Close game gets out of hand late, Yanks drop home opener

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While today’s game got real ugly later on, it wasn’t exactly pretty in the early going. The Yanks put eight men on base in the first four innings without scoring a run, and left a total of 15 men on base during their too-long affair. It wasn’t the home opener that most Yanks fans had envisioned. Good thing they’ll play 152 more of these things, and two of their major weaknesses in the game — the bullpen and the ability to drive in men on base — have been fairly good for most of the season.

Sabathia wasn’t exactly economical, a la Burnett and Pettitte from the previous two games, as he used 122 pitches to get 17 outs. The top of the 5th particularly hurt, as he used 30 pitches to retire three Indians, though he didn’t allow a run. It all added up, though — the five hits, the five walks, the four strikeouts — and CC had to exit early. It wasn’t terrible in terms of results, but as we’d learn later the Yanks could have used another inning and a third from their ace.

A quick note on CC’s walks. That number might seem high right now. As Andrew pointed out during the game, CC walked 59 batters last year and has 10 already this year. That, however, is misleading. CC racked up nine walks over his first three starts last year, in which he pitched just 14 innings. His 10 walks come after 17.2 innings this year. Furthermore, CC allowed 14 walks through his first four starts last year, spanning 18 innings. From that point on, he tossed 235 innings with a 1.74 ERA, walking just 45. CC’s going to be just fine.

Damaso Marte and Jose Veras generated plenty of complaints, and with good reason. But to make sweeping statements about them based on one appearance is a bit much. We know what Veras is at this point: a guy with an electric fastball and a devastating curveball. There are going to be days when he can’t hit the strike zone with the fastball, rendering the curveball moot. Does that mean he sucks? No. He has his flaws, just as pretty much every reliever in the bigs has flaws. That’s why they’re relievers and not starters. Marte had a tough outing, too, reminiscent of his stinker in Texas last August. Yet to make proclamations about how he stinks is to ignore years of quality work — not to mention the quality work he’s done for the Yanks outside of a few appearances which stand out in fans’ minds.

What do you get when you cross an inefficient starting pitcher with a lack of hitting with runners on base, and then cross that with a bullpen having a bad day? A loss for sure, though one would hope not as bad as today’s. Those are the breaks in baseball, though. Some days you just can’t knock the guy in from second. Some days you call on the wrong reliever. We’ve seen this — the latter, at least — a few too many times in a young season, which is the leading cause of fan overreaction. Games in April count just as much as games in September; each game is 1/162 of the season. The difference, of course, is that the team has time to address their issues and correct them in April. I have all the confidence in the world that the Yankees will do just that.

Another day game tomorrow, again at 1:00. Joba Chamberlain goes up against Cardinals-castoff Anthony Reyes.

Random note we intentionally left until the end of the recap: Today marked the first time the Yanks have lost a home opener since 1997 when Oakland prevailed 3-1 in 12 innings. The bullpen blew that game too, except it was Mariano Rivera who gave up the tying run on a Mark McGwire homer. The Yanks somehow managed to recover (they were 4-5 with the loss) and made the playoffs. Oh, and guess who picked up the win in that game. Too late: Aaron Small.

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  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

    Aaron Small! That Michael Kay failed to mention on TV today. Good fact.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Mo blew the home opener and the ALDS, he obviously was just a one-year wonder, the fucking bum.

  • rsam

    i told cashman to go get manny butnoooooooooooooooooooooooooo 15 men left on base.we should just try to get rid of marte just a bum.bring up igawa for long relief and tomko marte is just useless.

    • Joey H

      ….. o_O

      • Joey H

        BAH- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      we should just try to get rid of marte just a bum.bring up igawa for long relief and tomko marte is just useless.

      That’s what we like here at RAB – well articulated analysis backed up by facts (along with impeccable grammar).

      As the saying goes, “Take that shit to LoHud.”

  • Joey H

    Two smarts moves that are better made late than never and now than never, Jose Veras down for Brett Tomko and Some how loose Cody Ransom for Angel Berroa.

    • Brooklyn Ed

      Veras is out of options. I’m sure Veras will most likely be gone when Melancon comes up.

      • Joey H

        Well then what the hell are we waiting for. I don’t care what they get rid of him for. If he isn’t there then Girardi won’t be tempted to bring him in. The guy has wore out his welcome and is showing no signs of return.

        • Lanny

          You should be able to trade Veras for something. Not having options is not the reason he should be pitching here.

