Aug
06

Game 114: One game at a time, one inning at a time, one pitch at a time

By Mike Axisa

1. Damon. CF - oh yeah, Melky’s totally being benched
2. Jeter, SS
3. Abreu, RF
4. A-Rod, DH
5. Giambi, 1B
6. Nady, LF
7. Cano, 2B
8. Pudge, C
9. Betemit, 3B

And on the mound, Sidney “will pitch for food” Ponson.

Notes: Sorry the site hasn’t been updated as much as usual lately; Ben’s on vacation, Joe’s in the middle of moving, and I’m rather swamped at work. It’ll be back to normal soon … all signs point to Ian Kennedy starting on Friday, and by Friday I mean SaturdayChien-Ming Wang will remain on crutches for the foreseeable future … the Yanks had scouts attend Freddy Garcia’s so-so audition … Chad Moeller cleared waivers and was assigned to Triple-A Scranton … Joba’s been placed on the DL, but that’s all we know so far; no news is good news, right?

Posted on Wednesday, August 6th, 2008 at 7:20 pm in Game Threads.

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Jamal G. says:

“Sorry the site hasn’t been updated as much as usual lately…” Really? Damn, you guys must have some really high standards.

 

Joba has rotator cuff tendinitis, rest and then a throwing program in a week. Sounds not bad, right?

Chip says:

Where did you get that? Sounds like one of the best we could have hoped for

Pete Abe’s latest update.

Chip says:

Hmmm looks like next season will be the season of the big three instead of this one. Wouldn’t it be awesome to see them all pitching in the playoffs though?

B says:

Big 3? Its really only the big 2! Joba and Hughes.

 
 
 
 
 
Yankee Fan in Chicago says:

Dave Pinto has a post up at Baseball Musings quoting some Yankee blogger I’d never heard of that Joba has a rotatorcuff tear. Please Gd no.

 
Chip says:

Honestly, if we can get Hughes back for a few starts at the end of the year and Kennedy can hold down the fort, we just might take the wild card

Jamal G. says:

Yessir. Only three back, nothing to say the last rites for.

 
TurnTwo says:

only 3 GB behind Boston. forget the Rays for now.

 
The Honorable Congressman Mondesi says:

I’ve just got to say…Even though most of the people reading/commenting here are relatively savvy baseball fans (so it’s not like the people here were unaware coming into 2008 of just how talented the Rays’ prospects and young MLBers were/are)… Just think about this for a minute:

The Tampa Bay Rays are probably going to win the AL East in 2008.

I mean, I’m sure we’re all used to the idea at this point in the season, but think about that sentence for a sec. The F’ng Tampa Bay Rays are probably going to win the AL East division title. That’s pretty extraordinary, wouldn’t you say? Man… Obviously they’re a rival so I’m not exactly psyched for them or anything, but good for them (whether they win the division or not).

Jamal G. says:

No, more bad for us than good for them. The Rays can easily be the most talented team in the Majors over the next three, four seasons. Again, that’s why I’m glad our strength in the far system is on the mound.

 
 
 
 
Ivan says:

Yeaaaaaaaaaaa lets go out there and kicks some ass. Rocky, Rocky, Rocky, Rocky, Rocky. Lets Go Yankees.

 
TurnTwo says:

dont you negate the Melky benching, though, when you basically replace him with Betemit in the lineup?

 
Geno says:

I like this lineup.

 
Ivan says:

Joba with Rotator Cuff tendinitis, not too bad. Just probably have some rest and evaluate the guy. Wouln’t be surprise if he comes back, at the same time wouldn’t be surprise that he doesn’t.

 
Steve H says:

Rays have 12 of first 15 in September against Yanks/Sox, if we can pick up a game or two by the end of the month, we definitely can make up some ground there. Then they have 4 with the Twins, who may still be in contention. Rays aren’t in the clear just yet.

Jamal G. says:

Only haters, dummies, or short-sighted fans have given up on this team right now.

Ivan says:

Yea, with two months to go.

 
Michael in AZ says:

Thats silly. Given up is a strong word, but their offense is disappointing, they have one of the worst starting staff’s in baseball as it looks today, Mo is banged up when they need them most, and Girardi is starting to over-use the pen as he did earlier in the year when he had no choice.

IPK to the rescue, and catch Boston as well?? Tough order, and I don’t see much to hang my hat on.

