Game 141: Seriously? A sweep?
ByFor the umpteenth time this season, the Yankees find themselves in a position to sweep an opponent. It hasn’t worked out every time, but it never will. Yet they’ve come through on a number of occasions. It’s one reason they hold the best record in baseball by a decent margin. Great teams finish off the sweep when they have the chance.
If they’re going to do it, they’ll have to get by six foot nine, 280-pound monster Jeff Niemann. He was part of the infamous 2004 Rice University draft class, which also included Philip Humber and since-retired Wade Townsend. Humber was originally drafted by the Yankees, but decided to attend Rice, after which the Mets selected him, and subsequently traded him in the Johan Santana deal. All three pitchers underwent arm surgery, though Neimann’s, which was arthroscopic, was the least severe of the lot.
Niemann stumbled a bit last year in place of the injured Scott Kazmir, though he did only start two games in that span. He went back down to AAA to work on his game, and in 2009 he got another shot. Both he and Jason Hammel were out of options this year, and Niemann won the spot out of Spring Training. The Rays traded of Hammel, and the rest is history.
After some struggles early on, Niemann has flourished in the rotation. His ERA was as high as 5.35 on May 13, but he’s since reduced that to 3.67, and hasn’t been above the 4.00 mark since the beginning of July. Yes, he’s had some struggles since then, but he’s also had some lights out appearances, including a 7.2-inning, one-run performance against the Tigers last time out.
The Yanks will toss out Joba Chamberlain, who figures to go four innings this time around. That is, if he can display some good stuff and command. It’s tough to expect that at this point. He hasn’t been really good since he had those three stellar starts out of the All-Star Break. He’s taking the ball every five days, though, so perhaps he’ll find his rhythm today. That’s all we can really hope for.
Posada and Melky get days off today. Girardi is certainly doing a good job of balancing his roster. He’s making sure to have a good number of boppers in there while giving guys ample rest down the stretch. I approve.
Lineup:
1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Johnny Damon, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Nick Swisher, RF
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Brett Gardner, CF
9. Jose Molina, C
And on the mound, number sixty-two, Joba Chamberlain.
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You could probably make a ROY case for Niemann. Ricky Romero has certainly fallen out of it
Reimold and Beckham have been impressive too.
never mind
it’s going to be Andrew Bailey–almost identical to Huston Street from a few years ago, and neither Reimold nor Beckham are having better years than Cano did
and neither Reimold nor Beckham are having better years than Cano did
Sorry, but I can’t see how that’s relevant. Reimold and Beckham aren’t being judged against 2005 Robinson Cano, they’re being judged against the other rookies of 2009.
as precedent for the voting–I compared my choice to a previous winner (Bailey to Street) and then Bailey’s competition to Street’s. The voting in 2005 wasn’t that close either
Here’s how I do it:
Q) What 2009 rookie is having the best 2009 year?
A) That guy? Then he gets it.
[end of process]
good way to look at it, but that only tells you who should win it, not necessarily who will
Is Beckham in it still? What about Andrus?
Porcello also. Doing what he’s done at 20 is damn impressive. And he’s kept his team in it.
I’d think we can all agree there is no clear favorite for AL ROY.
hence why Bailey is going to win it
I’d think we can all agree there is no clear favorite for AL ROY.
Agreed. The top five are all bunched together, as they have been all year long, and they’ve all been equally excellent, so nobody has moved heads and shoulders above the rest of the pack. I’d be hard pressed to say who’s best, but if I had to answer today, my ballot probably looks like this:
1) Junichi Tazawa
2) Clay Buchholz
3) Josh Reddick
4) Johnathan Van Every
5) Izzy Alcantara
For Diamond Cutters, I’m Peter Gammons, ESPN
Izzy Alcantara will always have a spot in my heart for that dropkick
You forgot Michael Bowden.
Only had 5 spots.
Brett Anderson has been among the most valuable rookies for a team in the AL. He doesn’t have sexy numbers, but in terms of value he is near the top. Elvis Andrus also has similar value to that of Brett Anderson.
have you never looked at his W-L record or era? anderson is a complete joke.
I never said that he was likely to win. If you look at his WAR he is among the highest for rookies. His is a full .2 higher than Jeff Niemann. I know the writers will never use WAR, I was just commenting at the value that Anderson has.
Using WAR to evaluate pitchers is a little misleading, since they use FIP mainly to determine it, rather than ERA.
