Sep
15

Game 146: Serving steak on a Mitre

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No one would like to erase his last start more than Sergio Mitre. The right hander didn’t look all bad, but he didn’t get any breaks from his defense, and when his team needed him to bail them out, he didn’t deliver. His final line — 4.1 IP, 11 H, 11 R, 9 ER, 2 BB, 5 K — will destroy his line for the rest of the season. But he can still salvage it with a few quality starts down the stretch.

The hope today is that the defense plays up to its standard, and that Mitre can avoid some of the situations he faced last time. I’d like to imagine his line would have been a bit prettier had the Yanks not been playing on Toronto’s turf. Even so, Mitre has a lot to prove in his last few starts, and with Andy Pettitte missing some time, he should get another three or four starts in this season.

Taking the hill for the Jays is a man who needs no introduction. This will be Doc’s fifth start against the Yankees this season. In three of those four he’s pitched a complete game, and in the remaining one he lasted seven. The Yanks got to him twice, though, while Doc has dominated in the other two. The series is tied 2-2, and the Yankees aren’t putting any of their regulars on the bench for this one.

Lineup:

1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Johnny Damon, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Nick Swisher, RF
9. Brett Gardner, CF

And on the mound, number forty-five, Sergio Mitre.

Categories : Game Threads
  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    Espn just had a clip of civility, or lack thereof in sports. The opening clip was my boy T.O., Ocho Cinco and you guessed it, Jober fistpumpin.
    They couldn’t find a clip of Papelbon?

    espn ftl

    • JobaWockeeZ

      What the fuck is so wrong and so unsportsmanlike of showing emotion?

      Oh wait he did it against their precious Red Sox…Nevermind

      • JGS

        I don’t think anything this year beats Papelbon’s douchebaggery in that game he blew against the Mets

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Uhh you’re kidding right? he was showing his love for the game and his teammates because he knows they are safe. He knows he screwed up and he wants to rally his team to win.

          Joba is just a douche who plays for the money because he is a Yankee despite his current salary and his fistpumped in Boston. What a clown.

          Papelbon is a saint. You can’t compare the two. And if Papelbon is a saint then K-Rod is basically God.

          • JGS

            touche

            • Lanny

              The ESPN hatred is hilarious here.

              • JobaWockeeZ

                ESPN fan huh?
                Not surprised.

              • Omar

                I’d rather watch two people trying to fire projectile turds into eachother’s mouth than watch ESPN.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  Really?

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Why does it seem like we’re playing Toronto like every other series now?

    • JobaWockeeZ

      I know, I find it annoying. Them and the O’s.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Yeah, and the Rays and Sox too.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Heh well since I find those games exciting and the Toronto and Baltimore games more boring I guess it feels like they play them more.

  • JGS

    if they win this game, they will have more wins than losses against Doc this year–has that ever even come close to happening?

  • bonestock94

    Mitre against Halladay, damn, should be frustrating lol.

  • alex gonzalez

    “His final line — 4.1 IP, 11 H, 11 R, 9 ER, 2 BB, 5 K”

    “he did a damn good job”

    /Dela G ‘ed

    • Tom Zig

      Well if we play defense today, Mitre should be fine.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      alex gonzalez: 1
      Strawman: 0

    • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

      His name is not Daniel Bard.

      BUST!!!

      /alex gonzalez’d

      • Lanny

        The posse here would say Mitre should get Cy Young votes if he goes more than 6 innings.

        • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

          hyperbole ftw

        • JobaWockeeZ

          The stupid hyperbole is hilarious here.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          The posse here would say Mitre should get Cy Young votes if he goes more than 6 innings.

          SalBoGrantLanny: 826
          Strawman: 0

  • ARX

    Ugh…thats all I can say at a Halladay start, ugh. I’ll check back after Jeopardy, hopefully its not the 4th inning already ;)

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    who’s hoping for Dice-BB to get shellacked tonight? :D

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      You just made me smile.

      My prediction: He actually looks semi-decent tonight, and Sox fans talk themselves into thinking that he’s good to go. Then, he shits the bed next turn out and toggles between meh and atrocious throughout the rest of the season.

      He does not make the Sox playoff roster. If such a thing exists at all.