Ill be watching, but Im realistic

Steve H says:

Ok, if Joba misses 2 starts, it’s essentially the same rotation of the team that went on a tear out of the break. And Giese will most likely be an uprgade over what Rasner has been giving us. Pudge is an upgrade over Molina. Cano and Abreu are hitting well, and Damon is healthy, and when he is at the top of the lineup, gets things going. Their offense has more than enough potential to be one of the best, if not the best for the rest of the season. Has it been disappointing? Clearly. But is there any reason to think they can’t turn it around? They have been lately, Melky appears to have been benched making the offense even better. While we aren’t the favorites, we’re not exactly huge underdogs here.

Steve H says:

And I even forgot to mention Nady.

 
 
 
 
 
Ivan says:

Girardi knows he’s gonna need tons of offense so put your best bats out there.

 
KW says:
 
Mike A. says:

Cone just broke down Joba’s injury. Basically said it was inflammation in the rotator cuff, and could be attributed to the heat the other night. “No structural damage” is the key term he used.

Phew. Best case scenario?

Ivan says:

Pete A. on lohud was saying it was probably a slight tear.

Jamal G. says:

Don’t listen to anything that man says unless it is a report. Anytime, and I mean anytime you see him giving his opinion, do not listen to it. Fuck the grain of salt, just completely disregard it.

 
Mike A. says:

Even if it is, slight tear > complete tear. It’s good news.

Mike A. says:

Well, not good news, more like, the best bad news possible.

 
 
 
Jamal G. says:

Peter Abraham really pissed me the fuck off. He called the inflammation a “nice way” of saying it is a tear. That is highly incorrect. Strains are a “nice way” of saying it is a tear, inflammation is swelling of a tendon. That’s what the fuck tendinitis means, inflammation of a tendon.

Even the dudes on SoSH know the fucking difference.

Joe says:

I take it Pete’s not on your christmas card list?

Jamal G. says:

I don’t like people who speculate irresponsibly when they have a public forum on which to do so. Any of us can say some stupid crap, but it doesn’t matter because we are just readers. If you have a God Damn blog dedicated to reporting on the New York Yankees as a fucking beat writer, you have a responsibility to get your shit straight before you just post thoughts from your head without any information backing it.

Mike A. says:

I don’t like people who speculate irresponsibly when they have a public forum on which to do so.

We do that all the time at RAB! Difference is that we aren’t credentialed, or being paid for it.

Jamal G. says:

Hey, when you three are all living in your mother’s basements, I can deal with a little sensationalism now and again. :P

 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Well, he is a Sox fan.

 
 
 
Chris says:

Second best case, I think. The best case would have been a grade 1 strain of the deltoid muscle. A strain may have caused him to miss slightly more time this year, but the potential long term downside from rushing him back would be much much less if it was a deltoid strain.

Either way this is generally good news.

Joe says:

Is this a chronic injury or a one-time, something happended to cuase this injury type things, such as the weather or falling?

 
 
 
Steve H says:

And oh yeah, screw the Indians and their bullpen. Even Borowski would have saved that one.

Mike A. says:

That was brutal. Cleveland’s pen was terrible in 2006, awesome in 2007, and again terrible in 2008. The effed up thing is that it’s largely the same group of guys exceptions being Borowski and Kobayashi.

Chris says:

that trend doesn’t bode too well for the Yankees pen next year….

 
 
 
E-ROC says:
 
Steve H says:

Yankees are 1-10 vs. rookie pitchers this year. Uggh. This guy has Ponson written allover him. Even Ponson was slimmer as a rookie. They could be a wrestling team. “Weighing in at a combined 550 lbs”

Ivan says:

That’s just great.

 
 
E-ROC says:

Rocky Balboa was a great movie!

 
Mike A. says:

You know a pitcher sucks when one of his Keys to the Game is “he’s from Aruba.”

 
Steve H says:

On the Rangers broadcast they are talking about how good he is. What am I missing.

Joe says:

Now they are looking at the signs fans have made, it’s like a minor league game

Steve H says:

Just realized it’s on ESPN too, with no Joe Morgan. And HD.

 
 
 
 
E-ROC says:

I do like how Ponson is using his breaking pitches. It sure helps him miss some bats.

 
E-ROC says:

That WHIP is shrinking fast.

 
Jamal G. says:

Heh, Chris Russo said Alex Rodriguez is having a “bad year” on more than one occasion today. I won’t bother posting his numbers.