While FIP is more useful than ERA for determining what a pitcher is going to do going forward, value is value — a pitcher who throws a perfect game on 27 balls in play is more valuable for that game than someone who gives up 5 runs while striking out 15, even if the latter is almost certain to be more valuable going forward.
His ERA isn’t as good as Niemann, Porcello, or Romero, yes. His W/L record should be irrelevant.
He plays on the Athletics, for Mosakes. His team sucks.
“His W/L record should be irrelevant”. what? what should they go by then? an 8-10 record means you are a bad pitcher. end of story. writers should just get drunk and pick from a hat, if that is irrelevant.
an 8-10 record means you are a bad pitcher.
Yeah… no.
how many “good” pitchers have lost more games than they have won? i would rather have a 5.00 era and be 15-0 then have a 1.00 era and be 5-10.
i would rather have a 5.00 era and be 15-0 then have a 1.00 era and be 5-10.
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard all day.
so you hate wins? is that we you are saying? you would rather have more losses if it meant you could have pretty numbers. wow, just wow.
Another stupid straw man?
You said a guy with a 8-10 record is a bad pitcher. If they have a 1.00 ERA with bad run support he is still a good pitcher. Now you’re off saying “LOL U DUN LIEK WINS?!?!?” when explaining that’s a scenario where wins are OVERRATED.
I gotta agree. This line of thinking is the stupidest thing I’ve heard all day. It even overtakes Joba and Hughes to the pen in the batshit insane meter.
There’s a difference between pitcher wins and team wins. You should look up said difference before you continue to spout off.
Dude, just stop.
a pitcher who is 15-0 has 15 team wins. a pitcher who is 5-10 still has 10 losses for the team. the most important thing is a team winning, a pitcher with 10 losses means that the team lost. I thought the most important thing was team wins. not any of those stats made by mathematicians who can hardly understand them.
So the offense doesn’t play at all into a win. Gotcha.
Yeah, but maybe it wasn’t his fault, as in, they lost 1-0…
I’ll expand on that. Pitcher wins factor in a pitcher’s performance AND offense, combined. A guy can go out and allow 2 runs every time. If his team scores more than 2 runs, he wins. If they score the same, he gets a no decision. If they score fewer, he loses. Notice how the situation here is completely contingent upon the offense, a factor over which the pitcher has zero control.
You don’t understand ERA? It’s simple. Look it up if you find it to be complicated. Cause that’s the only state we’ve used against your claims.
And again your argument makes no sense. You said who’s the better pitcher. Wins do not determine whether a pitcher is good or not. Why not? Because wins are hugely based off the their OFFENSE which pitchers here have no control of. It’s stupid to think that the 5-10 1.00 ERA pitcher is worse than the 5.00 ERA 10-5 pitcher.
the result of the game is the most important thing. the pitcher has to get wins, if that means the offense is good, that means the team is good. i see where every one is coming from, but it is wrong. i guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
The pitcher can’t get wins if his offense is worse than the Pittsburgh Pirates.
No, we will not agree to disagree, because you refuse to acknowledge the linchpin here.
Some pitchers do not get a lot of run support. It’s not a consistent thing, usually year to year. Look at Randy Johnson. Dude’s ERA was way high in 2006, but he won 17 games. Why? He had the best run support in the league, by a long shot.
Offense matters in pitcher wins. If you don’t acknowledge this, then we’ll agree to disagree, but you will be wrong.
Meh. Too easy.
Like I said, dumbest shit I’ve heard all day.
Maybe all month.
In other news, you can’t get to India by sailing West.
/1491′d
Who’s the better pitcher? The guy who pitches 2 run games every game but his team scores none so his record is 0-10 or the guy who has a 10-0 record with 10+ run support each game with a ERA of 6?
Wow never mind you answered that as I posted.
And I gotta say…
LMFAO.
Ok the YES network definitely reads RAB.
What they say?
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ces-16849/
Bartlett is fucker
wow that wasn’t expected…
Really? Bartlett takes both of our phenoms out? I still refuse to believe he’s any good.
Posada mustve called that pitch from the dugout.
cmon joba, throw strikes
I can’t believe Bartlett hit that out….it looked way too far inside for Bartlett to do anything.
Wow Joba…. The rate he’s going, would it be possible that he doesn’t even pitch in the playoffs. There is only so much hope you can place on “potential”. How about some “results” please?
93mph…right over the heart of the plate…not going to get a lot of people out throwing like that.
so what you mean is that location>>>>>>>>>velocity?
yeah something like that.
