable to think Gurriel will command more. Lourdes is tougher to pin down. Yasmany Tomas got six years and $68.5M at age 24 a year ago.

I wonder if Lourdes, who is expected to need time in the minors, will end up getting offers like the deal Jorge Soler signed with the Cubs years ago. Soler received a nine-year deal worth $30M at age 20 — this was before the spending restrictions became a thing — though the contract allows him to void his salaries and opt into arbitration. So if he becomes a star, Soler has the ability to go through arbitration to make more money.

Perhaps the younger Gurriel brother will go for something like eight years and $40M with a similar arbitration opt-in clause. Chances are he will take the largest guarantee offered, so if someone puts Tomas money on the table, they’ll probably get him. But if not, a structure like Soler’s could work. And yes, such a deal would count against the luxury tax. That’s not insignificant for the Yankees and Hal Steinbrenner even with all the money they have coming off the books the next two years.

The idea of a package deal is very intriguing and I feel like a rebuilding team like the Braves or Phillies should be all over the Gurriels. It’s a great opportunity to get two talented players. It really seems like Yulieski wants to play for the Yankees though, so maybe that gives New York an edge come free agency time. Remember though, A-Rod will be gone after next season and chances are Chapman will be gone after this season. Gurriel may not be too keen on coming to the Yankees if his favorite player and long-time friend won’t be around for the long haul.