Steve H says:

If only they were all having such “bad years”

 
Joey H says:

russo is a fuckin idiot jamal. did u see him with the tampa bay hat on. just cause his giants suck he doesnt care about baseball. francessa on the other hand is a genius

 
 
E-ROC says:

I totally forgot that A-Rod played for the Rangers. It seems like his days in that uniform was a mirage.

 
giselle says:

through a series of random events i find myself at a friends house who happens to be an acquaintance of justin masterson, and tonight, masterson has asked (as a favor) if he could leave his car parked in my friend’s driveway.

so what should i write (or draw) on the driver’s side door? i have a sharpie and limited art skills, and i’m open to your ideas…

Chris says:

Keep it simple - a nice Yankees logo.

Steve H says:

And sign it Manny being Manny

giselle says:
 
 
 
 
Old Ranger says:

Watch Jeters hands as he swings, they are way ahead of the bat. One can’t get away with that if you don’t have a lot of power. He is hitting in front of the his belt, therefore…not enough power to get the ball out to the field hard and on a line. He’s hitting short and on the ground…therefore, DPs and line outs to the infield. 27/08?

Old Ranger says:

I ment, if his hand is bad. he can’t get the power he needs. 27/08??

 
 
E-ROC says:

Damn rookie pitchers!

 
Mike A. says:

Tommy Hunter is one ballsy mofo.

 
Joe says:

Uh-oh, implosion time

 
Ivan says:

This have not been a good trip for the yanks in Texas so far.

 
Mike A. says:

Shades of Chuck Knoblauch…

Jamal G. says:

He got the force at second though.

 
 
Jamal G. says:

Looked like it hit the dirt on that first angle.

 
Steve H says:

in slightly decent news, Manny has another HR

 
Realist says:
Realist says:

Whew, thank goodness they got together to get it right! Say what you want but the Umps did the right thing!

 
 
Jamal G. says:

Hooray for non-replays!

 
Chris says:

I love hearing Cone say you shouldn’t argue with an ump while the play is still live… he’s one that should know.

Mike A. says:

Heh, yes he should.

 
 
Steve H says:

Hope they take advantage of this. Maybe we can have Jeter pinch hit and get the DP

 
Mike Pop says:

cant beleive karstens outing

 
Jamal G. says:

Heh, this is like that Michael Vick play, where Vick’s knee literally was a centimeter above the ground.

Dave P. says:

that was a SICK touchdown for Vick.

Steve H says:

Yeah, he took it to the (dog)HOUSE

 
 
 
 
Mike Pop says:

ponson needs to get replaced by somebody anyboddy

 
Ivan says:

At least if hughes suck, you can live with it and justify it. When Ponson sucks, that who he is.

 
E-ROC says:

Abreu actually made an accurate throw to home.

 
ansky says:

great. Lets knock more people off the roster

 
Mike Pop says:

god i hope pudge is okay

 
Realist says:

Pudge blocked it like it is supposed to be….I hope he is OK!

 
Mike A. says:

Looks like he got spiked. Typical Red Sox bullshit from Murphy. Old habits die hard.

Mike A. says:

Didn’t get spiked, scratch that.

Chris says:

looked like a head to head hit…

 
 
 
Ivan says:
 
Mike A. says:

Pudge should have spiked that shit.

Joey H says:

i say they bean the cocksucker next time.

 
 
Joey H says:

if pudge is out we are totally fucked.

Joey H says:
Mike A. says:

Nah, I considered Pudge was a luxury.

Chris says:

Moeller cleared waivers, and is back at Scranton…

 
Joey H says:

yeah a luxury that costed us our (this season) valuable 8th inning guy. and dont give me some bullshit about him sucking on detroit. im positive that is a result of getting traded over there. he loves being in NY . especially with the fans finalllllly trusting him after years

 
 
 
 
Jack says:

Question: I’m looking into investing in MLB.tv. Is it worth the $20? If so, is the premium package worth the extra 10?

 
 
Realist says:

It just keeps getting worse……….

 
Joey H says:

I happen to have a really good feeling about IPK this time. i think his whole time off did him well. everyone elses thoughts?

 
Ivan says:

See Cano, when ya work counts you get good pitches to hit.

 
Mike Pop says:

we were playing better befor pudge came tho// who knew farnsy held it all together lol

 
Jamal G. says:

Anyone want to second my proposition to cut off Texas from this country?

Dave P. says:

I like your idea from yesterday. If we ever get invaded I hope they start in Texas.

 
 
Mike A. says:

You can bet on Betemit!

 
Mike Pop says:

i hope hughes and kennedy blossom next year like danks and floyd have this year for the white sox.. be amazing// and we got a run !!!!