Going out on a limb and saying that Joba has to be hurt. Otherwise, it means he has blown his wad for the year and these extra innings are defeating him.
But, he no longer has any rhythm to his pitching and his location is just horrible. He is relying to much on his slider that is no longer effective because he has no movement on his fastball.
Joba either needs to go to the pen for the post season or be shut down completely.
Hmmm… no.
I know, not a popular idea but he is not effective. If he makes 5 innings tonight, it will be a plus.
Tonight doesn’t matter. He can look like crap for two more weeks. He’s rounding back into shape; this is like Spring Training again.
If Joba looks good in the last week of September/first week of October, let him go get it.
From high 90s to low 90s. Screams hurt
Yeah. He was hurt in 2008, in Texas. But he just threw 94-95 to Gross this inning. The pitch Bartlett hit out was 92. I’m worried about Joba’s command right now, and his effectiveness going forward, but if he was hurt, they’d shut his ass down.
Ya, cause the Yanks would keep running him out there.
Wow Pujols is at 47 HR’s today….he;s good
he’s ok
I’ve seen better, like that Pedroia kid, have you seen his uniform? So gritty.
great job with the K there
I hate when Posada doesn’t block balls. Oh wait…
Crawford’s the kind of guy that pisses me off when he’s on the opposition, but would also love to have on my team.
ok molina…lets starting playing baseball..thanks
In the offseason, Joba should practice how to keep runners from stealing with help from Gardner.
In the DR.
For the hell of it.
I can has a DP?
apparently not
thats 1 “you can’t predict baseball” from Sterling already
also, shit
Wow. He just looks horrible and lost on the mound. Joba, season over. Figure it out and come back strong next year.
Jeter to Joba: Dont blow the game. I’m going to at least tie the Yankees hits record today and I dont want it to come in a loss!
Joba is making the decision about which ALDS series to choose pretty easy.
If he doesn’t shown some signs of improvement, i wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t pitch in the playoffs at all.
Holy shit Flaherty, shut the fuck up.
How many more starts does Joba get before we just shut him down for the year? If he pitches like this his next couple of starts, how can we risk having him start in the playoffs?
WHY THE FUCK IS MY BURRITO TAKING THIS LONG TO COOK IN THIS MICROWAVE?!?!?!??!?!
Joba’s trying his darndest to make the Yankees choose the 3-starter schedule for the first round of the playoffs.
They screwed this kid up. He’s a closer
this is exactly correct.
Mhm, I just burned my tongue.
These are exactly wrong. CC Sabathia should be a closer.
That’s it. I’m totally making a Terriost National Threat Level color coded indicator.
I didn’t want to do it, but you people are forcing me.
except hes never closed before. so how do you know hes not just an 8th inning guy? OGMz we need to trade him now!
Hilarious.
That’s what I like to see, Jobber!
Heh. There’s a reason you were down until Pena got hurt, Richard.
Meh, Pena would have K’ed too.
Joba is one of my fav. Yanks (along with Cano and others, but not imp.), but he is REALLY fucking pissing me off. I get so damn frustrated watching him struggle like this. And as I’m fucking typing Joba has the balls to overpower a guy and K him. Son of a bitch. Lol
If he would do that every time lol, he is one of my favorite Yankees too. I don’t like seeing him struggle like this, but if it makes him learn, and become a better pitcher next year, I am all for seeing him struggle this year. Sometimes we forget how young this guy is, and how much potential he has.
Oh believe me, I hear ya, and I DO realize his potential and how young he is, and that’s what makes him one of favs. But what frustrates the living shit outta me is the fact that besides his youth and potential, he can get batters out but he has been having trouble doing so for the past month and a half…
I’m amazed at what’s become of the Rays. Up until as late as a week ago, they were 4-5 games back and I was still waiting for then to bust out of it and make a run at the Sox. Now they’re roadkill.
They’re still a very talented team, but it just goes to show how much has to go right for a small market team like them to have a year like last year. Good health overall, productive seasons, and at least a useful bullpen that you can patch together.
Who would have thought Upton would go that far backwards this year? Dionar Navarro’s another big disappointment. I guess it shouldn’t surprise anyone when a young pitcher struggles, but expectations were huge for Price as well. They’ve had surprises on the upside, too. with Bartlett and Zobrist being two of them.
On balance, I thought they would have enough but they didn’t.
That’s the difference between large market teams and small market teams.
Margin for error.
did suzyn just imply that there was no one in AAA that can throw 95?