  • Bob Michaels

    Cody Ransom looks overmatched, too bad he waited a long time for an opportunity. Pro Ball can be cruel, but if you can`t produce your out.Whose next before A-Rod returns?

    • Brooklyn Ed

      apparently the league found some holes in his swing. Long needs to work with Ransom to make him better. but hey, that’s just my thinking.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

        You can’t really work with a 33 year old with no track record. He is what he is, and in two or three weeks, when A-Rod returns, he’ll be just a memory.

        • Brooklyn Ed

          Agreed. I just found out that we have another career minor leaguer in our system. Carlos Menodza, 30 years old just got promoted to AAA.

          • Pel

            He’ll be starting for us soon enough.

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        The funny thing about coaching is that you actually need your students to have some morsel of ability.

  • Drew

    Does anyone here work for MetLife or Northwestern Mutual?
    Sorry to stray from the post, Mike, Ben and Joe. I’m not sure when the Open thread will be up and I have interviews lined up with both companies, wanted some insight on anyone’s experience with them.

    • Joey H

      I am surprised either is hiring at this point. Metlife is pretty much the cream of the crop in the bizz.

  • josh

    any news on ajax today. hows the elbow?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      We’ll have that in DotF later.

  • http://www.youtube.com/kevyyankees Kevin G.

    If/When Melancon gets called up, which reliever gets the shaft? Will it even be a reliever that gets called down?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      Right now, the Yanks are carrying an 8-man bullpen for some reason. Whatever the next move is, a reliever is sure to get axed.

      • steve (different one)

        the reason is that they haven’t decided what to do with Nady yet.

    • Brooklyn Ed

      either Veras or Ramirez.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Edwar? His ERA is a run lower than Bruney’s. He isn’t pretty, but he usually gets the job done eventually.

        http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....ByStat=ERA

        The guys who should be in the cross hairs are Coke and Veras.

        • Drew

          I doubt Veras will be sent down, as much as I’d like it. He’s a more likely trade candidate.

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

            Isn’t Veras out of options as well?

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

              Yeah, I think you’re right.

              Coke must have plenty, he has barely any MLB experience.

              • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                I know this only ’cause I had to send him down in MLB ’09, haha.

              • Ed

                Coke was only added to the 40 man when he was called up at the end of last season, so he should have 3 options.

        • anonymous

          Edwar gets no respect.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      Well, one’s going to get sent down soon, presumably, because there are now 13 pitchers on the staff. Will it be Robertson? Not if he looks like he did today.

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        My bet is on Albaladejo.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

          Then we REALLY dont have a long man. He’s the closest thing we got.

        • Joey H

          Why? I think hes great. He took one for the team the other day, pitching out of his element he wasn’t so bad. Sure he gave up that grand slam but look at it this way, That was a good thing. He eliminated the pressure situation.

    • El Generalissimo

      Edwar has options… so I vote for him.

      My guess is a reliever or two will be traded at the deadline, even though I hope melancon will be up longer before then.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/prospect-profile-ryan-zink-6349/ Accent Shallow

        Why send down an effective reliever? I wouldn’t mind seeing Veras gone, but since he doesn’t have any options left, a dump trade doesn’t seem like the most valuable use for him.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    Add Texas to the teams looking to dump salary

    http://www.star-telegram.com/1.....17335.html

    It looks so bad for Hicks he might be forced to sell the team. Expect Bud Selig to be all over this pretty soon, like he was in San Diego last off season and with the Expos a few years back.

    • Brooklyn Ed

      those 2 dudes Ian Kinsler and Josh Hamiltion would be nice for the Yanks.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Those guys are going nowhere. It doesn’t even help Hicks all that much. Here’s their payroll.

        http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.c.....ngers.html

        Michael Young, Vincente Padilla, Hank Blaylock and Kevin Millwood. You could probably have any of them for a song, talent-wise.

        • Brooklyn Ed

          to be honest, I actually wouldn’t mind having Blalock playing 3B right about now. He’s being productive.

          • andrew

            Yea, I think he’d be great as a 1b/3b/dh guy, but he’s probably not worth what it would take to give up for him considering he’d only start 2 weeks.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Dropping salary =/= trading their two best young and cost controlled players.

        They’re looking to move Millwood, Padilla, Young, etc.

        • http://www.youtube.com/kevyyankees Kevin G.

          What about a Ruth style deal…

    • Drew

      ehhem…Cough Cough.. J-Ham. Cough. ;)

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Keep dreaming. . .