 
Chris says:

I know I’m in the minority, but I think that blocking the plate as a catcher is one of the dumbest moves in baseball. How many more outs do you get by blocking the plate as opposed to making a swipe tag like they do at the other bases? Balance those few outs with the risk of losing a catcher, or at least shortening his career…

 
Jamal G. says:

Heh, “You are soooo not catching that one”.

 
Mike Pop says:

Does anyone think that we see Dellin next year in the bigs ??

 
 
Mike A. says:

Huh? If we see him in 2011, he’ll be ahead of schedule.

Mike Pop says:

na we will see him in 2010 u jus watch

let’s break this down:

2007: 25 innings in LoA Staten Island (elbow strain); lost season
2008: >100 innings at A Charleston
2009: ~150 innings between Charleston and HiA Tampa
2010: ~170 innings between HiA Tampa and AA Trenton
2011: ~190 innings between AA Trenton and AAA Scranton
2012: the show, bitches.

 
 
 
 
Steve H says:

If that was Varitek blocking the plate, Murphy would have hit the C on his chest and bounced back to 3rd. Then they would have erased the hits Ponson had given up, and Tek would be working on yet another no hitter.

Jamal G. says:

The “C” on Varitek’s jersey reminds me of the Canadian flag tattoo on that guy from “Knocked Up” (the skinny roommate that’s kind of gay), it’s a target for “something”.

 
 
Ivan says:

great another injury.

 
Mike Pop says:
Steve H says:

Let’s not give him too much credit for hitting into what would have been a tailor made 6-4-3 DP had the infield been at regular depth (and of course had someone been on first)

 
 
Ivan says:

If your Texas why are you playing the IF in, in third inning with Ponson pitching.

 
Mike Pop says:

september call up for dellin hes that good according to my friend here

Steve H says:

Hanging out with Brian Cashman?

Joe says:

Yup, and I just talked to Montero and he said after pudge got injured he hopped on a plane to meet the Yankees.

 
 
Mike A. says:

Zero chance of that happening.

ansky says:

yup. There is no way you’ll see any of the Charleston guys anytime soon. And that’s a good thing.

 
 
 
Realist says:

You ALWAYS block the plate….geez fundamental baseball! Swipe tags can be hook slided around, under or over…

Chris says:

and by blocking the plate you can get knocked out for the season, or simply drop the ball. I know every catcher is taught from early on ‘you must block the plate!’ but when you really think about it, it doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Realist says:

Yes it does…you keep the runner in front of you and can cause him to go out of the baseline. It’s not XBox its a baseball game…you can’t take one incident and make it protocol…well maybe you can?

 
 
 
Mike A. says:

That Derek. He’s a lucky mofo.

Chris says:

not lucky… he’s clutch

Joey H says:

no there was no runer at first. he wouldnt of even been in that situation if there was

 
 
 
Jamal G. says:

Epic failures by both A.L. All-Star Short Stops.

 
Ivan says:

That was a play you only see in the movie Major League.

Kevin says:

What happened? I didn’t see it.

 
 
E-ROC says:

Tommy Hunter is making the Yanks look silly at the plate.

 
Mike A. says:

Wow, JB Cox lost it tonight. 4 walks and a HBP in 1 IP, yet somehow no runs scored

Mike A. says:

11 of 31 pitches were strikes.

 
Ivan says:

how is that logically possible.

Ivan says:
 
 
 
mike pop says:

jamal who willl the yankees sign over the offseason/ and who is the best free agent to pursue

 
giselle says:

who is this kid always on sportscenter “live” commercials. the muffin kid? i don’t like him, but i have a feeling he’s not gonna go away.

 
Jamal G. says:

Yo, PeteAbe reported Jim Kaat’s wife, MaryAnn, passed away a couple weeks ago. Is it just me or is the first time anyone has heard about this?

Joe says:

I heard when it happened it really explains why he left the Yankees booth, I bet he’d give everything he has to have a little more time, it’s amazing how life works out, no amount of good times can make up for the bad

Jamal G. says:

it really explains why he left the Yankees booth

Wait, what do you mean by that? That he left so he can spend more time fulfilling his life or that the people in the booth were assholes?

Joe says:

He left to spend more time with her, I don’t recall him saying that she was dying, only that she was sick.

 
 
 
Mike A. says:

I heard about this, like 2 weeks ago. They mentioned it during the game day she passed.