Fire Eiland and make Jeter the pitching coach!!!!
Nah, Jeter will just be Joba’s personal pitching coach.
got out of it
attaboy joba
Way to go Jober.
i can has 94-95mph on the corners all night Joba?
Just got outta teh shower.. WhatTheFuck?
Not gonna touch that one.
HAHA oops,
TWSS
It probably feels weird, huh? That’s called being cleaned.
heh, I set myself up for failure with that one.
Joba goes one innin’ gives up two runs wid da three strike owts and da crowd goes gaga fo’ Joba!
-Francesa’d
dare gaga ove dah jobber
THAT’S ATROCIOUS! ATROCIOUS!
ill teach you a lesson buddy
JETER U SNEAKY BASTARD
Yeahhhh boy! bunt that shit!
hahahahahahahahahaha well, that’s one way to do it….
Thataboy Jetes!!
Hahahahah!!!
If you see an opening, take it.
That’s what she said!
http://www.hiyoooo.com
Whoever she is, I like her.
LMAO
For all you anti-bunt types, you have a 6’9″ guy on the mound who fields his position poorly. That’s why its a good play, whether or not it’s successful every time. Of course, nothing ever is.
Again, anti-bunt types are anti-sacrifice bunting.
Not anti-bunting for a hit.
I don’t want Derek Jeter trying to fail in exchange for a small reward. I’ve got no problem with Derek Jeter trying to succeed by creatively exploiting a defensive weakness.
Amen.
How exactly do you tell the difference? If there are men on base? The execution of the play by the batter is the same regardless.
If you have a slow footed runner at the plate, who carefully squares around and makes deliberate contact, then jogs down to 1B, that’s a pure sac bunt. But Jeter never does that, he always attempts to bunt successfully.
Here’s the easiest way to tell:
There was nobody on base. Jeter wasn’t sacrificing, he was trying to get on.
Gardner does the same thing from time to time.
The rest of the time, you tell by context. Come on, Artist, don’t be so obtuse.
This is a better response than mine, below. I was about to post another comment to this effect. It’s different because it was a total surprise in the top of the 1st inning. There’s clearly a difference between what Jeter did in the first and what he does, and other players do, when they sacrifice themselves to move another runner over a base.
Glad you two guys are mind readers. The NYPD have some perps they want you to interview for them.
Glad you two guys are mind readers. The NYPD have some perps they want you to interview for them.
The Artist: 1
Strawman: 0
Sorry, but your ‘context’ argument is garbage. The exact same bunt performed with men on base is still bunting for a hit from the batter’s perspective. If you want to inject reading the player’s intent from your living room, that’s just silly. As is ignoring the specific defensive abilities of the opposing infielders over 7/100ths of a run in the abstract.
If you want to tell me the 3rd baseman is playing all the way in, and the batter still bunts it right at him, then that’s another matter. But that’s not what happened tonight, or the last time Swisher bunted.
Jeter’s sac bunts are not necessarily attempts to get on base successfully. If the infield is playing in and Jeter still bunts in order to move the runner over a base, that’s not an attempt to get a single, that’s more of a pure sac bunt.
I don’t want Derek Jeter bunting.
/Moneyball’d
I don’t quite understand what Moneyball was about.
/Brien Jackson’d
Actually I liked Moneyball quite a bit, I just think the bunting debate is silly. So yeah, that probably wasn’t the best tag to give to that comment.
Yeah… Sorry to call you out like that, but you walked into it.
JETER WITH THE BUNT.
I effing love baseball.
HELL YES! Bunt!
What a way to break out of a an overhyped slump. Hopefully that’ll get him going again.
Jeter just child please’d Nieman.
IETC
Check out this awful column. (Not the Shysterball post, the column he links to). I already sent a letter to the editor, and you should consider doing so as well. Or just read and be generally appalled.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....lumn-ever/
Ya, that writer is a piece of shit.
What a douchebag.
Niemann is a monster.
Hah! Jeter was running like his ass was on fire… Like Kevin Hart said in one of his standups “You know when you’re being chased and it feels like the person chasing you is like reaching out and touching the back of your neck, that’s when you really shift into your last possible gear and start to haul ass” Well that was Jetes…
great job by jetes
Jeter had Neimann’s delivery read to a tee.
ESPN: A rival talent evaluator believes that the Dodgers are better with Juan Pierre in the lineup.
The evaluator points to the struggles Manny Ramirez has had this season.