        • Drew

          A man can dream…

    • Drew

      What about Seattle, would you guys do anything for Ichiro? He’s owed a lot of money which is a big problem.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        I wouldn’t go near Ichiro. No need for a glorified singles hitter, especially one past his sell by date.

        • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

          No need for a glorified singles hitter,

          THANK you. No one listens to me when I say this.

          • http://heavysoundsandtheabstracttruth.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/alg_burnett-sabathia-3.jpg Mike Pop

            What aboot Austin Kearns or Jason Repko?

            • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

              Unless Kearns could do what he did in ’07 and before, no.

              • RollingWave

                Kearns is worth a look at least. espically if it doesn’t cost much.

        • Drew

          Yea true, but he is great at stealing bases as well. A singles hitter would fit in well with Alex Jorge Tex and even Damon.

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

            Ichiro’s problem is that he basically either gets a hit or makes an out. He’s only got a 36 point differential between his OBP and BA, which really isn’t good. His SB% for his career is 81%, which is great, but his lack of patience doesn’t really fit w/the Yankees. If he was younger and not owed a ton of money–or had just one year left on his deal–then I’d think about it. But given the current situation, no thanks!

            • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

              My mistake, I mis-typed. It’s a 46 point IsoD for Ichiro.

          • andrew

            And he’s a great defender as well.

            • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

              And he’ll also be 36 in October and is owed $51MM from now to the rest of his contract. The Yankees already have a singles hitting CF who can (potentially) steal a ton of bases and play good bases.

              And just to clarify, NO, I am not saying Brett Gardner is Ichiro. He’s clearly not on that level, but stylistically, they’re similar players. Ichiro’s old and owed entirely too much money, plus the M’s would probably want a whole lot for him.

              • Drew

                I’m not sure what they would want for him. He accounts for almost 20% of their payroll. They may be willing to part with him for a Japanese DH and a young guy or two. I don’t think it will ever happen but just throwing it out there..

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                  I would only do it if Ichiro had one year left on his deal.

                • El Generalissimo

                  I love Ichiro and would have loved him on this team for the last 6 or 8 years, but his last contract was just so overpaid.

                  You gotta think Ichiro is so sick of seattle though, and the losing. I feel bad for the guy. In his prime he was amazing though, he is the super rich mans brett gardner.

                • Drew

                  True, I think I agree but he is in great shape. Cash wants us to be young so it’s really moot.

              • Accent Shallow

                Except Ichiro makes significantly more contact than Gardner. Ichiro has a lifetime K/PA of around 10%, and Gardner is at 22.5% for both his time in the minors and his cups of coffee here.

                Not striking out is important if you’re gonna be a low-walk singles hitter, because you need the ball in play.

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                  Of course, of course. I’m just sayin’.

  • dkidd

    silver linings:

    jorge gunned down grady sizemore
    matsui walked 3 times
    coke
    girardi not burying coke
    robertson
    the stadium doesn’t play like citizen’s bank (yet)

    • http://eastrutherfordrant.com donttradecano

      cano is still hot

  • dkidd

    today’s game reminded me of the double-edged sword that was joe torre. he managed like a fan. he would have had bruney in there to start the 7th

    • Lanny

      There is a reason torre has managed a team to the playoffs 13 yrs in a row

      • RollingWave

        And that reason would be because he had a awsome roster for 13 years strait. there’s at least 5 complete no brainer 1st round HOFers on the team during this span, 3-5 borderline guys, and a fleet of guys who will at least appear on the ballot.

      • jon

        And he had all stars almost every single position

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    I keep thinking two things

    1) The loss was my fault for daring to watch it,

    and

    2) CC was only one out away from a quality start and what a gutty start it was…despite having no command he still only gave up one run. That’s the type of start that wins World Series.

    • Brooklyn Ed

      The loss was my fault for daring to watch it

      i just blame Veras for not having any control of his pitches. :D

    • Yankeegirl49

      Becca…not your fault, my husbands fault. He is not a fan and therefore not allowed to be in the room while I am watching. I was watching downstairs when he came in, he stopped to talk to me and looked at the tv, things started falling apart after that.

      Im not speaking to him right now…

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Is your husband named “Medusa”?

        • http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/prospect-profile-ryan-zink-6349/ Accent Shallow

          Medusa is a woman!

        • Yankeegirl49

          No, but my favorite Anthrax song is..LOL

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      I thought John Maine was gonna ascend to ace-status?

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        Lol @ people who think that.