Joey H says:

yea right around the time we lost the great Mr. Murcer

 
 
 
mike pop says:

you guys hear mattingly say manny is the best right handed hitter he has ever seen// lil shot to arod there in my opinion

Steve H says:

People say it all the time. Part of the reason is that A-Rod isn’t considered just a right-handed hitter, he’s a 5 tool all-around, all-time great. Even A-Rod says Manny’s the best RH hitter. Don’t think it’s a shot at all, and in a very minor way, is a backhanded compliment of Manny, because it’s the only thing he does well.

mike pop says:

guess u got a point

 
Joey H says:

plus with all due respect to arods greatness, he couldnt cold manny’s jock when it comes to the clutch. i would pitch around manny to get to arod HELL i would IBB him to get to arod in the bottom of the ninth 1 run lead

Steve H says:

While I won’t completely argue that point, Manny had 0 walkoff homeruns in his 7.5 regular seasons with the Sox. 1 in the playoffs, and I’m pretty sure he only had 2 in his time in Cleveland. A-Rod did that much last year.

Joey H says:

theres alot more to being clutch than walkoff homeruns steve.

Steve H says:

Agree, but you mentioned 9th inning at-bats, and walking A-Rod to get to Manny with a 1 run lead. Well with 1 on, A-Rod is more likely to end that game with a HR than Manny is.

Joey H says:

i understand what you are trying to say, the the point at hand is manny in my eyes is still much more tougher to face in a clutch spot than arod is. i would trade all of a-rods walkoff home runs for him to get a bloop single in a big spot in the 9th with runners on. not a hr but just a dribbler down the line or a bloop single, Shit even a sac fly

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Steve H says:

Or even a grounder that isn’t a DP to end the game. I know what you mean, and living in Boston I have seen way too much of Manny’s clutchness. I just think A-Rod’s past is overlooked sometimes during the present, ie last night.

 
Joey H says:

oh wow i had no dea you lived in boston. i was wondering how u knew so much about his tenure in beantown lol. i feel for ya’ bro. and “his past” is exactly that, his past. and as i type this he just hit into the DP.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
mike pop says:

hehehe wright made an error

 
Joey H says:

ponson generates alot of movement on his pitches. think it has anything to do with his frame? and they said he was a control pitcher. HA i had no idea

 
Jamal G. says:

Eat it you fucking hicks.

Joey H says:

gee you just have it for these incest engaging motherfuckers dont you lol

 
 
Steve H says:

Giambi needs to work the stache/no-stache thing sooner. It seems to work, but he can’t let himself slump so long.

 
Ivan says:
 
Charles says:

Wow,Cano has been really showing some patience huh?

 
Jamal G. says:

Buck Showalter and…

 
Mike A. says:
Joey H says:

manager to manage both yankees and rangers. i knew buck. i didnt realize billy

 
 
 
Ivan says:

Obviously buck Showalter is one of them.

 
mike pop says:

Even tho Steve H in my opinion its kind of a dumb comment to make. manny is what 3 or 4 yrs older than Arod and Arod has more hrs and rbi not sure bout batting avg but Arod is most likely the better hitter than manny is

Steve H says:

Oh I agree. I just think the label “right handed hitter” doesn’t naturally get applied to A-Rod as quickly as it does Manny, it’s usually “great baseball player”

mike pop says:

i am glad we had this discussion

 
 
claybeez says:

I’ve heard it said that A-Rod can hit it out even without squaring up on the ball. But, I thought I also heard Manny can hit a pitcher’s best pitch, while A-Rod tends to thrive more on mistakes.

Joey H says:

ill believe it when i can see it

 
 
 
Charles says:

Wait what happened to Pudge again? I missed it.

Mike A. says:

Collision at the plate. Looked like a knee-on-knee job.

 
 
BigBlueAL says:

Buck and Billy Martin

 
Joe says:

Wow, looks like Aceves is coming back to earth.

 
mike pop says:
 
Jamal G. says:

Wow, Ted Williams, Don Zimmer, and Bobby Valentine all managed the Texas Rangers at one point.

BTW, what is Johnny Oates famous for, his name sounds too familiar for someone of his playing record.

Joe says:

He coached Baltimore for a bit and Texas

 
A.D. says:

He was the manager of Texas all the times we played them in the playoffs in the 90s

Mike A. says:

I still have nightmares of Juan Gonzalez.

 
 
 
Ivan says:

I had feeling it was billy martin.