“He still is a good technical hitter, and he’s still a dangerous hitter. But he’s not driving the ball anywhere close to what he was doing in the second half of last year. I know the Dodgers would never bench him, but right now, I think they’re a better team with Juan Pierre in the lineup than him, because Pierre at least energizes the team. Manny is a bad outfielder, and if he’s not hitting, you notice that a lot more,” the man told ESPN’s Buster Olney.
Agreed on defense but really?
Put this into the Alex is a 1B/DH Folder
That’s why he belongs in the AL as a DH. He should opt out of his contract to go to an AL team. *cough* Yanks
Hmm… I’ll take Manny’s large sample over Manny’s small sample, and Juan Pierre’s large sample over Juan Pierre’s small sample.
This could be the first sign of Manny’s apocalypse, but I’ll bet against it. Going long on porkbelly futures.
You know what? I’ll bite. I don’t think it’s going to be some sort of sudden downfall or Mannyocalypse, but I think we’re firmly in the decline phase of Manny’s career. Dude will be 38 next year and, while I’m sure a lot of you won’t like this next point, he’s probably not taking the same PED’s he used to take now that he got busted. I think we’re in for the last couple of years of Manny being Manny.
One more thing… Any struggles are amplified in my mind because he plays in the NL. At this point I’m not convinced the NL is much better than the International League.
Is this the same talent evaluator who said A-Rod was on his last legs?
Dodgers with a burning hot Pierre > Dodgers with an average Manny
Neither are going to last forever, so Manny is the sensible option to put regularly in LF. Personally, I enjoyed watching the Dodgers more with Pierre but unfortunately that doesn’t effect managing decisions and team success.
Jeter now among the greats–Damon, Abreu…
damn that was a nasty curve to tex
Damn, he hit that kinda well, just a bit over (I think) it.
I’d be willing to bet alot that a 92mph fastball from Jeff Neimann generates as much force as a 92mph fastball from anybody else. I respect Flash because he clearly knows more about baseball and playing baseball than I ever could, but I don’t know if you could find a real scientific evidence that his 92mph fastball generates more force on impact. I can agree that maybe it is harder to center, or feels “heavier” because it is coming on more of a downward plane than your average 6’1″ pitcher, but not with more force.
I feel like it being harder to center would result in it being caught more awkwardly, which would in fact be more painful. Not necessarily more force, but the force distributed in a less-efficient manner.
Yes, that’s what I was thinking. Your muscles are used to catching the ball and bracing for impact from one plane that they get a little bit of a different workout when the ball comes from much higher.
That’s a good theory, maybe he as a catcher has trouble picking the ball up just like the hitter’s do.
But a guy that tall with much longer arms than most pitchers must affect the way the ball travels. Maybe the speed isn’t greater, but the ball spins more times on its way, as Kay suggested.
Higher RPMs from taller pitchers? That’s something we could measure with pitchFX. Alternatively, higher ending velocity due to being released closer to the plate?
Tex didnt take it himself even though he probably would have beat our Navarro?
Who else would have bet on BJ Upton having a huge year? Good thing my gambling is non-baseball-related.
There’s always 2010. (I’d be thrilled if they gave him away after this year, in order to keep Crawford and Desmond Jennings, but that’s unlikely)
I love how Flaherty ignores 4 pitches in a row 93, 94,95,94 mph , yet picks every 90mph to fill his Joba to dah pen agenda.
what is the YES gun reading? Because i dont think they look at gameday
It did read 95 94 a few times. When Flaherty saw it in the Bartlett AB he said, he looks like he did in the bullpen! lol I really can’t take this any more. I’d almost rather switch to ESPN if it wasn’t blacked out.
Has anyone ever heard the sound of two men simultaneously drowning?
If you haven’t, just turn up the sound on tonight’s YES broadcast.
It’s really bad.
Joba has settled down…But he TEH SUckY SucKY!!!!
“UPDATE, 7:19 p.m.: Joba looks silly at this point. He lacks command, velocity and now he’s shaking off Jose Molina.
Too bad they can’t send him back to the minors. That’s what he needs.”
So Pete is starting up the Joba to the minors crap again?
he is right. he needs some communication work. trust what molina wants. molina is a good catcher, he knows what to call.
And now we have confirmation that Pete’s full of crap on this front
Pete is just mad he looks like a pig.