  • rsam

    the yankees will be fine look at red sux record everyone at espn picked them to win the division .we have to get rid of veras and marte they are bums. was just reading daily news the yankee haters were having a field day mostly met fans.when they lost their homeopener we yankee fans could care less .mets and red sux fans should worry about their own team i guess a yankee loss makes their day ha ha ha ha ha.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      Easy, big fella.

    • Tom Zig

      1…2…3… deep breath…now exhale.

  • Brooklyn Ed

    Mo forbid if Teix lands on the DL, whose going to man 1B? Swish or Miranda? If Miranda could smash like he did in AAA, then that would be great.

    • steve (different one)

      unfortunately, he can’t.

      • Brooklyn Ed

        well someone has to man 1B if Swish is in RF.

        • steve (different one)

          i know, he would play 1B. just saying, he’s probably not going to “smash like he did in AAA”. unfortunately.

          let’s just pray that Teixeira is ok.

          • Brooklyn Ed

            oh ok, then I get your point. I’m guessing we probably going to see alot of Melky in RF and Swish in 1B while Teix is healing his wrist.

            • steve (different one)

              he got a cortisone shot and he said he’s playing tomorrow. crossing my fingers.

            • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

              Yeah, we’d see Melky in right. Sadly.

              • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

                Melky’s actually been pretty good so far

                http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....ByStat=OBP

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                  So far. He was red hot in April last year, too. I highly doubt this is sustainable.

                • Tom Zig

                  Yeah go look at his splits for the month of April last year. He actually fell off a cliff in May. His OPS dropped like 280 points.

                • Drew

                  He only had one bad year!! I love the Melkman!! Remember a time not too long ago when we were all thrilled with the energy and jubilation he provided to the clubhouse!! Do exclamation points make this sound any better to anyone?

          • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

            First off I think Teix is fine, second I think Swish would man 1B and Melky would go to Right

            • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

              That would just be so ugly. We’d be getting so little power production from the OF.

              • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

                Well, let’s just think positive and imagine what were gonna get when A-Rod comes back

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                  :)

      • RollingWave

        Juan Miranda scouting report: approach him by pitching with your left hand, it doesn’t matter if your a RHP, just try to lob something in there.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    KC Royals’ Alex Gordon has injured hip, headed to Vail Colorado for surgery.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

    Its amazing how some injuries, ones that you never heard of, spread around Baseball like wildfire for a year and then go back to being rare. Last year it was the Lisfranc, the year before it was the oblique.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      It really is an injury bug…

      • andrew

        Yea, i heard they are contagious

  • Tom Zig

    Are rationality and sensibility making a come back?

    • Accent Shallow

      Check the next game thread and then get back to me.

      (My guess: no)

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      You’re asking this of Yankee fans?

    • whozat

      see the comment directly below this one.

  • p2

    I completely disagree about Marte. He’s never had a big spot for the Yankees. He’s failed in every degree. And, I’ve seen a lot of Yankee baseball, and I have to be honest, Marte is one of the worst, if not THE worst bullpen pitchers I have seen on a Yankee staff. And THAT says a lot.

    And to pitch like that on opening day, THIS opening day, makes Marte’s place in Yankee history absolutely DEPLORABLE.

    I NEVER WANT TO SEE HIM IN PINSTRIPES AGAIN. That’s how I feel. There are just too many other pitchers in the minors that can take his place and get a chance to play in the majors.

    • http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/heredfe01.shtml?redir Accent Shallow

      Oh, come on, what about the Run Fairy? (Under my name)

      Also:

      http://www.replacementlevel.co.....maso_marte

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      Kyle Farnsworth?

      • Jack

        LaTroy Hawkins?

        • p2

          both better

        • andrew

          Felix Heredia?

          • Jack

            Billy Traber?

            • Lanny

              Marte has been terrible. Didn’t they see enough of him last yr to know he wasnt AL East big game material? Hes the typical small market player. He’ll dominate in Pittsburgh but somehow cant handle NY.

              • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                WITHOUT THE 4 RUN GAME, HE HAD AN ERA OF 3.70. HE HAD ONE AWFUL GAME AND ASIDE FROM THAT HE WAS MORE THAN FINE.

                • Drew

                  My surprise just came from the dominance he had in the NL compared to what he did in Pinstripes. I still think he’ll be fine this year.

              • steve (different one)

                yes, 4 years in the “small market” of Chicago racking up ERAs of

                2.83
                1.58
                3.42
                3.77

              • whozat

                Yeah, they’re real forgiving fans on the South Side of Chicago, where he spent four years of his career.