      • alex gonzalez

        the red sox are going to the playoffs. dice-k was really good last year. he went 18-3 in only 29 starts. more of an ace then anything the yankees had last year other then that mike mussina feat.

        • Tom Zig

          he was an ace because he won 18 games…right Alex?

          How about the fact that he walked 5 batters a game and never made it past the 5th inning.

          • JGS

            but teh wins!!!!

          • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

            I got a feeling.

            • Lanny

              And wins don’t matter for a starting pitcher?

              Come on. I know you’re a saber geek but isnt the point of a pitcher winning games?

              • JGS

                yes, but just because you win games doesn’t make you a good pitcher.

                the yankees are 5-3 when Mitre is on the mound

                • Lanny

                  Winning certainly helps doesn’t it? That is the point of the game isnt it?

                • JGS

                  I never said winning was bad, it’s just not dispositive

                • Marcus

                  Winning games doesn’t necessarily mean you have a good pitcher, it just means you have a good team.

                  Zack Greinke is tied with Andy Pettite, Bronson Arroyo and Scott Baker with 13 wins. Which one of those guys doesn’t belong?

              • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

                my light saber was retired years ago.

              • alex gonzalez

                no pitchers who lose a lot of games but have good fancy metrics are better than guys who win in their minds.

                • JobaWockeeZ

                  ERA is not fancy.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  ERA is not fancy.

                  Exactly.

              • JobaWockeeZ

                And wins don’t matter for a starting pitcher?
                If you use it as a measure to see how good a pitcher is then no they don’t matter at all.

              • Tom Zig

                His FIP was 4.03

                That is a HUGE difference from his regular ERA

                He also had a 1.32 WHIP

                • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

                  Don’t give me that bullshit FIP.

              • king of fruitless hypotheticals

                no lanny, the point of the pitcher is to throw balls, and keep the other team from scoring runs, as best as he is able.

                you may note, if you read teh rules, that the winner of the game is the one that scores more runs, not the one that keeps the other team from scoring more. that may not seem like anything more than a semantic difference, but it is a difference nonetheless.

                i enter into evidence Aceves and his 10 wins, and Johan Santana with his eleventy billion no-decisions.

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        WHEN I SEE YOU SMILE…

        i can face the world!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I’m hoping he pitches well enough to earn a spot in the playoff rotation, then gets shellacked.

      • thurdonpaul

        i would like to see that happen too

        • Lanny

          They don’t have the cajones to sit him if hes pitching even average in the playoffs.

          • JGS

            because the Sox are 6-1 when he pitches in October, never mind that he has actually been pretty lousy

            • JGS

              once again–wins don’t tell the whole story

              • Lanny

                Winning in Oct doesnt matter now???

                Id rather have a pitcher be 6-1 in Oct than have great numbers.

                Dont u?

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Winning in Oct doesnt matter now???

                  I’m going to say this loudly and clearly, so both you and alex gonzalez can hear:

                  NOBODY IS SAYING WINS DON’T MATTER. WE’RE SAYING WINS ARE A POOR METRIC FOR EVALUATING A PITCHER’S PERFORMANCE OR ABILITY.

                  Stop arguing against strawmen.

                • JGS

                  missing the point

                  here are his lines:

                  4.2 innings, 3 runs
                  4.2, 4
                  5, 2
                  5.1, 2
                  5, 3
                  7, 0
                  4, 5

                  in those 7 games the Red Sox scored 6, 2 (the loss), 11, 10, 7, 2, and 8 runs

                  yea, he’s been amazing

                • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

                  Damn you JGS, with your dago mustache and your greasy hair.

                • JGS

                  look, what did I just say about racial slurs

  • Riddering

    It seems like every time Mitre starts we’re playing the Jays.

    • JGS

      almost–this is his fourth start against Toronto out of nine total

      • Lanny

        If you’re going to start Mitre why not start him against a team thats quit like Tor?

        • JGS

          In Mitre’s starts, the Yankees are:

          1-2 against Toronto
          4-1 against everyone else

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            And only one thing matters: wins.

          • king of fruitless hypotheticals

            regression to the mean starts tonight!!!

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    Man, this meattray dude is a strike throwing MACHINE!!!

  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    Damn, Eiland eye twitchin like a fiend.