If you ask me, we need to see the old Joba, the fist pumping, wearing emotions on his sleave Joba. Honestly, now this may just be a stupid hunch, but I think that might be affecting Joba more than one might believe. I mean think about it, he has a VERY STRONG personality (to say the least) and having to worry about keeping his emotions in check might be like distracting him or maybe that’s what is contributing to his diminish in his overall “stuff”. What do you guys think? Stupid hunch or might have some truth to it? lol
Dude, baseball players are a weird,tricky, superstitious,ritualistic bunch. It would not surprise me if those two things were connected. It seems unlikely but who knows.
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. Because I just put myself in his shoes and tried to figure out what it could possibly be that’s wrong with him, since I myself am currently a pitcher in college baseball, and aside from the obvious (like nagging injury of somesort or poor mechanics) that’s the best I could come up with, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes to me.
I’m also a college pitcher, and I stopped watching because i got so fed up with Joba, and now I’m watching the US Open, but at the beginning of the game he wasn’t getting on top of his pitches AT ALL. That’s why so many of his pitches were ending up and in
Yea, he really wasn’t at all, but that’s the least of my worries right now. I’m talking about overall since his struggles have started.
Yeah, but I would argue that it affects control, and I haven’t really noticed but that could be affecting his overall appearances
I think we’ll see the fist pumpin, screaming into the glove when he gets back on a roll. Hard to be super exuberant when you’re getting knocked around.
No,we won’t. Since late last year, when they told Joba to town his temper down, he really has not been the same pitcher, IMHO, stuff wise. Last year we said it could have been just some lingering effects of the shoulder injury or maybe some effects from being shut down, and it could’ve been that, no doubt, but since it has carried over to this year, I’m led to believe that it isn’t that, since everyone is claiming that he is perfectly healthy.
Seems like Dontrelle has been cured from his anxiety disorder http://bit.ly/3GLIcl
I’d be anxious if I sucked like him him and knew that I may have to pitch in the big league’s once again.
Maybe this’ll be like the Boston game for Joba: struggles early but good from there on out. Settle, bud. Settle.
oh, now joba throwing mid 90s… wtf is with the inconsistency
Al’s the man, as usual.
Not thrilled that it took him so long to put away Bartlett, but you have to love working quickly and ground ball outs.
1st fuckin baseman
Jamie Lynn is a cutie.
That’s an understatement…. wow
not as hot as Sloan (Emanuelle Chriqui) but Turtle has done well. Wonder where the rest of the entourage crew is tonight?
yeah Sloane is pretty dope as well.
Yeah, can you believe E blew off Sloan for that new girl of his? I know he can’t wait for her forever but damn Emanuelle is too fine too resist for me at least!
Things I’m not thrilled about: how I bet every other thread in the offseason will feature arguments about Hughes-as-setup-man, just like 2007-2008. Yargh.
It’s all Hughes, John. It has nothing to do with the starters or the offense clicking or getting Rodriguez back. Nope. All Hughes to the bullpen.
Pretty funny how things work out.
Well, having a quality setup man is a help. Remember how Sabathia was left in too long in Fenway, and Aceves being brought into a jam in the bottom of the eighth, because he was the best non-Mo reliever?
HAHAHA HOT DOGGIN
Robbie is good. Niemann isn’t.
Wow, I’m really surprised that B.J. didn’t make that play…
Yay. Now Michael Kay = Mr. Cool.
Damn lazy Dominicans in the outfield………..oh wait.
He was MR COOLIN IT!!
every moment of michael kay’s life has been a failed event at “mr coolin it”
*failed attempt
sorry, i was mr coolin that post
Facepalm on national audience. Good job BJ
Come on Brett, what exactly are you looking for?
Cano would have gotten roasted had he done what Upton just did.
Upton didn’t even run after the ball — lazy bum.
Bad example to juxtapose with Cano. Upton gets the same crap Cano gets.
Except Upton’s like 84 times better on defense than Cano.
I’m not sure if there’s anyone better at making the tough plays up the middle than Cano. If he improves a bit more on plays to his left, he’ll likely win a gold glove.
Besides, you can’t really compare a CF to a 2nd baseman defensively.
Chase Utley is a he-man on defense.
Chase Utley is just a he man in general. Go read the FanGraphs article from yesterday on just how good Chase Utley’s been.
Oh, I read it Matt. I read it.
This is why I love you, Pop.
Utley the best CF defensively in the game?
Upton!! I meant.
True, Upton does have a bad rap as far as that’s concerned.
But Cano gets blamed for being lazy everytime he makes an error. An error by Cano is automatically attributed to laziness with the “Dusty would’nt have made that mistake”.