            • p2

              both mediocre, both better.

              • Jack

                You honestly believe Billy Traber is a better pitcher than Damaso Marte?

              • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                You are a fucking idiot.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

                  Goddammit. Now I have to warn you. Personal attacks and such.

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                  Alright, alright. Sorry, Joe.

                  /backs off

  • Brooklyn Ed

    Just heard something really interesting on Joey H’s show. He just mentioned that Austin Kerns and Jason Repko could be on their way to the Yanks. Could anyone confirm it?

    • http://heavysoundsandtheabstracttruth.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/alg_burnett-sabathia-3.jpg Mike Pop

      It’s on realgm(dot)com.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      I’m not really sure how I feel about this. I’d rather have Kearns but I’d be more than fine w/o either one.

      • http://heavysoundsandtheabstracttruth.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/alg_burnett-sabathia-3.jpg Mike Pop

        iYankees had something good about Kearns couple months back. I wouldn’t mind adding him to this team. I really wish there was a guy who could play 3b and the OF who was available, but I’m dreaming for that kind of player.

        • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

          Hinske? But I don’t think he’s available.

          • Brooklyn Ed

            the dude is with the Pirates now, pinch hitting.

            • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

              And…?

            • RollingWave

              anyone on the Pirates is avalible

    • Accent Shallow

      Looks like it’s just speculation from George King III on players that the Yankees might look at, rather than actual info.

      http://www.nypost.com/seven/04.....164661.htm

      • Brooklyn Ed

        oh well. you beat me to it. lol

    • Brooklyn Ed

      ok I found it.

      The Dodgers might be willing to trade Jason Repko, a 28-year-old with above average speed and a little pop. The Nationals are said to be entertaining offers for Austin Kearns.

      http://www.nypost.com/seven/04.....164661.htm

      • steve (different one)

        that’s like the Yankees are “entertaining offers” for Melky Cabrera.

        kearns is a 4th OFer owed $9M.

        i’d imagine he’d be close to free in terms of talent.

        • Lanny

          They’d throw a parade in DC if they got rid of Kearns. I’d venture they’d like Willingham more anyway.

  • cuponoodles

    Again, overreacting.

    Marte is a plus reliever when used effectively (which Girardi did not do well last year at all). He will be okay. As I said earlier, however, I am definitely not, nor have I been, on the Veras bandwagon (I don’t think he’s ‘terrible’, just not really confident when he’s on the mound)

    Also, don’t hate on Edwar. Does anyone forget that he pitched a NO HITTER in the month of July last year!

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      Edwar’s fine unless he’s pitching against the Angels

      • Lanny

        What have you seen from Marte in NY that says “plus reliever”?

        He went from 8th inning type to now lefty only. And he cant even get those out

        • Alex

          Marte has been good his whole career. He is by far the most proven.. well really the only reliever outside of Mo with a large track record. He’s been consistently good his whole career, very rare for a relief pitcher. That’s what we have seen From Marte. He just hit a rough patch.

        • Jack
  • p2

    Kyle was better than Marte!
    Marte is a disgrace to the uniform. Did you see the game?????!!!!!!!
    He wasn’t just hard-hit… he did EVERYTHING wrong. A nightmare scenario.
    I never want to see that guy in pinstripes again.

    If this were the 80s, Steinbrenner would ship him to Scranton to throw batting practice for the rest of his contract. And rightly so. What a disgrace.

    And Cashman prized this guy and traded for him. What a joke.

    • steve (different one)

      dude, you are embarassing yourself.

      • p2

        C’mon, “Dude”

        • steve (different one)

          “OK”

    • Alex

      Even Mariano has had bad outings.. just saying that’s all.

      • steve (different one)

        and in the 1980’s, which this guy seems to remember fondly as a good time for Yankee fans, Steinbrenner would have had him shine everyone shoes and clean the toilet on the team bus!!

        • Lanny

          i can count the mo bad outings on my one hand in 12 years

          • Alex

            not the point, the point is that everyone has bad days, and calling Marte worse than any other guy in the yank’s bullpen over the years based mostly on one very bad outing is beyond ridiculous.

          • andrew

            Well you must have pretty damn big hands, cuz Mo had 6 outings in ’07 alone where he gave up 2 runs or more. Obviously I know Mo is way better than Marte. But Marte has proven over a long career to be a good bullpen option and just because you choose to look at his 2 worst games doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be given a chance.

            • Bo

              Comparing Mo to Marte. Wow. You can defend Marte without resorting to hysterics.