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Does that help Robbie’s UZR?

  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    This just in via Kay.

    Wells has a big contract, one might call it an albatross.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Know what I just realized? The Yanks might cut Mitre over the winter, he’ll catch on with an NL club like the Padres or Astros, and he’ll put up a 3.75 ERA next watch.

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals

      can we at least trade him for something? :(

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Yes. Chad Gaudin.

        Think about it…

        • king of fruitless hypotheticals

          my mind is blown.

          i’m up for keeping either one of these guys a la brett tomko ’09.

          • Lanny

            Well the NL makes Penny look like Cy Young.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Lanny/Sal/Grant/Bo: 0
              Mastery of the Reply Button: -916

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            i’m up for keeping either one of these guys a la brett tomko ‘09.

            I’m not quite sure if you’re picking up what I’m putting down…

            I’m talking about trading Sergio Mitre for Chad Gaudin. Literally. Not a joke.

            • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

              We already gave cash to the Padres.

              • king of fruitless hypotheticals

                no, we just DFA’d Cash…

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                Damn, that’s right. You, you’re good, Mike Pop. You’re good, you…

        • Ed

          I see where you’re going with that, but, that one is resolved already.

          I believe we could still trade Mitre for Freddy Guzman or Jason Hirsh though.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Oooh, let’s make it Freddy Guzman. It’ll look all the more brilliant when Guzman has two or three critical steals during the ALDS on our way to the title.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    FYI – NHL preseason on MSG. Woot.

    • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

      How good is John Tavares?

  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    Does anyone else find espnboston.com a funny confirmation of many of our thoughts over the past few years?

    • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

      hmmm. guess not.

    • PinstripesForeverDougie

      Agreed, Drew! NESPN = NESPN Boston.

  • mike jones

    Anybody know what Nick Swishers walk up song is?

    • JGS

      save a horse, ride a cowboy

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        noshit?! thats funny! and very a propos

        • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

          I think it’s gay soulja boy.

          • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

            oh, and phil collins.

            ‘In the air tonight”

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      MIKE JONES!!!!!

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        who?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          MIKE JONES!!!!!

          • king of fruitless hypotheticals

            WHO?

  • JGS

    really knocked the crap out of that one

  • Riddering

    BETTER THAN A BUNT.

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals

      haha beat me to it :)

  • JGS

    think tex is going to bunt here?

    • alex gonzalez

      you don’t bunt your number 3 hitter

      • JGS

        that was sarcastic in the extreme

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        I agree.

        Corollary: You don’t bunt your #1 hitter if he’s Derek Jeter.

        Tex Message, 2009 – .285/.381/.551
        The Blazing-Copper Horse, 2009 – .330/.397/.468

        Taking the bat out of either of their hands: Not a super smart idea at the moment

        • alex gonzalez

          if you are a leadoff hitter you have to bunt sometimes.

          • JGS

            for hits? sure, why not

            to sacrifice? no you don’t

            • alex gonzalez

              joe girardi and every other manager in all of baseball ever disagrees with you.

              • BigBlueAL

                Earl Weaver never bunted.

                • alex gonzalez

                  not true. see http://www.baseballgb.co.uk/?p=471 specifically “Weaver’s message is not to ‘never bunt’, it is to only bunt in specific situations.”

                • JGS

                  agreed

                  none of those “specific situations” involve .330 hitters not trying to hit the ball

                • alex gonzalez

                  earl weaver didn’t have many .330 hitters when he managed. Al bumbry is the closest and he did bunt in 1973 under weaver and when he .318 in 1980 he bunted 9 times under weaver. so you are incorrect again.

                • alex gonzalez

                  yeah i didnt think you would respond to facts

                • JGS

                  maybe Bumbry was bunting on his own

                • alex gonzalez

                  so he bunted 10 times under weaver on his own. and weaver who would never have a .330 hitter bunt let him keep doing it. if he showed bunt in an at bat when weaver didnt want it, weaver would go out there personally and yell, he was insane.

                • JGS

                  maybe…who knows? not really sure how it’s relevant.

                  say weaver called all nine of them. how is that proof that it’s smart baseball?

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
                • alex gonzalez

                  thats not what i was proving. try re-reading the thread. my point was that all managers have believed that it is smart baseball.