He’s been a lot more consistent this season as far as not playing half-heartedly.
“But Cano gets blamed for being lazy everytime he makes an error.”
And Upton got blamed for being a lazy and a hot dog when he made this error, at least on the YES broadcast. Flaherty and Kay were falling all over themselves calling him a hot dog and saying he ‘Mr. Cool’d it.’
Am I the only one who didn’t think that Upton was “mr. cooling it” or hot dogging it. He tracked the ball to within a foot or two of the wall and then just dropped it. It was not a mental error, but a physical one.
Agreed. I think most people would have done that. Nobody runs all the way back and settles under that. If that was Gardner, it would have been treated like a typical drop.
+1
Upton is so good that he makes that play look easy. So silly.
Yeah, looked like he took his eye off the ball.
In Upton’s defense, that’s how he catches the ball, he makes that play 99/100 times. We see him do it first hand allllll the time.
Very true, and what did the YES guys expect him to do. Run full speed to within an inch of the wall, stop on a dime, then quickly turn and catch it. I thought he tracked it well, just messed the catch up.
Am I the only one who was dissapointed not to see a squeeze or suicide play with Gardner at the plate?
Yeah, I generally like bunting w/Gardner. He’s so damn fast he always has a good chance to beat it out.
If I’m him, I bunt it right at that big doofis on the mound.
That is how you MR COOL it!
They aren’t doing the simulated first inning are they?
If that’s it, Joba was terrific tonight. Big step forward.
I agree, he looked more aggressive and confident out there for sure.
He got some quick outs, had good velocity and good tempo. His last few outings it was slow, laborious and painful to watch.
terrific? what is it with this board and hyperboles. 55 pitches through 3 innings while allowing 2 runs isn’t terrific. he did show some improvement though with some things.
You don’t use hyperboles?
never in my entire life
Heh, that’s probably the best thing I ever seen out of you on here.
But your pitcher wins/era/losses argument was horrible.
No, his posts read like the AP wire.
joba settled down, cool. does anyone know if they are still doing that special warmup thing with him? the one they started after he had first inning struggles early on in the year.
so maybe people shouldnt overreact about 1 inning
It happens with the best of the pitchers
/Burnett’d
Or those first 3-4 innings (HRs)
/beckett’d
Joba’s hearkening back to his last start at the Trop.
“Damn, why’d I forget how easy this is?”
I think it is more like a, “ok, I guess I will start throwing 95 mph again” type of thing.
jeter’s dad sounds like cleveland from family guy
looks like him too
I was gonna bust your balls for implying that Charles Jeter and Cleveland look alike just because they’re black. Turns out they actually do look similar except Cleveland doesn’t wear glasses.
I got such a kick out of that interview last night. You don’t often see player’s parents interviewed, and they’re such a nice couple.
My reaction to Kay dogging the fans for ball reading: Pot. Kettle. Black.
I gotta go with Home Runs.
Anyone hear about the A-Rod-Kate Hudson engagement rumors?
Personally, I think he’s been more into the game since the whole divorce/Madonna episode.
Pfffft. PR bullshit, I don’t believe it. Jeter’s been engaged to every girlfriend he’s ever dated according to Page 6. With his road habits, he’d be silly to get married again. Unless he meets a bisexual chick who likes muscular women like he does. (Kate Hudson . . .uhhh, no comment)
I’ll bet good money Jete’s doesn’t get married till he’s done playing. Lots of players like him are that way. Actually, it’s the big money star players who get married while their playing that often cheat on their wives when they’re on the road, so staying single is actually the honest way to go for many ballplayers.
I hope A-Rod remains single. I really think that he’s more into the game that way.
Here’s the link btw http://bit.ly/ujZEC
That’s what I like about you, MLBT. You don’t give a flying fuck about these athletes as human beings, and view their entire personal lives in the context of how it affects the on the field. Good for you.
Yup.
I don’t give a crap about your personal struggles, GET THE HELL BACK OUT THERE AND START ENTERTAINING ME AGAIN, YOU COURT JESTERS!
Flash is about as fun as a bag of dicks. Geez lighten up dude.
Flash hates Kay. Other guys rag on him for fun, but Flash really has a hatred towards Kay.
haha. Word
Ha with “bag of dicks” you reminded me of Will Ferrell jumping out of the plane in the new Piven movie, The Goods.
How was the movie? any good?
Yeah I thought it was pretty funny. Good for a few laughs.