 
Jamal G. says:

These umpires really get a hard-on talking crap to players as they walk away, huh?

 
mike pop says:

we really need boston and tampa to slump jus a lil bit

 
Ivan says:

Hey who would you guys take Matt Weiters or Justin Upton?

Mike A. says:
Steve H says:

Upton. A year younger, already modest success in the majors and way more upside potential (channeling my inner Jay Bilas)

 
 
Jamal G. says:

Normally I would take Wieters because of the value he brings due to the bat he has at his position, but Justin Upton is one of those talents that no words can describe.

Ivan says:

Man I don’t know. Switch hitting catcher who brings good D, great arm and very good power and very good plate disipline don’t come often either.

Mike A. says:

Upton’s a .320-40-140 guy once he gets going. It’s like picking between A-Rod and Mauer.

Ivan says:

Weiters has more power than Mauer and he switch hits.

Upton has the potential to be a monster no question but I don’t if he’s as good of a prospect as A-Rod was a prospect.

 
 
Steve H says:

Upton gets compared to A-Rod and Griffey at the same age. Not a catcher alive that has potential to top that.

Jamal G. says:

Good thing for us Jesus isn’t exactly “alive”. ;)

 
 
 
 
 
Jamal G. says:

Ken Singleton, don’t remind us. BTW, who will regret not signing their draft pick more, the Yankees (Chris Davis) or Red Sox (Pedro Alvarez)? Obviously, this was not a big error on either side as I think both were almost assured to head to school.

Mike A. says:

Alvarez. Can’t go wrong either way.

Jamal G. says:

Is he destined for a corner outfield spot, or First Base?

 
 
Mike A. says:

I’m fairly certain the Mariners wish they signed Rich Harden back in the day.

Jamal G. says:

Was it the Dodgers who drafted David Price out of High School?

BTW, what kind of ceiling does Preston Mattingly have?

Mike A. says:

Yeah, Dodgers drafted Price our of high school, ditto Melancon.

Mattingly kinda sucks. Def didn’t get the baseball talent gene from dad.

 
 
Chris says:

Didn’t they also pass on Lincecum in the draft?

 
 
 
Charles says:

injured knee for Pudge?that can’t be good right?

 
mike pop says:

i still think we need a couple more runs here

 
A.D. says:

like moving damon back to cf, with melks blackhole

Joey H says:

i dont see why not. i havent seen melky make any eyepopping assists lately. damon has got a pretty good glove if i dont say so myself.

 
 
Charles says:

I hope Betemit is a late bloomer kinda like David Ortiz. He’s got really huge power.

 
mike pop says:

i wish we had chris davis now though

 
A.D. says:

the Yanks really should have tried to trade Kontos sooner, and then switch him for someone else.

7ip 0R 4H 5K

Charles says:

Heh, George ” The Greek God of Pitching” Kontos on fire huh?

 
 
Charles says:

Uh oh, perfect time for a Jeter specialty.

 
mike pop says:

does anyone want manny to dh for the yankees next year ??

Realist says:

Nope, let Manny be Manny somewhere else….

Joey H says:

mars sonds like a good option to me. once he gets his money his old tricks will return

 
 
A.D. says:

i could just go for a healthy matsui, we are paying him anyways

 
Jamal G. says:

Yes, but not worth the draft compensation. Also, anything more than two guaranteed years is idiocy beyond epic proportions.

mike pop says:

ya but jamal we get those picks back by abreu leaving right ??

A.D. says:

we get the abreu picks anyways, so its still a loss of pick

 
Jamal G. says:

Screw that, you horde that shit like money, you never have enough and there are no substitutes.

 
Steve S says:

And I-Rod.
And Marte.
And Giambi.
And Mussina (if he leaves)
And Pettittte (ditto)

 
 
Steve S says:

Also, I believe the Dodgers agreed to decline arbitration to Manny when the trade as being made so they get no compensation. I assume they are going to pick up CC so they are going to lose their regular first rounder anyway.

mike pop says:

ooooo soo we get him without losing picks

 
Mike A. says:

No no no, Manny agreed to decline arbitration so the Dodgers will get the picks.

 
 
 
 
Realist says:

Jetes and Damon getting it done! Nice!

 
Jamal G. says:

Oh, NOW you want to hit the ball in the air! Fuck-nut.

Steve H says:

They need to have whoever is at 1st steal if Jeter is up, even if it’s Molina!

 
 
mike pop says:

jeter 2 times tonight hes came through

 
Charles says:

This is insane. That wasn’t what Jeter was supposed to do right?