                • JGS

                  because it’s intuitive, so it became “baseball knowledge”

                  doesn’t make it right

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Alex, I’m going to be blunt:

                  You have yet to prove anything to anyone. Probably ever.

              • JGS

                what Lanny said

              • http://twitter.com/Jacksoneem Jackson

                Well that’s certainly not true. Francona doesn’t bunt very often, I think he’s had some success as a manager. I’m pretty sure Earl Weaver wasn’t a fan of bunting, he wasn’t to shabby either.

                • BigBlueAL

                  Shhhhh. Dont give credit to the Red Sox manager even though he deserves it.

                • alex gonzalez

                  reading comprehension fail. i said “if you are a leadoff hitter you have to bunt sometimes.” the reply “to sacrifice? no you don’t” i replied “joe girardi and every other manager in all of baseball ever disagrees with you.” you claim that is not true citing francona and weaver. both of those two managers have had players sacrifice in certain situations. they didn’t/don’t do it often, but there isn’t a manager who never ordered a bunt.

              • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

                I agree with gonzalez on this one. The fact that people neglect the benefit of a bunt is strange to me. It has a place in the game. Yes, even in Yankee Stadium.
                Joe Girardi probably has a better baseball mind than all of us. Yet, people curse him when his player’s bunt, whether he calls for it or not.

            • Lanny

              Giving up outs is not smart. Especially when that player is one of the best hitters in the league.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                Amen, brother.

              • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

                Bunting is not “giving up an out.” It’s an attempt to get on base. It’s also generally an attempt to move runners into scoring position. Also, it’s a way to keep the defense honest.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Bunting is not “giving up an out.” It’s an attempt to get on base.

                  No, it’s not. Sacrifice bunts are called sacrifice bunts for a reason. You’re trying to get on base, but not trying hard.

                • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

                  Dude, people condemn bunts here whether it is an attempted drag bunt or a bunt down the third base line.

                  I didn’t say Sacrifice bunt. I said “Bunting is not “giving up an out.”

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  No, they don’t.

                  When Jeter or Gardner bunt for a hit, it’s treated very differently than when Jeter or Swisher or Posada lay down a sac bunt.

                  Apples and oranges.

                • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

                  That’s just not true, man. Any time a player shows bunt we hear(read) the cavalcade of WTF!!! AHHH! What is wrong with Girardi!!?

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Yes, because when a player shows bunt, he’s not bunting for a hit. He’s sacrifice bunting.

                  Bunting for a hit involves sleight of hand. So, you wouldn’t see Jeter or Gardner “showing” bunt unless he’s sac bunting.

                • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

                  Players show bunt when they pull back when a pitch is out of the zone. It doesn’t mean it is irrevocably a Sac attempt.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Your consistent ability to offer theories from the 1940s without ever examining their validity is shocking. You really ARE Joe Morgan.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Logical consistency practically demands it, doesn’t it?

  • Steve H

    Funny how SalBoGrantLanny shows up on a day when the pitching matchup is Halladay vs. Mitre……..

  • Brazilian Yankee

    Thankfully we don’t have to face Halladay in the playoffs.

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    good inning.

    halladay used six different pitches, and threw 16. if we keep this up, he’ll be knocked out of the game partway through the 8th!!!

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Heh.

      Barney: I’m worried, guys… after this case of beer, and the case in the fridge, there’s only one case left! We should get some more beer. (yeah, we should get more beer!)
      Homer: Alright, alright, I’ll get more beer!

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        meat tray just SMOKED that lineup on 7 pitches! he’ll be able to throw 11 innings at this rate!!!

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    That pitch was just unfair.

    I used my dvr to rewind that and watched it like 4 times.

    • Brazilian Yankee

      Last pitch to Matsui? It caught plenty of the plate… Matsui just guessed something else. It wasn’t Doc’s most impressive pitch.

      • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

        His cutter always impresses. I believe it’s a top pitch of his.

        That pitch was filth man. So much movement.

  • BigBlueAL

    Hey Mike I remember you tweeting about how you only needed like 12 points or so to win your fantasy football matchup this weekend and you had 2 players left to play, did u pull it off????

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Oh yes, no thanks to T.O. though. Zach Miller FTW.