    • jsbrendog

      go bakc to lohud

  • p2

    Marte has been making Kyle Farnsworth and the late Steve Howe look like Cy Young and Christy Mathewson by comparison.

    • Alex

      He has a career ERA less that 3.30.. give him time he’s off to a slow start…

    • whozat

      Troll or idiot? You decide!!!

      • steve (different one)

        why do we have to decide? why can’t it be both?

        • whozat

          Doctor: Mr. Griffin, you’re fine.
          Peter: Oh now you’re coming on to me?
          Lois: Peter, he’s not coming on to you, he’s telling you you’re healthy!
          Doctor: Can’t…Can’t it be both?

        • whozat
      • Drew

        I’d say the latter.

    • Accent Shallow

      Guy, relax. We got your point the first three times.

      Also, here’s Marte’s gamelogs from last year. Doesn’t look all that terrible.

      http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2008

      I’m not crazy about the contract either, but let’s not pretend he’s Jose Lima or something.

    • Joop

      dude, you’re embarasing yourself.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      You said what you wanted to say, now let it be. Knock it off.

  • gxpanos

    That p2. What a gritty commenter, using hustle and pine tar to argue against Marte. How can any of us argue with him? He’s so fired up, I’m inclined to agree with him!

    • Drew

      ietc

  • Drew

    Oh gosh, I’m counting on the Padres bullpen for a save. Hopefully they keep up what they’ve done early on this year.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      Heath Bell is sick.

      • Drew

        Damn, multiple signs with no one on?

    • Drew

      :) A mets loss always takes the sting off.

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        Meh. I’ve found over the years, I’ve gotten more and more indifferent to them.

        • Drew

          Not me, I find pleasure in every loss they have. Plus it helps my offensive against my Mets fan friends.

  • Lanny

    Citi Field looks empty here the past 2 nights. A ton of empty seats

    • RollingWave

      which is very appropriate considering that it’s naming rights was given to Citi group

  • Reggie C.

    When will Teixiera get back to 100%? Is it a matter of timing at the plate or is the wrist still an issue he’s trying to overcome? I really hope he’s not trying to hide the actual amount of soreness the wrist is causing.

  • Reggie C.

    The relief corps can get better if Cash pulls the trigger and brings up Melancon. Does this team need Coke if Melancon or Robertson are dominant? Maybe there’s a fear of taxing the prized relief prospects’ arms this early in the season as Wang is learning to pitch from scratch, while CC and Joba work out the kinks. Yet, repeated blowups from Coke and Veras should speed the prospects’s arrival. Its sort of a catch-22. We’re going to see Melancon and Robertson as a matter of emergency rather than in sunnier circumstances.

    • Tom Zig

      Probably has something to do with neither of them being fully ready to hack it at the show yet.

      We do not need the pitching version of Eric Duncan.

      • Bo

        I think they can hack it a little better than someone like Veras. Who is running out of chances.

  • Paulie

    I just got back from the Dominican Republic, I am pretty upset that I missed the game even though they lost. I think I am pretty caught up on what happened, yet, I still have one question, “Did Pavano get booed during the introductions?”

    • Pel

      Yes.

      • Bo

        He was wildly cheered! You serious???

  • Peedlum

    I just got home and am watching the pre-game intros on DVR. What the hell happened to Jim Kaat? He looks like he was horribly burned or he has vitiligo or something. Am I seeing things? I just rewound it and he looks terrible.

  • DR

    This is the second time in a few days that 3rd and 4th reliever lost the game. Could it be because of the number of reliever changes? Relievers have to warm themselves up and avoid getting tired before they even come in to pitch. When third and fourth reliever enter the game so early, could it be that they aren’t warmed up properly, because they think that there is no chance they would enter the game so quickly, so they have to pace the warm-up for the next inning? Reliever who is fourth in line probably doesn’t expect to get into the game before the 8th inning (unless starter is Wang), so he might be cold in 7th.

  • BigBlueAL

    Most of you guys here at RAB are just to damn rational….

  • jon

    I would like to see an analysis of the strike size from the 7th on

    it seems that there were tons of strikes that were called balls according to gameday

    • Bo

      Lets not look for excuses here. Veras and Marte blew it. It wasnt the umps strike zone.

      • jsbrendog

        i’ll agree with this assessment but I would also like to see the analysis just to see if the umps were making bad calls.

        regardless though a pitcher cant use something like that as an excuse and they stunk. yesterday. and today is a new day and yesterday is no more and means nothing.