 
Mike A. says:

I see my Rocky motivational speech is working.

Steve H says:

“If I can change……and you can change…….everybody can change!!!”

I think Jeter got that Rocky motivation tonight, he’s changed!

Realist says:

He also said in that movie, “If you stay in one place too long , you become that place.” For whatever thats worth?

 
Joey H says:

ROCKY IS THEEE SHITTT. I have the whole box set.

Steve H says:

Did you take Rocky V out of your set and burn it?

Joey H says:

hey i really didnt dislike rocky 5. it wasa decent idea to show post rich life for rocky. it could have been done better tho.

 
 
 
 
 
Old Ranger says:

Good hitting by Jeter. Nice to see him get a RBI, when we really need it. 27/08?

 
mike pop says:

cmon arod plz man big hit

 
E-ROC says:

Meachem didn’t send the runner, lol.

 
Joey H says:

is it me or has bobby been taking some horrible looking hacks lately? un-abreulike hacks

 
Charles says:
Joey H says:
 
 
mike pop says:
 
A.D. says:

Key fact from today on Ken Rosenthal’s column:

Type B free agents DO NOT have to be offered arbitration for a team to recieve comp, that means you Jason Giambi

Joe says:

What if you don’t offer Type-A free agents arbitration? Do you still get a supplemental pick?

A.D. says:

you have to offer arb to type A’s, didn’t go into that scenario, but I think you have to offer

 
 
 
Charles says:

God, these Rangers pitchers must think high ERA’s are better.

A.D. says:

everything is big in texas

 
 
Ivan says:

That’s pretty lame A-Rod.

Joey H says:

i know, im shocked, he choked, and it isnt even past the 8th inning yet!

 
 
mike pop says:
 
E-ROC says:
 
Charles says:
 
mike pop says:

Is Texiera worth the picks Jamal ???

Jamal G. says:

Yes, but not worth the contract he’s looking for.

 
Charles says:

I think it’s better we go after CC than Tex. Though both are gonna be very expensive.

 
 
Jamal G. says:

What has been the reason(s) (on the mound) Sidney Ponson has never lived up to his ability? Is it the lack of command or control (or both), or lack of a good breaking pitch?

Steve H says:
Steve H says:

Sorry, missed the on the mound. Though I think alcohol has led to his on the mound problems as well. Conditioning, focus, preparation, etc. Needs to lay off the sauce. He’s the John Daly of MLB.

 
 
 
Joe says:

I’m pretty sure he’s a functioning alcaholic, that’s going to effect him on the mound

 
Ivan says:

he never really had that mentality of wanting to be great or at least good.

 
 
Joe says:

Ponson recovering well

 
Ivan says:

The one thing about Ponson I will say this, he does have a good arm unfortuantely he never reach that potential.

 
mike pop says:

i personally beleive we have to get Texiera more than anybody else… i really hope we get his ass.. that would be a greater 3 4 than bobby arod // tex arod is where its at

A.D. says:

I actually think they may be better served to trade for a young of/1b or else try and sign Juan Rivera, and play X at first, something like that, else a platoon.

Tex will be awesome for a few years then he may deteriorate and block young players, Arod/Tex would be a sweet 3/4

 
 
mike pop says:

yankees will give tex 7 or more years.. they gave giambi 7

 
Jamal G. says:

A.D., did they just change that rule? I always thought arb had to be offered to Type-A or Type-B free agents for their last team to be compensated in the draft if they leave via free agency.

 
Peedlum says:

Dunno if anyone has already posted this, but ESPN is reporting the following: “a source told ESPN The Magazine’s Buster Olney that Andrews told the Yankees he doesn’t believe Chamberlain’s injury is a long-term problem.”

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3522585

best damned thing i’ve heard all day.

hopefully its just 3 or 4 starts. would be nice to have joba during that tough stretch at the end of the schedule.

Steve H says:

Saw that on the bottom line. phew

 
 
 
mike pop says:

No way charles …. texiera is the safer bet for all that money and all those years… who would u rather give a 8 year deal to a 1st baseman or a heavy overweight starting pitcher// all due respect to CC he is filthy im just saying he is a real big guy plus he will end up in the nl i think .. with the dodgers i agree with what someone said be4

Steve H says:

Plus our system is more stocked with young arms than bats. And while we have needed an ace for a few years, I have no qualms about Joba being a #1 starter on a WS caliber team (in the future)

Charles says:

OK,agreed. I just don’t think both of them are gonna be worth the huge contract they’re going to sign over the winter. How bout Tex+Sheets?

 
mike pop says:

agreed.. joba is that 1 and hughes might even be able to be a 1 himself plus we cannot forget about wang who is good for 15 plus wins… we do not have a young serious 1b in the minors right now who is close to taking over… i am all for signing texiera hed be a great fit to our team

 
 
 
mike pop says:

nady is gosh darn sexy

 
Realist says:

Nady has really shown me alot!