      • BigBlueAL

        Damn you had TO, yeah he struggled but Zach Miller is a Top 10 TE and did well last night.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          I had about 32 pts in WR on my bench, and got about 6 out of my starting WR.

          • BigBlueAL

            I feel you. I usually always have my freakin bench dominate while my starters struggle.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Zach Miller FTW.

        Upside/Downside:

        Upside – The Raiders defense is now legit. Ellis and Seymour bring a much needed physicality, the DT’s are solid, Morrison and Howard are excellent linebackers, Asomugha and Johnson are great corners. The Raiders D is hard hitting and should keep them in games, and the offensive running game can win some games as well, Russell’s still “meh”, but the Raiders have the talent now. They should be the second best team in the AFC West easily, and could go 9-7 or 10-6.

        Downside: That coaching staff sucks. They had that game wrapped up, and then started playing soft in the 4th quarter, and it wasn’t the players, it was the scheme. They called off the dogs. Massive coaching brainfart. I think they’re going to outthink themselves into losing, which is why they’ll end up 7-9 instead of 9-7 or 10-6.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Well, I was going to take Chris Cooley, but some douchebag grabbed him about two picks before me.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Heh.

            I prefer douchenozzle, thank you very much.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    Nice try Cano

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    bad robby, no swinging at the first pitch!

  • Joey

    Anyone out there buy NHL 10 yet? Heard its even better than last years, much more realistic. Anyone want to throw out their own quick reviews?

    • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

      I love it man. Was playing it with a friend today for a couple hours. Go Islanders!

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Swishahouse been on fire lately.

  • ARX

    RBI triple, plzkthx.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    C’mon Grit!

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    NICK SWISHER!

    see, there’s a case where Joe could have PR Guzman for Jorgie, then replaced JoPo with Molina. Can’t do that if you only have grit gutner.

    Guzman would have already stolen second, and then just scored.

  • Ashish

    You guys have to see this clip of Derek Jeter. It’s only a little over a minute but make sure to watch it till the end.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHMIY-1QTNM

    • BigBlueAL

      LOL. I mean she was in his suite with his family and everybody knows they are together. Im all for his privacy but cmon not that hard to just laugh that off, I mean she was right there with him during that interview.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    The Yankees #8 hitter has an .884 OPS.

    • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

      Shouldn’t he be hitting 7 and Cano 8?

    • alex gonzalez

      the red sox #3 has an .876 ops. i dont really use ops often though.

      • BigBlueAL

        Why am I not surprised.

      • Steve H

        Stunned. You could knock me over with a feather.

    • Johan Iz My Brohan

      But teh batting average!

    • Mike

      ugh swisher is not a great player, i really cant stand people who act like hes a good hitter…there is a little more to hitting than drawing walks

      • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

        Ugh.

      • Rick in Boston

        Like hitting for power? Cause he does that.

      • Steve H

        alex gonzalez’d?

        If not? Fail.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Like hitting for power, which he does really well.

        There’s a little more to hitting than batting average.

        • Lanny

          You can nitpick Swisher all you want but you do realize you’re nitpitcking the #8 hitter?

        • Mike

          Yes there is, he is a decent power hitter, but hes not a boarder line allstar, or one of the most valuable yankees hitters, as people on this website have claimed

          if I had to pick an OF from a butch of crappy players Nick Swisher would probably be my first choice, but hes still a crappy hitter…

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Fun Fact of the Night:

            Nick Swisher’s 2009 wOBA of .379 is 15th best among all MLB outfielders (qualifiers).

            Better than Ethier, Kemp, Abreu, Ichiro, Drew, Crawford, Pence, Markakis, Granderson, Sizemore, and Jones.

      • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

        He may not be a great “average” hitter. That doesn’t take away from his ability with the bat.

  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    18 strikes 17 balls so far for Dice-BB. Same old shit I suppose.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Yup and he’s basically unscathed so far despite that…

      • Johan Iz My Brohan

        But I thought Abreu brought patience to the lineup!

  • ARX

    I’ll take it!

  • Steve H
    • alex gonzalez

      wheres Matt?

    • Lanny

      Were you patiently waiting all day to ask him that??? You may need to focus on other things in life.

      • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

        Heh, Lanny telling people to focus on other things in life.