It’s all relative, though. Popavero thinks a bag of dicks sounds really fun.
I lol’d man. Like real loud.
That was good.
Haha. It was between you and Matty, I flipped a coin.
Come on Brett!
Ugh
Hahah IETC,BIPT H
I Enjoyed That Comment, Because It’s Probably True HIYOOOOOOO
IETC
Ace: Gimme all your wins!
He’s shooting a new movie-
“Ace Vultura-Stolen Win Detective”
Ima say Chipper Jones.
Over Mantle and Eddie Murray?
Mantle was my first guess but I figured that would be too obvious. I also didn’t know Murray was a switch hitter.
Put Mantle’s best 5 years up against anybody! He’s the best baby!
/Mr. Popavero
First, that’s grammatically incorrect–it should be “in his career.” Second, I thought they’d give Joba another inning. Damn. Well, innings 2 and 3 were nice.
Well he threw almost 60 pitches so I’m not surprised he only went 3.
Time for aceves to get another won of those horrible things called a win. he could be 11-1. but w-l doesn’t mean anything.
I know this post is sarcastic, but I still don’t get the point.
Hah, I knew it! You do hate Yankee wins.
Pitcher W-L tells you little about how well the pitcher actually performed. Aceves has been great, but come on.
And you say you don’t use hyperbole?
Damn. We should have held onto Randy Johnson. He won 17 games each year with the Yankees.
alex gonzalez, you have a problem understanding things.
you dont think something isnt right when Zack Greinke only has 3 more wins than someone in the Yankees bullpen?
Holy shit. I really have to restrain myself from calling names here.
If Ace allows zero to two runs here and the offense scores no runs, he gets no win.
If ace allows zero runs here and the offense scores three runs, he gets a win.
How much clearer does it need to be for you to understand?
good job ace
Damn you Eddie Murray and Chili Davis.
Murray I can see. Chili Davis?!!?
Damn, Arod was waiting on that changeup and still missed it.
damn that was a close play at second
Zobrist needs to work on the patented ‘Cano across the body throw’.
Gardner broke his wrist?
I bet his thumb will be sorry to hear that.
prediction time
the yanks score at least 3 runs through the order the next time
lol at this doofy lookin kid
I think Aceves should be the starter and Joba should go to the pen based on their records.
You kiss your mother with that mouth?
No, but I kiss yours!!!!
/hi fives friend
hahaha
That’s what I like about you Pat, you’re an easy laugh.
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Yup. Only one thing counts: wins and losses.
Yankees record in games played by Brett Gardner: 55-32 (.632)
Orioles record in games played by Nolan Reimold: 40-58 (.408)
Clearly, Brett Gardner is way better than Nolan Reimold.
Do you think the Nats would trade us Adam Dunn for Brett Gardner based on this? I mean, clearly, Brett Gardner wins ballgames.
Hell, trade him for Alex Cora, he wins ballgames.
Hell, trade him for Alex Cora, he wins ballgames.
Crawford LOOOOVES the short RF porch. GODDAMNIT IT WANT THAT MOFUGGER IN LF NEXT YEAR
It seems like the more the yankees win the less people come to the game chats, shit’s too boring i guess.
As long as alex gonzalez is here, this place is still bumpin’.
As long as mike gonzalez is here, this place is still W-L’n.
cuz there is nothing to complain about!
It has been very quiet lately.
Quick question for those of you watching on ESPN. Is Dave O’brein doing the play by play? If so, what sort of approach does he take toward the Yankees, because when he is doing Red Sox games on the radio, he loves to root against them. A lot.
/Jeter’d
Derek Jeta!
OHHHHH
1 more!!
Kay you are fucking terrible.
Seriously, Michael? You suck at this.
kay with ANOTHER reading the ball fail
He seriously thinks the short porch is like 240 ft away.
I think he just desperately wants to change the subject from anything he and Flaherty are talking about.
michael kay is undoubtedly that fan who screams “i got it!” at every pop up hit into any part of the stadium
Derek Jeter is good at baseball.
Upton always plays too shallow. Jeter’s double must be the tenth Yankee hit I’ve seen this year over his head. He did dog it on this one.
I’d be willing to bet that Upton gets to more balls over his head than he lets land.
How many bloops and liners has he caught in front of him? Lots.
Oh man, Jeter for the cycle tonight? Ties Lou with a triple, takes first place with a HR. That would be fucking epic.
C’mon we gotta get ace the dubya.