Joey H says:

i, for whatever reason didnt think nady was legitimate. was more of a fluke player. but he has totally shut me up. i hope a-rod can do the same!

Realist says:

Gotta say I agree…I won’t comment on ARod as there is a daily diatribe on this site pointed at myself and others whose opinions differs from the management ;-)

 
Steve H says:

Maybe just a late bloomer. He was a big time prospect but never truly panned out, maybe we’re seeing now what everyone expected years ago.

Joey H says:

yeah it does go underthe radar that he is 29 years old. thats prime majorleague age

 
 
 
 
Joey H says:

oh, this a-rod yankeeography shit is really good to piss me off, who is next? joh n sterling doing his own yankeeography? or maybe a michel kay yankeeography! nah i say go with suzyn waldman!

claybeez says:
Joey H says:

dont you think the highlight of her career was “oh.. o my goodness gracious… ROGER CLEMENS IS A NEW YORK YANKEE!” .. LIKE IT NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED BEFORE.

 
 
Jamal G. says:

He deserves it IMO. He carried the Yankees past the Twins in the 2004 ALDS, he won two MVP awards in his first four years a Bronx Bomber, he carried the Yankees to the post-season in 2007, and he had one of the greatest offensive seasons not only in Yankee history, but in the history of professional baseball in 2007.

If there was ever a person who deserves his “Yankeeography” in such a short time, it’s Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez.

Joey H says:

jamal, i can give a rats ass about what you listed. his career isnt anywhere near over. im POSITIVE we havent seen the best of A-rod yet. besides, we all know, the next postseason, arod is gonna crush opposing pitching. i just FEEL it

 
 
A.D. says:

CC or Tex yankeeorgrapy, maybe a bit premature, but they could look into the futer… that would be emmy award winning

 
 
Charles says:

X really looks good in pinstripes huh?

 
Jamal G. says:

How can a man survive in Texas with that hair and that girth?

 
A.D. says:

type B rule change was part of the newest collective barganing agreement

probably because type bs dont hurt the signing team, and some type bs are older players no longer worth their contract

 
D.B. says:

wow look up harold garce…the guys got 62 walks in 29 IP

Jamal G. says:

Yeah, he was an old International Free Agent that had an electric arm but absolutely no coaching. I’m serious, he is like 23-years-old, can hit 99-MPH, but was never coached a day in his life.

 
Mike A. says:

Sheesh. Check out what Mr. Turnbow is up to, 51 BB in 24.1 IP.

 
 
Ivan says:

Man Carlos Beltran has had a pretty sorry season for a guy being paid 117 Million dollars.

 
Joe says:

Brett Marshall officially signed, $850,000

A.D. says:
 
A.D. says:
Joe says:

Source? I am Brett Marshall. It’s somewhere on mlb.com, give me a minute I will find it.

Joe says:
Jamal G. says:

“I wasn’t for sure how much I was going to get,” Marshall said. “Rob [Martin, adviser] called me one night and he told me the number, and I kind of broke down in tears. It’s just been a dream. It was unbelievable.”

I love reading shit like that.

 
 
A.D. says:

would have been halarious if you were

 
 
 
 
A.D. says:

at least there were 3 less guys on compared to monday

 
mike pop says:

yankees cant leave so many on base

 
Ivan says:

That’s a bitch ass HR. that would not be a HR in alot of parks.

 
Dave P. says:

any word on pudge yet?

Jamal G. says:

Day-to-day with a bruised knee.

Dave P. says:
 
 
 
mike pop says:
 
Jamal G. says:

X Gon’ Give It To Ya!

 
Realist says:

Fucking Nady! Woo hoo!

 
Steve H says:

6 innings/3 runs from Ponson. Has the lead. All up to the bullpen now, they better step it up.

 
A.D. says:

all X does is make me smile

 
Ivan says:

If I told ya guys that Ponson would pitch better than Joba and Pettitte in this series you would curse me out of here.

 
Jamal G. says:

Gee Josh, did you used to run like that from your dealers?