        Can’t make this stuff up.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Hey Popavero, you know what sounds like fun right now? Let’s go to another website and complain that the posters there are sharing humorous movie quotes with one another in a series of in-jokes and groupspeak references, jealous that we can’t be part of the fun because we’re not witty or charming enough to ever be entertaining to anyone.

          You game?

          • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

            ONLY if we use like 4 different names. Also, we can complain about things and when asked what we would do to fix it, we just ignore it and go to ANOTHER website and repeat the process.

      • Steve H

        Yes. I even called in sick to work, just waiting and waiting. I almost broke the rules and asked during a non-open thread, but I go by the book. Thank you for your concerns SalBoGrantLanny.

        • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

          Steve, you know what? You should change your name into like 3 or 4 different ones. You can keep an eye on alex gonzalez even better that way, and confuse him while you’re at it.

          • Steve H

            Let’s get one thing straight, there is no confusing alex gonzalez.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    We missed you too Grit.

  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    bad ball read by Swish?

  • Brazilian Yankee

    Gardy!! Bad read by Swish..

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    Brett!!!!

  • http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/riddering/Baseball/reachforthestaaaaars.jpg Riddering

    Damn, Gritner. SLICK.

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    what’d swish do? he got to 3rd, yes?

  • http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/riddering/Baseball/reachforthestaaaaars.jpg Riddering

    I’d love to see Cone’s bookmarks.

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    No pitcher is safe.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Johnny Damon has been all sorts of suck lately.

    • Brazilian Yankee

      That was a shitty way to end the inning. But at least we are getting to Doc, unlike last time out.

  • http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/riddering/Baseball/reachforthestaaaaars.jpg Riddering

    Batters faced: Halladay 11, Mitre 7

  • Lanny

    Surprised that Girardi didn’t have Jeter bunt there.

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals

      your right–suicide squeeze with nick–who’d see that coming? if it didnt work, jeter would have scored Grit on his hit anyway.

  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    I missed a bunch of the postgames lately. Did Girardi say he called for bunts when guys like Derek or Swish made an attempt?

  • Brazilian Yankee

    Comon Mitre, don’t give it back right away.

    • Omar

      Mitre will give it up like a freshmen at the senior prom.

  • Omar

    My nipples are kind of firm.

    • Omar

      Whooopppss….wrong tab.

      On topic:

      Mitre blows.

  • Dela G

    mitre’s got this shit

    • Dela G

      HOLY COW

      Never mind

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals

      que?

      • Dela G

        i typed this before the HR occured…

    • alex gonzalez

      another classic quote. can we blame the defense for the walk and home run.

      • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

        I blame Posada for calling for the home run.

        • Steve H

          Varitek never would have called that. Mitre would be working on a shutout with the Captain back there.

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    This kid Snider has a future.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    That was a bomb.

  • http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/riddering/Baseball/reachforthestaaaaars.jpg Riddering

    It’s okay, guys. He’s just pitching to the score.

    • Brazilian Yankee

      Either that or he sucks. Can’t figure out which one.

    • Steve H

      Yup. If the Yankees score 9, and Mitre gives up 8 it’s a great pitching performance.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Correct. Wins are the only thing that matters.

  • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

    Damn you, Matt Stairs lite.

  • Lanny

    Got to love Mitre. Given a 2 run lead he promptly walks the lead off hitter.

  • Dela G

    Wow, i just came home, turned on the MLB.tv, and the first pitch i see is a bomb from snyder

    holy cow

  • Omar

    The Yankees rotation for a three game streak:

    Joba Chamberlain
    Sergio Mitre
    Chad Gaudin

    :facepalm:

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals

      bet we win all three of them :)

      • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

        Yankees have the best record in baseball. The Yankees are the least flawed team in baseball.

        :jumping with glee:

        • king of fruitless hypotheticals

          …are you lanny’ing me pop?

          X[

    • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

      1 down, 2 to go. I like our chances.

    • alex gonzalez

      wow that could be a painful stretch. especially for the bullpen.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Nah … there’s what, nine guys down there?

      • JGS

        good thing it’s September

    • http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/riddering/Baseball/reachforthestaaaaars.jpg Riddering

      And all three are must-wins!

      OH NOEZ.

  • Dela G

    slick play by mitre

    he looks like mark sanchez

    pretty cool i guess

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Travis Snider is unimpressed with the mere existence of Sergio Mitre.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Wake up guys. Two outs.

  • Dela G

    Hahahaha Tex just forgot how many outs there were

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Outs fail.

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    …andy lose any money by missing this start? think it will cost him one of his bonus levels?

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Swisher: timing fail.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Now that was a cheapie.

  • http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/riddering/Baseball/reachforthestaaaaars.jpg Riddering

    At least no one was on base.

  • JGS

    bandbox

  • Dela G

    jesus christ

    3-2… ugh

  • Brazilian Yankee

    Mitre FTL

  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    Swish with the Ichiro attempt.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    Dice-Roll has thrown 54 pitches (27 strikes 27 balls), has 2 walks, and still has a no hitter. Something is wrong here.

    • JGS

      nope. that sounds like typical Dice-BB

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals

      fuck the brs :(

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Well it looks like even the Angels like to lay down for the Sox.

      • Mikey K-9

        Maybe the Angels think the first round alds started tonight.

  • Steve H

    That “Kevin Long Appreciation Thread” was such ballwashing bs. It was like ESPN talking about the Sox. You guys need to understand that the hitting coach deserves no credit for good hitting. Good hitting comes from the starting pitchers ability to rally his teammates.

    • Dela G

      let’s hope you were kidding

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Sarcasm keyword alert:

        “Good hitting comes from the starting pitchers ability to rally his teammates.”

  • Brazilian Yankee

    No astroturf tonight, so I guess we are gonna have to blame Mitre’s suck fest on the stadium dimensions.

  • Steve H

    So yeah, it appears Mitre is pitching poorly, but it’s too early to judge. We can’t truly judge his performance until we see how many runs the Yankees score.

    • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

      I rather he go 5 innings with 7 runs and get the win than 8 with 3 runs and get the loss.

      • alex gonzalez

        im glad we can agree on something

    • JGS

      +45

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      All depends on his tRA.

      His teammate Rallying Ability, of course. That’s what that acronym stands for, right?

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    I know he’s under control for next year but there’s no way this guy pitches any sort of innings for the Yankees next year, right? I know he’s the fifth starter and isn’t exactly pitching key innings but he has been nothing short of dismal in his time with this team. There has not been one thing about Mitre, except for the fact that he’s back this quickly after TJS, that has been impressive. And while that’s something to marvel at, in a way, it’s not desirable to have him essentially rehabbing at the Major League level.

    Short version: I don’t wanna see Mitre in the Bronx in ’10.

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals

      can he be in SWB?

      • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

        Methinks this is an overreaction. 4.72 FIP, just coming back from tommy john. Of course I don’t want to see him in the rotation to begin the year but I want him back. Then again, I have a soft spot for the guy.

        • king of fruitless hypotheticals

          that’s nasty…this is a family blog!

          i think he can be better, and i think he can be serviceable, but we may be pretty well set for what he provides, and if he has to be in NY, well, see ya…

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          5.05 tRA (98+). He gives up hard contact and though the general lack of walks is nice, he doesn’t seem to be able to consistently keep the ball down as a “pitch to contact” guy should. When such a pitcher can’t get the ball down, bad Sergio Mitre–which is pretty much all the time Sergio Mitre–is what happens.

          • Steve H

            So what you’re saying is, let him go, he’ll go to the NL and have an ERA under 3, and then Cash can be teh suxor again!!!

          • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

            Arg.

            I was at his 1 hitter, so he swept me off my feet in a totally non-homosexual manner.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          I’m with you, Mike. He is what he is, but he eats up innings and is a serviceable 5th/6th starter. But I admittedly don’t expect much and won’t get too emotional about it one way or the other.

          I think IPK has much more upside and hope he gets a shot first, but I have no problem with Mitre.

          • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

            The only thing different is I would get emotional if he got cut.

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            I wouldn’t say Mitre is serviceable at this point. Serviceable is an ERA+ of like…85-90. Mitre is not capable of doing that right now and I don’t think he will next year.

    • Brazilian Yankee

      Couldn’t have said it any better.

    • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

      We can pick up an option on him, I’d guess it’s cheap. I think he will be a good pitcher moving forward.
      Our Wang is unavailable, AP may or may not retire, why not have a sinker baller who can only get stronger in the organization.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    Anyone tuning in to the Rangers/Bruins preseason game? Rangers losing 1-0 but they look good. Hopefully I could get tickets to the Rangers/Red Wings game on December 6th (3 days before my birthday!)

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Yes, this Gilroy kid looks fantastic.

  • Steve H

    Matt ACTY/BBD, glad you’re here, hoping to finally (despite Lanny’s objection) get an answer.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-581848

    • Lanny

      I guess you really need to know it. Kind of a head scratcher and you have to have other things going on in your life right?

  • Dela G

    man i hate facing halladay so much

    its like the 6th time or something

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    A-Rod is a fucking machine.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    A-Rod failed for not getting a home run.

    • Steve H

      +2. And if A-Rod had +2 total bases, he would have succeeded.

      • Steve H

        But he’s still a terrible person, and a cheater. But not the Andy Pettitte kind of cheating. Just the injecting an illegal substance to help performance kind of cheating, unlike Pettitte, who simply injected an illegal substance to help performance.

  • Dela G

    Well a-rod made me feel much better there

    he’s on fire

    on FIYA!

  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    Al is seriously a hit machine.

  • Brazilian Yankee

    Blue Jays’ announcers said in the beginning of the game that the Yankees have been taking advantage of the launchpad known as New Yankee Stadium. Later on they say that Lind’s homer was a towering shot. No mentions of taking advantage of the bandbox or anything like that.

    • JGS

      hard to call out an objectivity fail when we have Sterling and Waldman

      • Steve H

        Yeah, but we admit that too.

  • http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/riddering/Baseball/reachforthestaaaaars.jpg Riddering

    KLong wants an A-Rod appreciation thread.

  • JGS

    Kendry Morales single

    no more no-hitter for Dice-BB

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Of course, if it was 9-1 either way A-Rod would be safe.

  • Brazilian Yankee

    ’08 Alex gets in there easily.

  • Dela G

    wait a second??!!

    was he really out?

    i thought he beat the tag

    • Dela G

      damn never mind

      yes made me think otherwise now

  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    I’ve heard enough of Flaherty talking. Holy shit. He may like hearing himself talk more than Kay.

    • Dela G

      he and kay love themselves a lot

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Gaaaaaah that could come back to haunt them.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Jorge + Breaking ball = ugly.

    • Brazilian Yankee

      Tex is even worse with changeups but nobody talks about it.

  • Dela G

    ugh

    i knew the hook was coming on posada

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    58 pitches through 3 innings…out in the sixth if we can keep this up…

    SOMEBODY TELL ROBBY…

  • Dela G

    my god

    the blue jays are abusing mitre… again :(

  • http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/riddering/Baseball/reachforthestaaaaars.jpg Riddering

    That was really fucking shitty.

  • Dela G

    Dice-BB gets outta 2nd and 3rd 1 outs.

    0-0 mid 5

  • BigBlueAL

    Of course, Dice K gets out of a runner on 2nd and 3rd w/1 out jam.

    • Lanny

      He is a pretty good pitcher ya know

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Good/lucky, whatevs. Same result, right?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        No, actually, I don’t know that.

        There’s evidence that says that he’s good, and evidence that says that he sucks.

        It’s far from conclusive either way.

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    chicks dig meat tray.

  • Lanny

    Typical Mitre start. A run an inning. Lefty’s pounding him.

    Girardi has 15 pitchers in the pen. Why not get one of them in here?

    • Rick in Boston

      Because Girardi just wants to make you angry.

  • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

    Well, it looked promising early…

    Not that the game’s over. Just acknoledging that the picture for the Yanks looks much bleaker.

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Babe Ruth?

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Al Leiter-”What Mitre needs is a 3rd pitch, a 4th pitch and probably an arm transplant. “

  • Dela G

    the answer has to be babe ruth, right?

  • http://opensourcecomedy.net/images/melky_box.jpg Drew the Pretty Pretty Princess

    This is not good.

  • Dela G

    man this guy is giving up batting practice

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Damn. Crushed.

  • Brazilian Yankee

    How is this helping the team?